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Some thoughts on Archie Gray

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comment by Stoopo (U4707)

posted on 19/9/23

I read that Farke doesn't want to play him in the U21's because he's going to get enough game time in the 1st team.

Maybe he will need a rest at times and we now have the squad to allow that. A wet and windy night in Hull might be a good time to rest him but his link up with Ampadu is starting to look excellent and I expect him to start.

posted on 19/9/23

Agree.

Ive heard the normal cliches for the last few weeks, too young, dont want burn out etc etc.

Its almost like they want him dropped so these midfield signings can be justified.

If he’s playing well, why take him out of the side 🤷🏻‍♂️

comment by Stoopo (U4707)

posted on 19/9/23

comment by LIW Rad a %#@% and so is Orta (U8453)
posted 3 minutes ago
Agree.

Ive heard the normal cliches for the last few weeks, too young, dont want burn out etc etc.

Its almost like they want him dropped so these midfield signings can be justified.

If he’s playing well, why take him out of the side 🤷🏻‍♂️
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There will be some players who need a rest at times this season. Gray might be one of them.

That's why we need good cover in every position.

It's a long, hard season in this league. 3 games inside 7 days this week. 2 away in what looks like poor conditions. Hull have a distinct advantage recovery-wise having played at home on Friday night.

posted on 19/9/23

I don't remember Birmingham resting Jude Bellingham 🤔

comment by Jaz63 (U8369)

posted on 19/9/23

I was surprised Gray played at Millwall - that's always a "tasty" fixture - but I think he managed the physical thing pretty well. He's pretty chunky, a bit like Eddie really.

Maybe the club want to represent themselves as protective and responsible but at the same time they need to maximise the return to be had from what seems to be a fine young prospect. Was Milner "protected"? He started young too.

posted on 19/9/23

Yep, Milner was 16 when he came on as a sub and scored against Chelsea!..

Lorimer was 15 and they both turned out to be great players!..

They say if you're good enough you're old enough, and Gray has definitely started with class!..

comment by Batty (U4664)

posted on 19/9/23

That's why you need a bigger squad than our former
brain trust went with before. All players need rest.
Especially in the Championship with the games the
way they are and quantity. I hope Farke rests Ampadu
tonight. Archie & Ethan have been stellar. Hope the
club manage both properly for the long run.

posted on 19/9/23

It’s been years now since I read it, but I remember reading something about Wayne Rooney/Theo Walcott and how playing too much at a young age can risk injury because your body is still growing.

Don’t quote this, just something I’m sure I’ve read. Maybe for his long term career managing his game time at 17 is a good thing, although I agree he’s playing well and shouldn’t be dropped for the sake of it

posted on 19/9/23

Was he not out injured for a while last season because of problems in his development?..

I think there was something said at the time it had something to do with his age and he was out for a while!..

comment by Stoopo (U4707)

posted on 19/9/23

comment by Batty (U4664)
posted 6 hours, 2 minutes ago
That's why you need a bigger squad than our former
brain trust went with before. All players need rest.
Especially in the Championship with the games the
way they are and quantity. I hope Farke rests Ampadu
tonight. Archie & Ethan have been stellar. Hope the
club manage both properly for the long run.
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He will definitely rest him tonight - we play tomorrow 🤣🤣🤣

posted on 19/9/23

A day longer rest works wonders!.

comment by Mattyp (U8926)

posted on 19/9/23

Christmas period looks as tight as usual so it wi be good to have extra bodies.

I think rotation is going to be important this year, players will get a chance but i don't see any reason at all to drop Gray, just monitor his fitness and if the club is happy play him.

He deserves it

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