9 VAR checks and 5 disallowed goals.

Quite absurd.

Honestly don't get all the criticism for going for it. Yeah you could've stuck everyone behind the ball and hoped for a miracle just to get one point from the game but it was well worth trying to get all 3 before sitting back imo.

Obviously we can't say for certain that you would have sat back if a goal up but I believe you would have.

Injuries are now a massive concern for Spurs though, this will be massive test for the manager depending on who is out.

comment by Two Balls, One Saka (U19684)
posted 2 hours, 35 minutes ago
Honestly don't get all the criticism for going for it. Yeah you could've stuck everyone behind the ball and hoped for a miracle just to get one point from the game but it was well worth trying to get all 3 before sitting back imo.

Obviously we can't say for certain that you would have sat back if a goal up but I believe you would have.

Injuries are now a massive concern for Spurs though, this will be massive test for the manager depending on who is out.
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I agree the VDV injury in particular looks long term.

comment by Pedro Poridge at the love Parade (U6468)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by Two Balls, One Saka (U19684)
posted 2 hours, 35 minutes ago
Honestly don't get all the criticism for going for it. Yeah you could've stuck everyone behind the ball and hoped for a miracle just to get one point from the game but it was well worth trying to get all 3 before sitting back imo.

Obviously we can't say for certain that you would have sat back if a goal up but I believe you would have.

Injuries are now a massive concern for Spurs though, this will be massive test for the manager depending on who is out.
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I agree the VDV injury in particular looks long term.
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How do we know it’s long term?

I think you could have won it with 10. Chelsea were abject, and even struggled against 9. I think AP got it wrong, but by jingo it was fun to watch.

comment by Automatic For The People (U21889)
posted 16 minutes ago
comment by Pedro Poridge at the love Parade (U6468)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by Two Balls, One Saka (U19684)
posted 2 hours, 35 minutes ago
Honestly don't get all the criticism for going for it. Yeah you could've stuck everyone behind the ball and hoped for a miracle just to get one point from the game but it was well worth trying to get all 3 before sitting back imo.

Obviously we can't say for certain that you would have sat back if a goal up but I believe you would have.

Injuries are now a massive concern for Spurs though, this will be massive test for the manager depending on who is out.
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I agree the VDV injury in particular looks long term.
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How do we know it’s long term?
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Looked like a hamstring tear. Hopefully not as bad as it looked

comment by Pedro Poridge at the love Parade (U6468)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Automatic For The People (U21889)
posted 16 minutes ago
comment by Pedro Poridge at the love Parade (U6468)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by Two Balls, One Saka (U19684)
posted 2 hours, 35 minutes ago
Honestly don't get all the criticism for going for it. Yeah you could've stuck everyone behind the ball and hoped for a miracle just to get one point from the game but it was well worth trying to get all 3 before sitting back imo.

Obviously we can't say for certain that you would have sat back if a goal up but I believe you would have.

Injuries are now a massive concern for Spurs though, this will be massive test for the manager depending on who is out.
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I agree the VDV injury in particular looks long term.
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How do we know it’s long term?
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Looked like a hamstring tear. Hopefully not as bad as it looked
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The way he pulled up I fear the worst.

comment by junction8 (U1074)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Pedro Poridge at the love Parade (U6468)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Automatic For The People (U21889)
posted 16 minutes ago
comment by Pedro Poridge at the love Parade (U6468)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by Two Balls, One Saka (U19684)
posted 2 hours, 35 minutes ago
Honestly don't get all the criticism for going for it. Yeah you could've stuck everyone behind the ball and hoped for a miracle just to get one point from the game but it was well worth trying to get all 3 before sitting back imo.

Obviously we can't say for certain that you would have sat back if a goal up but I believe you would have.

Injuries are now a massive concern for Spurs though, this will be massive test for the manager depending on who is out.
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I agree the VDV injury in particular looks long term.
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How do we know it’s long term?
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Looked like a hamstring tear. Hopefully not as bad as it looked
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The way he pulled up I fear the worst.
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Amputation

I love it. Would rather lose going for it than draw camping in our box.

We'd have lost more comfortably playing conteball win 9 men. Instead we actually still created a fair bit and almost equalised before the third.

10 times out of 10, you lose playing like that with 9 men. To dare is to lose.

comment by Don’s Dinner (U11802)
posted 1 minute ago
10 times out of 10, you lose playing like that with 9 men. To dare is to lose.
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You lose playing with 9 men anyway.

Besides have you forgotten the last 5 years already?

Full credit to Spurs for giving it a go.
As said, cant recall any team winning with 9 men so you had nothing to lose.

You gave it a go and just fell short.

I like Ange. What was refreshing was his refusal to criticise the decisions - they were right - but that doesn't usually stop managers. He was brave and almost exploited Chelsea's fragile confidence with 9 men. He is a swashbuckling manager who likes open high-octane football and knows that his teams will sometimes cross the line and accepts the consequences. The word refreshing has been used too many times over the years, but he really is refreshing and a class act. Long may it continue.

comment by Eric_Draven (U20260)
posted 7 seconds ago
I like Ange. What was refreshing was his refusal to criticise the decisions - they were right - but that doesn't usually stop managers. He was brave and almost exploited Chelsea's fragile confidence with 9 men. He is a swashbuckling manager who likes open high-octane football and knows that his teams will sometimes cross the line and accepts the consequences. The word refreshing has been used too many times over the years, but he really is refreshing and a class act. Long may it continue.
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Apart from the stadium exploding and Daniel levy declaring he will never ever leave spurs, it’s hard to see how that could have gone worse

Unless I’m missing something it’s the worst managerial perfomance I can remember. Awful tactics all round. Should have taken udogie off. And should have sat deeper with 10 men. Ridiculously naive

comment by Nickasaurus (U9257)
posted 6 minutes ago
Unless I’m missing something it’s the worst managerial perfomance I can remember. Awful tactics all round. Should have taken udogie off. And should have sat deeper with 10 men. Ridiculously naive
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Have to agree with that.

comment by Nickasaurus (U9257)
posted 18 minutes ago
Unless I’m missing something
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95% of your brain cells.

Any other side and I think going for it would be fair as you'd probably lose anyway, but Chelsea are literally known to struggle to score against teams that defend and lack confidence in front of goal.

The high line gifted them so many chances and they were always going to score 1 of them.

comment by The Welsh Xavi (U15412)
posted 1 minute ago
Any other side and I think going for it would be fair as you'd probably lose anyway, but Chelsea are literally known to struggle to score against teams that defend and lack confidence in front of goal.

The high line gifted them so many chances and they were always going to score 1 of them.
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I think this is very important. You could see even before the red cards, Chelsea play very well through the midfield but go to peices in front of goal, we have no confidence. And having goals disallowed would have further eroded that confidence. Jackson was constantly offside and there was a time it seemed that Ange got the tactics spot on and the pressure was getting to Chelsea despite being in control of the game and we were making silly challenges which gave Spurs free kicks which troubled us no end. Spurs are second in the league and have a manager who wants to go for it, this should never be criticised.

comment by Nickasaurus (U9257)
posted 31 minutes ago
Unless I’m missing something it’s the worst managerial perfomance I can remember. Awful tactics all round. Should have taken udogie off. And should have sat deeper with 10 men. Ridiculously naive
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You have a point tbf.

comment by The Welsh Xavi (U15412)
posted 31 minutes ago
Any other side and I think going for it would be fair as you'd probably lose anyway, but Chelsea are literally known to struggle to score against teams that defend and lack confidence in front of goal.

The high line gifted them so many chances and they were always going to score 1 of them.
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Yep. It essentially let chelsea back into the game. Sterling was getting in time and again 11 v 11.
We then scored two 11 v 11.
Spurs lost their heads for no reason.
They then persisted with the high line.
Couldn't believe what I was seeing.
VDV got injured because of it.

comment by Nickasaurus (U9257)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by The Welsh Xavi (U15412)
posted 31 minutes ago
Any other side and I think going for it would be fair as you'd probably lose anyway, but Chelsea are literally known to struggle to score against teams that defend and lack confidence in front of goal.

The high line gifted them so many chances and they were always going to score 1 of them.
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Yep. It essentially let chelsea back into the game. Sterling was getting in time and again 11 v 11.
We then scored two 11 v 11.
Spurs lost their heads for no reason.
They then persisted with the high line.
Couldn't believe what I was seeing.
VDV got injured because of it.
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What a bizarre take.

you dont agree with it = bizarre take? cmon sizzle

It's all very well saying Spurs should've dropped deep and played defensively but I honestly doubt Ange has ever done any work on that sort of system in training. You can say "he should have a plan B", which is fair enough, but losing two defenders to red cards and two integral players to injury is the sort of scenario you simply can't plan for. That wouldn't be plan B, that would be plan X Y or Z, and I don't think any manager has a go-to system for when that many things go against them