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posted on 10/11/23

comment by CurrentlyInPoland (U11181)
posted 11 minutes ago
comment by Sat Nav (U18243)
posted 54 minutes ago
comment by N2 (U22280)
posted 7 hours, 42 minutes ago
comment by N2 (U22280)
posted 2 hours, 23 minutes ago
comment by Sat Nav (U18243)
posted 30 minutes ago
comment by CurrentlyInPoland (U11181)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by N2 (U22280)
posted 7 seconds ago
comment by Sat Nav (U18243)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by N2 (U22280)
posted 15 minutes ago
comment by U12215 (U22987)
posted 29 minutes ago
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12731599/I-need-clued-Students-quizzed-pro-Palestine-protest-reveal-little-know-Israel-Hamas-conflict-dont-know-terror-group-launched-bloody-slaughter-October-7-insist-killers-freedom-fighters.html


‘Hamas are freedom fighters’

‘Hamas didn’t attack Israelis’

‘Hamas aren’t terrorists’

Typical wokies, outraged, but little idea why. Police need to have a word with a couple of them.


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I suppose you disagree with this ex-marine then?

https://youtu.be/uaO2m9hpBLI?si=UWjSahyFyjh6DNVm
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I doubt anyone does.

But I highly doubt that he would deliberately go into unarmed civilian homes and murder them, kidnap, parade a naked body around celebrating, spit on them and then cut off their head.
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The zionists have done similar things, and this is the point — to stop normalising it.
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The Zionists have been doing this daily for years in the West Bank. Everyone seems to be silent about that. I guess when the Israelis do it, it's fine and Palestinians have no right to defend themselves. Hamas does it, oh it's wrong and Israel has a right to defend itself. The hypocrisy would be a joke if it wasn't thousands of people dying.
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Would either of you mind pointing to a date / year when this kind of filth happened so I can look it up please?
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He said this happens yearly in the West Bank.
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Israelis kidnapping schoolgirls

https://youtube.com/shorts/CdzxfYBWWV4?si=00HdF6TWwVcKElQl
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That’s very distressing. I assume that you’re not trying to equate what I described that happened on 7 October with that video though? Because it’s nowhere close,
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https://www.vox.com/world-politics/2023/11/9/23945651/west-bank-israeli-settler-palestine-gaza-war-violence

On October 6th Settlers attacked a funeral and two Palestinians where shot and killed by the IDF for defending themselves.
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2023/10/12/palestinian-man-son-attending-funeral-procession-in-west-bank-shot-dead
The taking of prisoners by IDF who are held without charge is akin to takin hostages. They also take family members of suspected miletants or those suspected of stone throwing. If Hamas did the same, it would be called taking hostages. IDF do the same.
IDF snipers shooting pregnant women
https://www.irishtimes.com/news/israeli-soldiers-shoot-pregnant-woman-1.414694
And these are not one off things.
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/israeli-t-shirts-joke-about-killing-arabs/
And while the IDF condmens them on voice, there is no action taken against soldiers who carry out such acts.
https://twitter.com/chrissaccoccia1/status/1722542095049646151
In fact we see they say one thing when there is an international outcry yet say another when they're actually instructing their soldiers.
The stopping and abducting of Palestinian kids is another.
https://comrademorlock.medium.com/rape-and-the-israel-defense-forces-559deb90b585
Interesting article of where they stand on R.
And humiliating Palestinians is part and parcel of the IDF and Israeli occupation
https://jordantimes.com/opinion/ramzy-baroud/untold-story-abuse-palestinian-women-hebron

If one only Condmens Hamas but doesn't the Israeli regime then they are nothing but a hypocrite. Both are bad. I'd say the Israeli regime are worse because, and has been shown before by another poster, Hamas have almost always kept a ceasefire where as Israel has been the one who has constantly broken one. While Hams has its charter, Israeli politicians have said pretty much the same or worse about Palestinians. Yet one is always brought up and the other ignored. It was afterall, an Israeli minister who spoke about nuking Gaza (and he was fired for that, more for officially saying that they do have nukes rather than leaving it ambiguous - even though is it is a well known secret).


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But is it close? That is the question.

posted on 10/11/23

comment by Sat Nav (U18243)
posted 26 minutes ago
comment by CurrentlyInPoland (U11181)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Sat Nav (U18243)
posted 54 minutes ago
comment by N2 (U22280)
posted 7 hours, 42 minutes ago
comment by N2 (U22280)
posted 2 hours, 23 minutes ago
comment by Sat Nav (U18243)
posted 30 minutes ago
comment by CurrentlyInPoland (U11181)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by N2 (U22280)
posted 7 seconds ago
comment by Sat Nav (U18243)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by N2 (U22280)
posted 15 minutes ago
comment by U12215 (U22987)
posted 29 minutes ago
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12731599/I-need-clued-Students-quizzed-pro-Palestine-protest-reveal-little-know-Israel-Hamas-conflict-dont-know-terror-group-launched-bloody-slaughter-October-7-insist-killers-freedom-fighters.html


‘Hamas are freedom fighters’

‘Hamas didn’t attack Israelis’

‘Hamas aren’t terrorists’

Typical wokies, outraged, but little idea why. Police need to have a word with a couple of them.


----------------------------------------------------------------------
I suppose you disagree with this ex-marine then?

https://youtu.be/uaO2m9hpBLI?si=UWjSahyFyjh6DNVm
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I doubt anyone does.

But I highly doubt that he would deliberately go into unarmed civilian homes and murder them, kidnap, parade a naked body around celebrating, spit on them and then cut off their head.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
The zionists have done similar things, and this is the point — to stop normalising it.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
The Zionists have been doing this daily for years in the West Bank. Everyone seems to be silent about that. I guess when the Israelis do it, it's fine and Palestinians have no right to defend themselves. Hamas does it, oh it's wrong and Israel has a right to defend itself. The hypocrisy would be a joke if it wasn't thousands of people dying.
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Would either of you mind pointing to a date / year when this kind of filth happened so I can look it up please?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
He said this happens yearly in the West Bank.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Israelis kidnapping schoolgirls

https://youtube.com/shorts/CdzxfYBWWV4?si=00HdF6TWwVcKElQl
----------------------------------------------------------------------
That’s very distressing. I assume that you’re not trying to equate what I described that happened on 7 October with that video though? Because it’s nowhere close,
----------------------------------------------------------------------
https://www.vox.com/world-politics/2023/11/9/23945651/west-bank-israeli-settler-palestine-gaza-war-violence

On October 6th Settlers attacked a funeral and two Palestinians where shot and killed by the IDF for defending themselves.
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2023/10/12/palestinian-man-son-attending-funeral-procession-in-west-bank-shot-dead
The taking of prisoners by IDF who are held without charge is akin to takin hostages. They also take family members of suspected miletants or those suspected of stone throwing. If Hamas did the same, it would be called taking hostages. IDF do the same.
IDF snipers shooting pregnant women
https://www.irishtimes.com/news/israeli-soldiers-shoot-pregnant-woman-1.414694
And these are not one off things.
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/israeli-t-shirts-joke-about-killing-arabs/
And while the IDF condmens them on voice, there is no action taken against soldiers who carry out such acts.
https://twitter.com/chrissaccoccia1/status/1722542095049646151
In fact we see they say one thing when there is an international outcry yet say another when they're actually instructing their soldiers.
The stopping and abducting of Palestinian kids is another.
https://comrademorlock.medium.com/rape-and-the-israel-defense-forces-559deb90b585
Interesting article of where they stand on R.
And humiliating Palestinians is part and parcel of the IDF and Israeli occupation
https://jordantimes.com/opinion/ramzy-baroud/untold-story-abuse-palestinian-women-hebron

If one only Condmens Hamas but doesn't the Israeli regime then they are nothing but a hypocrite. Both are bad. I'd say the Israeli regime are worse because, and has been shown before by another poster, Hamas have almost always kept a ceasefire where as Israel has been the one who has constantly broken one. While Hams has its charter, Israeli politicians have said pretty much the same or worse about Palestinians. Yet one is always brought up and the other ignored. It was afterall, an Israeli minister who spoke about nuking Gaza (and he was fired for that, more for officially saying that they do have nukes rather than leaving it ambiguous - even though is it is a well known secret).


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Thank you for the multiple links, will read them in a couple of hours 👍🏻
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These are just quick searches. There are a few other articles that I have but not here with my phone at work.

It's quite telling that when a guy who looked into the massacres and other things that took place in 1948, he has his reputation ruined and forced into saying he lied despite the recordings he had. The trial set up was a sham and the judge didn't even bother to listen to the recordings. Even what Israel decides to release or admit to depends on how the state would be viewed and why the term Nakba and the commemoration of it is banned in Israel and I'm recent years in occupied Palestinian land it can get the Palestinians in trouble.

posted on 10/11/23

comment by Kobbie The King Mainoo (U10026)
posted 3 hours, 34 minutes ago
comment by -bloodred- (U1222)
posted 9 hours, 18 minutes ago
Anecdotal? Im. It referring you to my experience,
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Hahaha! You genuinely manage to get more stupid by the day, it's fascinating stuff.


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It’s one of his best.
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Anecdotal - not necessarily true or reliable, because based on personal accounts rather than facts or research.

He was questioning how I knew what other people thought. I suggested he speak to real people outside his bubble. (Rather than take my word for if) which is the opposite of Anecdotal.

How else does he learn of the opinions of others?

posted on 10/11/23

comment by Sat Nav (U18243)
posted 3 hours, 6 minutes ago
comment by Kobbie The King Mainoo (U10026)
posted 33 minutes ago
comment by -bloodred- (U1222)
posted 9 hours, 18 minutes ago
Anecdotal? Im. It referring you to my experience,
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Hahaha! You genuinely manage to get more stupid by the day, it's fascinating stuff.


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It’s one of his best.
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Tbh it looks like a phone typo which should read “I’m not referring you to my experience”
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Well done that man 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻

posted on 10/11/23

comment by Robbing Hoody - I taught Szoboszlai how to cushion half volleys (U6374)
posted 1 hour, 38 minutes ago
comment by Owen Beck (U1734)
posted 5 minutes ago
RDD face me you coward!!
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I think he's busy taping phone books around his waste and sharpening his toothbrush ready for going over the top on Sunday.
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Why would I need to protect myself when facing a peaceful protest, for peace, by a majority of people who follow a peaceful religion?

posted on 10/11/23

comment by U12215 (U22987)
posted 39 minutes ago
comment by Sat Nav (U18243)
posted 3 hours, 6 minutes ago
comment by Kobbie The King Mainoo (U10026)
posted 33 minutes ago
comment by -bloodred- (U1222)
posted 9 hours, 18 minutes ago
Anecdotal? Im. It referring you to my experience,
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Hahaha! You genuinely manage to get more stupid by the day, it's fascinating stuff.


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It’s one of his best.
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Tbh it looks like a phone typo which should read “I’m not referring you to my experience”
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Well done that man 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
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What were you referring to then when you suggested that I should go out and talk to some people in order to build my evidence base?

posted on 10/11/23

Can you just clear it up? Do I need to go and talk to a few people and get their views or should I rely on anecdotal evidence? Which one is it?

comment by Hector (U3606)

posted on 10/11/23

comment by U12215 (U22987)
posted 51 minutes ago
comment by Robbing Hoody - I taught Szoboszlai how to cushion half volleys (U6374)
posted 1 hour, 38 minutes ago
comment by Owen Beck (U1734)
posted 5 minutes ago
RDD face me you coward!!
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I think he's busy taping phone books around his waste and sharpening his toothbrush ready for going over the top on Sunday.
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Why would I need to protect myself when facing a peaceful protest, for peace, by a majority of people who follow a peaceful religion?
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Most of the protesters will be Marxists so won't have any religion.

posted on 10/11/23

comment by Owen Beck (U1734)
posted 8 minutes ago
Can you just clear it up? Do I need to go and talk to a few people and get their views or should I rely on anecdotal evidence? Which one is it?
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If you want to gauge the feelings of real people, towards this topic, you need to speak with them. How else to fo you gauge it?

posted on 10/11/23

comment by U12215 (U22987)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Owen Beck (U1734)
posted 8 minutes ago
Can you just clear it up? Do I need to go and talk to a few people and get their views or should I rely on anecdotal evidence? Which one is it?
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If you want to gauge the feelings of real people, towards this topic, you need to speak with them. How else to fo you gauge it?
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Is that what you did to form your view then? Why do you believe that it is a better method than anecdotal evidence? If I may ask

posted on 10/11/23

comment by Hector (U3606)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by U12215 (U22987)
posted 51 minutes ago
comment by Robbing Hoody - I taught Szoboszlai how to cushion half volleys (U6374)
posted 1 hour, 38 minutes ago
comment by Owen Beck (U1734)
posted 5 minutes ago
RDD face me you coward!!
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I think he's busy taping phone books around his waste and sharpening his toothbrush ready for going over the top on Sunday.
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Why would I need to protect myself when facing a peaceful protest, for peace, by a majority of people who follow a peaceful religion?
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Most of the protesters will be Marxists so won't have any religion.
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Marxists in their Crew shirts and Barbour Gilets, popping In from Surrey before heading off to shop at Harrods

posted on 10/11/23

comment by Owen Beck (U1734)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by U12215 (U22987)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Owen Beck (U1734)
posted 8 minutes ago
Can you just clear it up? Do I need to go and talk to a few people and get their views or should I rely on anecdotal evidence? Which one is it?
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If you want to gauge the feelings of real people, towards this topic, you need to speak with them. How else to fo you gauge it?
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Is that what you did to form your view then? Why do you believe that it is a better method than anecdotal evidence? If I may ask
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I formed my view throughy.own experiences. I'm suggesting you do the same.

Surveys, phone in, news reports, they are all the opinions of others, shared.

posted on 10/11/23

comment by U12215 (U22987)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Owen Beck (U1734)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by U12215 (U22987)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Owen Beck (U1734)
posted 8 minutes ago
Can you just clear it up? Do I need to go and talk to a few people and get their views or should I rely on anecdotal evidence? Which one is it?
----------------------------------------------------------------------

If you want to gauge the feelings of real people, towards this topic, you need to speak with them. How else to fo you gauge it?
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Is that what you did to form your view then? Why do you believe that it is a better method than anecdotal evidence? If I may ask
----------------------------------------------------------------------

I formed my view throughy.own experiences. I'm suggesting you do the same.

Surveys, phone in, news reports, they are all the opinions of others, shared.
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Maybe not opinions, but interpretations

posted on 10/11/23

comment by U12215 (U22987)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Owen Beck (U1734)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by U12215 (U22987)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Owen Beck (U1734)
posted 8 minutes ago
Can you just clear it up? Do I need to go and talk to a few people and get their views or should I rely on anecdotal evidence? Which one is it?
----------------------------------------------------------------------

If you want to gauge the feelings of real people, towards this topic, you need to speak with them. How else to fo you gauge it?
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Is that what you did to form your view then? Why do you believe that it is a better method than anecdotal evidence? If I may ask
----------------------------------------------------------------------

I formed my view throughy.own experiences. I'm suggesting you do the same.

Surveys, phone in, news reports, they are all the opinions of others, shared.
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Ok. So do you have any surveys you can share which back up your point regarding young people being fed up of whatever it is that you can't name? And how this compares to the older generation?

posted on 10/11/23

How might young people feel about the marches on Saturday for example? Do you think they'd be more for or against them going ahead and how do you think that would compare with the older generation?

posted on 10/11/23

comment by Owen Beck (U1734)
posted 33 seconds ago
comment by U12215 (U22987)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Owen Beck (U1734)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by U12215 (U22987)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Owen Beck (U1734)
posted 8 minutes ago
Can you just clear it up? Do I need to go and talk to a few people and get their views or should I rely on anecdotal evidence? Which one is it?
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If you want to gauge the feelings of real people, towards this topic, you need to speak with them. How else to fo you gauge it?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Is that what you did to form your view then? Why do you believe that it is a better method than anecdotal evidence? If I may ask
----------------------------------------------------------------------

I formed my view throughy.own experiences. I'm suggesting you do the same.

Surveys, phone in, news reports, they are all the opinions of others, shared.
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Ok. So do you have any surveys you can share which back up your point regarding young people being fed up of whatever it is that you can't name? And how this compares to the older generation?
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Your side have already dismissed 2 sources of evidence earlier in this discussion, because they didnt suit your argument.

I have a good grasp of how a lot of people feel about Britain of today, and i dont need to prove myself to you or anyone else.

You however dont seem to have a grasp of how many, many decent, hard working, proud Brits feel. Go and find out, or don't, it's you who is in the dark.

posted on 10/11/23

comment by U12215 (U22987)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Owen Beck (U1734)
posted 33 seconds ago
comment by U12215 (U22987)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Owen Beck (U1734)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by U12215 (U22987)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Owen Beck (U1734)
posted 8 minutes ago
Can you just clear it up? Do I need to go and talk to a few people and get their views or should I rely on anecdotal evidence? Which one is it?
----------------------------------------------------------------------

If you want to gauge the feelings of real people, towards this topic, you need to speak with them. How else to fo you gauge it?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Is that what you did to form your view then? Why do you believe that it is a better method than anecdotal evidence? If I may ask
----------------------------------------------------------------------

I formed my view throughy.own experiences. I'm suggesting you do the same.

Surveys, phone in, news reports, they are all the opinions of others, shared.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Ok. So do you have any surveys you can share which back up your point regarding young people being fed up of whatever it is that you can't name? And how this compares to the older generation?
----------------------------------------------------------------------

Your side have already dismissed 2 sources of evidence earlier in this discussion, because they didnt suit your argument.

I have a good grasp of how a lot of people feel about Britain of today, and i dont need to prove myself to you or anyone else.

You however dont seem to have a grasp of how many, many decent, hard working, proud Brits feel. Go and find out, or don't, it's you who is in the dark.
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Ok can you at least give me your opinion on how young people feel about Saturday's matches compared to old people? Based on your experiences maybe?

posted on 10/11/23

comment by Owen Beck (U1734)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by U12215 (U22987)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Owen Beck (U1734)
posted 33 seconds ago
comment by U12215 (U22987)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Owen Beck (U1734)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by U12215 (U22987)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Owen Beck (U1734)
posted 8 minutes ago
Can you just clear it up? Do I need to go and talk to a few people and get their views or should I rely on anecdotal evidence? Which one is it?
----------------------------------------------------------------------

If you want to gauge the feelings of real people, towards this topic, you need to speak with them. How else to fo you gauge it?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Is that what you did to form your view then? Why do you believe that it is a better method than anecdotal evidence? If I may ask
----------------------------------------------------------------------

I formed my view throughy.own experiences. I'm suggesting you do the same.

Surveys, phone in, news reports, they are all the opinions of others, shared.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Ok. So do you have any surveys you can share which back up your point regarding young people being fed up of whatever it is that you can't name? And how this compares to the older generation?
----------------------------------------------------------------------

Your side have already dismissed 2 sources of evidence earlier in this discussion, because they didnt suit your argument.

I have a good grasp of how a lot of people feel about Britain of today, and i dont need to prove myself to you or anyone else.

You however dont seem to have a grasp of how many, many decent, hard working, proud Brits feel. Go and find out, or don't, it's you who is in the dark.
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Ok can you at least give me your opinion on how young people feel about Saturday's matches compared to old people? Based on your experiences maybe?
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Most young people I have spoken to feel United will batter Luton, and Wolves might get a point at Spurs.

Busy for a bit now. Bye

posted on 10/11/23

Fk me, you too still pegging away?!

posted on 10/11/23

*two

posted on 10/11/23

Yeah it's fun and frustrating at the same time. You can trick him into a corner but then he is too stupid to realise he is in there so what's the point? He is like a goldfish in a tank "oh a wall, the way out must be the other way, oh a wall, must be the other way. This way's a wall, must be back the other way. Oh no, that way's a wall, better try the other way. Wall."

posted on 10/11/23

Fish tanks don't have walls

Tw4t

posted on 10/11/23

comment by U12215 (U22987)
posted 5 minutes ago
Fish tanks don't have walls

Tw4t
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They do, they're just see through. Which is why it seems like they aren't there but they actually are. It is why you have to keep turning back to check the other side of the tank to see if you can get out there. But then there is another see through wall blocking you on that side too. I know it is quite a difficult concept to understand and it is perfectly reasonable that you forget about the previous wall each time you try the current wall but in a few billion years, I promise you will evolve to work it out.

posted on 10/11/23

comment by U12215 (U22987)
posted 2 hours, 29 minutes ago
comment by Kobbie The King Mainoo (U10026)
posted 3 hours, 34 minutes ago
comment by -bloodred- (U1222)
posted 9 hours, 18 minutes ago
Anecdotal? Im. It referring you to my experience,
--------------
Hahaha! You genuinely manage to get more stupid by the day, it's fascinating stuff.


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It’s one of his best.
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Anecdotal - not necessarily true or reliable, because based on personal accounts rather than facts or research.

He was questioning how I knew what other people thought. I suggested he speak to real people outside his bubble. (Rather than take my word for if) which is the opposite of Anecdotal.

How else does he learn of the opinions of others?
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You are painfully stupid.

posted on 10/11/23

comment by Owen Beck (U1734)
posted 29 minutes ago
comment by U12215 (U22987)
posted 5 minutes ago
Fish tanks don't have walls

Tw4t
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They do, they're just see through. Which is why it seems like they aren't there but they actually are. It is why you have to keep turning back to check the other side of the tank to see if you can get out there. But then there is another see through wall blocking you on that side too. I know it is quite a difficult concept to understand and it is perfectly reasonable that you forget about the previous wall each time you try the current wall but in a few billion years, I promise you will evolve to work it out.
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See through. Couldn't even come up with transparent. 😆

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