comment by Dushane Hill (U11781)
posted 35 seconds ago
Marcus Rashford's brother / agent has been arrested for domestic violence in Miami, Florida. [@TeleFootball]
Wtf
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His brother was just trying to plant his foot but accidentally caught the victim
comment by merrysupersteve (relaxed about the situation) (U1132)
posted 16 seconds ago
comment by Dushane Hill (U11781)
posted 35 seconds ago
Marcus Rashford's brother / agent has been arrested for domestic violence in Miami, Florida. [@TeleFootball]
Wtf
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His brother was just trying to plant his foot but accidentally caught the victim
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Maybe it is all part of a plot
We are heading out of competition we had no chance of winning lads.
I'm far more angry with the PL form and that embarrassing Carabao Cup showing than the CL.
Even if we somehow got through we'd be well beaten in the last 16 against anyone pretty much anyway.
Shambles this club. On and off if. Needs an exorcism.
comment by Vengeance of Kungfu Bao Bun (U23079)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Redastomatoes- Feels very Moyesian...cleverson forever!If he is good enough he is ready! (U12026)
posted 15 seconds ago
comment by Vengeance of Kungfu Bao Bun (U23079)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Redastomatoes- Feels very Moyesian...cleverson forever!If he is good enough he is ready! (U12026)
posted 5 seconds ago
comment by Vengeance of Kungfu Bao Bun (U23079)
posted less than a minute ago
comment by Redastomatoes- Feels very Moyesian...cleverson forever!If he is good enough he is ready! (U12026)
posted 0 seconds ago
comment by Vengeance of Kungfu Bao Bun (U23079)
posted less than a minute ago
Certain players throwing the manager under the bus?
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He keeps playing them.
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No choice mate
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There is always a choice. That's what he refuses to understand. He does not have to start Eriksen in a game like this. You dont have to keep him after the red (suicidal). You font sub the one striker who was our only outlet all game. You dont keep Dalot after he showed himself so weak knowing you gave an option .
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We actually played well until Marcus was red carded. We were in complete control. Eriksen was very good for most parts. Amrabat for all his quality is far too casual, probably why he doesn't start.
Too many mentally weak players who crack at the slightest sign of pressure.
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We were not playing well. Their midfield was still dominating. They were putting pressure on our defense. Get it right we had the best counter attacking players there that's all. When they made one mistake we could punish them. Thank God for Hojlund and Garnacho. But I need to be clear about this. If we were 11, they would have gotten a draw when they calmed down and got their confidence. The defence wont stole this with 11.
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Exaggeration to suggest their midfield was dominating, it simply wasn't when we had 11 on the field. They were all subdued more like!
We simply fell apart when reduced to 10.
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If the midfield was that good, a red card should not make us fall apart so easily. We are not the first team to get a red card. It should not lead to this type of collapse. Liverpool won a game with it for bomber a half. Us falling apart so clumsily is on Ten Ten Hag. Its not something that "just happened "
I still hope to get the EL spot, just give the new manager something to start with
comment by Vengeance of Kungfu Bao Bun (U23079)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Glazers Out (SE85) (U21241)
posted 2 minutes ago
Last time we lost 9 from our first 17 games we got relegated, although most of those games were league games and we weren't in the European cup.
Not great is it?
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Short termism or long term stability? That is what we must decide.
The same fans who are calling for Eth's head will no doubt will be calling for someone else's head 18 months on!
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Keeping the wrong guy isn't a good plan just to avoid sacking another though.
I'm not saying he's definitely the wrong guy but I honestly can't say with any certainty that he's the right one either. His transfer decisions alone are sackable offences. Antony n Mount for £140m? Lunacy.
Personally think ETH has a plan for players he wanted and vow he wanted to play
I think he was told get .oney to spend money. Hence that tour instead of preseason.
Maguire and Scott not being sold meant he had to make do.
I think there is so much happening with the club, add in the whole greenwood and Antony sagas and injuries and that is why I'm suspicious about getting rid of the manager.
A stretch? Maybe .
Maybe I'm just sick of the manager circus
comment by Redastomatoes- Feels very Moyesian...cleverson forever!If he is good enough he is ready! (U12026)
posted 1 minute ago
His signings were terrible, his choices remain terrible. His tactics are ridiculous. His teams have his ridiculous sense of calmness he definitely has a huge hand to were we are. He should not be managing us. Its ridiculous
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Ok, maybe it should be Ole, Jose, or LvG? We've had so many different type of managers, spent in excess of 1bn and look where we are!
Chopping and changing managers has not worked, it's made the squad worse with each change.
comment by Glazers Out (SE85) (U21241)
posted 2 minutes ago
We are heading out of competition we had no chance of winning lads.
I'm far more angry with the PL form and that embarrassing Carabao Cup showing than the CL.
Even if we somehow got through we'd be well beaten in the last 16 against anyone pretty much anyway.
Shambles this club. On and off if. Needs an exorcism.
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It actually upsets me more in a way as we'll no doubt end up in the Thursday night cup, which we also have no chance of winning. But it means all our weekend games will be on Sundays, which limits the opportunities to at least drink and numb the pain 🤣
comment by Glazers Out (SE85) (U21241)
posted 26 seconds ago
comment by Vengeance of Kungfu Bao Bun (U23079)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Glazers Out (SE85) (U21241)
posted 2 minutes ago
Last time we lost 9 from our first 17 games we got relegated, although most of those games were league games and we weren't in the European cup.
Not great is it?
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Short termism or long term stability? That is what we must decide.
The same fans who are calling for Eth's head will no doubt will be calling for someone else's head 18 months on!
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Keeping the wrong guy isn't a good plan just to avoid sacking another though.
I'm not saying he's definitely the wrong guy but I honestly can't say with any certainty that he's the right one either. His transfer decisions alone are sackable offences. Antony n Mount for £140m? Lunacy.
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Who is responsible for hiring the "wrong guy"? Who is responsible for putting a squad together that will not serve us well over the long term? This is not Eth's doing, he is a small part of the problem. A squad can't be overhauled in 18 months, it can't be overhauled at all if we are constantly chopping and changing managers. Impatient fans do not help, they exacerbate the issue unfortunately.
If we sack Eth, we will be back to square again.
It only ends one way when they players lose hope in the manager. That has happened for many of them.
He’s cooked, only a matter of when now
Please for the love of God let us now finish bottom of the group
To end up in the Europa we need at least one more point. Not sure we'll get that even.
comment by Diafol Coch 77 🏴 (U2462)
posted 26 seconds ago
To end up in the Europa we need at least one more point. Not sure we'll get that even.
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We'll probably get it against Bayern reserves. The players will play like men possessed in that game with no pressure on
comment by Vengeance of Kungfu Bao Bun (U23079)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Redastomatoes- Feels very Moyesian...cleverson forever!If he is good enough he is ready! (U12026)
posted 1 minute ago
His signings were terrible, his choices remain terrible. His tactics are ridiculous. His teams have his ridiculous sense of calmness he definitely has a huge hand to were we are. He should not be managing us. Its ridiculous
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Ok, maybe it should be Ole, Jose, or LvG? We've had so many different type of managers, spent in excess of 1bn and look where we are!
Chopping and changing managers has not worked, it's made the squad worse with each change.
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Choosing the wrong manager to stand with is the worst thing to do. It compound his flaws to the players we have. We are better off with a no nonsense manager ready to play the best 11 he sees not thinking of someone's record. Do you know how bad it wi be for him to solidify his flaws? It will take a lot more longer to sort them out.
comment by Diafol Coch 77 🏴 (U2462)
posted 1 second ago
To end up in the Europa we need at least one more point. Not sure we'll get that even.
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I'll be happy with no European footy this season. We need to consolidate our domestic form before having lofty ambitions.
comment by Vengeance of Kungfu Bao Bun (U23079)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Glazers Out (SE85) (U21241)
posted 26 seconds ago
comment by Vengeance of Kungfu Bao Bun (U23079)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Glazers Out (SE85) (U21241)
posted 2 minutes ago
Last time we lost 9 from our first 17 games we got relegated, although most of those games were league games and we weren't in the European cup.
Not great is it?
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Short termism or long term stability? That is what we must decide.
The same fans who are calling for Eth's head will no doubt will be calling for someone else's head 18 months on!
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Keeping the wrong guy isn't a good plan just to avoid sacking another though.
I'm not saying he's definitely the wrong guy but I honestly can't say with any certainty that he's the right one either. His transfer decisions alone are sackable offences. Antony n Mount for £140m? Lunacy.
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Who is responsible for hiring the "wrong guy"? Who is responsible for putting a squad together that will not serve us well over the long term? This is not Eth's doing, he is a small part of the problem. A squad can't be overhauled in 18 months, it can't be overhauled at all if we are constantly chopping and changing managers. Impatient fans do not help, they exacerbate the issue unfortunately.
If we sack Eth, we will be back to square again.
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You are working on an assumption that we are not already there?
comment by merrysupersteve (relaxed about the situation) (U1132)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Diafol Coch 77 🏴 (U2462)
posted 26 seconds ago
To end up in the Europa we need at least one more point. Not sure we'll get that even.
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We'll probably get it against Bayern reserves. The players will play like men possessed in that game with no pressure on
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The reserves are probably the better team.
comment by Vengeance of Kungfu Bao Bun (U23079)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Glazers Out (SE85) (U21241)
posted 26 seconds ago
comment by Vengeance of Kungfu Bao Bun (U23079)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Glazers Out (SE85) (U21241)
posted 2 minutes ago
Last time we lost 9 from our first 17 games we got relegated, although most of those games were league games and we weren't in the European cup.
Not great is it?
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Short termism or long term stability? That is what we must decide.
The same fans who are calling for Eth's head will no doubt will be calling for someone else's head 18 months on!
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Keeping the wrong guy isn't a good plan just to avoid sacking another though.
I'm not saying he's definitely the wrong guy but I honestly can't say with any certainty that he's the right one either. His transfer decisions alone are sackable offences. Antony n Mount for £140m? Lunacy.
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Who is responsible for hiring the "wrong guy"? Who is responsible for putting a squad together that will not serve us well over the long term? This is not Eth's doing, he is a small part of the problem. A squad can't be overhauled in 18 months, it can't be overhauled at all if we are constantly chopping and changing managers. Impatient fans do not help, they exacerbate the issue unfortunately.
If we sack Eth, we will be back to square again.
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You keep saying this like he's a brilliant manager and doing nothing wrong. It's mental.
Glazers will always be the biggest issue in my eyes. That's a given.
I don't think ETH is the right guy though. His transfers, his team selections, his subs... basically everything can be questioned.
The real issue is WHO next? That could be his saving grace. Going nowhere with this guy though.
comment by Redastomatoes- Feels very Moyesian...cleverson forever!If he is good enough he is ready! (U12026)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by merrysupersteve (relaxed about the situation) (U1132)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Diafol Coch 77 🏴 (U2462)
posted 26 seconds ago
To end up in the Europa we need at least one more point. Not sure we'll get that even.
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We'll probably get it against Bayern reserves. The players will play like men possessed in that game with no pressure on
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The reserves are probably the better team.
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They could well be. Or certainly the under 18s, who have won every game this season.
comment by Redastomatoes- Feels very Moyesian...cleverson forever!If he is good enough he is ready! (U12026)
posted 9 seconds ago
comment by Vengeance of Kungfu Bao Bun (U23079)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Redastomatoes- Feels very Moyesian...cleverson forever!If he is good enough he is ready! (U12026)
posted 1 minute ago
His signings were terrible, his choices remain terrible. His tactics are ridiculous. His teams have his ridiculous sense of calmness he definitely has a huge hand to were we are. He should not be managing us. Its ridiculous
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Ok, maybe it should be Ole, Jose, or LvG? We've had so many different type of managers, spent in excess of 1bn and look where we are!
Chopping and changing managers has not worked, it's made the squad worse with each change.
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Choosing the wrong manager to stand with is the worst thing to do. It compound his flaws to the players we have. We are better off with a no nonsense manager ready to play the best 11 he sees not thinking of someone's record. Do you know how bad it wi be for him to solidify his flaws? It will take a lot more longer to sort them out.
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He was the flavour of the month at the time, who says he was the wrong one? He was the best choice! We are making the wrong type of signings because we have zero long term vision, we have no DoF. We seem to only attract players with a desire an easy life, players who want one last pay out. Why aren't we identifying hungry youngsters with the right winning mentality? Even our academy is failing us, BREXIT is being cited as a reason!
comment by Glazers Out (SE85) (U21241)
posted 12 seconds ago
comment by Vengeance of Kungfu Bao Bun (U23079)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Glazers Out (SE85) (U21241)
posted 26 seconds ago
comment by Vengeance of Kungfu Bao Bun (U23079)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Glazers Out (SE85) (U21241)
posted 2 minutes ago
Last time we lost 9 from our first 17 games we got relegated, although most of those games were league games and we weren't in the European cup.
Not great is it?
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Short termism or long term stability? That is what we must decide.
The same fans who are calling for Eth's head will no doubt will be calling for someone else's head 18 months on!
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Keeping the wrong guy isn't a good plan just to avoid sacking another though.
I'm not saying he's definitely the wrong guy but I honestly can't say with any certainty that he's the right one either. His transfer decisions alone are sackable offences. Antony n Mount for £140m? Lunacy.
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Who is responsible for hiring the "wrong guy"? Who is responsible for putting a squad together that will not serve us well over the long term? This is not Eth's doing, he is a small part of the problem. A squad can't be overhauled in 18 months, it can't be overhauled at all if we are constantly chopping and changing managers. Impatient fans do not help, they exacerbate the issue unfortunately.
If we sack Eth, we will be back to square again.
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You keep saying this like he's a brilliant manager and doing nothing wrong. It's mental.
Glazers will always be the biggest issue in my eyes. That's a given.
I don't think ETH is the right guy though. His transfers, his team selections, his subs... basically everything can be questioned.
The real issue is WHO next? That could be his saving grace. Going nowhere with this guy though.
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Do you suffer from amnesia? Did last season not take place? Are you that fickle mate?!
You know perfectly well he is not the main issue.
comment by Vengeance of Kungfu Bao Bun (U23079)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Glazers Out (SE85) (U21241)
posted 12 seconds ago
comment by Vengeance of Kungfu Bao Bun (U23079)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Glazers Out (SE85) (U21241)
posted 26 seconds ago
comment by Vengeance of Kungfu Bao Bun (U23079)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Glazers Out (SE85) (U21241)
posted 2 minutes ago
Last time we lost 9 from our first 17 games we got relegated, although most of those games were league games and we weren't in the European cup.
Not great is it?
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Short termism or long term stability? That is what we must decide.
The same fans who are calling for Eth's head will no doubt will be calling for someone else's head 18 months on!
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Keeping the wrong guy isn't a good plan just to avoid sacking another though.
I'm not saying he's definitely the wrong guy but I honestly can't say with any certainty that he's the right one either. His transfer decisions alone are sackable offences. Antony n Mount for £140m? Lunacy.
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Who is responsible for hiring the "wrong guy"? Who is responsible for putting a squad together that will not serve us well over the long term? This is not Eth's doing, he is a small part of the problem. A squad can't be overhauled in 18 months, it can't be overhauled at all if we are constantly chopping and changing managers. Impatient fans do not help, they exacerbate the issue unfortunately.
If we sack Eth, we will be back to square again.
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You keep saying this like he's a brilliant manager and doing nothing wrong. It's mental.
Glazers will always be the biggest issue in my eyes. That's a given.
I don't think ETH is the right guy though. His transfers, his team selections, his subs... basically everything can be questioned.
The real issue is WHO next? That could be his saving grace. Going nowhere with this guy though.
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Do you suffer from amnesia? Did last season not take place? Are you that fickle mate?!
You know perfectly well he is not the main issue.
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Last season? Did you say that the season Ole got the boot? Bet you didn't.
The one where Liverpool, Chelsea and Spurs were a shambles? 2 of them have improved this year and look where they are now.
We didn't beat a single top half team away last season, we lost by 7 at Liverpool and 6 at City. Sevilla did us like a kipper too.
I don't think you actually watched the same season as I did. The easiest route to a League cup win in history has warped your brain.
We are a total and utter joke in all areas. You keep believing in him if you want to. He's out of his depth.
comment by Redastomatoes- Feels very Moyesian...cleverson forever!If he is good enough he is ready! (U12026)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by Vengeance of Kungfu Bao Bun (U23079)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Glazers Out (SE85) (U21241)
posted 26 seconds ago
comment by Vengeance of Kungfu Bao Bun (U23079)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Glazers Out (SE85) (U21241)
posted 2 minutes ago
Last time we lost 9 from our first 17 games we got relegated, although most of those games were league games and we weren't in the European cup.
Not great is it?
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Short termism or long term stability? That is what we must decide.
The same fans who are calling for Eth's head will no doubt will be calling for someone else's head 18 months on!
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Keeping the wrong guy isn't a good plan just to avoid sacking another though.
I'm not saying he's definitely the wrong guy but I honestly can't say with any certainty that he's the right one either. His transfer decisions alone are sackable offences. Antony n Mount for £140m? Lunacy.
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Who is responsible for hiring the "wrong guy"? Who is responsible for putting a squad together that will not serve us well over the long term? This is not Eth's doing, he is a small part of the problem. A squad can't be overhauled in 18 months, it can't be overhauled at all if we are constantly chopping and changing managers. Impatient fans do not help, they exacerbate the issue unfortunately.
If we sack Eth, we will be back to square again.
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You are working on an assumption that we are not already there?
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Weak defence, major injuries, player form on a downward trajectory. Unique issues involving Greenwood and Antony, etc. And that's also ignoring the off field take over issues. Given the season we enjoyed last season, he deserves a chance to rectify whatever we are currently going through. So, no we are not on square 1 but we risk it all by sacking him with even more uncertainty introduced with a new manager, new "style" and even more alteration to a squad resembling Frankenstein's monster!
comment by Vengeance of Kungfu Bao Bun (U23079)
posted 40 seconds ago
comment by Glazers Out (SE85) (U21241)
posted 12 seconds ago
comment by Vengeance of Kungfu Bao Bun (U23079)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Glazers Out (SE85) (U21241)
posted 26 seconds ago
comment by Vengeance of Kungfu Bao Bun (U23079)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Glazers Out (SE85) (U21241)
posted 2 minutes ago
Last time we lost 9 from our first 17 games we got relegated, although most of those games were league games and we weren't in the European cup.
Not great is it?
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Short termism or long term stability? That is what we must decide.
The same fans who are calling for Eth's head will no doubt will be calling for someone else's head 18 months on!
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Keeping the wrong guy isn't a good plan just to avoid sacking another though.
I'm not saying he's definitely the wrong guy but I honestly can't say with any certainty that he's the right one either. His transfer decisions alone are sackable offences. Antony n Mount for £140m? Lunacy.
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Who is responsible for hiring the "wrong guy"? Who is responsible for putting a squad together that will not serve us well over the long term? This is not Eth's doing, he is a small part of the problem. A squad can't be overhauled in 18 months, it can't be overhauled at all if we are constantly chopping and changing managers. Impatient fans do not help, they exacerbate the issue unfortunately.
If we sack Eth, we will be back to square again.
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You keep saying this like he's a brilliant manager and doing nothing wrong. It's mental.
Glazers will always be the biggest issue in my eyes. That's a given.
I don't think ETH is the right guy though. His transfers, his team selections, his subs... basically everything can be questioned.
The real issue is WHO next? That could be his saving grace. Going nowhere with this guy though.
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Do you suffer from amnesia? Did last season not take place? Are you that fickle mate?!
You know perfectly well he is not the main issue.
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Do you remember how that last season went?
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posted on 8/11/23
comment by Dushane Hill (U11781)
posted 35 seconds ago
Marcus Rashford's brother / agent has been arrested for domestic violence in Miami, Florida. [@TeleFootball]
Wtf
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His brother was just trying to plant his foot but accidentally caught the victim
posted on 8/11/23
comment by merrysupersteve (relaxed about the situation) (U1132)
posted 16 seconds ago
comment by Dushane Hill (U11781)
posted 35 seconds ago
Marcus Rashford's brother / agent has been arrested for domestic violence in Miami, Florida. [@TeleFootball]
Wtf
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His brother was just trying to plant his foot but accidentally caught the victim
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Maybe it is all part of a plot
posted on 8/11/23
We are heading out of competition we had no chance of winning lads.
I'm far more angry with the PL form and that embarrassing Carabao Cup showing than the CL.
Even if we somehow got through we'd be well beaten in the last 16 against anyone pretty much anyway.
Shambles this club. On and off if. Needs an exorcism.
posted on 8/11/23
comment by Vengeance of Kungfu Bao Bun (U23079)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Redastomatoes- Feels very Moyesian...cleverson forever!If he is good enough he is ready! (U12026)
posted 15 seconds ago
comment by Vengeance of Kungfu Bao Bun (U23079)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Redastomatoes- Feels very Moyesian...cleverson forever!If he is good enough he is ready! (U12026)
posted 5 seconds ago
comment by Vengeance of Kungfu Bao Bun (U23079)
posted less than a minute ago
comment by Redastomatoes- Feels very Moyesian...cleverson forever!If he is good enough he is ready! (U12026)
posted 0 seconds ago
comment by Vengeance of Kungfu Bao Bun (U23079)
posted less than a minute ago
Certain players throwing the manager under the bus?
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He keeps playing them.
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No choice mate
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There is always a choice. That's what he refuses to understand. He does not have to start Eriksen in a game like this. You dont have to keep him after the red (suicidal). You font sub the one striker who was our only outlet all game. You dont keep Dalot after he showed himself so weak knowing you gave an option .
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We actually played well until Marcus was red carded. We were in complete control. Eriksen was very good for most parts. Amrabat for all his quality is far too casual, probably why he doesn't start.
Too many mentally weak players who crack at the slightest sign of pressure.
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We were not playing well. Their midfield was still dominating. They were putting pressure on our defense. Get it right we had the best counter attacking players there that's all. When they made one mistake we could punish them. Thank God for Hojlund and Garnacho. But I need to be clear about this. If we were 11, they would have gotten a draw when they calmed down and got their confidence. The defence wont stole this with 11.
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Exaggeration to suggest their midfield was dominating, it simply wasn't when we had 11 on the field. They were all subdued more like!
We simply fell apart when reduced to 10.
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If the midfield was that good, a red card should not make us fall apart so easily. We are not the first team to get a red card. It should not lead to this type of collapse. Liverpool won a game with it for bomber a half. Us falling apart so clumsily is on Ten Ten Hag. Its not something that "just happened "
posted on 8/11/23
I still hope to get the EL spot, just give the new manager something to start with
posted on 8/11/23
comment by Vengeance of Kungfu Bao Bun (U23079)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Glazers Out (SE85) (U21241)
posted 2 minutes ago
Last time we lost 9 from our first 17 games we got relegated, although most of those games were league games and we weren't in the European cup.
Not great is it?
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Short termism or long term stability? That is what we must decide.
The same fans who are calling for Eth's head will no doubt will be calling for someone else's head 18 months on!
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Keeping the wrong guy isn't a good plan just to avoid sacking another though.
I'm not saying he's definitely the wrong guy but I honestly can't say with any certainty that he's the right one either. His transfer decisions alone are sackable offences. Antony n Mount for £140m? Lunacy.
posted on 8/11/23
Personally think ETH has a plan for players he wanted and vow he wanted to play
I think he was told get .oney to spend money. Hence that tour instead of preseason.
Maguire and Scott not being sold meant he had to make do.
I think there is so much happening with the club, add in the whole greenwood and Antony sagas and injuries and that is why I'm suspicious about getting rid of the manager.
A stretch? Maybe .
Maybe I'm just sick of the manager circus
posted on 8/11/23
comment by Redastomatoes- Feels very Moyesian...cleverson forever!If he is good enough he is ready! (U12026)
posted 1 minute ago
His signings were terrible, his choices remain terrible. His tactics are ridiculous. His teams have his ridiculous sense of calmness he definitely has a huge hand to were we are. He should not be managing us. Its ridiculous
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Ok, maybe it should be Ole, Jose, or LvG? We've had so many different type of managers, spent in excess of 1bn and look where we are!
Chopping and changing managers has not worked, it's made the squad worse with each change.
posted on 8/11/23
comment by Glazers Out (SE85) (U21241)
posted 2 minutes ago
We are heading out of competition we had no chance of winning lads.
I'm far more angry with the PL form and that embarrassing Carabao Cup showing than the CL.
Even if we somehow got through we'd be well beaten in the last 16 against anyone pretty much anyway.
Shambles this club. On and off if. Needs an exorcism.
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It actually upsets me more in a way as we'll no doubt end up in the Thursday night cup, which we also have no chance of winning. But it means all our weekend games will be on Sundays, which limits the opportunities to at least drink and numb the pain 🤣
posted on 8/11/23
comment by Glazers Out (SE85) (U21241)
posted 26 seconds ago
comment by Vengeance of Kungfu Bao Bun (U23079)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Glazers Out (SE85) (U21241)
posted 2 minutes ago
Last time we lost 9 from our first 17 games we got relegated, although most of those games were league games and we weren't in the European cup.
Not great is it?
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Short termism or long term stability? That is what we must decide.
The same fans who are calling for Eth's head will no doubt will be calling for someone else's head 18 months on!
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Keeping the wrong guy isn't a good plan just to avoid sacking another though.
I'm not saying he's definitely the wrong guy but I honestly can't say with any certainty that he's the right one either. His transfer decisions alone are sackable offences. Antony n Mount for £140m? Lunacy.
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Who is responsible for hiring the "wrong guy"? Who is responsible for putting a squad together that will not serve us well over the long term? This is not Eth's doing, he is a small part of the problem. A squad can't be overhauled in 18 months, it can't be overhauled at all if we are constantly chopping and changing managers. Impatient fans do not help, they exacerbate the issue unfortunately.
If we sack Eth, we will be back to square again.
posted on 8/11/23
It only ends one way when they players lose hope in the manager. That has happened for many of them.
He’s cooked, only a matter of when now
posted on 8/11/23
Please for the love of God let us now finish bottom of the group
posted on 8/11/23
To end up in the Europa we need at least one more point. Not sure we'll get that even.
posted on 8/11/23
comment by Diafol Coch 77 🏴 (U2462)
posted 26 seconds ago
To end up in the Europa we need at least one more point. Not sure we'll get that even.
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We'll probably get it against Bayern reserves. The players will play like men possessed in that game with no pressure on
posted on 8/11/23
comment by Vengeance of Kungfu Bao Bun (U23079)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Redastomatoes- Feels very Moyesian...cleverson forever!If he is good enough he is ready! (U12026)
posted 1 minute ago
His signings were terrible, his choices remain terrible. His tactics are ridiculous. His teams have his ridiculous sense of calmness he definitely has a huge hand to were we are. He should not be managing us. Its ridiculous
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Ok, maybe it should be Ole, Jose, or LvG? We've had so many different type of managers, spent in excess of 1bn and look where we are!
Chopping and changing managers has not worked, it's made the squad worse with each change.
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Choosing the wrong manager to stand with is the worst thing to do. It compound his flaws to the players we have. We are better off with a no nonsense manager ready to play the best 11 he sees not thinking of someone's record. Do you know how bad it wi be for him to solidify his flaws? It will take a lot more longer to sort them out.
posted on 8/11/23
comment by Diafol Coch 77 🏴 (U2462)
posted 1 second ago
To end up in the Europa we need at least one more point. Not sure we'll get that even.
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I'll be happy with no European footy this season. We need to consolidate our domestic form before having lofty ambitions.
posted on 8/11/23
comment by Vengeance of Kungfu Bao Bun (U23079)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Glazers Out (SE85) (U21241)
posted 26 seconds ago
comment by Vengeance of Kungfu Bao Bun (U23079)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Glazers Out (SE85) (U21241)
posted 2 minutes ago
Last time we lost 9 from our first 17 games we got relegated, although most of those games were league games and we weren't in the European cup.
Not great is it?
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Short termism or long term stability? That is what we must decide.
The same fans who are calling for Eth's head will no doubt will be calling for someone else's head 18 months on!
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Keeping the wrong guy isn't a good plan just to avoid sacking another though.
I'm not saying he's definitely the wrong guy but I honestly can't say with any certainty that he's the right one either. His transfer decisions alone are sackable offences. Antony n Mount for £140m? Lunacy.
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Who is responsible for hiring the "wrong guy"? Who is responsible for putting a squad together that will not serve us well over the long term? This is not Eth's doing, he is a small part of the problem. A squad can't be overhauled in 18 months, it can't be overhauled at all if we are constantly chopping and changing managers. Impatient fans do not help, they exacerbate the issue unfortunately.
If we sack Eth, we will be back to square again.
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You are working on an assumption that we are not already there?
posted on 8/11/23
comment by merrysupersteve (relaxed about the situation) (U1132)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Diafol Coch 77 🏴 (U2462)
posted 26 seconds ago
To end up in the Europa we need at least one more point. Not sure we'll get that even.
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We'll probably get it against Bayern reserves. The players will play like men possessed in that game with no pressure on
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The reserves are probably the better team.
posted on 8/11/23
comment by Vengeance of Kungfu Bao Bun (U23079)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Glazers Out (SE85) (U21241)
posted 26 seconds ago
comment by Vengeance of Kungfu Bao Bun (U23079)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Glazers Out (SE85) (U21241)
posted 2 minutes ago
Last time we lost 9 from our first 17 games we got relegated, although most of those games were league games and we weren't in the European cup.
Not great is it?
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Short termism or long term stability? That is what we must decide.
The same fans who are calling for Eth's head will no doubt will be calling for someone else's head 18 months on!
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Keeping the wrong guy isn't a good plan just to avoid sacking another though.
I'm not saying he's definitely the wrong guy but I honestly can't say with any certainty that he's the right one either. His transfer decisions alone are sackable offences. Antony n Mount for £140m? Lunacy.
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Who is responsible for hiring the "wrong guy"? Who is responsible for putting a squad together that will not serve us well over the long term? This is not Eth's doing, he is a small part of the problem. A squad can't be overhauled in 18 months, it can't be overhauled at all if we are constantly chopping and changing managers. Impatient fans do not help, they exacerbate the issue unfortunately.
If we sack Eth, we will be back to square again.
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You keep saying this like he's a brilliant manager and doing nothing wrong. It's mental.
Glazers will always be the biggest issue in my eyes. That's a given.
I don't think ETH is the right guy though. His transfers, his team selections, his subs... basically everything can be questioned.
The real issue is WHO next? That could be his saving grace. Going nowhere with this guy though.
posted on 8/11/23
comment by Redastomatoes- Feels very Moyesian...cleverson forever!If he is good enough he is ready! (U12026)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by merrysupersteve (relaxed about the situation) (U1132)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Diafol Coch 77 🏴 (U2462)
posted 26 seconds ago
To end up in the Europa we need at least one more point. Not sure we'll get that even.
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We'll probably get it against Bayern reserves. The players will play like men possessed in that game with no pressure on
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The reserves are probably the better team.
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They could well be. Or certainly the under 18s, who have won every game this season.
posted on 8/11/23
comment by Redastomatoes- Feels very Moyesian...cleverson forever!If he is good enough he is ready! (U12026)
posted 9 seconds ago
comment by Vengeance of Kungfu Bao Bun (U23079)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Redastomatoes- Feels very Moyesian...cleverson forever!If he is good enough he is ready! (U12026)
posted 1 minute ago
His signings were terrible, his choices remain terrible. His tactics are ridiculous. His teams have his ridiculous sense of calmness he definitely has a huge hand to were we are. He should not be managing us. Its ridiculous
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Ok, maybe it should be Ole, Jose, or LvG? We've had so many different type of managers, spent in excess of 1bn and look where we are!
Chopping and changing managers has not worked, it's made the squad worse with each change.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Choosing the wrong manager to stand with is the worst thing to do. It compound his flaws to the players we have. We are better off with a no nonsense manager ready to play the best 11 he sees not thinking of someone's record. Do you know how bad it wi be for him to solidify his flaws? It will take a lot more longer to sort them out.
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He was the flavour of the month at the time, who says he was the wrong one? He was the best choice! We are making the wrong type of signings because we have zero long term vision, we have no DoF. We seem to only attract players with a desire an easy life, players who want one last pay out. Why aren't we identifying hungry youngsters with the right winning mentality? Even our academy is failing us, BREXIT is being cited as a reason!
posted on 8/11/23
comment by Glazers Out (SE85) (U21241)
posted 12 seconds ago
comment by Vengeance of Kungfu Bao Bun (U23079)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Glazers Out (SE85) (U21241)
posted 26 seconds ago
comment by Vengeance of Kungfu Bao Bun (U23079)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Glazers Out (SE85) (U21241)
posted 2 minutes ago
Last time we lost 9 from our first 17 games we got relegated, although most of those games were league games and we weren't in the European cup.
Not great is it?
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Short termism or long term stability? That is what we must decide.
The same fans who are calling for Eth's head will no doubt will be calling for someone else's head 18 months on!
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Keeping the wrong guy isn't a good plan just to avoid sacking another though.
I'm not saying he's definitely the wrong guy but I honestly can't say with any certainty that he's the right one either. His transfer decisions alone are sackable offences. Antony n Mount for £140m? Lunacy.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Who is responsible for hiring the "wrong guy"? Who is responsible for putting a squad together that will not serve us well over the long term? This is not Eth's doing, he is a small part of the problem. A squad can't be overhauled in 18 months, it can't be overhauled at all if we are constantly chopping and changing managers. Impatient fans do not help, they exacerbate the issue unfortunately.
If we sack Eth, we will be back to square again.
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You keep saying this like he's a brilliant manager and doing nothing wrong. It's mental.
Glazers will always be the biggest issue in my eyes. That's a given.
I don't think ETH is the right guy though. His transfers, his team selections, his subs... basically everything can be questioned.
The real issue is WHO next? That could be his saving grace. Going nowhere with this guy though.
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Do you suffer from amnesia? Did last season not take place? Are you that fickle mate?!
You know perfectly well he is not the main issue.
posted on 8/11/23
comment by Vengeance of Kungfu Bao Bun (U23079)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Glazers Out (SE85) (U21241)
posted 12 seconds ago
comment by Vengeance of Kungfu Bao Bun (U23079)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Glazers Out (SE85) (U21241)
posted 26 seconds ago
comment by Vengeance of Kungfu Bao Bun (U23079)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Glazers Out (SE85) (U21241)
posted 2 minutes ago
Last time we lost 9 from our first 17 games we got relegated, although most of those games were league games and we weren't in the European cup.
Not great is it?
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Short termism or long term stability? That is what we must decide.
The same fans who are calling for Eth's head will no doubt will be calling for someone else's head 18 months on!
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Keeping the wrong guy isn't a good plan just to avoid sacking another though.
I'm not saying he's definitely the wrong guy but I honestly can't say with any certainty that he's the right one either. His transfer decisions alone are sackable offences. Antony n Mount for £140m? Lunacy.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Who is responsible for hiring the "wrong guy"? Who is responsible for putting a squad together that will not serve us well over the long term? This is not Eth's doing, he is a small part of the problem. A squad can't be overhauled in 18 months, it can't be overhauled at all if we are constantly chopping and changing managers. Impatient fans do not help, they exacerbate the issue unfortunately.
If we sack Eth, we will be back to square again.
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You keep saying this like he's a brilliant manager and doing nothing wrong. It's mental.
Glazers will always be the biggest issue in my eyes. That's a given.
I don't think ETH is the right guy though. His transfers, his team selections, his subs... basically everything can be questioned.
The real issue is WHO next? That could be his saving grace. Going nowhere with this guy though.
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Do you suffer from amnesia? Did last season not take place? Are you that fickle mate?!
You know perfectly well he is not the main issue.
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Last season? Did you say that the season Ole got the boot? Bet you didn't.
The one where Liverpool, Chelsea and Spurs were a shambles? 2 of them have improved this year and look where they are now.
We didn't beat a single top half team away last season, we lost by 7 at Liverpool and 6 at City. Sevilla did us like a kipper too.
I don't think you actually watched the same season as I did. The easiest route to a League cup win in history has warped your brain.
We are a total and utter joke in all areas. You keep believing in him if you want to. He's out of his depth.
posted on 8/11/23
comment by Redastomatoes- Feels very Moyesian...cleverson forever!If he is good enough he is ready! (U12026)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by Vengeance of Kungfu Bao Bun (U23079)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Glazers Out (SE85) (U21241)
posted 26 seconds ago
comment by Vengeance of Kungfu Bao Bun (U23079)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Glazers Out (SE85) (U21241)
posted 2 minutes ago
Last time we lost 9 from our first 17 games we got relegated, although most of those games were league games and we weren't in the European cup.
Not great is it?
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Short termism or long term stability? That is what we must decide.
The same fans who are calling for Eth's head will no doubt will be calling for someone else's head 18 months on!
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Keeping the wrong guy isn't a good plan just to avoid sacking another though.
I'm not saying he's definitely the wrong guy but I honestly can't say with any certainty that he's the right one either. His transfer decisions alone are sackable offences. Antony n Mount for £140m? Lunacy.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Who is responsible for hiring the "wrong guy"? Who is responsible for putting a squad together that will not serve us well over the long term? This is not Eth's doing, he is a small part of the problem. A squad can't be overhauled in 18 months, it can't be overhauled at all if we are constantly chopping and changing managers. Impatient fans do not help, they exacerbate the issue unfortunately.
If we sack Eth, we will be back to square again.
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You are working on an assumption that we are not already there?
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Weak defence, major injuries, player form on a downward trajectory. Unique issues involving Greenwood and Antony, etc. And that's also ignoring the off field take over issues. Given the season we enjoyed last season, he deserves a chance to rectify whatever we are currently going through. So, no we are not on square 1 but we risk it all by sacking him with even more uncertainty introduced with a new manager, new "style" and even more alteration to a squad resembling Frankenstein's monster!
posted on 8/11/23
comment by Vengeance of Kungfu Bao Bun (U23079)
posted 40 seconds ago
comment by Glazers Out (SE85) (U21241)
posted 12 seconds ago
comment by Vengeance of Kungfu Bao Bun (U23079)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Glazers Out (SE85) (U21241)
posted 26 seconds ago
comment by Vengeance of Kungfu Bao Bun (U23079)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Glazers Out (SE85) (U21241)
posted 2 minutes ago
Last time we lost 9 from our first 17 games we got relegated, although most of those games were league games and we weren't in the European cup.
Not great is it?
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Short termism or long term stability? That is what we must decide.
The same fans who are calling for Eth's head will no doubt will be calling for someone else's head 18 months on!
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Keeping the wrong guy isn't a good plan just to avoid sacking another though.
I'm not saying he's definitely the wrong guy but I honestly can't say with any certainty that he's the right one either. His transfer decisions alone are sackable offences. Antony n Mount for £140m? Lunacy.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Who is responsible for hiring the "wrong guy"? Who is responsible for putting a squad together that will not serve us well over the long term? This is not Eth's doing, he is a small part of the problem. A squad can't be overhauled in 18 months, it can't be overhauled at all if we are constantly chopping and changing managers. Impatient fans do not help, they exacerbate the issue unfortunately.
If we sack Eth, we will be back to square again.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
You keep saying this like he's a brilliant manager and doing nothing wrong. It's mental.
Glazers will always be the biggest issue in my eyes. That's a given.
I don't think ETH is the right guy though. His transfers, his team selections, his subs... basically everything can be questioned.
The real issue is WHO next? That could be his saving grace. Going nowhere with this guy though.
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Do you suffer from amnesia? Did last season not take place? Are you that fickle mate?!
You know perfectly well he is not the main issue.
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Do you remember how that last season went?
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