I think the heat coming his way is because the majority of people expected a rangers win at the weekend.
and then he done something really dumb, he kept going long because we had a defensive crisis, problem is he went long to what appears to be an absolute dud in dessers.
i'm not changing my tune on celtic, i thought some players had a good game yesterday, o'riley, scales, holm when he came on, hart, johnston.
but i don't think we look good overall, and our goal wasn't a well worked move as much as a bit of luck matched with a striker with ridiculously sharp instincts.
one thing i will say, can we please get turnbull in the bin.
a sub, no more.
Obviously want him to stay but yes, rarely see such unanimity amongst bears. First big test for Bennet & Bisgrove. Couldn't believe Beale, after watching our loss and draw, didn't man mark Calmac in the 1H. Then he sacrifices his best goalscorer to do the job 2H. Cantwell out wide and we've won a watch too.
Whilst not wanting to derail your thread, a big concern for me is that the grim grind out of the result for us papers over the gaping cracks (oooer) we have on our side. Yes, we absolutely exposed your defence and created plenty chances but our slow play around the back under decent bear pressure was heart in mouth stuff. 1-0 is rarely enough in a derby and it was inviting an equaliser. The only thing I can think is Rodgers was scheiting it off anyone with any pace so decided to sit deep.
Like you lot, we know how this goes and it is not a happy ending.
your man cantwell is pathetic btw
Must admit to have been really surprised at how sh111te youse were.......as bad as we were youse were worse.........the standard of yesterday's game was mingin.......said as much on the live thread
souttar is a bit of a lump eh?
he'll do the heavy work.
It's obvious that Beale is useless. Just listen to anyone of his interviews. The guy's a dud.
However the job of a Rangers manager is to maintain your position as the second best team in the country and get an occasional trophy. He's probably capable of that so there's really no point in replacing him.
As for Cantwell...absolutely pathetic but, as I've said on here recently, the bears are kidding themselves on about Raskin. He has almost zero impact on games.
My opinion is not based on how much we expected to win yesterday, our how poor Celtics side were or should have been with untried centre halves
It’s all on how we setup, what our shape is, what our game plan is etc…..
He wants to use our full backs as our width, neither of whom are good enough to do that job up and down the park for 90mins
He said he wanted to do 3-5-2, seems one man was pivotal to that, we didn’t get him, he’s spat the dummy…other thing to be said is, if we got that man, was our entire season built on one man staying fit so we could play that 3-5-2
We got rid of Kent…Matondo is the upgrade, guy couldn’t get a game last term and is worse than Sakala who we also let go
£6m spent on Danilo…doesn’t start
Midfield totally bypassed all game, almost all game, hopeless
Our passing is bloody woeful
Defensive headers…we don’t look to find a man, we just get a heid on it and don’t give a monkeys where it goes
It’s all $hite and is sod all to do with our opponents, it’s all us
the lad danilo looks to be an expensive dud at this point, littel about him.
i do think there is more to dessers with the right use of him, bad miss yesterday but ball just gets stuck under him, happens.
sorry not dessers, lammers.
stupid names.
Butters, Tavers, Golders, Souttars, Borners, Canters, Raskers, Lammers, Dessers, Simers, Lunders
comment by Magnum (2 in a row easy) (U22391)
posted 9 minutes ago
It's obvious that Beale is useless. Just listen to anyone of his interviews. The guy's a dud.
However the job of a Rangers manager is to maintain your position as the second best team in the country and get an occasional trophy. He's probably capable of that so there's really no point in replacing him.
As for Cantwell...absolutely pathetic but, as I've said on here recently, the bears are kidding themselves on about Raskin. He has almost zero impact on games.
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BR can and does spout pash at times, but Beale’s interviews (every one of them) are a whole new level of nothingness. Just meaningless drivel from start to finish, every time. He’s absolutely deluded if he genuinely thought they had the better chances and deserved to win. As for it not being a foul for their “goal”, as Dessers had “planted his foot first” … WTF?! Is he making up new laws of the game now? Lagerbloke got away with dwelling on the ball too long (one of his many errors in the day), but technically it was 100% a foul all day long … unless you’re Boydie, Miller or McCann.
comment by JFK (U8919)
posted 22 minutes ago
I think the heat coming his way is because the majority of people expected a rangers win at the weekend.
and then he done something really dumb, he kept going long because we had a defensive crisis, problem is he went long to what appears to be an absolute dud in dessers.
i'm not changing my tune on celtic, i thought some players had a good game yesterday, o'riley, scales, holm when he came on, hart, johnston.
but i don't think we look good overall, and our goal wasn't a well worked move as much as a bit of luck matched with a striker with ridiculously sharp instincts.
one thing i will say, can we please get turnbull in the bin.
a sub, no more.
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Their tactics yesterday had everyone baffled.
They've been at their best against us when using the high press and snuffing McGregor out of the game. To sit off us and allow us to build our play up, especially from a makeshift back 4 was criminal.
The longer we had the ball the quieter the stadium got.
Both Lammers and Cantwell are best deployed in a central position behind the striker(s) imho
If you play both, they both try and do the same job, and again, we seriously lack width as a result
Johnston used to have Kent on toast…..Matondo up against him yesterday, same story. Only joy anyone had against Johnston was Sterling when, as a right footed left back, he cut inside instead of trying to get down the line…sad state of affairs when that’s the most joy you are getting out wide
Would have been worth switching Matondo over to Taylor’s side and Roofe over to Johnston and seeing if it made a difference, see if we could make any more inroads…but even a small tweak like that seemed to be beyond Beale
The noise when he took Roofe off instead of Dessers was a clear statement from the fans
comment by Dave The Jackal (U22179)
posted 46 seconds ago
comment by Magnum (2 in a row easy) (U22391)
posted 9 minutes ago
It's obvious that Beale is useless. Just listen to anyone of his interviews. The guy's a dud.
However the job of a Rangers manager is to maintain your position as the second best team in the country and get an occasional trophy. He's probably capable of that so there's really no point in replacing him.
As for Cantwell...absolutely pathetic but, as I've said on here recently, the bears are kidding themselves on about Raskin. He has almost zero impact on games.
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BR can and does spout pash at times, but Beale’s interviews (every one of them) are a whole new level of nothingness. Just meaningless drivel from start to finish, every time. He’s absolutely deluded if he genuinely thought they had the better chances and deserved to win. As for it not being a foul for their “goal”, as Dessers had “planted his foot first” … WTF?! Is he making up new laws of the game now? Lagerbloke got away with dwelling on the ball too long (one of his many errors in the day), but technically it was 100% a foul all day long … unless you’re Boydie, Miller or McCann.
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Think someone mentioned it yesterday.. he's a used car salesman
Not gonna get into the argument over whether that was a foul or not
Still to see where in the rules it states that getting your foot in front of the ball while a player is making the motion to kick it is a foul but hey ho
We have far bigger issues than that
said at the time i think its a foul, doesn't touch the ball, impedes the player in possessions foot.
thats a foul, i thought the same when we played you last year and kent did it to abada.
problem seems to be consistency.
comment by St3vie (U11028)
posted 37 seconds ago
Not gonna get into the argument over whether that was a foul or not
Still to see where in the rules it states that getting your foot in front of the ball while a player is making the motion to kick it is a foul but hey ho
We have far bigger issues than that
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Madden's explanation is very good tbf.
https://www.instagram.com/stories/bobby_madden_/3183739249168674481/
A crumb of comfort for you Stevie, the boy sterling looked no bad, certainly no worse than barasic from what I’ve seen of him!
comment by bmcl1987 - the M stands for meltdown 🤓 (U14177)
posted 1 minute ago
A crumb of comfort for you Stevie, the boy sterling looked no bad, certainly no worse than barasic from what I’ve seen of him!
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He's mince.
Beale should already have been sacked.
Clueless, schite signings, disastrous record in big games, no identity, no style, and talks pash.
If we want to save this season, he can't manage another game.
comment by St3vie (U11028)
posted 27 minutes ago
Not gonna get into the argument over whether that was a foul or not
Still to see where in the rules it states that getting your foot in front of the ball while a player is making the motion to kick it is a foul but hey ho
We have far bigger issues than that
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When would that ever NOT be a foul?!! Getting your foot in the way to clip someone, without touching the ball, as they’re about to pass it … the very definition of a foul, surely?!
Not so much time up for me as I'm a believer in giving Managers as much time as possible. I think we got rid of Gio prematurely and with hindsight there's a strong argument he was hard done by in all honesty.
But Beale isn't up to the job. Yesterday was as clueless a set up as I can remember since Pedro took off 3 of his back 4 in his second game at home to Motherwell. Players were frustrated, seemed to be confused as to what they were being asked to do and he somehow overcomplicated a game plan that with the vulnerabilities Celtic had at the back and arguably across the team after recent weeks should have been fairly sensible and obvious.
He's now nearly a year in and never mind his best team, he doesn't seem to know what system he prefers. He has changed system and selection for each game this season and his comments on Friday about a preference to set up with a back 3 but not getting the centre back he wanted forcing him to change that were baffling.
He is clearly a well regarded coach but as we have seen in other situations it doesn't always make you a good Manager and vice versa. I haven't seen the support as unified in their views on a Manager before and can't remember such a vocal expression of feeling as I did at full time yesterday. The only comparison was Le Guen's last game vs Motherwell after he dropped Ferguson off the back of a bad run of results - he was gone a couple of days later.
Unfortunately I don't think Beale is going anywhere having just funded a summer rebuild which means he probably limps on to the winter break and keeps an eye on Championship jobs that might be coming up down south in the meantime. It's a shame because Celtic look to have regressed significantly and at this stage in the season a decent Manager would be more than capable of winning the league this season. The damage will most likely be done by Christmas however when someone else will come in halfway through a season and we go through it all again next summer.
beale is very much on his own now.
not my points deficit
not my players
he's been here nearly a year now, it's on him.
talks a lot, doesn't really show much for it though.
decent coach as you say, but not much of a manager.
i hated the whole "mastermind behind gerrards success", what success? he lost far more than he won, and if he was the brains behind the positives is he not at fault for the negs?
comment by JFK (U8919)
posted 50 seconds ago
beale is very much on his own now.
not my points deficit
not my players
he's been here nearly a year now, it's on him.
talks a lot, doesn't really show much for it though.
decent coach as you say, but not much of a manager.
i hated the whole "mastermind behind gerrards success", what success? he lost far more than he won, and if he was the brains behind the positives is he not at fault for the negs?
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I think this is probably what prompts a lot of the ill feeling towards him. People could in some ways respect or have empathy for guys like Pedro or Warburton. They weren't up to it and that was that. With Beale there's a feeling he's trying to pull the wool over your eyes. He bought a lot of time last season with promises of how it would look this season and avoided a lot of criticism on the basis people were willing to see how it looked when it was his team.
Its not so much now that people are being impatient by judging him in September, more a case of we gave you a free hit for 9 months to put your stamp on it and you have made it worse.
Its a difficult one though because he has lost the support but isn't going anywhere. He could win the next few games 5-0 and it will make no difference.
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posted on 4/9/23
I think the heat coming his way is because the majority of people expected a rangers win at the weekend.
and then he done something really dumb, he kept going long because we had a defensive crisis, problem is he went long to what appears to be an absolute dud in dessers.
i'm not changing my tune on celtic, i thought some players had a good game yesterday, o'riley, scales, holm when he came on, hart, johnston.
but i don't think we look good overall, and our goal wasn't a well worked move as much as a bit of luck matched with a striker with ridiculously sharp instincts.
one thing i will say, can we please get turnbull in the bin.
a sub, no more.
posted on 4/9/23
Obviously want him to stay but yes, rarely see such unanimity amongst bears. First big test for Bennet & Bisgrove. Couldn't believe Beale, after watching our loss and draw, didn't man mark Calmac in the 1H. Then he sacrifices his best goalscorer to do the job 2H. Cantwell out wide and we've won a watch too.
Whilst not wanting to derail your thread, a big concern for me is that the grim grind out of the result for us papers over the gaping cracks (oooer) we have on our side. Yes, we absolutely exposed your defence and created plenty chances but our slow play around the back under decent bear pressure was heart in mouth stuff. 1-0 is rarely enough in a derby and it was inviting an equaliser. The only thing I can think is Rodgers was scheiting it off anyone with any pace so decided to sit deep.
Like you lot, we know how this goes and it is not a happy ending.
posted on 4/9/23
your man cantwell is pathetic btw
posted on 4/9/23
Must admit to have been really surprised at how sh111te youse were.......as bad as we were youse were worse.........the standard of yesterday's game was mingin.......said as much on the live thread
posted on 4/9/23
souttar is a bit of a lump eh?
he'll do the heavy work.
posted on 4/9/23
It's obvious that Beale is useless. Just listen to anyone of his interviews. The guy's a dud.
However the job of a Rangers manager is to maintain your position as the second best team in the country and get an occasional trophy. He's probably capable of that so there's really no point in replacing him.
As for Cantwell...absolutely pathetic but, as I've said on here recently, the bears are kidding themselves on about Raskin. He has almost zero impact on games.
posted on 4/9/23
My opinion is not based on how much we expected to win yesterday, our how poor Celtics side were or should have been with untried centre halves
It’s all on how we setup, what our shape is, what our game plan is etc…..
He wants to use our full backs as our width, neither of whom are good enough to do that job up and down the park for 90mins
He said he wanted to do 3-5-2, seems one man was pivotal to that, we didn’t get him, he’s spat the dummy…other thing to be said is, if we got that man, was our entire season built on one man staying fit so we could play that 3-5-2
We got rid of Kent…Matondo is the upgrade, guy couldn’t get a game last term and is worse than Sakala who we also let go
£6m spent on Danilo…doesn’t start
Midfield totally bypassed all game, almost all game, hopeless
Our passing is bloody woeful
Defensive headers…we don’t look to find a man, we just get a heid on it and don’t give a monkeys where it goes
It’s all $hite and is sod all to do with our opponents, it’s all us
posted on 4/9/23
the lad danilo looks to be an expensive dud at this point, littel about him.
i do think there is more to dessers with the right use of him, bad miss yesterday but ball just gets stuck under him, happens.
posted on 4/9/23
sorry not dessers, lammers.
stupid names.
posted on 4/9/23
Butters, Tavers, Golders, Souttars, Borners, Canters, Raskers, Lammers, Dessers, Simers, Lunders
posted on 4/9/23
comment by Magnum (2 in a row easy) (U22391)
posted 9 minutes ago
It's obvious that Beale is useless. Just listen to anyone of his interviews. The guy's a dud.
However the job of a Rangers manager is to maintain your position as the second best team in the country and get an occasional trophy. He's probably capable of that so there's really no point in replacing him.
As for Cantwell...absolutely pathetic but, as I've said on here recently, the bears are kidding themselves on about Raskin. He has almost zero impact on games.
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BR can and does spout pash at times, but Beale’s interviews (every one of them) are a whole new level of nothingness. Just meaningless drivel from start to finish, every time. He’s absolutely deluded if he genuinely thought they had the better chances and deserved to win. As for it not being a foul for their “goal”, as Dessers had “planted his foot first” … WTF?! Is he making up new laws of the game now? Lagerbloke got away with dwelling on the ball too long (one of his many errors in the day), but technically it was 100% a foul all day long … unless you’re Boydie, Miller or McCann.
posted on 4/9/23
comment by JFK (U8919)
posted 22 minutes ago
I think the heat coming his way is because the majority of people expected a rangers win at the weekend.
and then he done something really dumb, he kept going long because we had a defensive crisis, problem is he went long to what appears to be an absolute dud in dessers.
i'm not changing my tune on celtic, i thought some players had a good game yesterday, o'riley, scales, holm when he came on, hart, johnston.
but i don't think we look good overall, and our goal wasn't a well worked move as much as a bit of luck matched with a striker with ridiculously sharp instincts.
one thing i will say, can we please get turnbull in the bin.
a sub, no more.
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Their tactics yesterday had everyone baffled.
They've been at their best against us when using the high press and snuffing McGregor out of the game. To sit off us and allow us to build our play up, especially from a makeshift back 4 was criminal.
The longer we had the ball the quieter the stadium got.
posted on 4/9/23
Both Lammers and Cantwell are best deployed in a central position behind the striker(s) imho
If you play both, they both try and do the same job, and again, we seriously lack width as a result
Johnston used to have Kent on toast…..Matondo up against him yesterday, same story. Only joy anyone had against Johnston was Sterling when, as a right footed left back, he cut inside instead of trying to get down the line…sad state of affairs when that’s the most joy you are getting out wide
Would have been worth switching Matondo over to Taylor’s side and Roofe over to Johnston and seeing if it made a difference, see if we could make any more inroads…but even a small tweak like that seemed to be beyond Beale
The noise when he took Roofe off instead of Dessers was a clear statement from the fans
posted on 4/9/23
comment by Dave The Jackal (U22179)
posted 46 seconds ago
comment by Magnum (2 in a row easy) (U22391)
posted 9 minutes ago
It's obvious that Beale is useless. Just listen to anyone of his interviews. The guy's a dud.
However the job of a Rangers manager is to maintain your position as the second best team in the country and get an occasional trophy. He's probably capable of that so there's really no point in replacing him.
As for Cantwell...absolutely pathetic but, as I've said on here recently, the bears are kidding themselves on about Raskin. He has almost zero impact on games.
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BR can and does spout pash at times, but Beale’s interviews (every one of them) are a whole new level of nothingness. Just meaningless drivel from start to finish, every time. He’s absolutely deluded if he genuinely thought they had the better chances and deserved to win. As for it not being a foul for their “goal”, as Dessers had “planted his foot first” … WTF?! Is he making up new laws of the game now? Lagerbloke got away with dwelling on the ball too long (one of his many errors in the day), but technically it was 100% a foul all day long … unless you’re Boydie, Miller or McCann.
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Think someone mentioned it yesterday.. he's a used car salesman
posted on 4/9/23
Not gonna get into the argument over whether that was a foul or not
Still to see where in the rules it states that getting your foot in front of the ball while a player is making the motion to kick it is a foul but hey ho
We have far bigger issues than that
posted on 4/9/23
said at the time i think its a foul, doesn't touch the ball, impedes the player in possessions foot.
thats a foul, i thought the same when we played you last year and kent did it to abada.
problem seems to be consistency.
posted on 4/9/23
comment by St3vie (U11028)
posted 37 seconds ago
Not gonna get into the argument over whether that was a foul or not
Still to see where in the rules it states that getting your foot in front of the ball while a player is making the motion to kick it is a foul but hey ho
We have far bigger issues than that
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Madden's explanation is very good tbf.
https://www.instagram.com/stories/bobby_madden_/3183739249168674481/
posted on 4/9/23
A crumb of comfort for you Stevie, the boy sterling looked no bad, certainly no worse than barasic from what I’ve seen of him!
posted on 4/9/23
comment by bmcl1987 - the M stands for meltdown 🤓 (U14177)
posted 1 minute ago
A crumb of comfort for you Stevie, the boy sterling looked no bad, certainly no worse than barasic from what I’ve seen of him!
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He's mince.
posted on 4/9/23
Beale should already have been sacked.
Clueless, schite signings, disastrous record in big games, no identity, no style, and talks pash.
If we want to save this season, he can't manage another game.
posted on 4/9/23
comment by St3vie (U11028)
posted 27 minutes ago
Not gonna get into the argument over whether that was a foul or not
Still to see where in the rules it states that getting your foot in front of the ball while a player is making the motion to kick it is a foul but hey ho
We have far bigger issues than that
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When would that ever NOT be a foul?!! Getting your foot in the way to clip someone, without touching the ball, as they’re about to pass it … the very definition of a foul, surely?!
posted on 4/9/23
Not so much time up for me as I'm a believer in giving Managers as much time as possible. I think we got rid of Gio prematurely and with hindsight there's a strong argument he was hard done by in all honesty.
But Beale isn't up to the job. Yesterday was as clueless a set up as I can remember since Pedro took off 3 of his back 4 in his second game at home to Motherwell. Players were frustrated, seemed to be confused as to what they were being asked to do and he somehow overcomplicated a game plan that with the vulnerabilities Celtic had at the back and arguably across the team after recent weeks should have been fairly sensible and obvious.
He's now nearly a year in and never mind his best team, he doesn't seem to know what system he prefers. He has changed system and selection for each game this season and his comments on Friday about a preference to set up with a back 3 but not getting the centre back he wanted forcing him to change that were baffling.
He is clearly a well regarded coach but as we have seen in other situations it doesn't always make you a good Manager and vice versa. I haven't seen the support as unified in their views on a Manager before and can't remember such a vocal expression of feeling as I did at full time yesterday. The only comparison was Le Guen's last game vs Motherwell after he dropped Ferguson off the back of a bad run of results - he was gone a couple of days later.
Unfortunately I don't think Beale is going anywhere having just funded a summer rebuild which means he probably limps on to the winter break and keeps an eye on Championship jobs that might be coming up down south in the meantime. It's a shame because Celtic look to have regressed significantly and at this stage in the season a decent Manager would be more than capable of winning the league this season. The damage will most likely be done by Christmas however when someone else will come in halfway through a season and we go through it all again next summer.
posted on 4/9/23
beale is very much on his own now.
not my points deficit
not my players
he's been here nearly a year now, it's on him.
talks a lot, doesn't really show much for it though.
decent coach as you say, but not much of a manager.
i hated the whole "mastermind behind gerrards success", what success? he lost far more than he won, and if he was the brains behind the positives is he not at fault for the negs?
posted on 4/9/23
No plan no clue
Gtf
posted on 4/9/23
comment by JFK (U8919)
posted 50 seconds ago
beale is very much on his own now.
not my points deficit
not my players
he's been here nearly a year now, it's on him.
talks a lot, doesn't really show much for it though.
decent coach as you say, but not much of a manager.
i hated the whole "mastermind behind gerrards success", what success? he lost far more than he won, and if he was the brains behind the positives is he not at fault for the negs?
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I think this is probably what prompts a lot of the ill feeling towards him. People could in some ways respect or have empathy for guys like Pedro or Warburton. They weren't up to it and that was that. With Beale there's a feeling he's trying to pull the wool over your eyes. He bought a lot of time last season with promises of how it would look this season and avoided a lot of criticism on the basis people were willing to see how it looked when it was his team.
Its not so much now that people are being impatient by judging him in September, more a case of we gave you a free hit for 9 months to put your stamp on it and you have made it worse.
Its a difficult one though because he has lost the support but isn't going anywhere. He could win the next few games 5-0 and it will make no difference.
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