comment by meltonblue (U10617)
posted 6 minutes ago
“You've basically used more money from your owners own personal wealth than is permitted per year and TBF you've been incredibly creative about how you went to achieve this. “

Please tell me you’re not being serious…?
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Of course he is serious because that's exactly what happened. Oh my days

The PL should never have allowed Abu Dhabi in to start with though. That's where this all went wrong.
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They took the brown envelopes.

comment by Mamba - Come at the King, you best not miss (U1282)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by meltonblue (U10617)
posted 6 minutes ago
“You've basically used more money from your owners own personal wealth than is permitted per year and TBF you've been incredibly creative about how you went to achieve this. “

Please tell me you’re not being serious…?
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Of course he is serious because that's exactly what happened. Oh my days
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Oh that’s brilliant!

comment by meltonblue (U10617)
posted 12 minutes ago
“You've basically used more money from your owners own personal wealth than is permitted per year and TBF you've been incredibly creative about how you went to achieve this. “

Please tell me you’re not being serious…?
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Man City's full list of over 100 FFP charges as Premier League dock Everton points
The Premier League have issued a record-breaking points deduction to Everton while Manchester City stand accused of more than 100 separate Financial Fair Play breaches during the period between the 2009-10 and 2017-18 seasons

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The full list of over 100 alleged Financial Fair Play breaches by Manchester City cover a nine-year period between the 2009-10 and 2017-18 seasons, as outlined in an explosive statement from the Premier League.

Following a four-year investigation into the club, which had been delayed by legal challenges, the league announced that the alleged breaches had been referred to a commission, with City facing a range of possible punishments if found guilty.

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They range from points deductions to even potentially being expelled from the league, although the process is set to be a lengthy one. Meanwhile, Everton have been hit with a record-breaking deduction of 10 points by the Premier League for allegedly breaching the profit and sustainability rules in the 2021/22 campaign.


Man City recently commented on the ongoing investigation into their finances in their annual report. The report states: "On 6 February 2023, in accordance with Premier League Rule W.82.1, the Premier League referred a number of alleged breaches of the Premier League Rules by Manchester City Football Club to a Commission under Premier League Rule W.3.4.


Man City charged by Premier League with numerous breaches of financial rules

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"In February 2023, in response to the charges, the Club issued a public statement that it welcomes the review of this matter by an independent commission, to impartially consider the comprehensive body of irrefutable evidence that exists in support of its position."

All the charges Man City are under investigation for are in the full statement as follows:



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In accordance with Premier League Rule W.82.1, the Premier League confirms that it has referred a number of alleged breaches of the Premier League Rules by Manchester City Football Club ( Club ) to a Commission under Premier League Rule W.3.4.

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Details of the Premier League Rules that the Club is alleged to have breached are as follows:

1. In respect of each of Seasons 2009/10 to 2017/18 inclusive, the Premier League Rules applicable in those seasons that required provision by a member club to the Premier League, in the utmost good faith, of accurate financial information that gives a true and fair view of the club’s financial position, in particular with respect to its revenue (including sponsorship revenue), its related parties and its operating costs, namely:
(a) for Season 2009/10, Premier League Rules B.13, C.71, C.72, C.75 (amended to C.79 from 10 September 2009 for the remainder of Season 2009/10) and C.80;
(b) for Season 2010/11, Premier League Rules B.13, C.78, C.79, C.86 and C.87;
(c) for Season 2011/12, Premier League Rules B.13, E.3, 4, E.11 and E.12;
(d) for Season 2012/13, Premier League Rules 16, E.3, E.4, E.11 and E.12;
(e) for Season 2013/14, Premier League Rules 15, E.3, E.4, E.11, E.12 and E.49;
(f) for Season 2014/15, Premier League Rules 16, E.3, E.4, E.11, E.12 and E.50;
(g) for Season 2015/16, Premier League Rules 16, E.3, E.4, E.11, E.12 and E.50;
(h) for Season 2016/17, Premier League Rules16, E.3, E.4, E.11, E.12 and E.51; and
(i) for Season 2017/18, Premier League Rules B.16, 3, E.4, E.11, E.12 and E.51.


What does that mean then you absolute plank? The PL clearly don't believe you either.

comment by Mamba - Come at the King, you best not miss (U1282)
posted 2 minutes ago
The PL should never have allowed Abu Dhabi in to start with though. That's where this all went wrong.
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They took the brown envelopes.
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You’re accusing your own club of taking brown envelopes now?!

Literally not anything that you said you complete idiot. The PL doesn’t believe me either, what on earth are you going on about?! You said we’ve used more money from our owners than permitted, how on earth does that make any sense whatsoever, what do you think is permitted?! It’s the P&L, not the balance sheet!

That was us just about the revenue and sponsorship deals too.


Then next load of charges relate to not releasing full details of manager and player payments.

City clearly hiding the full details for a very good reason. They dont show you in a good light do they? 😂

You've been very naughty. Time to take the punishment now Melts. You're a Tinpot club. That's all you will ever be.

comment by meltonblue (U10617)
posted 3 minutes ago
Literally not anything that you said you complete idiot. The PL doesn’t believe me either, what on earth are you going on about?! You said we’ve used more money from our owners than permitted, how on earth does that make any sense whatsoever, what do you think is permitted?! It’s the P&L, not the balance sheet!
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You've been hiding the full details of where the money has come from.

It states specifically on manager and player payments too on the next set of charges.

Where has that money come from if not your owner?

comment by Glazers Out (SE85) (U21241)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by meltonblue (U10617)
posted 3 minutes ago
Literally not anything that you said you complete idiot. The PL doesn’t believe me either, what on earth are you going on about?! You said we’ve used more money from our owners than permitted, how on earth does that make any sense whatsoever, what do you think is permitted?! It’s the P&L, not the balance sheet!
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You've been hiding the full details of where the money has come from.

It states specifically on manager and player payments too on the next set of charges.

Where has that money come from if not your owner?
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That’s not what you said, you said we put more in than permitted from our owner. You even said we could have just grown organically by him putting 90m a year in. I’ll repeat, how much do you think is permitted on a P&L?!

Also where did you get Brian Marwood being all over it from?

The club may well be guilty, you don’t clearly even understand the basics though and yet are confident to say for definite we’re guilty.

I’m not getting into arguing whether we are or not as I’ve said all along, none of us have the details to be able to do that. I’ll do exactly what I did with the CAS judgment and wait for the evidence to come out. That you can’t do that, despite it not even being the club you support, says a lot more about you than me. If we’re found guilty, then I’ll be a lot more annoyed with our owners than you will be.

comment by Glazers Out (SE85) (U21241)
posted 1 hour, 55 minutes ago
City haven't done anything wrong though guys remember......there's nothing to worry about.

😂😂😂
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Most of the charges relates to pre 2014 when City were fined for breaking FFP.
City has not failed FFP ever since. Even the hacked emails related to between 2009 and 2013. So fans calling City cheats and bleating about tainted titles etc should have that in mind.

comment by Glazers Out (SE85) (U21241)
posted 54 minutes ago
That was us just about the revenue and sponsorship deals too.


Then next load of charges relate to not releasing full details of manager and player payments.

City clearly hiding the full details for a very good reason. They dont show you in a good light do they? 😂

You've been very naughty. Time to take the punishment now Melts. You're a Tinpot club. That's all you will ever be.
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Money paid to Mancini by Al Jazira was £1.7m before he joined City. So you think this amount is worth hiding from the PL?
Etisalat sponsorship deal was £15m per year. This deal was not looked at in the CAS case because it was time barred. The PL think it’s disguised equity funding. If Etisalat can provide evidence that the money came from them, then I don’t know how the PL will state otherwise.
Third issue relates to image rights. Again, City stated this publicly in their account. If the PL punishes City for this, then expect many PL clubs to go under as well.

mancini,
Why do you care about Everton's problems. Is City maybe next in line??

comment by Globaled (U7198)
posted 33 minutes ago
mancini,
Why do you care about Everton's problems. Is City maybe next in line??
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United cannot be fined for breaking FFP while Everton gets a 10 points deduction.
The PL should be consistent about its own rules.

comment by mancini (U7179)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Globaled (U7198)
posted 33 minutes ago
mancini,
Why do you care about Everton's problems. Is City maybe next in line??
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United cannot be fined for breaking FFP while Everton gets a 10 points deduction.
The PL should be consistent about its own rules.
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Yeah but we own the PL, we can make up our own rules

comment by mancini (U7179)
posted 1 hour, 30 minutes ago
comment by Globaled (U7198)
posted 33 minutes ago
mancini,
Why do you care about Everton's problems. Is City maybe next in line??
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United cannot be fined for breaking FFP while Everton gets a 10 points deduction.
The PL should be consistent about its own rules.
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Did United break PL FFP rules?