Also i like how it brings officials into the spotlight too, next steps to mic them up so they have nowhere to hide and to start being held accountable more often. Only then we will see refereeing standards improve in the prem.

I would scrap VAR as well. These decisions are often subjective anyway, one ref calls it one way another sees it a different way - all VAR does is enrage in a lot of cases. How many fans are truly going to be pizzed off of the odd goals goes in against them where the attacker was actually offside by the width of a pube.

The calls for Saturdays game to be replayed have been hilarious, mostly because the fans are completely serious when they ask for that - the amount of times they have benefitted from a shocking decision though and not asked for similar

getting rid of VAR will not improve the disgustinlgy bad refereeiing standards in the league. VAR highlights how bad it actually is on a weekly basis. And for that alone its worth keeping.

comment by He who Dares, waits for Trophies (U15748)
posted 51 minutes ago
comment by WeekendOffender (U22920)
posted 10 minutes ago
Seems there were some huge bets on Spurs to win on Saturday placed in South East Asia? Interesting.
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links?

let’s see where you get your “truth” from?
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Wolves won a game so he is piping up again. You can tell when Spurs are doing well, this gimp is out in force

It's chit. I said this from the beginning. They used Hawkeye in cricket and killed the fun there too.

Human error makes sport exciting, even when it goes against you and to your fuming and discussing it in the pub or whatever.


The problems it's created with stupid handballs and hair breadth offsides is stupid as feck.

comment by Striketeam7 - There used to be a football club over there (U18109)
posted 32 seconds ago
I would scrap VAR as well. These decisions are often subjective anyway, one ref calls it one way another sees it a different way - all VAR does is enrage in a lot of cases. How many fans are truly going to be pizzed off of the odd goals goes in against them where the attacker was actually offside by the width of a pube.

The calls for Saturdays game to be replayed have been hilarious, mostly because the fans are completely serious when they ask for that - the amount of times they have benefitted from a shocking decision though and not asked for similar
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See this is the issue, people blame the technology for that, its not the fault of the technology its how its implemented. So again why focus on technology and not the poor state of officiating and implementation?

comment by Striketeam7 - There used to be a football club over there (U18109)
posted 2 minutes ago

the amount of times they have benefitted from a shocking decision though and not asked for similar
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Just for banter how many times is it? I wouldn't want anyone to think you're talking shiiiiiiiit again.

I mean, can you name a time, for example, when both the VAR and his assistant thought they were checking for a goal buy it turns out they were checking for a goal?

Anything on that level will do.

We'll wait.

comment by sandy, golden boot winner fa cup 1901 (U20567)
posted 1 hour, 18 minutes ago
Personally I would like it scrapped. It is taking all the joy out of being a supporter.

Just leave it to the ref. It will be swings and roundabouts for every team, as it was for 140 years before VAR.
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This idiot has spent years going around saying big clubs buy the refs, now it’s swings and roundabouts

What an idiot

Checking for a goal but should have been checking an offside*^^

comment by Striketeam7 - There used to be a football club over there (U18109)



Wolves won a game so he is piping up again. You can tell when Spurs are doing well, this gimp is out in force
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That makes no sense StrikeMug. Do you want to have another try?

comment by InBefore (U20589)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by Striketeam7 - There used to be a football club over there (U18109)
posted 32 seconds ago
I would scrap VAR as well. These decisions are often subjective anyway, one ref calls it one way another sees it a different way - all VAR does is enrage in a lot of cases. How many fans are truly going to be pizzed off of the odd goals goes in against them where the attacker was actually offside by the width of a pube.

The calls for Saturdays game to be replayed have been hilarious, mostly because the fans are completely serious when they ask for that - the amount of times they have benefitted from a shocking decision though and not asked for similar
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See this is the issue, people blame the technology for that, its not the fault of the technology its how its implemented. So again why focus on technology and not the poor state of officiating and implementation?
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Because human error will always be made regardless of how definitive the technology is - Saturday showed that. So we either move to robots making decisions or we accept that officials will make faaaack ups - if we go with the latter then why have VAR at all.

I’ve said this loads, but I’m a Sunday morning ref and VAR has absolutely khunted the game - the expectations from Sunday players now is that the ref sees absolutely everything, even the off the ball stuff whilst also over ruling a Lino for offside is if they think the lino is cheating. We’ve now got our matches filmed and uploaded on YouTube every week - I keep half expecting some Sunday morning Lineker to point out every free kick I missed.

Get rid of VAR and stop this madness.

I do like the stoppage time rule though, about time the time wasters were penalised

comment by WeekendOffender (U22920)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Striketeam7 - There used to be a football club over there (U18109)



Wolves won a game so he is piping up again. You can tell when Spurs are doing well, this gimp is out in force
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That makes no sense StrikeMug. Do you want to have another try?

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I sure with some focus you can add up what this comment was getting to, just use all 12 of your fingers

comment by Striketeam7 - There used to be a football club over there (U18109)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by InBefore (U20589)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by Striketeam7 - There used to be a football club over there (U18109)
posted 32 seconds ago
I would scrap VAR as well. These decisions are often subjective anyway, one ref calls it one way another sees it a different way - all VAR does is enrage in a lot of cases. How many fans are truly going to be pizzed off of the odd goals goes in against them where the attacker was actually offside by the width of a pube.

The calls for Saturdays game to be replayed have been hilarious, mostly because the fans are completely serious when they ask for that - the amount of times they have benefitted from a shocking decision though and not asked for similar
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See this is the issue, people blame the technology for that, its not the fault of the technology its how its implemented. So again why focus on technology and not the poor state of officiating and implementation?
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Because human error will always be made regardless of how definitive the technology is - Saturday showed that. So we either move to robots making decisions or we accept that officials will make faaaack ups - if we go with the latter then why have VAR at all.

I’ve said this loads, but I’m a Sunday morning ref and VAR has absolutely khunted the game - the expectations from Sunday players now is that the ref sees absolutely everything, even the off the ball stuff whilst also over ruling a Lino for offside is if they think the lino is cheating. We’ve now got our matches filmed and uploaded on YouTube every week - I keep half expecting some Sunday morning Lineker to point out every free kick I missed.

Get rid of VAR and stop this madness.

I do like the stoppage time rule though, about time the time wasters were penalised
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because as many have already pointed out if the laws and rules and way stuffs implemented that "human error" could have been resolved in seconds.....

so yes human errors will happen but if everythings in place, it can be resolved on the extremely rare occasions they should be happening.

we have to look at why it happened and put measures in place so it doesnt again or worse case if it does happen again we're able to resolve the mistake as swiftly as possible.

not just scrap it theyre useless whats the point.

Personally I'm not willing to scrap VAR because two people firstly thought they were checking whether it was a goal rather than offside. It's not even hard. To then not flag it is just rank amateur.

None of that is to do with the technology, it's everything to do with wilful neglect towards their role.

Both should he sacked.

Sure, let’s go back to Henry, Maradona cheating an entire nation.
Barcelona 2009 wouldn’t have won the CL with VAR in place.
Just get a competent system and end users in place.

as i said the way it highlights the poor standard of officiating and the need for improvement alone is worth keeping VAR.

comment by InBefore (U20589)
posted 7 minutes ago
as i said the way it highlights the poor standard of officiating and the need for improvement alone is worth keeping VAR.
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But the reffing is arguably getting worse, so what use is VAR having.

Spurs of course conceded the very first goal ever where a ref was asked to go to review the decision and then didn’t overturn his error. A home game against Brighton where PEH was fouled and Lamptey scored - we never got an apology or explanation as to why the faaaack he didn’t overturn his error.

Honestly if we’re keeping it then let an algorithm make the decision and the ref can just enact that decision on the pitch - otherwise you end up with 2 different human perspectives - which no faaacker wants

It's pointless getting rid of VAR.

I think the actual idea of it and the tech is pretty good. Just simply how it's used. I'd only use the tech for factual decisions such as offsides and where on the pitch something happened (like a foul really near the penalty area) and whether the ball did touch someone's hand if a penalty is given for handball (overturned if it's shown it didn't).

For subjective calls like bad challenges etc I'd leave it up to the ref on field but perhaps give the ref a change to right any wrong after the game and award a yellow/red as appropriate. Doesn't help with that game but would stop players perhaps thinking they could get away with stuff.

Oh and VAR can also intervene if cameras show a ref didn't have sight of an incident because they were perhaps dealing with something else.

The fix is in this year in an attempt to drag Spurs up the table. Every decision is going their way again.

At least a few of their “fans” that went into hiding all summer are back though 👍

comment by Robbing Hoody - I taught Szoboszlai how to cushion half volleys (U6374)
posted 1 hour ago
Personally I'm not willing to scrap VAR because two people firstly thought they were checking whether it was a goal rather than offside. It's not even hard. To then not flag it is just rank amateur.

None of that is to do with the technology, it's everything to do with wilful neglect towards their role.

Both should he sacked.
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i do wonder how many times this has happened already before but they havent confessed it

Trying to make a sport perfect is doomed to fail.
Complaining about refs errors has always been part of football, now we're arguing about refs getting it wrong twice.
I dont miss it at all this year, back to real football.
Scrap it but keep goal line tech.

Oh come on it was hilarious, only the Liverpool fans didn’t laugh