when you getting presented with the trophy for that?

comment by JFK (U8919)
posted 3 minutes ago
when you getting presented with the trophy for that?


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Just now 😎

Celtics team last season and the season before had some great players who were more than capable of performing well in Europe

comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 2 hours, 37 minutes ago
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posted 2 hours, 8 minutes ago
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posted 1 hour, 39 minutes ago
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posted 12 minutes ago
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posted 31 minutes ago
comment by puyolsnohadahaircut (U6410)
posted 1 day ago
The other teams have internationally players except players like griezman etc are better than kyogo etc.

Rangers as well got shown up big style last time in champions league.

Sadly both scottish glasgow teams are europa league status.
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That’s nonsense Celtic have been consistently better than us in the league for years, but we’ve consistently better than them in Europe. We’ve somehow stepped up while Celtic have done the opposite. Our record at home in Europe is outstanding.

Last year in CL was a horror show but daft to pull that as an example given a lot of the injuries we had for a start, and a lot of CL clubs that we’ve done well against in last few years.
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So it's daft to reference last season when you were guff, but it's ok to mention your run to the EL final?

Ok then.
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not entirely, there is some merit to it but its not the outlier.

Uefa have us ranked as the 29th best team in europe, whilst celtic are 54th. Its wrong to use one season as our level when the previous 4 before it we have done very well in europe. I mean if you exclude last seasons european results then we were almost in the top 20 ranked clubs in europe which is very impressive given the leage we are in.

For eg there is no teams ranked above rangers out with the bigger leagues, no team from a lesser ranked european competition are ranked higher than rangers. we punch above our weight.

Its harder to compare the two teams fairly however given that you have been in champ league more than us.
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When accounting for those rankings you have to consider one team is playing regular CL football and the other EL football, so have more chances at picking up coefficient points.
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yes this is the point I have been making said it plenty of times, its RenegadeOF that is dismissing it.
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My bad 😂

I would have loved to have Jota and Kyogo in the Europa final team

we're humped in europe, our manager is a tlt that thinks holding the ball is more important than scoring.

Been very unlucky this season in europe.

Far better performances that deserved better results.

it's not unlucky, we didn't prepare properly and went in with a poor squad.

we got exactly what we deserved, as we do for hiring a manager that unbelievably phish in the champions league and expecting different.

comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 1 hour, 10 minutes ago
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posted 16 minutes ago
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posted 2 hours, 8 minutes ago
comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 1 hour, 39 minutes ago
comment by JukeboxJunkie (U10162)
posted 12 minutes ago
comment by RenegadeOF (U9457)
posted 31 minutes ago
comment by puyolsnohadahaircut (U6410)
posted 1 day ago
The other teams have internationally players except players like griezman etc are better than kyogo etc.

Rangers as well got shown up big style last time in champions league.

Sadly both scottish glasgow teams are europa league status.
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That’s nonsense Celtic have been consistently better than us in the league for years, but we’ve consistently better than them in Europe. We’ve somehow stepped up while Celtic have done the opposite. Our record at home in Europe is outstanding.

Last year in CL was a horror show but daft to pull that as an example given a lot of the injuries we had for a start, and a lot of CL clubs that we’ve done well against in last few years.
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So it's daft to reference last season when you were guff, but it's ok to mention your run to the EL final?

Ok then.
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not entirely, there is some merit to it but its not the outlier.

Uefa have us ranked as the 29th best team in europe, whilst celtic are 54th. Its wrong to use one season as our level when the previous 4 before it we have done very well in europe. I mean if you exclude last seasons european results then we were almost in the top 20 ranked clubs in europe which is very impressive given the leage we are in.

For eg there is no teams ranked above rangers out with the bigger leagues, no team from a lesser ranked european competition are ranked higher than rangers. we punch above our weight.

Its harder to compare the two teams fairly however given that you have been in champ league more than us.
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When accounting for those rankings you have to consider one team is playing regular CL football and the other EL football, so have more chances at picking up coefficient points.
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yes this is the point I have been making said it plenty of times, its RenegadeOF that is dismissing it.
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We’ve played in the same competition in 5 of the last 6 years. The idea Celtic have played in the CL regularly is a nonsense, two years out of last six.

And whodunnit, you literally said ‘no cos’ when I asked the question of whether you could compare two teams playing in the same competition 5 out of six years. You can exclude this season then and have a fair comparison

We punch above our weight in Europe, Celtic the opposite, that’s clear.
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like I said you can use the last 6 years if you want.... Im using the info that uefa use and thats the last 5 years. im sure most could go through the entire history and pull out a time period that fits their point. Im using the period of time that most use and uefa use.

in that time 40% of the time celtic have been in the CL compared to our 20%. Id say almost half of the time can be described as regular, if you dont thats ok.


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If you use Uefa’s official points that is the last six really as the points for this season aren’t final…

comment by Timmy (U14278)
posted 12 seconds ago
Been very unlucky this season in europe.

Far better performances that deserved better results.
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It was a really tough group tbf

comment by JFK (U8919)
posted 26 seconds ago
it's not unlucky, we didn't prepare properly and went in with a poor squad.

we got exactly what we deserved, as we do for hiring a manager that unbelievably phish in the champions league and expecting different.


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Agree with that. It's also obvious that Ange was getting far more out of some players. It seems crazy to pay Rodgers salary and not properly invest in the squad to compete in Europe. There's no need to push the boat out to compete domestically

he's not worth the salary, any idiot manager can go in there and tell players don't commit, keep the ball by passing it about the back 4, and then get f...ed in europe.

we are vastly overpaying for his capabilities.

comment by Mummy's Hairy Growler (U10045)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by JFK (U8919)
posted 26 seconds ago
it's not unlucky, we didn't prepare properly and went in with a poor squad.

we got exactly what we deserved, as we do for hiring a manager that unbelievably phish in the champions league and expecting different.


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Agree with that. It's also obvious that Ange was getting far more out of some players. It seems crazy to pay Rodgers salary and not properly invest in the squad to compete in Europe. There's no need to push the boat out to compete domestically
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Disagree. Wouldn't give him the money either 🤣

We are crap in Europe because of us. Run properly, we'd have more than 1 point. Back to signing 2m players when it wasn't good enough 10 years ago. Pay 9 for Edouard, get 15, even though he was a lazy bassa. 6.5 for Jota, get 25. I know he is an exception, but buying better players brings in better money. Not difficult to figure out why.

We should be doing better

It would have been interesting to see how Celtic would have done in the Europa league this season. It was a really tough group in the CL and Feyenoord are playing well at moment which meant Celtic having to beat Lazio at home in order to have any chance of falling into the Europa

this chat that he would be better with quality, i reiterate my point, he got 4 million for ntcham and 9 for edouard and we still passed the ball boringly around the back 4.

ange got a tune out of taylor, out of ralston.

the problem starts way before the players.

comment by Why the pallaver, aka Count Binface (a little more apathetic) (U10168)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Mummy's Hairy Growler (U10045)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by JFK (U8919)
posted 26 seconds ago
it's not unlucky, we didn't prepare properly and went in with a poor squad.

we got exactly what we deserved, as we do for hiring a manager that unbelievably phish in the champions league and expecting different.


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Agree with that. It's also obvious that Ange was getting far more out of some players. It seems crazy to pay Rodgers salary and not properly invest in the squad to compete in Europe. There's no need to push the boat out to compete domestically
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Disagree. Wouldn't give him the money either 🤣

We are crap in Europe because of us. Run properly, we'd have more than 1 point. Back to signing 2m players when it wasn't good enough 10 years ago. Pay 9 for Edouard, get 15, even though he was a lazy bassa. 6.5 for Jota, get 25. I know he is an exception, but buying better players brings in better money. Not difficult to figure out why.

We should be doing better
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If you're not going to give him the money then what was the point in bringing him back? He must be on double or triple Ange was getting paid

comment by JFK (U8919)
posted 44 seconds ago
this chat that he would be better with quality, i reiterate my point, he got 4 million for ntcham and 9 for edouard and we still passed the ball boringly around the back 4.

ange got a tune out of taylor, out of ralston.

the problem starts way before the players.
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Ange didn't do well in Europe either though and that team was playing well and had some players that would play in most of the 2nd tier teams in Europe

CCV, Mcgregor, Jota and Kyogo is a spine of a team that should be able to compete

comment by Mummy's Hairy Growler (U10045)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by JFK (U8919)
posted 44 seconds ago
this chat that he would be better with quality, i reiterate my point, he got 4 million for ntcham and 9 for edouard and we still passed the ball boringly around the back 4.

ange got a tune out of taylor, out of ralston.

the problem starts way before the players.
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Ange didn't do well in Europe either though and that team was playing well and had some players that would play in most of the 2nd tier teams in Europe
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But he was improving mate, and started out with a disorganised mess. Rodgers took over a team making progress and wasted it, in combination with the board. The Celtic way, unfortunately

comment by Mummy's Hairy Growler (U10045)
posted 4 minutes ago
CCV, Mcgregor, Jota and Kyogo is a spine of a team that should be able to compete
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100% agree, although Jota is obviously away, but assume you mean last year. I think we showed last year, that we were on the right track

And just to add, he had a record in Europe with Liverpool just as bad as with us. Not a coincidence, that's the manager

There wasn't any improvement in terms of progressing through competitions. Celtics squad was far better than the Rangers squad that made the Europa final. Rangers had improved the previous seasons too which should have been a benchmark for how both teams should be capable of performing.

I wonder if there is a dismissal of the Europa league within celtic like there is down south. Tbh id much rather Rangers went into the Europa league now because the enjoyment over the last few years has been great. I'm not interested in getting beaten in the CL group stages

comment by RenegadeOF (U9457)
posted 41 minutes ago
comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 1 hour, 10 minutes ago
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posted 16 minutes ago
comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 1 hour, 9 minutes ago
comment by JukeboxJunkie (U10162)
posted 2 hours, 8 minutes ago
comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 1 hour, 39 minutes ago
comment by JukeboxJunkie (U10162)
posted 12 minutes ago
comment by RenegadeOF (U9457)
posted 31 minutes ago
comment by puyolsnohadahaircut (U6410)
posted 1 day ago
The other teams have internationally players except players like griezman etc are better than kyogo etc.

Rangers as well got shown up big style last time in champions league.

Sadly both scottish glasgow teams are europa league status.
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That’s nonsense Celtic have been consistently better than us in the league for years, but we’ve consistently better than them in Europe. We’ve somehow stepped up while Celtic have done the opposite. Our record at home in Europe is outstanding.

Last year in CL was a horror show but daft to pull that as an example given a lot of the injuries we had for a start, and a lot of CL clubs that we’ve done well against in last few years.
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So it's daft to reference last season when you were guff, but it's ok to mention your run to the EL final?

Ok then.
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not entirely, there is some merit to it but its not the outlier.

Uefa have us ranked as the 29th best team in europe, whilst celtic are 54th. Its wrong to use one season as our level when the previous 4 before it we have done very well in europe. I mean if you exclude last seasons european results then we were almost in the top 20 ranked clubs in europe which is very impressive given the leage we are in.

For eg there is no teams ranked above rangers out with the bigger leagues, no team from a lesser ranked european competition are ranked higher than rangers. we punch above our weight.

Its harder to compare the two teams fairly however given that you have been in champ league more than us.
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When accounting for those rankings you have to consider one team is playing regular CL football and the other EL football, so have more chances at picking up coefficient points.
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yes this is the point I have been making said it plenty of times, its RenegadeOF that is dismissing it.
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We’ve played in the same competition in 5 of the last 6 years. The idea Celtic have played in the CL regularly is a nonsense, two years out of last six.

And whodunnit, you literally said ‘no cos’ when I asked the question of whether you could compare two teams playing in the same competition 5 out of six years. You can exclude this season then and have a fair comparison

We punch above our weight in Europe, Celtic the opposite, that’s clear.
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like I said you can use the last 6 years if you want.... Im using the info that uefa use and thats the last 5 years. im sure most could go through the entire history and pull out a time period that fits their point. Im using the period of time that most use and uefa use.

in that time 40% of the time celtic have been in the CL compared to our 20%. Id say almost half of the time can be described as regular, if you dont thats ok.


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If you use Uefa’s official points that is the last six really as the points for this season aren’t final…
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no, if you go onto their site they include this years as part of the last 5 years...

https://www.uefa.com/nationalassociations/uefarankings/club/#/yr/2024

comment by Mummy's Hairy Growler (U10045)
posted 1 minute ago
There wasn't any improvement in terms of progressing through competitions. Celtics squad was far better than the Rangers squad that made the Europa final. Rangers had improved the previous seasons too which should have been a benchmark for how both teams should be capable of performing.

I wonder if there is a dismissal of the Europa league within celtic like there is down south. Tbh id much rather Rangers went into the Europa league now because the enjoyment over the last few years has been great. I'm not interested in getting beaten in the CL group stages
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I hear what you're saying, but watching, we were definitely making inroads imo. It was the CL. A couple of reasonable additions, we would probably have improved on our 2 points last season instead of down to 1. Remains to be seen maybe, but I think Ange is a better manager than Rodgers.

comment by Why the pallaver, aka Count Binface (a little more apathetic) (U10168)
posted 5 minutes ago
And just to add, he had a record in Europe with Liverpool just as bad as with us. Not a coincidence, that's the manager
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Did fvck all in Europe with Leicester n'all