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posted on 2/10/23

comment by RenegadeOF (U9457)
posted 3 hours, 2 minutes ago
comment by WorkPermitPending (U1067)
posted 40 minutes ago
comment by HB Maybe Beale wasn't the mastermind (U21935)
posted 8 hours, 31 minutes ago
comment by WorkPermitPending (U1067)
posted 1 minute ago
Thank fook the clown is gone, but his transfer business will have done lasting damage to the club. Lammers, Dessers and Danilo all a total write-off, Dowell only signed to keep the physios busy. Shambles.
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Danilo will be good
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I've seen nothing to make me believe this. Even the YouTube highlights videos that make everyone look like Maradona manage to make him look piish.
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Never understood the optimism for Danilo over Lammers or Desserrs. Missed a couple big chances for us, but doesn’t get same criticism. Also hasn’t shown as much as quality as Lammers.

Not writing any of them off myself. Dessers looks a dud, and at 29 looks a complete waste of money. But can only improve with some confidence and some sort of actual tactics.
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I think it is because Danillo has at least looked like he has decent ability and decent attributes as a player. Plus he seemed reasonably well liked at his previous club and did well enough as a back up striker in a title winning team.

In contrast Dessers cant head the ball, cant hold it up or link play, cant run and certainly cant finish.

Lammers flatters to deceive. Shows some nice touches 20-40 yards from goal but doesnt create anything or score goals.

Danillo looks like he could become a reasonably regular scorer if he gets more of a chance at CF rather than on the left of a front three which is where Beale tended to play him to accommodate Dessers.

posted on 2/10/23

comment by Humble Hamish (U21959)
posted 1 hour, 14 minutes ago
comment by RenegadeOF (U9457)
posted 3 hours, 2 minutes ago
comment by WorkPermitPending (U1067)
posted 40 minutes ago
comment by HB Maybe Beale wasn't the mastermind (U21935)
posted 8 hours, 31 minutes ago
comment by WorkPermitPending (U1067)
posted 1 minute ago
Thank fook the clown is gone, but his transfer business will have done lasting damage to the club. Lammers, Dessers and Danilo all a total write-off, Dowell only signed to keep the physios busy. Shambles.
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Danilo will be good
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I've seen nothing to make me believe this. Even the YouTube highlights videos that make everyone look like Maradona manage to make him look piish.
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Never understood the optimism for Danilo over Lammers or Desserrs. Missed a couple big chances for us, but doesn’t get same criticism. Also hasn’t shown as much as quality as Lammers.

Not writing any of them off myself. Dessers looks a dud, and at 29 looks a complete waste of money. But can only improve with some confidence and some sort of actual tactics.
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I think it is because Danillo has at least looked like he has decent ability and decent attributes as a player. Plus he seemed reasonably well liked at his previous club and did well enough as a back up striker in a title winning team.

In contrast Dessers cant head the ball, cant hold it up or link play, cant run and certainly cant finish.

Lammers flatters to deceive. Shows some nice touches 20-40 yards from goal but doesnt create anything or score goals.

Danillo looks like he could become a reasonably regular scorer if he gets more of a chance at CF rather than on the left of a front three which is where Beale tended to play him to accommodate Dessers.
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Lammers has shown more in terms of better attributes than Danilo. Danilo is being given benefit of the doubt for being played out of position yet Lammers isn’t. Remains to be seen if either could perform and score regularly up top.

And Lammers was more highly rated in Holland in as a striker when compared to Danilo. Individually, Dessers also performed just as well and probably better than Danilo was for Feyenoord.

Danilo being hyped purely because he’s Brazilian it would seem.

posted on 2/10/23

comment by JukeboxJunkie (U10162)
posted 2 hours, 8 minutes ago
comment by Silver (U6112)
posted 2 hours, 32 minutes ago
Some think the players have downed tools?

Still pining for DeWalt?


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Maaaaaate.

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posted on 2/10/23

comment by RenegadeOF (U9457)
posted 1 hour, 41 minutes ago
comment by Humble Hamish (U21959)
posted 1 hour, 14 minutes ago
comment by RenegadeOF (U9457)
posted 3 hours, 2 minutes ago
comment by WorkPermitPending (U1067)
posted 40 minutes ago
comment by HB Maybe Beale wasn't the mastermind (U21935)
posted 8 hours, 31 minutes ago
comment by WorkPermitPending (U1067)
posted 1 minute ago
Thank fook the clown is gone, but his transfer business will have done lasting damage to the club. Lammers, Dessers and Danilo all a total write-off, Dowell only signed to keep the physios busy. Shambles.
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Danilo will be good
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I've seen nothing to make me believe this. Even the YouTube highlights videos that make everyone look like Maradona manage to make him look piish.
----------------------------------------------------------------------

Never understood the optimism for Danilo over Lammers or Desserrs. Missed a couple big chances for us, but doesn’t get same criticism. Also hasn’t shown as much as quality as Lammers.

Not writing any of them off myself. Dessers looks a dud, and at 29 looks a complete waste of money. But can only improve with some confidence and some sort of actual tactics.
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I think it is because Danillo has at least looked like he has decent ability and decent attributes as a player. Plus he seemed reasonably well liked at his previous club and did well enough as a back up striker in a title winning team.

In contrast Dessers cant head the ball, cant hold it up or link play, cant run and certainly cant finish.

Lammers flatters to deceive. Shows some nice touches 20-40 yards from goal but doesnt create anything or score goals.

Danillo looks like he could become a reasonably regular scorer if he gets more of a chance at CF rather than on the left of a front three which is where Beale tended to play him to accommodate Dessers.
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Lammers has shown more in terms of better attributes than Danilo. Danilo is being given benefit of the doubt for being played out of position yet Lammers isn’t. Remains to be seen if either could perform and score regularly up top.

And Lammers was more highly rated in Holland in as a striker when compared to Danilo. Individually, Dessers also performed just as well and probably better than Danilo was for Feyenoord.

Danilo being hyped purely because he’s Brazilian it would seem.
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Couldnt care less about his nationality to be honest.

Theres hardly been a track record of super successful Brazilian players in our league. Quite the opposite so in isolation the fact he is Brazilian is more likely to give me the fear based on experience.

Lammers is a lot of fuss about nothing for me. Pointless stepovers with nothing at the end of it.

From the evidence to date Dessers is simply one of the worst number 9s I have seen at Rangers in a long time. The panicked slashed finish for that early chance on saturday tells you everything you need to know. Colak scores that chance all day long.

posted on 2/10/23

comment by Humble Hamish (U21959)
posted 16 minutes ago
comment by RenegadeOF (U9457)
posted 1 hour, 41 minutes ago
comment by Humble Hamish (U21959)
posted 1 hour, 14 minutes ago
comment by RenegadeOF (U9457)
posted 3 hours, 2 minutes ago
comment by WorkPermitPending (U1067)
posted 40 minutes ago
comment by HB Maybe Beale wasn't the mastermind (U21935)
posted 8 hours, 31 minutes ago
comment by WorkPermitPending (U1067)
posted 1 minute ago
Thank fook the clown is gone, but his transfer business will have done lasting damage to the club. Lammers, Dessers and Danilo all a total write-off, Dowell only signed to keep the physios busy. Shambles.
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Danilo will be good
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I've seen nothing to make me believe this. Even the YouTube highlights videos that make everyone look like Maradona manage to make him look piish.
----------------------------------------------------------------------

Never understood the optimism for Danilo over Lammers or Desserrs. Missed a couple big chances for us, but doesn’t get same criticism. Also hasn’t shown as much as quality as Lammers.

Not writing any of them off myself. Dessers looks a dud, and at 29 looks a complete waste of money. But can only improve with some confidence and some sort of actual tactics.
----------------------------------------------------------------------

I think it is because Danillo has at least looked like he has decent ability and decent attributes as a player. Plus he seemed reasonably well liked at his previous club and did well enough as a back up striker in a title winning team.

In contrast Dessers cant head the ball, cant hold it up or link play, cant run and certainly cant finish.

Lammers flatters to deceive. Shows some nice touches 20-40 yards from goal but doesnt create anything or score goals.

Danillo looks like he could become a reasonably regular scorer if he gets more of a chance at CF rather than on the left of a front three which is where Beale tended to play him to accommodate Dessers.
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Lammers has shown more in terms of better attributes than Danilo. Danilo is being given benefit of the doubt for being played out of position yet Lammers isn’t. Remains to be seen if either could perform and score regularly up top.

And Lammers was more highly rated in Holland in as a striker when compared to Danilo. Individually, Dessers also performed just as well and probably better than Danilo was for Feyenoord.

Danilo being hyped purely because he’s Brazilian it would seem.
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Couldnt care less about his nationality to be honest.

Theres hardly been a track record of super successful Brazilian players in our league. Quite the opposite so in isolation the fact he is Brazilian is more likely to give me the fear based on experience.

Lammers is a lot of fuss about nothing for me. Pointless stepovers with nothing at the end of it.

From the evidence to date Dessers is simply one of the worst number 9s I have seen at Rangers in a long time. The panicked slashed finish for that early chance on saturday tells you everything you need to know. Colak scores that chance all day long.
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Not arguing anything other than the fact that Dessers looks a dud, said exactly that.

Just making the point there is no reason to put more faith in Danilo than Lammers, as everything you said in Danilo’s favour also applies to Lammers. If not more so.

posted on 2/10/23

I still don’t get where you’re getting your confidence in Lammers. He’s had 1 decent season in top flight football 4 years ago. He’s 26 now.

posted on 2/10/23

Btw-this is the bit I don’t like. Waiting on the chance that you’ll get an actual competent manager.

posted on 2/10/23

comment by Changing my name from My POV - but not decided what to change it to yet (U10636)
posted 9 minutes ago
Btw-this is the bit I don’t like. Waiting on the chance that you’ll get an actual competent manager.
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Like that'll happen with the current Rangers board.

posted on 2/10/23

Just making the point there is no reason to put more faith in Danilo than Lammers, as everything you said in Danilo’s favour also applies to Lammers. If not more so.
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I think you can see the type of player Danilo is. Hes a nimble mobile CF who looks like he just needs to settle and relax a bit. He seems a bit like Defoe but not as good.

I dont think Lammers looks remotely like a CF tbh. He looks like a number 10 to me. But a number 10 who doenst create or score goals. One who just floats about doing some nice but generally inconsequential stuff. Maybe he will surprise us all.

posted on 2/10/23

comment by Zico - Celtic Treble Winners 22/23 (U21900)
posted 11 minutes ago
comment by Changing my name from My POV - but not decided what to change it to yet (U10636)
posted 9 minutes ago
Btw-this is the bit I don’t like. Waiting on the chance that you’ll get an actual competent manager.
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Like that'll happen with the current Rangers board.
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It’s the ‘new’ board making the decision this time though. Maybe they’ll get it right?

comment by Silver (U6112)

posted on 2/10/23

comment by Humble Hamish (U21959)
posted 31 minutes ago
Just making the point there is no reason to put more faith in Danilo than Lammers, as everything you said in Danilo’s favour also applies to Lammers. If not more so.
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He seems a bit like Defoe but not as good.
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New team shaɡɡer!

posted on 2/10/23

comment by Humble Hamish (U21959)
posted 43 minutes ago
Just making the point there is no reason to put more faith in Danilo than Lammers, as everything you said in Danilo’s favour also applies to Lammers. If not more so.
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I think you can see the type of player Danilo is. Hes a nimble mobile CF who looks like he just needs to settle and relax a bit. He seems a bit like Defoe but not as good.

I dont think Lammers looks remotely like a CF tbh. He looks like a number 10 to me. But a number 10 who doenst create or score goals. One who just floats about doing some nice but generally inconsequential stuff. Maybe he will surprise us all.
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We've all seen enough of Lammers to know that he's not up to it. Not sure why renegade keeps pushing the striker line. He's a dud in every position.

Danillo has the advantage of actually looking like a footballer and i suspect he'll turn out to be by far the best of the three.

As for Dessers, I've mainly see him looking anguished and/or with his arm up in an apologetic gesture. Chances of him making it are slim.

posted on 2/10/23

comment by Changing my name from My POV - but not decided... (U10636)
posted 1 hour, 12 minutes ago
I still don’t get where you’re getting your confidence in Lammers. He’s had 1 decent season in top flight football 4 years ago. He’s 26 now.


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Not got confidence as such and haven’t said that.

Rather saying don’t see why fans have more confidence in Danilo.

posted on 2/10/23

comment by Humble Hamish (U21959)
posted 57 minutes ago
Just making the point there is no reason to put more faith in Danilo than Lammers, as everything you said in Danilo’s favour also applies to Lammers. If not more so.
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I think you can see the type of player Danilo is. Hes a nimble mobile CF who looks like he just needs to settle and relax a bit. He seems a bit like Defoe but not as good.

I dont think Lammers looks remotely like a CF tbh. He looks like a number 10 to me. But a number 10 who doenst create or score goals. One who just floats about doing some nice but generally inconsequential stuff. Maybe he will surprise us all.
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I guess you agree with Beale as opposed to every other coach Lammers has had, at club level and at youth level internationally.

Or could just be that he’s played in various deeper positions so far, and that’s why he’s being seen as that type of player.

Both have it all to prove for me.

posted on 2/10/23

comment by RenegadeOF (U9457)
posted 13 minutes ago
comment by Humble Hamish (U21959)
posted 57 minutes ago
Just making the point there is no reason to put more faith in Danilo than Lammers, as everything you said in Danilo’s favour also applies to Lammers. If not more so.
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I think you can see the type of player Danilo is. Hes a nimble mobile CF who looks like he just needs to settle and relax a bit. He seems a bit like Defoe but not as good.

I dont think Lammers looks remotely like a CF tbh. He looks like a number 10 to me. But a number 10 who doenst create or score goals. One who just floats about doing some nice but generally inconsequential stuff. Maybe he will surprise us all.
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I guess you agree with Beale as opposed to every other coach Lammers has had, at club level and at youth level internationally.

Or could just be that he’s played in various deeper positions so far, and that’s why he’s being seen as that type of player.

Both have it all to prove for me.
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I haven't followed his career to date as closely as you seem to have.

posted on 2/10/23

It would be interesting to see Lammers play as a striker I guess. He just doesnt seem to have the attributes to play there. Doesnt look super mobile, doesnt look particularly aggressive or capable in the air and certainly doesnt strike you as a finisher or someone who has a nose for a chance in and around the box.

Worth trying him maybe?....he certainly cant be any worse than Dessers!?

posted on 2/10/23

comment by Magnum (3 in a row easy) (U22391)
posted 1 hour, 30 minutes ago
comment by RenegadeOF (U9457)
posted 13 minutes ago
comment by Humble Hamish (U21959)
posted 57 minutes ago
Just making the point there is no reason to put more faith in Danilo than Lammers, as everything you said in Danilo’s favour also applies to Lammers. If not more so.
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I think you can see the type of player Danilo is. Hes a nimble mobile CF who looks like he just needs to settle and relax a bit. He seems a bit like Defoe but not as good.

I dont think Lammers looks remotely like a CF tbh. He looks like a number 10 to me. But a number 10 who doenst create or score goals. One who just floats about doing some nice but generally inconsequential stuff. Maybe he will surprise us all.
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I guess you agree with Beale as opposed to every other coach Lammers has had, at club level and at youth level internationally.

Or could just be that he’s played in various deeper positions so far, and that’s why he’s being seen as that type of player.

Both have it all to prove for me.
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I haven't followed his career to date as closely as you seem to have.
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Fortunately it’s very very easy to simply look up such things in the space of a minute on that internet thing

posted on 2/10/23

comment by Humble Hamish (U21959)
posted 1 hour, 4 minutes ago
It would be interesting to see Lammers play as a striker I guess. He just doesnt seem to have the attributes to play there. Doesnt look super mobile, doesnt look particularly aggressive or capable in the air and certainly doesnt strike you as a finisher or someone who has a nose for a chance in and around the box.

Worth trying him maybe?....he certainly cant be any worse than Dessers!?
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I think he looks good in the air, sure he scored a good header in pre season and set up a goal recently with a header across goal.

Not saying he’s the answer. He simply doesn’t look like a 10 or midfielder and hasn’t performed there. So would be good to see him in the role he’s played all his career

posted on 2/10/23

comment by RenegadeOF (U9457)
posted 18 minutes ago
comment by Magnum (3 in a row easy) (U22391)
posted 1 hour, 30 minutes ago
comment by RenegadeOF (U9457)
posted 13 minutes ago
comment by Humble Hamish (U21959)
posted 57 minutes ago
Just making the point there is no reason to put more faith in Danilo than Lammers, as everything you said in Danilo’s favour also applies to Lammers. If not more so.
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I think you can see the type of player Danilo is. Hes a nimble mobile CF who looks like he just needs to settle and relax a bit. He seems a bit like Defoe but not as good.

I dont think Lammers looks remotely like a CF tbh. He looks like a number 10 to me. But a number 10 who doenst create or score goals. One who just floats about doing some nice but generally inconsequential stuff. Maybe he will surprise us all.
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I guess you agree with Beale as opposed to every other coach Lammers has had, at club level and at youth level internationally.

Or could just be that he’s played in various deeper positions so far, and that’s why he’s being seen as that type of player.

Both have it all to prove for me.
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I haven't followed his career to date as closely as you seem to have.
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Fortunately it’s very very easy to simply look up such things in the space of a minute on that internet thing
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And it tells you he’s scored about 10 goals as a centre forward since the start of season 2019.

Are rangers also his 6th club during that time as well? You were the one that was pointing out about other coaches and managers-they clearly think he’s p!sh as well then if they keep bumping him onto another team.

This is like when Castle wanted to play Jason Cummings.

posted on 2/10/23

comment by Changing my name from My POV - but not decided... (U10636)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by RenegadeOF (U9457)
posted 18 minutes ago
comment by Magnum (3 in a row easy) (U22391)
posted 1 hour, 30 minutes ago
comment by RenegadeOF (U9457)
posted 13 minutes ago
comment by Humble Hamish (U21959)
posted 57 minutes ago
Just making the point there is no reason to put more faith in Danilo than Lammers, as everything you said in Danilo’s favour also applies to Lammers. If not more so.
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I think you can see the type of player Danilo is. Hes a nimble mobile CF who looks like he just needs to settle and relax a bit. He seems a bit like Defoe but not as good.

I dont think Lammers looks remotely like a CF tbh. He looks like a number 10 to me. But a number 10 who doenst create or score goals. One who just floats about doing some nice but generally inconsequential stuff. Maybe he will surprise us all.
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I guess you agree with Beale as opposed to every other coach Lammers has had, at club level and at youth level internationally.

Or could just be that he’s played in various deeper positions so far, and that’s why he’s being seen as that type of player.

Both have it all to prove for me.
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I haven't followed his career to date as closely as you seem to have.
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Fortunately it’s very very easy to simply look up such things in the space of a minute on that internet thing
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And it tells you he’s scored about 10 goals as a centre forward since the start of season 2019.

Are rangers also his 6th club during that time as well? You were the one that was pointing out about other coaches and managers-they clearly think he’s p!sh as well then if they keep bumping him onto another team.

This is like when Castle wanted to play Jason Cummings.

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What the feck you on about, play?

I’ve said he’s got it all to prove. But is a striker and should be given a chance. What part of that is it you’re looking to play???

Happy to give him a chance, and not write a player off based on number of clubs or playing out of position. Can easily look at CCV as an example who has failed to impress multiple times at multiple clubs when jumping from club to club before doing very well up here. And that was without any real evidence he could cut it.

comment by Silver (U6112)

posted on 2/10/23

comment by RenegadeOF (U9457)
posted 48 minutes ago

Fortunately it’s very very easy to simply look up such things in the space of a minute on that internet thing
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Usually only takes me a minute or two on xnxx tbf

posted on 2/10/23

‘What the feck you on about, play?’

There’s levels of stupidity, and then there’s that. Is it not clear that it’s a comparison of a time when another poster went on about something that was clearly daft?

No idea where you’re getting the impression that CCV didn’t impress when he was on loan from Spurs. He played more games than not, and Bournemouth wanted to keep him after his last loan spell. They were even still interested him after his loan spell with us.

This is a mental hill to die on-even for you.

Lammers has been passed about like an old scud book. You want him to play as a CF, and you’ve yet to put a coherent argument as to why that would be a good idea.

You’ve used the 1 good season that he did well in Holland, and that other coaches ‘rated’ him. They rated him that highly he’s been a sub pretty much as many times as he’s started-and that’s just a cursory glance without counting.

posted on 2/10/23

Lammers has been passed about like an old scud book. You want him to play as a CF, and you’ve yet to put a coherent argument as to why that would be a good idea.

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Aye mental to think a player that has played cf all his career before signing for us, should be given a chance in that position

Honestly mental to suggest you sign a player, then only give him a chance out of position

posted on 2/10/23

I see you didn’t bother with the rest of the post-must have really hit the spot with the rest of it then.

You defo should play him as a CF. He’s got a cracking track record for playing there.

I’ll grant you this-he’s probably worth a shot when compared to Dessers.

posted on 2/10/23

The rest of the post your going on about ‘rated’, I’ve not said anything about rating him or others rating him other than saying he was rated comparably to Danilo in Holland. And so should also be given a chance…

Would literally make the same point for absolutely any player we sign!

As for CCV you signed him on an option to buy, Bournemouth spend big when they want to so surprised at that suggestion.

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