comment by Silver (U6112)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by MaHeed'sNippin aka I’m the competent Wullie Collum (U3633)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Zico - Celtic Treble Winners 22/23 (U21900)
posted 5 seconds ago
We need to play Calmac as an AM. With MOR and Iwata/Holm as DM. He's wasted as a DM.
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Yes I agree. We need a DM in the mould of Broonie to sit in front of our defence and allow CalMac to push forward.
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I'd rather have someone capable of passing the ball further than 5 yard and stay in the park.
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His pass to Dembele at Ibrox ❤️
comment by Call Sign (U3627)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by JFK (U8919)
posted 2 hours, 36 minutes ago
he won't last much longer i don't think.
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I think they will give him the second half of the season. The weeks they have struggled have all came after a midweek European game. They don't have the strength in depth to manage that consistent workload. After December they have no European football and I expect they will climb the table and will push for thrid in the table by the end
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I'm sure I heard last week that the Dons had a mental run of away games coming up ... 7 out of 8 over 36 days, or something. Doubt they'll be climbing much with that schedule. Personally think they should, and will, stick with him for the season at least though.
comment by MaHeed'sNippin aka I’m the competent Wullie Collum (U3633)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Silver (U6112)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by MaHeed'sNippin aka I’m the competent Wullie Collum (U3633)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Zico - Celtic Treble Winners 22/23 (U21900)
posted 5 seconds ago
We need to play Calmac as an AM. With MOR and Iwata/Holm as DM. He's wasted as a DM.
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Yes I agree. We need a DM in the mould of Broonie to sit in front of our defence and allow CalMac to push forward.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I'd rather have someone capable of passing the ball further than 5 yard and stay in the park.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
His pass to Dembele at Ibrox ❤️
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FFS he was trying to hoof it into row Z when he was pushed off balance and it fell at his feet
McGregor is at his best further up the park, no doubt about it. He was top goal scorer (or there abouts) for Notts County when he was on loan all they years ago - and before Brown left scored much more regularly for us.
It was just assumed cos he was taking the captaincy that he would take Brown's position as well. He's good enough that he's done really well there but I agree I'd like to see Iwata given a chance and put McGregor a bit further up the park.
Turnbull will be gone in Jan or end of season, Bernardo doesn't look like he'll stay and Holm isn't ready to start week in week out so it makes sense to give Iwata his chance now.
Also - is there scope for us to move to 3-5-2 and get Taylor out the team for a bit... please?
comment by MaHeed'sNippin aka I’m the competent Wullie Collum (U3633)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by Zico - Celtic Treble Winners 22/23 (U21900)
posted 5 seconds ago
We need to play Calmac as an AM. With MOR and Iwata/Holm as DM. He's wasted as a DM.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Yes I agree. We need a DM in the mould of Broonie to sit in front of our defence and allow CalMac to push forward.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Been saying for years that we need an ACTUAL DM in the team, rather than a natural AM like CalMac sitting deep. The lack of one finds us out big time in Europe ... and, dare I say it, in OF games (even though our results in them have been OK, our performances have been anything but dominant). Rangers generally play with 2 actual DMs, I've even seen them use 3. We haven't really had one worthy of the name since about 2 years before Broonie left. Our front 6 are so powder puff, as is our LB ... just can't quite put my finger on why we're so pash aerially. Hmm.
Who was our last decent DM..?
Think the title of the op is misleading. Players leave all the time. They are not missing. Replacing them with projects or crap is the issue. Said a few days ago, £2m gambles years ago rarely worked. Why should it work now, when decent players cost way more these days? Management from the top is the issue. Paid 9 for Edouard, got 15, paid 6.5 for Jota, got 25. Genuinely good players bring in better fees. It's not difficult
comment by Zico - Celtic Treble Winners 22/23 (U21900)
posted 18 minutes ago
Who was our last decent DM..?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Arguably Wanyama, although Broonie did a decent enough job prior to his last couple of seasons with us … his passing might have been limited, but at least he offered physical presence. Nobody in our regular front 6 could tackle a fish supper, in all honesty. Same applies at LB. Meanwhile, Pep these days has 4 absolute units at the back, Rodri in front of them, and Haaland up top.
comment by Dave The Jackal (U22179)
posted 36 minutes ago
comment by Zico - Celtic Treble Winners 22/23 (U21900)
posted 18 minutes ago
Who was our last decent DM..?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Arguably Wanyama, although Broonie did a decent enough job prior to his last couple of seasons with us … his passing might have been limited, but at least he offered physical presence. Nobody in our regular front 6 could tackle a fish supper, in all honesty. Same applies at LB. Meanwhile, Pep these days has 4 absolute units at the back, Rodri in front of them, and Haaland up top.
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I agree mate. Wanayama was a beast and he could play a bit too. MOTM against Barca in that historic win.
First season Kayal was immense as well, pity he never achieved those heights again.
Broony had maybe three good seasons out of about 12. When he was played in a two man midfield it was a disaster, like Graveson. But BR taught him to keep it simple and it paid off. He never ever became the player we bought off Hibs imho.
Just spoke Brendan Rodgers for
@HereCelts
- ‘Went through motions’ v St. J
- Maeda (slightly ahead) & Abada back on grass
- Nawrocki & Lagerbielke need to show why they should be in squads in training, Tilio similar situation - all fit
- ‘Competition can be the best coach’
I thought Rocky was very decent when he played. A bit miffed at BR comments.
- Nawrocki & Lagerbielke need to show why they should be in squads in training, Tilio similar situation - all fit
... FFS, if they can't get in THAT squad at the weekend then they should maybe consider an alternative career.
- ‘Competition can be the best coach’
... Aye, that's why in the summer we needed to sign decent alternatives to Hart, Taylor and Kyogo, for starters ... but didn't, even though said positions had been glaring weakness (or lacking cover) for some time. Wasn't rocket science FFS.
Reo Hatate Update
The club allowed Reo to head back to Japan to continue his rehab. He's due back in Glasgow later this week to be assessed. Not expected back until after the winter break.
comment by Dave The Jackal (U22179)
posted 2 hours, 35 minutes ago
comment by Call Sign (U3627)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by JFK (U8919)
posted 2 hours, 36 minutes ago
he won't last much longer i don't think.
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I think they will give him the second half of the season. The weeks they have struggled have all came after a midweek European game. They don't have the strength in depth to manage that consistent workload. After December they have no European football and I expect they will climb the table and will push for thrid in the table by the end
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I'm sure I heard last week that the Dons had a mental run of away games coming up ... 7 out of 8 over 36 days, or something. Doubt they'll be climbing much with that schedule. Personally think they should, and will, stick with him for the season at least though.
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6 out of 8 are home for them. 1 of the 2 is the Cup final after away at Frankfurt. The other away is Dundee
comment by Call Sign (U3627)
posted 42 minutes ago
comment by Dave The Jackal (U22179)
posted 2 hours, 35 minutes ago
comment by Call Sign (U3627)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by JFK (U8919)
posted 2 hours, 36 minutes ago
he won't last much longer i don't think.
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I think they will give him the second half of the season. The weeks they have struggled have all came after a midweek European game. They don't have the strength in depth to manage that consistent workload. After December they have no European football and I expect they will climb the table and will push for thrid in the table by the end
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I'm sure I heard last week that the Dons had a mental run of away games coming up ... 7 out of 8 over 36 days, or something. Doubt they'll be climbing much with that schedule. Personally think they should, and will, stick with him for the season at least though.
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6 out of 8 are home for them. 1 of the 2 is the Cup final after away at Frankfurt. The other away is Dundee
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Cheers. I must have heard wrong! Or maybe 7 out of 8 away was the schedule they've just come out of?
comment by JFK (U8919)
posted 20 hours, 47 minutes ago
amazing how the 2 most competent coaches for the youth setup just happened to be 2 players that previously played for us. How lucky is that?
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Except that's not what happened.
Damien Duff was the best candidate for the job and got it. Mick and Darren ran him close and there were 2 or 3 others in the final trials. 6 weeks later Rodgers goes and Duff is promoted to first team under Lennon and Mick as the runner up gets Duff's job. Then there were some other 'goings on' and O'Dea was brought in too. I heard the rumours at the time but can't vouch for their veracity. What I can say is that those they replaced or usurped made the place a much happier and positive environment which somewhat offset the return of Lennon.
comment by Paddy (U5235)
posted 16 hours, 50 minutes ago
McGregor is at his best further up the park, no doubt about it. He was top goal scorer (or there abouts) for Notts County when he was on loan all they years ago - and before Brown left scored much more regularly for us.
It was just assumed cos he was taking the captaincy that he would take Brown's position as well. He's good enough that he's done really well there but I agree I'd like to see Iwata given a chance and put McGregor a bit further up the park.
Turnbull will be gone in Jan or end of season, Bernardo doesn't look like he'll stay and Holm isn't ready to start week in week out so it makes sense to give Iwata his chance now.
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Tomoki Iwata made a difference when he came off the bench at the weekend. Rodgers admits he would’ve played in holding midfield had he been fit to face Lazio last week. So, there is a chance fans shall see him feature there against Hibs this midweek.
The manager added: “It’s one of the areas I want to improve in the team. What we have is, we’ve got David [Turnbull] whose strengths, with the greatest respects, are to play against low blocks when we’re trying to nick a goal. Getting around the pitch is maybe not a strength. When you go into Champions League games you need to have that ability to run. So, then Paolo [Bernardo] has played in those games.
“It’s finding that sort of complete package really. Callum [McGregor] has played that deeper role for a few years but it’s something that I’ve thought about for sure. Tomo would’ve played in Lazio if he was available, but sadly he missed out.”
Except that's not what happened.
=====
except it is.
the 2 best candidates for both roles just so happened to be mcmanus and o'dea.
you think we went looking any further than that? that we scoured the globe looking for the best youth coaches for our young talent and decided those 2 were best?
very good
comment by JFK (U8919)
posted 10 minutes ago
Except that's not what happened.
=====
except it is.
the 2 best candidates for both roles just so happened to be mcmanus and o'dea.
you think we went looking any further than that? that we scoured the globe looking for the best youth coaches for our young talent and decided those 2 were best?
very good
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I'm concerned for you, mate.
i don't think you can imagine how little i care.
To be honest it is a chore watching celtic play now.
I would honestly rather watch ange ball and fail than the rodgers and win.
Maybe I was spoiled but every week was exciting and the teams always gave 110% and created a crazy amont of chances.
Thats what I dont get with rodgers. Why are you playing a slow tempo against a bank of 10?
Everyone knows the way to get past these defensive blocks is to up the tempo and and create space.
Going side to side then crossing it in to a 5ft6 centre forward is not the way to win football games. Yet every week rodgers does the same thing.
He is genuinely only a few bad results away from getting the sack and its all his own fault.
ODEA is a tremendous coach and is very highly regarded , there was no need to look elsewhere .
What's the issue with having Odea in that role ?? Is that what it's came to ?? cmon you're just moaning for moaning sakes now
by who?
people chapping the door trying to get him aye? man city chasing o'dea and mcmanus .
top coach
https://www.celticfc.com/fixtures/celtic-b/?view=table
We talk about players coming up through the youth team, why our ratio for success is so poor in this area.
are we going out to find the best we can get, or are we giving old players jobs?
the effort reflects the output.
By many
Our success is like almost every other club in the country when it comes to youth development
It's not easy trying to develop a champions league player , that's essentially the level.they need to be at .
Every club lose out on prospects during the maturation period with nobody really knowing why
It's not due to coaching
And btw ODea is excellent on alot of front ls and players seem to enjoy playing for him
I'm with JFK on this. If these guys were top class coaches they wouldn't still be hanging around Celtic
Go look across Europe and the top young coaches have spent a period of time under as a B team coach or as assistant to top coach then sought the opportunity to go somewhere on their own
Arteta
de Zerbi
Maresca
Zidane
Naglesmann
Yes we won't get these coaches now but you can't say the option wasn't there - perhaps Zidane and Arteta were always going to the top immediately but we don't go for these guys or our B team and assitant coaches don't go on like these do.
Why not? Maybe they aren't as good as we thought? Maybe we aren't looking elsewhere for who can come in and support the manager.
I'm not doubting these guys are decent coaches but do you honestly think in a world of coaches the best assistant and B team coaches coincidentally were 3 ex-Celtic players and the son of a former Celtic manager?
If they are so good then why after several years of winning the league and cups are they not being lined up by other clubs? St Johnstone went for Craig Levein FFS. Aberdeen went for Barry Robson, Hibs went for then sacked some English geezer. Dundee Utd went for a guy who flopped at Aberdeen
Or why didn't the Celtic board appoint Kennedy when Ange left?
I'm sorry but I do not buy that we have the best coaches available. Good guys? Yes, Decent enough coaches? Maybe. The best we can get? Absolutely not.
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posted on 4/12/23
comment by Silver (U6112)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by MaHeed'sNippin aka I’m the competent Wullie Collum (U3633)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Zico - Celtic Treble Winners 22/23 (U21900)
posted 5 seconds ago
We need to play Calmac as an AM. With MOR and Iwata/Holm as DM. He's wasted as a DM.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Yes I agree. We need a DM in the mould of Broonie to sit in front of our defence and allow CalMac to push forward.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I'd rather have someone capable of passing the ball further than 5 yard and stay in the park.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
His pass to Dembele at Ibrox ❤️
posted on 4/12/23
comment by Call Sign (U3627)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by JFK (U8919)
posted 2 hours, 36 minutes ago
he won't last much longer i don't think.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I think they will give him the second half of the season. The weeks they have struggled have all came after a midweek European game. They don't have the strength in depth to manage that consistent workload. After December they have no European football and I expect they will climb the table and will push for thrid in the table by the end
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I'm sure I heard last week that the Dons had a mental run of away games coming up ... 7 out of 8 over 36 days, or something. Doubt they'll be climbing much with that schedule. Personally think they should, and will, stick with him for the season at least though.
posted on 4/12/23
comment by MaHeed'sNippin aka I’m the competent Wullie Collum (U3633)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Silver (U6112)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by MaHeed'sNippin aka I’m the competent Wullie Collum (U3633)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Zico - Celtic Treble Winners 22/23 (U21900)
posted 5 seconds ago
We need to play Calmac as an AM. With MOR and Iwata/Holm as DM. He's wasted as a DM.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Yes I agree. We need a DM in the mould of Broonie to sit in front of our defence and allow CalMac to push forward.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I'd rather have someone capable of passing the ball further than 5 yard and stay in the park.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
His pass to Dembele at Ibrox ❤️
----------------------------------------------------------------------
FFS he was trying to hoof it into row Z when he was pushed off balance and it fell at his feet
posted on 4/12/23
McGregor is at his best further up the park, no doubt about it. He was top goal scorer (or there abouts) for Notts County when he was on loan all they years ago - and before Brown left scored much more regularly for us.
It was just assumed cos he was taking the captaincy that he would take Brown's position as well. He's good enough that he's done really well there but I agree I'd like to see Iwata given a chance and put McGregor a bit further up the park.
Turnbull will be gone in Jan or end of season, Bernardo doesn't look like he'll stay and Holm isn't ready to start week in week out so it makes sense to give Iwata his chance now.
posted on 4/12/23
Also - is there scope for us to move to 3-5-2 and get Taylor out the team for a bit... please?
posted on 4/12/23
comment by MaHeed'sNippin aka I’m the competent Wullie Collum (U3633)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by Zico - Celtic Treble Winners 22/23 (U21900)
posted 5 seconds ago
We need to play Calmac as an AM. With MOR and Iwata/Holm as DM. He's wasted as a DM.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Yes I agree. We need a DM in the mould of Broonie to sit in front of our defence and allow CalMac to push forward.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Been saying for years that we need an ACTUAL DM in the team, rather than a natural AM like CalMac sitting deep. The lack of one finds us out big time in Europe ... and, dare I say it, in OF games (even though our results in them have been OK, our performances have been anything but dominant). Rangers generally play with 2 actual DMs, I've even seen them use 3. We haven't really had one worthy of the name since about 2 years before Broonie left. Our front 6 are so powder puff, as is our LB ... just can't quite put my finger on why we're so pash aerially. Hmm.
posted on 4/12/23
Who was our last decent DM..?
posted on 4/12/23
Think the title of the op is misleading. Players leave all the time. They are not missing. Replacing them with projects or crap is the issue. Said a few days ago, £2m gambles years ago rarely worked. Why should it work now, when decent players cost way more these days? Management from the top is the issue. Paid 9 for Edouard, got 15, paid 6.5 for Jota, got 25. Genuinely good players bring in better fees. It's not difficult
posted on 4/12/23
comment by Zico - Celtic Treble Winners 22/23 (U21900)
posted 18 minutes ago
Who was our last decent DM..?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Arguably Wanyama, although Broonie did a decent enough job prior to his last couple of seasons with us … his passing might have been limited, but at least he offered physical presence. Nobody in our regular front 6 could tackle a fish supper, in all honesty. Same applies at LB. Meanwhile, Pep these days has 4 absolute units at the back, Rodri in front of them, and Haaland up top.
posted on 4/12/23
comment by Dave The Jackal (U22179)
posted 36 minutes ago
comment by Zico - Celtic Treble Winners 22/23 (U21900)
posted 18 minutes ago
Who was our last decent DM..?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Arguably Wanyama, although Broonie did a decent enough job prior to his last couple of seasons with us … his passing might have been limited, but at least he offered physical presence. Nobody in our regular front 6 could tackle a fish supper, in all honesty. Same applies at LB. Meanwhile, Pep these days has 4 absolute units at the back, Rodri in front of them, and Haaland up top.
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I agree mate. Wanayama was a beast and he could play a bit too. MOTM against Barca in that historic win.
First season Kayal was immense as well, pity he never achieved those heights again.
Broony had maybe three good seasons out of about 12. When he was played in a two man midfield it was a disaster, like Graveson. But BR taught him to keep it simple and it paid off. He never ever became the player we bought off Hibs imho.
posted on 4/12/23
Just spoke Brendan Rodgers for
@HereCelts
- ‘Went through motions’ v St. J
- Maeda (slightly ahead) & Abada back on grass
- Nawrocki & Lagerbielke need to show why they should be in squads in training, Tilio similar situation - all fit
- ‘Competition can be the best coach’
I thought Rocky was very decent when he played. A bit miffed at BR comments.
posted on 4/12/23
- Nawrocki & Lagerbielke need to show why they should be in squads in training, Tilio similar situation - all fit
... FFS, if they can't get in THAT squad at the weekend then they should maybe consider an alternative career.
- ‘Competition can be the best coach’
... Aye, that's why in the summer we needed to sign decent alternatives to Hart, Taylor and Kyogo, for starters ... but didn't, even though said positions had been glaring weakness (or lacking cover) for some time. Wasn't rocket science FFS.
posted on 4/12/23
Reo Hatate Update
The club allowed Reo to head back to Japan to continue his rehab. He's due back in Glasgow later this week to be assessed. Not expected back until after the winter break.
posted on 4/12/23
comment by Dave The Jackal (U22179)
posted 2 hours, 35 minutes ago
comment by Call Sign (U3627)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by JFK (U8919)
posted 2 hours, 36 minutes ago
he won't last much longer i don't think.
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I think they will give him the second half of the season. The weeks they have struggled have all came after a midweek European game. They don't have the strength in depth to manage that consistent workload. After December they have no European football and I expect they will climb the table and will push for thrid in the table by the end
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I'm sure I heard last week that the Dons had a mental run of away games coming up ... 7 out of 8 over 36 days, or something. Doubt they'll be climbing much with that schedule. Personally think they should, and will, stick with him for the season at least though.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
6 out of 8 are home for them. 1 of the 2 is the Cup final after away at Frankfurt. The other away is Dundee
posted on 4/12/23
comment by Call Sign (U3627)
posted 42 minutes ago
comment by Dave The Jackal (U22179)
posted 2 hours, 35 minutes ago
comment by Call Sign (U3627)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by JFK (U8919)
posted 2 hours, 36 minutes ago
he won't last much longer i don't think.
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I think they will give him the second half of the season. The weeks they have struggled have all came after a midweek European game. They don't have the strength in depth to manage that consistent workload. After December they have no European football and I expect they will climb the table and will push for thrid in the table by the end
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I'm sure I heard last week that the Dons had a mental run of away games coming up ... 7 out of 8 over 36 days, or something. Doubt they'll be climbing much with that schedule. Personally think they should, and will, stick with him for the season at least though.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
6 out of 8 are home for them. 1 of the 2 is the Cup final after away at Frankfurt. The other away is Dundee
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Cheers. I must have heard wrong! Or maybe 7 out of 8 away was the schedule they've just come out of?
posted on 5/12/23
comment by JFK (U8919)
posted 20 hours, 47 minutes ago
amazing how the 2 most competent coaches for the youth setup just happened to be 2 players that previously played for us. How lucky is that?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Except that's not what happened.
Damien Duff was the best candidate for the job and got it. Mick and Darren ran him close and there were 2 or 3 others in the final trials. 6 weeks later Rodgers goes and Duff is promoted to first team under Lennon and Mick as the runner up gets Duff's job. Then there were some other 'goings on' and O'Dea was brought in too. I heard the rumours at the time but can't vouch for their veracity. What I can say is that those they replaced or usurped made the place a much happier and positive environment which somewhat offset the return of Lennon.
posted on 5/12/23
comment by Paddy (U5235)
posted 16 hours, 50 minutes ago
McGregor is at his best further up the park, no doubt about it. He was top goal scorer (or there abouts) for Notts County when he was on loan all they years ago - and before Brown left scored much more regularly for us.
It was just assumed cos he was taking the captaincy that he would take Brown's position as well. He's good enough that he's done really well there but I agree I'd like to see Iwata given a chance and put McGregor a bit further up the park.
Turnbull will be gone in Jan or end of season, Bernardo doesn't look like he'll stay and Holm isn't ready to start week in week out so it makes sense to give Iwata his chance now.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Tomoki Iwata made a difference when he came off the bench at the weekend. Rodgers admits he would’ve played in holding midfield had he been fit to face Lazio last week. So, there is a chance fans shall see him feature there against Hibs this midweek.
The manager added: “It’s one of the areas I want to improve in the team. What we have is, we’ve got David [Turnbull] whose strengths, with the greatest respects, are to play against low blocks when we’re trying to nick a goal. Getting around the pitch is maybe not a strength. When you go into Champions League games you need to have that ability to run. So, then Paolo [Bernardo] has played in those games.
“It’s finding that sort of complete package really. Callum [McGregor] has played that deeper role for a few years but it’s something that I’ve thought about for sure. Tomo would’ve played in Lazio if he was available, but sadly he missed out.”
posted on 5/12/23
Except that's not what happened.
=====
except it is.
the 2 best candidates for both roles just so happened to be mcmanus and o'dea.
you think we went looking any further than that? that we scoured the globe looking for the best youth coaches for our young talent and decided those 2 were best?
very good
posted on 5/12/23
comment by JFK (U8919)
posted 10 minutes ago
Except that's not what happened.
=====
except it is.
the 2 best candidates for both roles just so happened to be mcmanus and o'dea.
you think we went looking any further than that? that we scoured the globe looking for the best youth coaches for our young talent and decided those 2 were best?
very good
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I'm concerned for you, mate.
posted on 5/12/23
i don't think you can imagine how little i care.
posted on 5/12/23
To be honest it is a chore watching celtic play now.
I would honestly rather watch ange ball and fail than the rodgers and win.
Maybe I was spoiled but every week was exciting and the teams always gave 110% and created a crazy amont of chances.
Thats what I dont get with rodgers. Why are you playing a slow tempo against a bank of 10?
Everyone knows the way to get past these defensive blocks is to up the tempo and and create space.
Going side to side then crossing it in to a 5ft6 centre forward is not the way to win football games. Yet every week rodgers does the same thing.
He is genuinely only a few bad results away from getting the sack and its all his own fault.
posted on 5/12/23
ODEA is a tremendous coach and is very highly regarded , there was no need to look elsewhere .
What's the issue with having Odea in that role ?? Is that what it's came to ?? cmon you're just moaning for moaning sakes now
posted on 5/12/23
by who?
people chapping the door trying to get him aye? man city chasing o'dea and mcmanus .
top coach
https://www.celticfc.com/fixtures/celtic-b/?view=table
We talk about players coming up through the youth team, why our ratio for success is so poor in this area.
are we going out to find the best we can get, or are we giving old players jobs?
the effort reflects the output.
posted on 5/12/23
By many
Our success is like almost every other club in the country when it comes to youth development
It's not easy trying to develop a champions league player , that's essentially the level.they need to be at .
Every club lose out on prospects during the maturation period with nobody really knowing why
It's not due to coaching
And btw ODea is excellent on alot of front ls and players seem to enjoy playing for him
posted on 5/12/23
I'm with JFK on this. If these guys were top class coaches they wouldn't still be hanging around Celtic
Go look across Europe and the top young coaches have spent a period of time under as a B team coach or as assistant to top coach then sought the opportunity to go somewhere on their own
Arteta
de Zerbi
Maresca
Zidane
Naglesmann
Yes we won't get these coaches now but you can't say the option wasn't there - perhaps Zidane and Arteta were always going to the top immediately but we don't go for these guys or our B team and assitant coaches don't go on like these do.
Why not? Maybe they aren't as good as we thought? Maybe we aren't looking elsewhere for who can come in and support the manager.
I'm not doubting these guys are decent coaches but do you honestly think in a world of coaches the best assistant and B team coaches coincidentally were 3 ex-Celtic players and the son of a former Celtic manager?
If they are so good then why after several years of winning the league and cups are they not being lined up by other clubs? St Johnstone went for Craig Levein FFS. Aberdeen went for Barry Robson, Hibs went for then sacked some English geezer. Dundee Utd went for a guy who flopped at Aberdeen
Or why didn't the Celtic board appoint Kennedy when Ange left?
I'm sorry but I do not buy that we have the best coaches available. Good guys? Yes, Decent enough coaches? Maybe. The best we can get? Absolutely not.
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