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posted on 23/11/23

comment by -bloodred- (U1222)
posted 23 minutes ago
comment by Peks Habsburg ES AT (U6618)
posted 3 hours, 36 minutes ago
comment by HB Maybe Beale wasn't the mastermind (U21935)
posted 14 hours, 2 minutes ago
This is becoming a big issue in Irish politics.

I'm not all over the details but it seems a lot of Irish have reached tipping point. I seen Ireland is full trending on twitter and loads of videos about them sneaking refugees in during the night, violence from them (not specifically Ukrainians) on locals is getting a lot of traction too.

Much like over here, we need to do our bit but the moderate politicians need to draw the line somewhere or the right will garner huge swells of support on this issue alone.

I'd like to see immigration caps on unskilled immigrants and those numbers be really low for a few years. Think most of Western Europe needs that now or the right will rise dangerously further.
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total agree with this
what is happening throughout western europe is population replacement and with it culture replacement

governments should be giving financial incentives to native Brits/Irish to have families and >2 kids

I have less problem with immigration from other European countries though

Far better Ukrainians than Muslims from N Africa or wherever or Sub Saharan Africans

Enough is enough .... extremely few people actually want this mass migration ...it's undemocratic
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Are you still going to deny that you are a racist?
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you're confusing race with culture

European immigrants are preferable because they come from the same European/Christian cultural background

posted on 23/11/23

comment by Peks Habsburg ES AT (U6618)
posted 13 minutes ago
comment by -bloodred- (U1222)
posted 23 minutes ago
comment by Peks Habsburg ES AT (U6618)
posted 3 hours, 36 minutes ago
comment by HB Maybe Beale wasn't the mastermind (U21935)
posted 14 hours, 2 minutes ago
This is becoming a big issue in Irish politics.

I'm not all over the details but it seems a lot of Irish have reached tipping point. I seen Ireland is full trending on twitter and loads of videos about them sneaking refugees in during the night, violence from them (not specifically Ukrainians) on locals is getting a lot of traction too.

Much like over here, we need to do our bit but the moderate politicians need to draw the line somewhere or the right will garner huge swells of support on this issue alone.

I'd like to see immigration caps on unskilled immigrants and those numbers be really low for a few years. Think most of Western Europe needs that now or the right will rise dangerously further.
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total agree with this
what is happening throughout western europe is population replacement and with it culture replacement

governments should be giving financial incentives to native Brits/Irish to have families and >2 kids

I have less problem with immigration from other European countries though

Far better Ukrainians than Muslims from N Africa or wherever or Sub Saharan Africans

Enough is enough .... extremely few people actually want this mass migration ...it's undemocratic
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Are you still going to deny that you are a racist?
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you're confusing race with culture

European immigrants are preferable because they come from the same European/Christian cultural background
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Yeah, sure. White South Africans are cool though I'm guessing

posted on 23/11/23

comment by Peks Habsburg ES AT (U6618)
posted 54 minutes ago
comment by -bloodred- (U1222)
posted 23 minutes ago
comment by Peks Habsburg ES AT (U6618)
posted 3 hours, 36 minutes ago
comment by HB Maybe Beale wasn't the mastermind (U21935)
posted 14 hours, 2 minutes ago
This is becoming a big issue in Irish politics.

I'm not all over the details but it seems a lot of Irish have reached tipping point. I seen Ireland is full trending on twitter and loads of videos about them sneaking refugees in during the night, violence from them (not specifically Ukrainians) on locals is getting a lot of traction too.

Much like over here, we need to do our bit but the moderate politicians need to draw the line somewhere or the right will garner huge swells of support on this issue alone.

I'd like to see immigration caps on unskilled immigrants and those numbers be really low for a few years. Think most of Western Europe needs that now or the right will rise dangerously further.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
total agree with this
what is happening throughout western europe is population replacement and with it culture replacement

governments should be giving financial incentives to native Brits/Irish to have families and >2 kids

I have less problem with immigration from other European countries though

Far better Ukrainians than Muslims from N Africa or wherever or Sub Saharan Africans

Enough is enough .... extremely few people actually want this mass migration ...it's undemocratic
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Are you still going to deny that you are a racist?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
you're confusing race with culture

European immigrants are preferable because they come from the same European/Christian cultural background
----------------------------------------------------------------------

Shut up you stupid racist caaaant.

posted on 23/11/23

the soundtrack to peks' life:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QsOpkgaQ2jk

posted on 23/11/23

i'll stop posting on this thread now

clearly getting out of hand again

posted on 23/11/23

Before you go though. White South Africans. Let em in or nah?

posted on 23/11/23

comment by -bloodred- (U1222)
posted 40 minutes ago
Before you go though. White South Africans. Let em in or nah?
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culturally they are European, and actually quite similar to Brits (most are of British and/or Dutch descent)

So yes ofcourse

posted on 23/11/23

comment by Peks Habsburg ES AT (U6618)
posted 11 minutes ago
comment by -bloodred- (U1222)
posted 40 minutes ago
Before you go though. White South Africans. Let em in or nah?
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culturally they are European, and actually quite similar to Brits (most are of British and/or Dutch descent)

So yes ofcourse
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People who discriminate based in race are racists.

People who discriminate based on culture are?

I don't know what they call them but they're just as bad as racists in my book.

posted on 23/11/23

comment by Igòr; League 1, you’ve being Warne-D πŸπŸ€πŸ–€ (U22200)
posted 13 hours, 43 minutes ago
The amount of young Ukrainian men in Ireland is unreal, I thought they were suppose to stay put and fight and it was the children, women and elderly that would be cared for as refugees.
They are on the the pigs back getting over €200 a week and free accommodation and food and yet kicked up a huge fuss when they’ve being asked to after months to contribute to the economy yet not many of them have not even looked for work but the ones that I’ve being able to converse with have zero interest in going back.
This crap is really going to get ugly because I’m only tipping the ice berg how bad it’s going.
But when you have the government we have, look after others but crap on your own.
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This. I feel more and more people are beginning to pick up on this.

posted on 23/11/23

comment by The Process (U20671)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Igòr; League 1, you’ve being Warne-D πŸπŸ€πŸ–€ (U22200)
posted 13 hours, 43 minutes ago
The amount of young Ukrainian men in Ireland is unreal, I thought they were suppose to stay put and fight and it was the children, women and elderly that would be cared for as refugees.
They are on the the pigs back getting over €200 a week and free accommodation and food and yet kicked up a huge fuss when they’ve being asked to after months to contribute to the economy yet not many of them have not even looked for work but the ones that I’ve being able to converse with have zero interest in going back.
This crap is really going to get ugly because I’m only tipping the ice berg how bad it’s going.
But when you have the government we have, look after others but crap on your own.
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This. I feel more and more people are beginning to pick up on this.
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People have been "picking up on this" for a long time. It's one of the reasons we had Boris Johnson and Brexit. Weird how you are acting like you just noticed.

posted on 23/11/23

comment by Mamba - Come at the King, you best not miss (U1282)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by The Process (U20671)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Igòr; League 1, you’ve being Warne-D πŸπŸ€πŸ–€ (U22200)
posted 13 hours, 43 minutes ago
The amount of young Ukrainian men in Ireland is unreal, I thought they were suppose to stay put and fight and it was the children, women and elderly that would be cared for as refugees.
They are on the the pigs back getting over €200 a week and free accommodation and food and yet kicked up a huge fuss when they’ve being asked to after months to contribute to the economy yet not many of them have not even looked for work but the ones that I’ve being able to converse with have zero interest in going back.
This crap is really going to get ugly because I’m only tipping the ice berg how bad it’s going.
But when you have the government we have, look after others but crap on your own.
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This. I feel more and more people are beginning to pick up on this.
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People have been "picking up on this" for a long time. It's one of the reasons we had Boris Johnson and Brexit. Weird how you are acting like you just noticed.
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I was referring to Ireland.

posted on 23/11/23

comment by Peks Habsburg ES AT (U6618)
posted 24 minutes ago
comment by -bloodred- (U1222)
posted 40 minutes ago
Before you go though. White South Africans. Let em in or nah?
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culturally they are European, and actually quite similar to Brits (most are of British and/or Dutch descent)

So yes ofcourse
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OK. So just to be clear, we don't want any sub Saharan Africans unless they are white is what you've basically said on this thread.

You're not racist though, definitely not.

posted on 23/11/23

White South Africans are culturally South African.

posted on 23/11/23

culturally they are European
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What exactly does this even mean btw? Can you define that statement in any tangible way?

posted on 23/11/23

comment by Red Russian (U4715)
posted 23 hours, 19 minutes ago
comment by Sat Nav (U18243)
posted 27 minutes ago
comment by Red Russian (U4715)
posted 16 minutes ago
comment by Busby (U19985)
posted 43 minutes ago
You’re a Tory mug
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There's no call for this kind of name calling
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I assumed he was joking.

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Whereas I was being very serious
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Did you take umbridge to Tory..or mug

Am I still filtered by you BTW...never did get to the bottom of that...?

Not that it matters...just wondered

posted on 23/11/23

comment by -bloodred- (U1222)
posted 3 hours, 29 minutes ago
comment by Peks Habsburg ES AT (U6618)
posted 24 minutes ago
comment by -bloodred- (U1222)
posted 40 minutes ago
Before you go though. White South Africans. Let em in or nah?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
culturally they are European, and actually quite similar to Brits (most are of British and/or Dutch descent)

So yes ofcourse
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OK. So just to be clear, we don't want any sub Saharan Africans unless they are white is what you've basically said on this thread.

You're not racist though, definitely not.
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A large proportion of 51% of the UK is racist...it's why so many voted brexit...many thought we were just going to shut the gates & throw all foreigners out and say no to straight bananas

posted on 23/11/23

if you think being racist is wanting to severely restrict immigration, especially from peoples and cultures very different to europe you're a fool

your descendants will despise you for what you've willingly allowed to happen to Britain/Western Europe

posted on 23/11/23

A non national stabs 5 people in Dublin today, two teachers and 3 children in broad daylight, injuries unknown as yet as it’s so recent and yet that idiot mamba asks , how is it going to get ugly.

posted on 23/11/23

comment by Igòr; League 1, you’ve being Warne-D πŸπŸ€πŸ–€ (U22200)
posted 41 minutes ago
A non national stabs 5 people in Dublin today, two teachers and 3 children in broad daylight, injuries unknown as yet as it’s so recent and yet that idiot mamba asks , how is it going to get ugly.


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Of course I do. You're extremely stoopid. Tories like idiots like you.

Whereas this is a bad incident, most stabbings are committed by nationals, by far, very far. They just don't make the news.

When it's a Muslim it's plastered all over. I'd say a national is like 100 times more likely to stab you than a Muslim, but you're still worried about the Muslim. Ask yourself why.

As I've explained throughout the thread, isolated rare incidents used to panic the whole country against a whole other religion and brown people. And they keep falling for it, the geniuses.

posted on 23/11/23

comment by Peks Habsburg ES AT (U6618)
posted 1 hour, 14 minutes ago
if you think being racist is wanting to severely restrict immigration, especially from peoples and cultures very different to europe you're a fool

your descendants will despise you for what you've willingly allowed to happen to Britain/Western Europe
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I wouldn't say it's necessarily racist. Though every racist would support that policy.. but it is definitely moronic. Both economically and culturally, immigration is a huge benefit to the UK and indeed most countries.

Of course there's downsides like there is with everything, and there's a few bad people in amongst the good or normal. But you only have to look at the numbers to see why immigration is encouraged around the world. It's what makes things work. It's what stops nations becoming insular, inbread, backwaters.

Basically, you want people in your community that are really motivated to make their lives better. Don't you? For sure, some gammon hammering at his keyboard about how nothing should change isn't going to drive your economy, invent the next battery technology, or even have an interesting discussion with their neighbour.

posted on 23/11/23

comment by Bãleš left boot (U22081)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Peks Habsburg ES AT (U6618)
posted 1 hour, 14 minutes ago
if you think being racist is wanting to severely restrict immigration, especially from peoples and cultures very different to europe you're a fool

your descendants will despise you for what you've willingly allowed to happen to Britain/Western Europe
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I wouldn't say it's necessarily racist. Though every racist would support that policy.. but it is definitely moronic. Both economically and culturally, immigration is a huge benefit to the UK and indeed most countries.

Of course there's downsides like there is with everything, and there's a few bad people in amongst the good or normal. But you only have to look at the numbers to see why immigration is encouraged around the world. It's what makes things work. It's what stops nations becoming insular, inbread, backwaters.

Basically, you want people in your community that are really motivated to make their lives better. Don't you? For sure, some gammon hammering at his keyboard about how nothing should change isn't going to drive your economy, invent the next battery technology, or even have an interesting discussion with their neighbour.
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You're explaining things to a person who doesn't have the capacity to grasp them. If he had the capacity you wouldn't need to explain.

posted on 23/11/23

The world is where it is because of migration. Without it we start regressing. It takes some mental effort and wider knowledge to understand how and why this is the case, which some people just don't have.

posted on 23/11/23

Peks' brown-skinned, cosmopolitan, tolerant descendents will be embarrassed by his social media history when the AI family tree research service tells the story of their ancestors.

posted on 23/11/23

You're explaining things to a person who doesn't have the capacity to grasp them. If he had the capacity you wouldn't need to explain
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You're right of course but it felt good to do it anyway. You don't want readers stumbling across this thinking 'this guy is right, he's saying what we're all thinking'.

posted on 23/11/23

comment by Peks Habsburg ES AT (U6618)
posted 2 hours ago
if you think being racist is wanting to severely restrict immigration, especially from peoples and cultures very different to europe you're a fool

your descendants will despise you for what you've willingly allowed to happen to Britain/Western Europe
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Yeah, you're right, Pekerhead.
Too bad nobody thought about that when your dad came over.

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