Bissouma last year might just be the most disappointed I have ever been in a player, we knew he was top quality but he couldn’t produce for us at all. Now we’re seeing the real Bissouma, the £25m absolute steal of a player.

Can’t wait until we can slot Bentancur alongside him

All good and the joy Celtic had for 2 years. However, man mark the pivots Biss mainly & Madds and it can be very effective in combating the system.

comment by Silver (U6112)
posted 9 minutes ago
All good and the joy Celtic had for 2 years. However, man mark the pivots Biss mainly & Madds and it can be very effective in combating the system.
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That’s when we throw Bentancur in who was our second best player the year before, can’t wait until he is back

comment by Silver (U6112)
posted 8 minutes ago
All good and the joy Celtic had for 2 years. However, man mark the pivots Biss mainly & Madds and it can be very effective in combating the system.
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Don't think anyone has done that yet and even if they tried, good luck. Both are intelligent players capable of beating a press or tight marking.

Yeah, a huge part of why Bissouma and Maddison are working so well is because they're so press-resistant. Bissouma is ridiculously good compared to most DMs.

Course that's also one of Bentancur's biggest strengths, so assuming he gets back near his former level, that's gonna be an absolute monster of a midfield

comment by Silver (U6112)
posted 14 minutes ago
All good and the joy Celtic had for 2 years. However, man mark the pivots Biss mainly & Madds and it can be very effective in combating the system.
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very short list of midfielders playing now who I would be more confident in dealing with being man marked than Bissouma. If anything he prefers receiving with a man on his back so he can spin him and take him out of the game

comment by Christoglou (U20930)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Silver (U6112)
posted 14 minutes ago
All good and the joy Celtic had for 2 years. However, man mark the pivots Biss mainly & Madds and it can be very effective in combating the system.
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very short list of midfielders playing now who I would be more confident in dealing with being man marked than Bissouma. If anything he prefers receiving with a man on his back so he can spin him and take him out of the game
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Biss and Madds are also inteligent enough to drag those man markers out of danger areas with them and leave spaces in the centre, thius allows the inverted wingbacks to step in and take up the mantle

comment by Silver (U6112)
posted 30 minutes ago
All good and the joy Celtic had for 2 years. However, man mark the pivots Biss mainly & Madds and it can be very effective in combating the system.
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If it were that easy mate it would have been done by now.

As others said, both players resist the press well and we have many other threats on the pitch to feed the ball to.

The other thing i'd say is that most "inferior" teams would probably look to sit deep to frustrate us, rather than being drawn on to us deep in our half.

Where as most teams of similar quality would probably not employ a man marker.

I dont see man marking as a thing that's really employed effectively.

Pool pressed and shut them off well i would say

Bissouma started showing signs when Mason took over last season. He might have needed time to settle anyway but his biggest hurdle was always the style of football and tactics.

comment by Phenomenonecoglou (U20037)
posted 26 minutes ago
Pool pressed and shut them off well i would say
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And it still wasn’t enough to stop us

The Bissouma situation for me just shows what a fraud Conte is. Imagine having a player that good and not being able to utilise him because of your tactical inflexibility and playing a hatchet man like PEH instead.

comment by Sir Henry Percy (U23089)
posted 1 hour, 24 minutes ago
comment by Christoglou (U20930)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Silver (U6112)
posted 14 minutes ago
All good and the joy Celtic had for 2 years. However, man mark the pivots Biss mainly & Madds and it can be very effective in combating the system.
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very short list of midfielders playing now who I would be more confident in dealing with being man marked than Bissouma. If anything he prefers receiving with a man on his back so he can spin him and take him out of the game
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Biss and Madds are also inteligent enough to drag those man markers out of danger areas with them and leave spaces in the centre, thius allows the inverted wingbacks to step in and take up the mantle
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y'all don't need to take it as a sleight! The teams most successful against Ange at Celtic played a man marker on our pivot - usually in conjunction with a general press. In fact the teams I saw do it best put the marker in front of the pivot. Enough to knock the system out of kilter and yes, I was amazed more teams didn't watch and learn but then managers are often arrogant about what they believe will work. Wait and see - someone will do it well - no need to take offence.

comment by Silver (U6112)
posted 18 minutes ago
comment by Sir Henry Percy (U23089)
posted 1 hour, 24 minutes ago
comment by Christoglou (U20930)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Silver (U6112)
posted 14 minutes ago
All good and the joy Celtic had for 2 years. However, man mark the pivots Biss mainly & Madds and it can be very effective in combating the system.
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very short list of midfielders playing now who I would be more confident in dealing with being man marked than Bissouma. If anything he prefers receiving with a man on his back so he can spin him and take him out of the game
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Biss and Madds are also inteligent enough to drag those man markers out of danger areas with them and leave spaces in the centre, thius allows the inverted wingbacks to step in and take up the mantle
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y'all don't need to take it as a sleight! The teams most successful against Ange at Celtic played a man marker on our pivot - usually in conjunction with a general press. In fact the teams I saw do it best put the marker in front of the pivot. Enough to knock the system out of kilter and yes, I was amazed more teams didn't watch and learn but then managers are often arrogant about what they believe will work. Wait and see - someone will do it well - no need to take offence.
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Our pivot is better than your pivot 😛

comment by ChArliE Big Bananas (U14461)
posted 3 minutes ago
The Bissouma situation for me just shows what a fraud Conte is. Imagine having a player that good and not being able to utilise him because of your tactical inflexibility and playing a hatchet man like PEH instead.
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Well that was my initial reaction but then I saw a program about Conte and it was clearly mentioned that Conte nor JM do player coaching and they need end product players who are seasones and ready.. Neither of them can coach players. None of the unfinished players we have were coached in anyway.

comment by He who Dares, waits for Trophies (U15748)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by ChArliE Big Bananas (U14461)
posted 3 minutes ago
The Bissouma situation for me just shows what a fraud Conte is. Imagine having a player that good and not being able to utilise him because of your tactical inflexibility and playing a hatchet man like PEH instead.
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Well that was my initial reaction but then I saw a program about Conte and it was clearly mentioned that Conte nor JM do player coaching and they need end product players who are seasones and ready.. Neither of them can coach players. None of the unfinished players we have were coached in anyway.
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Also let’s not forget that Bentancur was playing fantastically well under Conte - what if Bentancur doesn’t fit Big Ange’s system, will that automatically make him a fraud?

comment by ChArliE Big Bananas (U14461)
posted 1 hour, 9 minutes ago
The Bissouma situation for me just shows what a fraud Conte is. Imagine having a player that good and not being able to utilise him because of your tactical inflexibility and playing a hatchet man like PEH instead.
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To be fair he was injured or recovering for 4 months

comment by Striketeam7 - There used to be a football club over there (U18109)
posted 26 minutes ago
comment by He who Dares, waits for Trophies (U15748)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by ChArliE Big Bananas (U14461)
posted 3 minutes ago
The Bissouma situation for me just shows what a fraud Conte is. Imagine having a player that good and not being able to utilise him because of your tactical inflexibility and playing a hatchet man like PEH instead.
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Well that was my initial reaction but then I saw a program about Conte and it was clearly mentioned that Conte nor JM do player coaching and they need end product players who are seasones and ready.. Neither of them can coach players. None of the unfinished players we have were coached in anyway.
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Also let’s not forget that Bentancur was playing fantastically well under Conte - what if Bentancur doesn’t fit Big Ange’s system, will that automatically make him a fraud?
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Got a feeling if Bents recovers physically that he might be even better under Ange.

The thing about Bentancur, if fit, is that i think he can play Bissouma's role, Sarr's role or Maddison's role if he had to.

He is a classy ball player, with vision and incisive passing. Not physically what Bissouma is but able to retain possession and resist the press.

I think he will sit seemlessly in an Ange team. He's Uruguayan, not afraid to tackle, hustle or press.

So long as his knee doesnt hold him back he will be a huge asset.

The Bissouma situation for me just shows what a fraud Conte is. Imagine having a player that good and not being able to utilise him because of your tactical inflexibility and playing a hatchet man like PEH instead.
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and I screamed against that fraud for most of the season thank god he is gone

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tKydpb0z6i0

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