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posted on 11/12/23

With the right players I think we can be successful under Ange. When everyone is fit we can dominate most teams and against top teams we will always be a threat and give anyone a game.

I don't really pay much attention to what others say because I can see with my own eyes, Ange's style in the long run, after another two windows will bring us success. The football can be off the charts at times as highlighted yday.

posted on 11/12/23

The 2 central defenders are key to this, we need the very best available plus a couple of spares

comment by Silver (U6112)

posted on 11/12/23

comment by Dave&Danny COYH (U4428)
posted 32 minutes ago
The 2 central defenders are key to this, we need the very best available plus a couple of spares
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And they need to be pretty rapid. If 2v2s can be held up enough it gives others time to get back or even 2v1s still have the keeper to beat.

comment by Silver (U6112)

posted on 11/12/23

As a consequence you hear comments like - "Spurs fans will have a lot of fun this season" "It's going to be entertaining at Spurs". These i find slightly condescending, implying that its an entertaining, good fun approach but not one to be taken too seriously, o for Spurs to be taken too seriously.
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I was one and certainly not said condescendingly (unless he was gonna play Dier) but genuinely entertainment was in the offing - at both ends. Early days up here he was ridiculed until he got it working slick and better personnel in then those same people weren't laughing. Ange is a fundamentalist. He will never want to set a low block. It sometimes looked like it if under the cosh off a CL team but any breaks were still wholehearted. It is part of his not leaving any doubt in simple players' minds. It seems to work?

posted on 11/12/23

Silver, have been watching us? What are your thoughts on Ange so far, as an outsider looking in?

posted on 11/12/23

comment by Silver (U6112)
posted 35 minutes ago
As a consequence you hear comments like - "Spurs fans will have a lot of fun this season" "It's going to be entertaining at Spurs". These i find slightly condescending, implying that its an entertaining, good fun approach but not one to be taken too seriously, o for Spurs to be taken too seriously.
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I was one and certainly not said condescendingly (unless he was gonna play Dier) but genuinely entertainment was in the offing - at both ends. Early days up here he was ridiculed until he got it working slick and better personnel in then those same people weren't laughing. Ange is a fundamentalist. He will never want to set a low block. It sometimes looked like it if under the cosh off a CL team but any breaks were still wholehearted. It is part of his not leaving any doubt in simple players' minds. It seems to work?
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Yes, it is better to have a uniform message from the boss, and not multiple confusing message. It is simple to understand how we operate. High line, with quick transitions, and every player is able to operate in multiple places. Very effective when the players can execute it well.

comment by Silver (U6112)

posted on 11/12/23

comment by LukaBrasi Ange-r management (U22178)
posted 55 minutes ago
Silver, have been watching us? What are your thoughts on Ange so far, as an outsider looking in?
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Yeah been watching many of your games knowing they would be exciting instead of pins in the eyeballs under the last few. He's doing much as I expected overall. Whilst it might seem as you have ridden your luck at times I think the playing style can help deliver that kind of outcome?

Two things stand out as familiar. The quick sussing out of the guys in the squad that have no place for various reasons but also the turning around of others that are receptive to his new style. What player doesn't want to play front foot soccer?

The biggest surprise to me is Richy. OK, the overall stats are not earth shattering and I honestly thought his miserable demeanor would put him into the 'sussed' category but TBF he seems to have knuckled down and doing his part in the press. It might be pragmatism from Ange that he found himself short up top but still, I thought he would be a casualty. He may still be but I don't follow what is happening behind the scenes.

I've honestly no English team - happy to watch anyone that will provide a good game. Not watched Chelsea much.

Said it a few times but if he keeps up the performances then success will come. I'll let you guys define what that looks like but if it is sustained I truly believe he could replace Pep though a bunch of caveats about 115 charges and health etc.

Best of luck.

posted on 11/12/23

comment by Silver (U6112)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by LukaBrasi Ange-r management (U22178)
posted 55 minutes ago
Silver, have been watching us? What are your thoughts on Ange so far, as an outsider looking in?
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Yeah been watching many of your games knowing they would be exciting instead of pins in the eyeballs under the last few. He's doing much as I expected overall. Whilst it might seem as you have ridden your luck at times I think the playing style can help deliver that kind of outcome?

Two things stand out as familiar. The quick sussing out of the guys in the squad that have no place for various reasons but also the turning around of others that are receptive to his new style. What player doesn't want to play front foot soccer?

The biggest surprise to me is Richy. OK, the overall stats are not earth shattering and I honestly thought his miserable demeanor would put him into the 'sussed' category but TBF he seems to have knuckled down and doing his part in the press. It might be pragmatism from Ange that he found himself short up top but still, I thought he would be a casualty. He may still be but I don't follow what is happening behind the scenes.

I've honestly no English team - happy to watch anyone that will provide a good game. Not watched Chelsea much.

Said it a few times but if he keeps up the performances then success will come. I'll let you guys define what that looks like but if it is sustained I truly believe he could replace Pep though a bunch of caveats about 115 charges and health etc.

Best of luck.
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Cheers Silver. You're better than "soccer"!

posted on 11/12/23

The "high line" only works if you have a speedster run back man like VDV.
With VDV out of action the high line is dangerous.

posted on 11/12/23

comment by JustCallMeTed (U21528)
posted 11 minutes ago
The "high line" only works if you have a speedster run back man like VDV.
With VDV out of action the high line is dangerous.
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Davies has done well in his absense. Can't think any goals we have conceded which you can blame him for.

posted on 11/12/23

comment by JustCallMeTed (U21528)
posted 2 hours ago
The "high line" only works if you have a speedster run back man like VDV.
With VDV out of action the high line is dangerous.
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It works better with a speedster but has worked OK without one.

comment by Mack (U6574)

posted on 12/12/23

The people that we really need to embrace it are your mates in the accounting department. If levy doesn’t supply the players required to play this way and we are left playing the likes of dier, it will collapse around our ears much like the eras of Poch, mourinho and conte did when they were not backed with what they required


I love the approach. It’s what made me a spurs fan to begin with, back in the days we used to win trophies.

Means nothing if anges ambitions are larger than levy’s though

posted on 12/12/23

It's Champ'Ange' Football !!!!!

posted on 12/12/23

comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 8 hours ago
comment by JustCallMeTed (U21528)
posted 2 hours ago
The "high line" only works if you have a speedster run back man like VDV.
With VDV out of action the high line is dangerous.
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It works better with a speedster but has worked OK without one.
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If getting 4 points out of 15 is 'ok', what is bad?

comment by Silver (U6112)

posted on 12/12/23

comment by LukaBrasi Ange-r management (U22178)
posted 10 hours, 32 minutes ago

Cheers Silver. You're better than "soccer"!
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Sorry mate, my lad plays in the US and the disease is catching

posted on 12/12/23

comment by AFCISMYTEAM (U14931)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 8 hours ago
comment by JustCallMeTed (U21528)
posted 2 hours ago
The "high line" only works if you have a speedster run back man like VDV.
With VDV out of action the high line is dangerous.
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It works better with a speedster but has worked OK without one.
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If getting 4 points out of 15 is 'ok', what is bad?
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Exactly, but we’ve won 1 game so some are getting giddy now.

Davies may not have made many individual errors - but we’ve conceded 10 goals in 5 games with him back there. We had only conceded 9 goals in our opening 10 games- it’s a night and day difference.

We faaacked it this summer by not buying the other very necessary CB - I reckon if we had got Tapsoba then we would have at least 6 more points which would see us fighting for the title still.

We’re very lucky the ref was feeling lenient on Sunday, otherwise Romero would be banned for our next 3 games.

We should be signing a CB the very hour the transfer window opens - we can cope in all other positions just fine

posted on 12/12/23

comment by LukaBrasi Ange-r management (U22178)
posted 10 hours, 21 minutes ago
comment by JustCallMeTed (U21528)
posted 11 minutes ago
The "high line" only works if you have a speedster run back man like VDV.
With VDV out of action the high line is dangerous.
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Davies has done well in his absense. Can't think any goals we have conceded which you can blame him for.
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yes i take my hat off to him in the last game
superb job

posted on 12/12/23

comment by AFCISMYTEAM (U14931)
posted 28 minutes ago
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 8 hours ago
comment by JustCallMeTed (U21528)
posted 2 hours ago
The "high line" only works if you have a speedster run back man like VDV.
With VDV out of action the high line is dangerous.
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It works better with a speedster but has worked OK without one.
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If getting 4 points out of 15 is 'ok', what is bad?
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Having 11 players out and coping and only losing games after totally dominating teams, in his first 6 months of the PL adventure it isn’t important. Important we see a brand and a style that as fans we love and we can jump on board and love! Results will come. Season hasn’t finished and i am excited. What a first season it’s turning out to be.

posted on 12/12/23

comment by AFCISMYTEAM (U14931)
posted 1 hour, 29 minutes ago
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 8 hours ago
comment by JustCallMeTed (U21528)
posted 2 hours ago
The "high line" only works if you have a speedster run back man like VDV.
With VDV out of action the high line is dangerous.
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It works better with a speedster but has worked OK without one.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
If getting 4 points out of 15 is 'ok', what is bad?
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We're not talking about results per se, we are talking about the style and approach.

The poor results were not so much to do with the style and in particular the High Line (the clue about what we are talking about is in the title).

posted on 12/12/23

comment by Striketeam7 - There used to be a football club... (U18109)
posted 1 hour, 20 minutes ago
comment by AFCISMYTEAM (U14931)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 8 hours ago
comment by JustCallMeTed (U21528)
posted 2 hours ago
The "high line" only works if you have a speedster run back man like VDV.
With VDV out of action the high line is dangerous.
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It works better with a speedster but has worked OK without one.
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If getting 4 points out of 15 is 'ok', what is bad?
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Exactly, but we’ve won 1 game so some are getting giddy now.

Davies may not have made many individual errors - but we’ve conceded 10 goals in 5 games with him back there. We had only conceded 9 goals in our opening 10 games- it’s a night and day difference.

We faaacked it this summer by not buying the other very necessary CB - I reckon if we had got Tapsoba then we would have at least 6 more points which would see us fighting for the title still.

We’re very lucky the ref was feeling lenient on Sunday, otherwise Romero would be banned for our next 3 games.

We should be signing a CB the very hour the transfer window opens - we can cope in all other positions just fine
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God you are boring. How many times have you written this or hijacked a thread banging this same drum over and over.

WE KNOW WE NEED A CB. You repeating it 5 times a day gets us no where especially as the trnasfer window is not yet open.

The question in hand here is can this approach be successful, long term. Will it deliver results and may be trophies or is it always going to be too open, too high risk to achieve the level of consistency needed?

posted on 12/12/23

comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by AFCISMYTEAM (U14931)
posted 1 hour, 29 minutes ago
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 8 hours ago
comment by JustCallMeTed (U21528)
posted 2 hours ago
The "high line" only works if you have a speedster run back man like VDV.
With VDV out of action the high line is dangerous.
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It works better with a speedster but has worked OK without one.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
If getting 4 points out of 15 is 'ok', what is bad?
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We're not talking about results per se, we are talking about the style and approach.

The poor results were not so much to do with the style and in particular the High Line (the clue about what we are talking about is in the title).
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But your talking about people 'condescending 'spurs fans..then you say its not about result per se...its always about results, and your 'high line' clearly is part of the reason of your recent results.

posted on 12/12/23

comment by AFCISMYTEAM (U14931)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by AFCISMYTEAM (U14931)
posted 1 hour, 29 minutes ago
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 8 hours ago
comment by JustCallMeTed (U21528)
posted 2 hours ago
The "high line" only works if you have a speedster run back man like VDV.
With VDV out of action the high line is dangerous.
----------------------------------------------------------------------

It works better with a speedster but has worked OK without one.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
If getting 4 points out of 15 is 'ok', what is bad?
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We're not talking about results per se, we are talking about the style and approach.

The poor results were not so much to do with the style and in particular the High Line (the clue about what we are talking about is in the title).
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But your talking about people 'condescending 'spurs fans..then you say its not about result per se...its always about results, and your 'high line' clearly is part of the reason of your recent results.
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I wouldn’t bother mate, we’ve won a game, Devon’s in his happy clappy echo chamber.

Let’s not forget that Devon claimed that the highline has worked OK without a speedster - yet we’ve doubled our goals conceded in half the amount of games and only picked up 4 points. It clearly has not worked okay and as predicted Ange ball is great but is heavily reliant on having the right players in the system - if we build sufficient strength in depth then we will be a force if we do not then we will go through these patches as the players coming in are not good enough - it’s as simple as that.

We need to back Ange properly, the football he plays is fantastic to watch and can be successful with the right players

posted on 12/12/23

comment by AFCISMYTEAM (U14931)
posted 15 minutes ago
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by AFCISMYTEAM (U14931)
posted 1 hour, 29 minutes ago
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 8 hours ago
comment by JustCallMeTed (U21528)
posted 2 hours ago
The "high line" only works if you have a speedster run back man like VDV.
With VDV out of action the high line is dangerous.
----------------------------------------------------------------------

It works better with a speedster but has worked OK without one.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
If getting 4 points out of 15 is 'ok', what is bad?
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We're not talking about results per se, we are talking about the style and approach.

The poor results were not so much to do with the style and in particular the High Line (the clue about what we are talking about is in the title).
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But your talking about people 'condescending 'spurs fans..then you say its not about result per se...its always about results, and your 'high line' clearly is part of the reason of your recent results.
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which of the goals we've conceded during this period would you attribute to the highline?

posted on 12/12/23

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posted on 12/12/23

comment by Christopher huffing glou (U20930)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by AFCISMYTEAM (U14931)
posted 15 minutes ago
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by AFCISMYTEAM (U14931)
posted 1 hour, 29 minutes ago
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 8 hours ago
comment by JustCallMeTed (U21528)
posted 2 hours ago
The "high line" only works if you have a speedster run back man like VDV.
With VDV out of action the high line is dangerous.
----------------------------------------------------------------------

It works better with a speedster but has worked OK without one.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
If getting 4 points out of 15 is 'ok', what is bad?
----------------------------------------------------------------------

We're not talking about results per se, we are talking about the style and approach.

The poor results were not so much to do with the style and in particular the High Line (the clue about what we are talking about is in the title).
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But your talking about people 'condescending 'spurs fans..then you say its not about result per se...its always about results, and your 'high line' clearly is part of the reason of your recent results.
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which of the goals we've conceded during this period would you attribute to the highline?
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It’s not about the highline, it’s that Davies is not as good as VDV and Dier is a joke - the Wolves pens = pure Dier. Watkins goal was us being carved open to easily and arguably Davies fault. Man City - poorly organised meant Son scores an own goal, Bissouma faaaack up and the second goal was Doku destroying Davies like Son did Trippier.

The West Ham game was just bad luck from start to finish in that second half after we had destroyed them in the first. The goal we conceded against Newcastle was atrocious defending all round but to be fair we were 4-0 up with a few mins to go and had completely switched off at that point

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