‘ He has done very well the last two seasons and outperformed any winger we have had in that time.’

Has he been better than Sakala? Genuine question.

In what way has he outperformed every winger we have?

Sima minutes per goal 146
Rabbi Matondo minutes per goal 267
Ross McCausland minutes per goal 321
Scott Wright minutes per goal 421
Danny Armstrong minutes per goal 498

Forgot about Sakala

Sakala minutes per goal last season 215

comment by Gersmid (U22273)
posted 19 minutes ago
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posted 36 seconds ago
comment by RenegadeOF (U9457)
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comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 12 minutes ago
comment by RenegadeOF (U9457)
posted 4 minutes ago
Does Armstrong not get most of his assists/chances from set pieces? Not the quality that we need to improve. Maybe improves on Wright, yet doubt he’d pop up with same quality Wright has at Hampden. Would want a new RW and McAusland backup
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but we have to do so with a budget in mind IMO. We need a CM, a RM, and a CF as a bare minimum in the winter window. Would I get Armstrong if I had 3m to spend no. would I go get him for 500k if possible to allow us to go get other players in other positions needed, then yes I would.
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He’s not a long term option, so even 500k isn’t worth it for me. Also not sure if that’s a realistic value. Would rather we spend what we have to improve in a couple positions properly rather than a short term option that we’d need to improve on in 6 months.

Jan is a good time for cheap loans if anything
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He would be a long term squad player IMO to fill quotas and help. And in the short term would defo feature a lot this season IMO.

he would be like a Candeias. We are in a league challenge right now and we badly need players in 3 positions and wont have a lot of money to do so IMO.

the loan market could be decent tbf for this season.

I also think we should look at loans for more expensive buys (with an option to buy) to try and remove some of the risk involved.
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We have too many squad players. We need players to improve the first team. In terms of long term, he's 26 just now he's not a kid. He's done nothing of note in his entire career but has shown up here and there in a couple of games against the OF without really doing a great deal in terms of end product, I'm sure there are far better options out there.
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Exactly this

comment by Gersmid (U22273)
posted 1 minute ago
In what way has he outperformed every winger we have?

Sima minutes per goal 146
Rabbi Matondo minutes per goal 267
Ross McCausland minutes per goal 321
Scott Wright minutes per goal 421
Danny Armstrong minutes per goal 498
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outwith Sima you using a lot of impact players that come in in the latter stages of games.

He prob has more goals and assists than all of the players you mentioned above combined over the last 2 years.

Over last 2 seasons

Matondo - 7 assists - 2 goals
Mcausland - 1 assist - 2 goals
Wright - 2 assists - 1 goal

Armstrong - 16 goals - 18 assists

comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Gersmid (U22273)
posted 1 minute ago
In what way has he outperformed every winger we have?

Sima minutes per goal 146
Rabbi Matondo minutes per goal 267
Ross McCausland minutes per goal 321
Scott Wright minutes per goal 421
Danny Armstrong minutes per goal 498
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outwith Sima you using a lot of impact players that come in in the latter stages of games.

He prob has more goals and assists than all of the players you mentioned above combined over the last 2 years.
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Majority of his goals and assists are penalties or set pieces.

He’s a good player, but he’d be a short term signing. You’ve said he’d be a squad player, no point in having both him and McAusland for that role.

Will agree to disagree. Personally think we need to get players of a better level than we have and not sure Armstrong fits that bill. He's a good player for the level he's at in my view.

comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 8 seconds ago
Over last 2 seasons

Matondo - 7 assists - 2 goals
Mcausland - 1 assist - 2 goals
Wright - 2 assists - 1 goal

Armstrong - 16 goals - 18 assists
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And Sakala?

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comment by Call Sign (U3627)
posted 38 seconds ago
I hope you do go and sign him. In fact I encourage it
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I dont think anyone should be signed til we speak to Lex
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Has lex been back on since?

comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 14 seconds ago
Over last 2 seasons

Matondo - 7 assists - 2 goals
Mcausland - 1 assist - 2 goals
Wright - 2 assists - 1 goal

Armstrong - 16 goals - 18 assists
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You're comparing Armstrong over 2 seasons compared to McCausland who has been around for 2 months and Matondo who missed a chunk of last season with injury.

It also factors in that Armstrong takes a lot of set pieces at Killie that he wouldn't take at Rangers which discounts a number of those assists and even goals.

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posted 5 minutes ago
comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 8 seconds ago
Over last 2 seasons

Matondo - 7 assists - 2 goals
Mcausland - 1 assist - 2 goals
Wright - 2 assists - 1 goal

Armstrong - 16 goals - 18 assists
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And Sakala?
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sakala hasnt been here the last 2 seasons.

Sakala 12 goals - 8 assists

I think most Rangers fans would rather have Sakala still at the team. I am the same.

comment by Gersmid (U22273)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 14 seconds ago
Over last 2 seasons

Matondo - 7 assists - 2 goals
Mcausland - 1 assist - 2 goals
Wright - 2 assists - 1 goal

Armstrong - 16 goals - 18 assists
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You're comparing Armstrong over 2 seasons compared to McCausland who has been around for 2 months and Matondo who missed a chunk of last season with injury.

It also factors in that Armstrong takes a lot of set pieces at Killie that he wouldn't take at Rangers which discounts a number of those assists and even goals.
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inuury prone players will get more inured, less injury probe players like Armstrong dont. they play and score 16 goals and get 18 assists.

seems like your arguing the what could be's with the was actually happened.

comment by Gersmid (U22273)
posted 9 minutes ago
Will agree to disagree. Personally think we need to get players of a better level than we have and not sure Armstrong fits that bill. He's a good player for the level he's at in my view.
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long term yes I agree, for this season given we badly need players in certain positions and wont have a big budget to do so then I think he would do the job at a cheap price.

I cant see Clement getting any more than 2-3 million and IMO we need at least 3 players

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posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Changing my name from My POV - but not decided what to change it to yet (U10636)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 8 seconds ago
Over last 2 seasons

Matondo - 7 assists - 2 goals
Mcausland - 1 assist - 2 goals
Wright - 2 assists - 1 goal

Armstrong - 16 goals - 18 assists
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And Sakala?
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sakala hasnt been here the last 2 seasons.

Sakala 12 goals - 8 assists

I think most Rangers fans would rather have Sakala still at the team. I am the same.
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He’s not been better than Sakala then.

comment by Changing my name from My POV - but not decided what to change it to yet (U10636)
posted 1 minute ago
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posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Changing my name from My POV - but not decided what to change it to yet (U10636)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 8 seconds ago
Over last 2 seasons

Matondo - 7 assists - 2 goals
Mcausland - 1 assist - 2 goals
Wright - 2 assists - 1 goal

Armstrong - 16 goals - 18 assists
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And Sakala?
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sakala hasnt been here the last 2 seasons.

Sakala 12 goals - 8 assists

I think most Rangers fans would rather have Sakala still at the team. I am the same.
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He’s not been better than Sakala then.
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He was last season yes, and last time I checked Sakala isnt a gers player?

so a moot point? If Sakala was still with us you would have a point

You signed Ryan Jack so don't see why you wouldn't sign armstrong.

You said he had outperformed any winger you’d had during the last 2 years though?

12 goals 10 assists for Armstrong last season is better than Sakalas 12 goals - 8 assists yes .....

thats true he did say that

comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 8 seconds ago
12 goals 10 assists for Armstrong last season is better than Sakalas 12 goals - 8 assists yes .....
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u tell him mate

comment by Changing my name from My POV - but not decided what to change it to yet (U10636)
posted 50 seconds ago
You said he had outperformed any winger you’d had during the last 2 years though?
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this season and last yes since that the last 2 seasons that Armstorng has been playing in the top flight.

And if we can sell Sakala for 4m there or there abouts and sign Armstrong for 500-700k and he continues to produce the numbers he has then its a sensible transfer.

Killie could say 2m for Armstrong however which would be too much IMO.

comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 7 minutes ago
12 goals 10 assists for Armstrong last season is better than Sakalas 12 goals - 8 assists yes .....
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Fewer games, and not really a lot in it with Sakala playing at a higher level-but fair enough.

Scoring goals and putting in performances against the OF is very different than doing it for the OF.

They need to do it consistently over a sustained period rather than the odd big game here and there.

Otherwise you end up with Jordan Jones and Scott Wright type signings.

I still cant believe we signed Wright after he roasted Barisic a couple of times. Gerrard then went on to realise it doesnt actually take that much talent to do that