Have I got this wrong? Is football still as important to you now as it was during your younger days?
Not even remotely. When I was younger a loss would bother me a lot. Now 20 minutes after the final whistle in a loss I couldn’t give a fook unless of course it’s the mighty ROI
comment by Irishred (U2539)
posted 3 minutes ago
Have I got this wrong? Is football still as important to you now as it was during your younger days?
Not even remotely. When I was younger a loss would bother me a lot. Now 20 minutes after the final whistle in a loss I couldn’t give a fook unless of course it’s the mighty ROI
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Same. As a kid I would be attached to the radio listening to United games, I even had the Manchester Evening News stocked in my local newspaper in Bournemouth so I could read Manchester related news and every year for my birthday I’d beg my granddad to take me to United games so it was an obsession as a kid.
I guess to still be on this forum after all these years the obsession is still there to an extent but as a kid when we lost it would be like I lost and obviously when you become an adult you kinda grow out of that unless you’re Mark Goldbridge
comment by Irishred (U2539)
posted 6 minutes ago
Have I got this wrong? Is football still as important to you now as it was during your younger days?
Not even remotely. When I was younger a loss would bother me a lot. Now 20 minutes after the final whistle in a loss I couldn’t give a fook unless of course it’s the mighty ROI
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You'd have thought with our national teams we'd be used to losing! The funny parallel with United is that just as United have gone bad my country has done pretty well. Perhaps that is changing again now though with us not looking like we'll qualify for next year's Euros. Which is typical as it's in the perfect place for it!
comment by Irishred (U2539)
posted 6 minutes ago
Have I got this wrong? Is football still as important to you now as it was during your younger days?
Not even remotely. When I was younger a loss would bother me a lot. Now 20 minutes after the final whistle in a loss I couldn’t give a fook unless of course it’s the mighty ROI
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Nail on the head for me after a loss I would be in a huff for days and avoided mates and phone calls, now it's "aw fck it!" and move on
comment by Insufferable-Piffle (U4388)
posted 17 seconds ago
comment by Irishred (U2539)
posted 6 minutes ago
Have I got this wrong? Is football still as important to you now as it was during your younger days?
Not even remotely. When I was younger a loss would bother me a lot. Now 20 minutes after the final whistle in a loss I couldn’t give a fook unless of course it’s the mighty ROI
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Nail on the head for meafter a loss I would be in a huff for days and avoided mates and phone calls, now it's "aw fck it!" and move on
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Just imagine if social media was around when you were really bothered. I'd have hated that. Whatsapp going off every two minutes!
comment by Irishred (U2539)
posted 5 minutes ago
Have I got this wrong? Is football still as important to you now as it was during your younger days?
Not even remotely. When I was younger a loss would bother me a lot. Now 20 minutes after the final whistle in a loss I couldn’t give a fook unless of course it’s the mighty ROI
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International football is still relatively pure. You have more or less the same guys year in year out playing for the team. Matches are far less frequent but generally have a lot more riding on them. Defeats have greater consequences, generally. A win could mean qualifying for the Euros. A defeat could mean your best generation never qualifying for anything.
Fans tend to be behind the national team no matter how well they are doing and aren't as fickle as club team fans..........aaaaaaaand Saka has been racially abused.
Totally agree with the op. For me the turning point was having kids. Once you have them your priorities completely change and everything else is secondary.
Football is bizarrely more important to me now than when I was younger.
Back then even though we were a much better team I had a lot of other stuff going on outside of footy too. I played football myself, did a bit of coaching, went to music festivals in my late teens and 20's (mostly Leeds and Glastonbury) and would go out at the weekend with the lads at least once.
Now married with kids you don't get to do as much of that other stuff. A night out with the boys is a rare thing these days sadly. So football takes on a bigger importance.
I love a trip to Cardiff to the principality stadium or whatever it’s called now and like you it baffles me every time I go there just how central it is in the city. Can’t think of many other stadiums like that if any.
I think when you get older and go through actually really tough experiences you learn a game of football is just that, and even if your team loses it’s a decent day out if you go a game.
If it’s not your team that are winning like for most of us currently it certainly helps that’s it’s City instead though as I think everyone agrees it goes down as a n/a period really. Might be different if United won it every year like when I was growing up!
comment by Glazers Out (SE85) (U21241)
posted 2 minutes ago
Football is bizarrely more important to me now than when I was younger.
Back then even though we were a much better team I had a lot of other stuff going on outside of footy too. I played football myself, did a bit of coaching, went to music festivals in my late teens and 20's (mostly Leeds and Glastonbury) and would go out at the weekend with the lads at least once.
Now married with kids you don't get to do as much of that other stuff. A night out with the boys is a rare thing these days sadly. So football takes on a bigger importance.
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I understand that it is more important for you on a social level. But do the defeats hurt as much?
comment by Glazers Out (SE85) (U21241)
posted 3 minutes ago
Football is bizarrely more important to me now than when I was younger.
Back then even though we were a much better team I had a lot of other stuff going on outside of footy too. I played football myself, did a bit of coaching, went to music festivals in my late teens and 20's (mostly Leeds and Glastonbury) and would go out at the weekend with the lads at least once.
Now married with kids you don't get to do as much of that other stuff. A night out with the boys is a rare thing these days sadly. So football takes on a bigger importance.
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An interesting angle which does make sense. The fact you do less means what you do get round to doing takes on more importance. I get that.
I feel football is as important as its ever been to me.
Definitely as one grows up and matures, ones emotional reaction changes. My eldest son gets all doom and gloom if we go behind but his sage-like father has seen it all before so i have a calm about things, so never get too up or too down.
But what i do find is that in recent times when we were simply dreadful to watch and results were bad, i felt a slight void in my life because the enjoyment of watching my team has largely gone. That enjoyment has never been about winning alone because Spurs have never been flushed with success in my life time, but just the sense of enjoying watching a team play, feeling involved, having something to play for, or just achieving some amazing moments or results every once in a while keeps those fires burning, and allows you to dream a bit.
I kinda think this is what football is about for most fans, because 95% of clubs do not win stuff or dominate, so football for the majority is more about living in the moment rather than winning/dominating, and for me that has not diminished over time.
comment by Elvis (U7425)
posted 11 minutes ago
comment by Glazers Out (SE85) (U21241)
posted 2 minutes ago
Football is bizarrely more important to me now than when I was younger.
Back then even though we were a much better team I had a lot of other stuff going on outside of footy too. I played football myself, did a bit of coaching, went to music festivals in my late teens and 20's (mostly Leeds and Glastonbury) and would go out at the weekend with the lads at least once.
Now married with kids you don't get to do as much of that other stuff. A night out with the boys is a rare thing these days sadly. So football takes on a bigger importance.
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I understand that it is more important for you on a social level. But do the defeats hurt as much?
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Defeats always hurt. That will never change.
I get the point by some that we tend to lose quite a bit more these days so we get used to the feeling but personally I still hurt when we lose.
Losing at Bayern didn't hurt much as I expected it. Losing to Palace and Galatasaray definitely did though.
I will follow the boys anywhere even in league two if it ever came to it. I bleed red black and white.
Important if we are winning, not important if we are losing, I have never been to a match.
Similar sentiment to my own experience really. I got lucky to be born at the right time to enjoy the greatest period of our history. Anything can happen to my club now and I'll have those memories.
The best post I’ve ever read on 606, no question. Sums me up to the bone. After the glorious years of Keegan, Dalglish, Rushy, Robbie, followed by almost 30 years in the wilderness, with United tanking anyone who came before them - that made it far worse, unbearable at times - sadness, frustration, was the order of the day.
Now, with Jurgen in the chair for the past seven years, last year came as a shock. We were sh++++te. That was hard to take. Difficult to comprehend.
Football holds us all to different levels.
Me? cant do without it.
Football can never be just about the winning. If you're a glory hunter of any club then I feel sorry for you. Football goes way beyond just winning stuff. It's a social event and a club is a community in itself and dare I say it even a religion for some of the more hardcore fans.
Yeah I agree, between the age of 8-18 football meant so much more, luckily that's when we won everything.
I don't really care too much these day tbh, having a kid means I often miss games and when I do watch them it's more to see friends and socialise than really care about the match.
I was just lucky that when I was growing up in the 90s, United were successful, so I chose to support them.
comment by Glazers Out (SE85) (U21241)
posted 9 minutes ago
Football can never be just about the winning. If you're a glory hunter of any club then I feel sorry for you. Football goes way beyond just winning stuff. It's a social event and a club is a community in itself and dare I say it even a religion for some of the more hardcore fans.
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That is how I felt in my my teens and twenties. But not once I got into my thirties and started my family.
Here is a general model for how people go about supporting teams, when geography is less of an influence.
Gen X - Support Liverpool cos they were the most successful when they were growing up in the late 70s/80s
Millennials - Support Man Utd because they were successful in 90s and 00s
Gen-z - Support Liverpool cos their dad who chose to support Liverpool in the 80s made them support Liverpool/ New fans supporting Chelsea or City cos their dad was secretly gay and had no interest in football.
Gen Alpha - Support Man U cos millenial parents chose to support United in the 90s when growing up and now make their kids support United/Whoever is the next oil club over the next few year. Newcastle maybe? Tik Tok FC?
So if it were to be graphed, you get waves of fans for teams. 1st generation (success) and 2nd generation (inherited), sprinkled with new waves of who is successful at the time (1st generation post modernism)
This is all just on top of people who support their local team for non-success reasons.
comment by Elvis (U7425)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by Glazers Out (SE85) (U21241)
posted 9 minutes ago
Football can never be just about the winning. If you're a glory hunter of any club then I feel sorry for you. Football goes way beyond just winning stuff. It's a social event and a club is a community in itself and dare I say it even a religion for some of the more hardcore fans.
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That is how I felt in my my teens and twenties. But not once I got into my thirties and started my family.
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I think it's more prevalent in England because we understand football is cyclical here more than most other nations.
Barcelona n Real Madrid have dominated Spain basically forever. Bayern have and will continue to in Germany.
In England we've had a Liverpool, United, Chelsea and City dynasty in the last 40 years alone and obviously Arsenal deserve a mention too as they won a fair few off us too under Fergie.
I think Olympiakos in Greece have won something like 25 league titles in the last 28 years or something ridiculous like that. Who the hell wants to see that?
Of course it's not just all about winning. I need to clarify that. Some of my happiest memories are of attending my first games in 1987. We weren't that good then but had players who always gave 100% on the pitch.
comment by Diafol Coch 77 🏴 (U2462)
posted 1 hour, 3 minutes ago
comment by Insufferable-Piffle (U4388)
posted 17 seconds ago
comment by Irishred (U2539)
posted 6 minutes ago
Have I got this wrong? Is football still as important to you now as it was during your younger days?
Not even remotely. When I was younger a loss would bother me a lot. Now 20 minutes after the final whistle in a loss I couldn’t give a fook unless of course it’s the mighty ROI
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Nail on the head for meafter a loss I would be in a huff for days and avoided mates and phone calls, now it's "aw fck it!" and move on
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Just imagine if social media was around when you were really bothered. I'd have hated that. Whatsapp going off every two minutes!
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Indeed all I had to do was ignore the house phone or dckhead mates in the pub
comment by Diafol Coch 77 🏴 (U2462)
posted 1 minute ago
Of course it's not just all about winning. I need to clarify that. Some of my happiest memories are of attending my first games in 1987. We weren't that good then but had players who always gave 100% on the pitch.
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What made you support United? Does it fall under one of the following?
1. Inherited
2. Success
3. Geography
4.Other, please specify
Interested to know if it falls under other as good to add to my research.
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posted on 6/10/23
Have I got this wrong? Is football still as important to you now as it was during your younger days?
Not even remotely. When I was younger a loss would bother me a lot. Now 20 minutes after the final whistle in a loss I couldn’t give a fook unless of course it’s the mighty ROI
posted on 6/10/23
comment by Irishred (U2539)
posted 3 minutes ago
Have I got this wrong? Is football still as important to you now as it was during your younger days?
Not even remotely. When I was younger a loss would bother me a lot. Now 20 minutes after the final whistle in a loss I couldn’t give a fook unless of course it’s the mighty ROI
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Same. As a kid I would be attached to the radio listening to United games, I even had the Manchester Evening News stocked in my local newspaper in Bournemouth so I could read Manchester related news and every year for my birthday I’d beg my granddad to take me to United games so it was an obsession as a kid.
I guess to still be on this forum after all these years the obsession is still there to an extent but as a kid when we lost it would be like I lost and obviously when you become an adult you kinda grow out of that unless you’re Mark Goldbridge
posted on 6/10/23
comment by Irishred (U2539)
posted 6 minutes ago
Have I got this wrong? Is football still as important to you now as it was during your younger days?
Not even remotely. When I was younger a loss would bother me a lot. Now 20 minutes after the final whistle in a loss I couldn’t give a fook unless of course it’s the mighty ROI
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You'd have thought with our national teams we'd be used to losing! The funny parallel with United is that just as United have gone bad my country has done pretty well. Perhaps that is changing again now though with us not looking like we'll qualify for next year's Euros. Which is typical as it's in the perfect place for it!
posted on 6/10/23
comment by Irishred (U2539)
posted 6 minutes ago
Have I got this wrong? Is football still as important to you now as it was during your younger days?
Not even remotely. When I was younger a loss would bother me a lot. Now 20 minutes after the final whistle in a loss I couldn’t give a fook unless of course it’s the mighty ROI
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Nail on the head for me after a loss I would be in a huff for days and avoided mates and phone calls, now it's "aw fck it!" and move on
posted on 6/10/23
comment by Insufferable-Piffle (U4388)
posted 17 seconds ago
comment by Irishred (U2539)
posted 6 minutes ago
Have I got this wrong? Is football still as important to you now as it was during your younger days?
Not even remotely. When I was younger a loss would bother me a lot. Now 20 minutes after the final whistle in a loss I couldn’t give a fook unless of course it’s the mighty ROI
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Nail on the head for meafter a loss I would be in a huff for days and avoided mates and phone calls, now it's "aw fck it!" and move on
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Just imagine if social media was around when you were really bothered. I'd have hated that. Whatsapp going off every two minutes!
posted on 6/10/23
comment by Irishred (U2539)
posted 5 minutes ago
Have I got this wrong? Is football still as important to you now as it was during your younger days?
Not even remotely. When I was younger a loss would bother me a lot. Now 20 minutes after the final whistle in a loss I couldn’t give a fook unless of course it’s the mighty ROI
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International football is still relatively pure. You have more or less the same guys year in year out playing for the team. Matches are far less frequent but generally have a lot more riding on them. Defeats have greater consequences, generally. A win could mean qualifying for the Euros. A defeat could mean your best generation never qualifying for anything.
Fans tend to be behind the national team no matter how well they are doing and aren't as fickle as club team fans..........aaaaaaaand Saka has been racially abused.
posted on 6/10/23
Totally agree with the op. For me the turning point was having kids. Once you have them your priorities completely change and everything else is secondary.
posted on 6/10/23
Football is bizarrely more important to me now than when I was younger.
Back then even though we were a much better team I had a lot of other stuff going on outside of footy too. I played football myself, did a bit of coaching, went to music festivals in my late teens and 20's (mostly Leeds and Glastonbury) and would go out at the weekend with the lads at least once.
Now married with kids you don't get to do as much of that other stuff. A night out with the boys is a rare thing these days sadly. So football takes on a bigger importance.
posted on 6/10/23
I love a trip to Cardiff to the principality stadium or whatever it’s called now and like you it baffles me every time I go there just how central it is in the city. Can’t think of many other stadiums like that if any.
I think when you get older and go through actually really tough experiences you learn a game of football is just that, and even if your team loses it’s a decent day out if you go a game.
If it’s not your team that are winning like for most of us currently it certainly helps that’s it’s City instead though as I think everyone agrees it goes down as a n/a period really. Might be different if United won it every year like when I was growing up!
posted on 6/10/23
comment by Glazers Out (SE85) (U21241)
posted 2 minutes ago
Football is bizarrely more important to me now than when I was younger.
Back then even though we were a much better team I had a lot of other stuff going on outside of footy too. I played football myself, did a bit of coaching, went to music festivals in my late teens and 20's (mostly Leeds and Glastonbury) and would go out at the weekend with the lads at least once.
Now married with kids you don't get to do as much of that other stuff. A night out with the boys is a rare thing these days sadly. So football takes on a bigger importance.
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I understand that it is more important for you on a social level. But do the defeats hurt as much?
posted on 6/10/23
comment by Glazers Out (SE85) (U21241)
posted 3 minutes ago
Football is bizarrely more important to me now than when I was younger.
Back then even though we were a much better team I had a lot of other stuff going on outside of footy too. I played football myself, did a bit of coaching, went to music festivals in my late teens and 20's (mostly Leeds and Glastonbury) and would go out at the weekend with the lads at least once.
Now married with kids you don't get to do as much of that other stuff. A night out with the boys is a rare thing these days sadly. So football takes on a bigger importance.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
An interesting angle which does make sense. The fact you do less means what you do get round to doing takes on more importance. I get that.
posted on 6/10/23
I feel football is as important as its ever been to me.
Definitely as one grows up and matures, ones emotional reaction changes. My eldest son gets all doom and gloom if we go behind but his sage-like father has seen it all before so i have a calm about things, so never get too up or too down.
But what i do find is that in recent times when we were simply dreadful to watch and results were bad, i felt a slight void in my life because the enjoyment of watching my team has largely gone. That enjoyment has never been about winning alone because Spurs have never been flushed with success in my life time, but just the sense of enjoying watching a team play, feeling involved, having something to play for, or just achieving some amazing moments or results every once in a while keeps those fires burning, and allows you to dream a bit.
I kinda think this is what football is about for most fans, because 95% of clubs do not win stuff or dominate, so football for the majority is more about living in the moment rather than winning/dominating, and for me that has not diminished over time.
posted on 6/10/23
comment by Elvis (U7425)
posted 11 minutes ago
comment by Glazers Out (SE85) (U21241)
posted 2 minutes ago
Football is bizarrely more important to me now than when I was younger.
Back then even though we were a much better team I had a lot of other stuff going on outside of footy too. I played football myself, did a bit of coaching, went to music festivals in my late teens and 20's (mostly Leeds and Glastonbury) and would go out at the weekend with the lads at least once.
Now married with kids you don't get to do as much of that other stuff. A night out with the boys is a rare thing these days sadly. So football takes on a bigger importance.
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I understand that it is more important for you on a social level. But do the defeats hurt as much?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Defeats always hurt. That will never change.
I get the point by some that we tend to lose quite a bit more these days so we get used to the feeling but personally I still hurt when we lose.
Losing at Bayern didn't hurt much as I expected it. Losing to Palace and Galatasaray definitely did though.
I will follow the boys anywhere even in league two if it ever came to it. I bleed red black and white.
posted on 6/10/23
Important if we are winning, not important if we are losing, I have never been to a match.
posted on 6/10/23
Similar sentiment to my own experience really. I got lucky to be born at the right time to enjoy the greatest period of our history. Anything can happen to my club now and I'll have those memories.
posted on 6/10/23
The best post I’ve ever read on 606, no question. Sums me up to the bone. After the glorious years of Keegan, Dalglish, Rushy, Robbie, followed by almost 30 years in the wilderness, with United tanking anyone who came before them - that made it far worse, unbearable at times - sadness, frustration, was the order of the day.
Now, with Jurgen in the chair for the past seven years, last year came as a shock. We were sh++++te. That was hard to take. Difficult to comprehend.
Football holds us all to different levels.
Me? cant do without it.
posted on 6/10/23
Football can never be just about the winning. If you're a glory hunter of any club then I feel sorry for you. Football goes way beyond just winning stuff. It's a social event and a club is a community in itself and dare I say it even a religion for some of the more hardcore fans.
posted on 6/10/23
Yeah I agree, between the age of 8-18 football meant so much more, luckily that's when we won everything.
I don't really care too much these day tbh, having a kid means I often miss games and when I do watch them it's more to see friends and socialise than really care about the match.
posted on 6/10/23
I was just lucky that when I was growing up in the 90s, United were successful, so I chose to support them.
posted on 6/10/23
comment by Glazers Out (SE85) (U21241)
posted 9 minutes ago
Football can never be just about the winning. If you're a glory hunter of any club then I feel sorry for you. Football goes way beyond just winning stuff. It's a social event and a club is a community in itself and dare I say it even a religion for some of the more hardcore fans.
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That is how I felt in my my teens and twenties. But not once I got into my thirties and started my family.
posted on 6/10/23
Here is a general model for how people go about supporting teams, when geography is less of an influence.
Gen X - Support Liverpool cos they were the most successful when they were growing up in the late 70s/80s
Millennials - Support Man Utd because they were successful in 90s and 00s
Gen-z - Support Liverpool cos their dad who chose to support Liverpool in the 80s made them support Liverpool/ New fans supporting Chelsea or City cos their dad was secretly gay and had no interest in football.
Gen Alpha - Support Man U cos millenial parents chose to support United in the 90s when growing up and now make their kids support United/Whoever is the next oil club over the next few year. Newcastle maybe? Tik Tok FC?
So if it were to be graphed, you get waves of fans for teams. 1st generation (success) and 2nd generation (inherited), sprinkled with new waves of who is successful at the time (1st generation post modernism)
This is all just on top of people who support their local team for non-success reasons.
posted on 6/10/23
comment by Elvis (U7425)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by Glazers Out (SE85) (U21241)
posted 9 minutes ago
Football can never be just about the winning. If you're a glory hunter of any club then I feel sorry for you. Football goes way beyond just winning stuff. It's a social event and a club is a community in itself and dare I say it even a religion for some of the more hardcore fans.
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That is how I felt in my my teens and twenties. But not once I got into my thirties and started my family.
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I think it's more prevalent in England because we understand football is cyclical here more than most other nations.
Barcelona n Real Madrid have dominated Spain basically forever. Bayern have and will continue to in Germany.
In England we've had a Liverpool, United, Chelsea and City dynasty in the last 40 years alone and obviously Arsenal deserve a mention too as they won a fair few off us too under Fergie.
I think Olympiakos in Greece have won something like 25 league titles in the last 28 years or something ridiculous like that. Who the hell wants to see that?
posted on 6/10/23
Of course it's not just all about winning. I need to clarify that. Some of my happiest memories are of attending my first games in 1987. We weren't that good then but had players who always gave 100% on the pitch.
posted on 6/10/23
comment by Diafol Coch 77 🏴 (U2462)
posted 1 hour, 3 minutes ago
comment by Insufferable-Piffle (U4388)
posted 17 seconds ago
comment by Irishred (U2539)
posted 6 minutes ago
Have I got this wrong? Is football still as important to you now as it was during your younger days?
Not even remotely. When I was younger a loss would bother me a lot. Now 20 minutes after the final whistle in a loss I couldn’t give a fook unless of course it’s the mighty ROI
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Nail on the head for meafter a loss I would be in a huff for days and avoided mates and phone calls, now it's "aw fck it!" and move on
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Just imagine if social media was around when you were really bothered. I'd have hated that. Whatsapp going off every two minutes!
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Indeed all I had to do was ignore the house phone or dckhead mates in the pub
posted on 6/10/23
comment by Diafol Coch 77 🏴 (U2462)
posted 1 minute ago
Of course it's not just all about winning. I need to clarify that. Some of my happiest memories are of attending my first games in 1987. We weren't that good then but had players who always gave 100% on the pitch.
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What made you support United? Does it fall under one of the following?
1. Inherited
2. Success
3. Geography
4.Other, please specify
Interested to know if it falls under other as good to add to my research.
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