It wouldn't have been given if it was PSG player. Just how things go. Its like the womens champions league. Both Madrid teams get everything in the favour at home. even things that are laughable.
Refs are bias, just like most of ours in this league,. untrustworthy

I bet if that penalty had been given to an English club, you would not have heard a peep outrage from the media.

Non penalty for me, but the English media are such hypocrites with their outrage, over a decision that would not have been mentioned had it been for Newcastle.

Just for the record, United got a very soft pen given in injury time in Paris against PSG a few years back to win the tie 1-3 and knock the home side out

I have no idea what the rules are from one season to another.

I remember us (Spurs) being given one at West Ham a few years ago that was reversed after the ref viewed the monitor because the ball hit the defenders face before the arm so I just assumed that VAR would say no pen as last night it clearly hit the players body before the arm.

Has the rule changed?

comment by RB&W - One man down, One nil up (U21434)
posted 9 hours, 34 minutes ago
Barcodes were cheated
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Someone should have scanned the incident

That was a tough break for Newcastle!

However it’s understood that Liverpool have demanded the game should be replayed!

comment by bestoftherest2021 (U22523)
posted 2 hours, 10 minutes ago
It wouldn't have been given if it was PSG player. Just how things go. Its like the womens champions league. Both Madrid teams get everything in the favour at home. even things that are laughable.
Refs are bias, just like most of ours in this league,. untrustworthy
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Do you think that might be because the bribes are actually paid for by the local government?

Tough call, LOL though at Shearers meltdown.

There was a bribing culture, not even hidden among referees in the 1990's. It could still be happening to this day although you'd expect it to be far more subtle.

Skip to 33 minutes, in the video to hear a former ref essentially admitting to taking bribes (think bribing the section is about ten minutes long if not longer, I haven't watched it in a long time)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4HVYcY7t0Eg&t=910s&ab_channel=UnderTheCosh

*of course they'll claim that just because they accepted this "special" hospitality it had no bearing over their decision making. Just like when FIFA officials receive all those special gifts from countries bidding for world cups the definitely never swayed decisions on who gets the award...

There was a bribing culture, not even hidden among referees in the 1990's. It could still be happening to this day although you'd expect it to be far more subtle.

Skip to 33 minutes, in the video to hear a former ref essentially admitting to taking bribes (think the bribing section is about ten minutes long if not longer, I haven't watched it in a long time)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4HVYcY7t0Eg&t=910s&ab_channel=UnderTheCosh

*of course they'll claim that just because they accepted this "special" hospitality it had no bearing over their decision making. Just like when FIFA officials receive all those special gifts from countries bidding for world cups the definitely never swayed decisions on who gets the award...

It's the correct decision as per the rules as they're different in European competitions, so this is one of the rare instances where VAR has actually done its job properly.

Now whether that rule is horrendous is a different conversation.

comment by The Welsh Xavi (U15412)
posted 18 minutes ago
It's the correct decision as per the rules as they're different in European competitions, so this is one of the rare instances where VAR has actually done its job properly.

Now whether that rule is horrendous is a different conversation.
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Still raises issue there was another potential Newcastle handball, arguably more blatant than the one given, reviewed by VAR and felt no handball

comment by The Welsh Xavi (U15412)
posted 1 hour, 9 minutes ago
It's the correct decision as per the rules as they're different in European competitions, so this is one of the rare instances where VAR has actually done its job properly.

Now whether that rule is horrendous is a different conversation.
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This would appear not to be the case according to the BBC who have stated that UEFA have stood down the VAR official on the incident.

Any ideas I wonder what the Parisien papers are saying about it !

Worst decision since 7 clubs voted on allowing Newcastle to loan players from the Saudi league.

I was devastated for the Bar codes last night, devastated

comment by Striketeam7 - There used to be a football club over there (U18109)
posted 2 seconds ago
Worst decision since 7 clubs voted on allowing Newcastle to loan players from the Saudi league.

I was devastated for the Bar codes last night, devastated
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It shows the one issue that will always remain with VAR. Human error and how any one specific individual interprets the written law.

Now, if that is the written law, and Manchester United were told it was last season with the Martinez penalty, then this was a penalty. The fact UEFA now think it shouldn’t have been one really does beg the question.

comment by Vidicschin (U3584)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by Striketeam7 - There used to be a football club over there (U18109)
posted 2 seconds ago
Worst decision since 7 clubs voted on allowing Newcastle to loan players from the Saudi league.

I was devastated for the Bar codes last night, devastated
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It shows the one issue that will always remain with VAR. Human error and how any one specific individual interprets the written law.

Now, if that is the written law, and Manchester United were told it was last season with the Martinez penalty, then this was a penalty. The fact UEFA now think it shouldn’t have been one really does beg the question.

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You want to see the penalty the Bar codes got against us back in 2020 - last minute of the match, Wilson heads the ball towards goal, Dier has jumped and has his back to Wilson and the ball, the ball hits his arm and the ref gives a pen.

Absolutely laughed my head off with that decision last night, been waiting on them to get a schitty one in similar circumstances and it’s finally happened - shoe on other foot and they don’t like it - faaack em

comment by The Welsh Xavi (U15412)
posted 3 hours, 24 minutes ago
It's the correct decision as per the rules as they're different in European competitions, so this is one of the rare instances where VAR has actually done its job properly
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Errrr! You’d better rethink that statement!

comment by Vidicschin (U3584)
posted 1 hour, 19 minutes ago
comment by The Welsh Xavi (U15412)
posted 1 hour, 9 minutes ago
It's the correct decision as per the rules as they're different in European competitions, so this is one of the rare instances where VAR has actually done its job properly.

Now whether that rule is horrendous is a different conversation.
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This would appear not to be the case according to the BBC who have stated that UEFA have stood down the VAR official on the incident.
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Yeah saw that, stand corrected. Went off what Dale Johnson said who usually knows the laws inside out.

There's that many changes to the handball law these days though I have no idea how anyone is expected to keep up.

comment by The Welsh Xavi (U15412)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Vidicschin (U3584)
posted 1 hour, 19 minutes ago
comment by The Welsh Xavi (U15412)
posted 1 hour, 9 minutes ago
It's the correct decision as per the rules as they're different in European competitions, so this is one of the rare instances where VAR has actually done its job properly.

Now whether that rule is horrendous is a different conversation.
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This would appear not to be the case according to the BBC who have stated that UEFA have stood down the VAR official on the incident.
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Yeah saw that, stand corrected. Went off what Dale Johnson said who usually knows the laws inside out.

There's that many changes to the handball law these days though I have no idea how anyone is expected to keep up.
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No worries. We were told it was the correct decision last year. This imo, is double standards by UEFA, which comes as no surprise to me at all.

Fack them both, state owned shiiiiit just like city.

That was not a hand ball if you go by the letter of the letter because A) it wasn’t intentional B) the distance was so small that there was zero thinking time and the most crucial in this instance C) the hand was in a natural position for the situation.

Staggering how the VAR ref faaacked that one up, I only do grass roots football and I could have got that right in real time

The handball rule really needs to change anyway. Should be only be punished if it is blatantly deliberate or if the ball has come from far enough away for the player to move their arm out of the way e.g. McTominay va Sheff Utd.

comment by The Process (U20671)
posted 1 hour, 57 minutes ago
The handball rule really needs to change anyway. Should be only be punished if it is blatantly deliberate or if the ball has come from far enough away for the player to move their arm out of the way e.g. McTominay va Sheff Utd.
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I agree, I don’t remember any real controversy when the rule was it is only handball if deemed intentional - just go back to that, makes the refs job much easier and we won’t get as many bat schitt decisions.

They are killing the game with all this added complexity

comment by Striketeam7 - There used to be a football club over there (U18109)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by The Process (U20671)
posted 1 hour, 57 minutes ago
The handball rule really needs to change anyway. Should be only be punished if it is blatantly deliberate or if the ball has come from far enough away for the player to move their arm out of the way e.g. McTominay va Sheff Utd.
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I agree, I don’t remember any real controversy when the rule was it is only handball if deemed intentional - just go back to that, makes the refs job much easier and we won’t get as many bat schitt decisions.

They are killing the game with all this added complexity
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This unnatural position nonsense does my head. What may be an unnatural position in everyday life may not be an unnatural position on the football pitch.