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Ampadu & Gruev

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posted on 29/12/23

Said the for weeks

We have bought three Adam Forshaws in Ampadu Kamara and Gruev

Dribble X
Creative passing X
Shooting X
Crossing X

Three number 4s costing £15m
No number 8
No number 10


= one dimensional

posted on 29/12/23

We're playing 424, the DM's aren't there to score goals, the 4 attackers are and have done. We're top heavy and the DM's are to protect the defence.

We need a 10 and either put Piroe up top or drop him.

comment by Jonty (U4614)

posted on 29/12/23

comment by Shaun M - supercalifragilisticOrtaisatrocious (U9955)
posted 2 minutes ago
We're playing 424, the DM's aren't there to score goals, the 4 attackers are and have done. We're top heavy and the DM's are to protect the defence.

We need a 10 and either put Piroe up top or drop him.
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Cannot afford to play outfield players who do not score.

Add to that our full backs who don’t score and you see that you don’t have to do that much to prevent us scoring.

posted on 30/12/23

Don’t forget the centre backs

Rodon is 26 and never scored a goal in English football!

comment by Stoopo (U4707)

posted on 30/12/23

comment by Shaun M - supercalifragilisticOrtaisatrocious (U9955)
posted 44 minutes ago
We're playing 424, the DM's aren't there to score goals, the 4 attackers are and have done. We're top heavy and the DM's are to protect the defence.

We need a 10 and either put Piroe up top or drop him.
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Exactly

posted on 30/12/23

We will see what January brings as to the capabilities of our owners as even though I think on their day our best 11 is by far the best in this league we clearly don't have anything in reserve squad wise to cover for fatigue, injuries and suspension.

I would hope the owners recognise the need for squad strengthening as Gruev, Gnonto, Firpo, Bamford, Ayling, Gjabi and Gelhardt are simply not good enough for what we need right now.

So despite the pronouncement of not doing much this January I feel we need 7 new additions in various positions to cement our play off spot and ensure we have a successful play off campaign.

posted on 30/12/23

We should get Riqui Puig ex Barcelona currenyat la galaxy he’s a #10 capable of breaking lines and scoring goals

posted on 30/12/23

comment by Wobble: (U22876)
posted 0 seconds ago
We should get Riqui Puig ex Barcelona currently la galaxy he’s a #10 capable of breaking lines and scoring goals
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posted on 30/12/23

Yep, the phrase ‘in the land of the blind, the man with 1 eye is king’.

Ampadu looks world class compared to Gruev and he’s (Ampadu) done brilliantly so far this season. Without any creativity in midfield and the likes of Piroe up front, it’s no wonder we struggle to convert our chances at times.

comment by tslufc (U12903)

posted on 30/12/23

comment by Kebablegs (U17699)
posted 8 hours, 39 minutes ago
Don’t forget the centre backs

Rodon is 26 and never scored a goal in English football!
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That is a terrible stat. Seeing his headers from our corners in the last few games it makes sense.

posted on 30/12/23

Worries me that DF plays Gruev - are they related ?

comment by tslufc (U12903)

posted on 30/12/23

comment by Macca: Emily Bronte's lovechild (U8194)
posted 8 hours, 4 minutes ago
We will see what January brings as to the capabilities of our owners as even though I think on their day our best 11 is by far the best in this league we clearly don't have anything in reserve squad wise to cover for fatigue, injuries and suspension.

I would hope the owners recognise the need for squad strengthening as Gruev, Gnonto, Firpo, Bamford, Ayling, Gjabi and Gelhardt are simply not good enough for what we need right now.

So despite the pronouncement of not doing much this January I feel we need 7 new additions in various positions to cement our play off spot and ensure we have a successful play off campaign.
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Agree with much of this however the notion that our first choice 11 is the best in the league is part of the problem.
We are guilty of thinking we are so good we cannot be improved. As stated by others in this thread we have no playmaker no 10, zero creativity or goals from a set of interchangeable midfielders.

Opposition teams have worked out that a low block and stopping Summerville snuffs out our goal threat.
They then play on the break knowing we will be pushing everybody forward trying to score leaving huge gaps in behind.

If we carry on thinking our first 11 is so great and not recognise the weaknesses we are riding for a fall

comment by Jonty (U4614)

posted on 30/12/23

comment by tslufc (U12903)
posted 14 minutes ago
comment by Macca: Emily Bronte's lovechild (U8194)
posted 8 hours, 4 minutes ago
We will see what January brings as to the capabilities of our owners as even though I think on their day our best 11 is by far the best in this league we clearly don't have anything in reserve squad wise to cover for fatigue, injuries and suspension.

I would hope the owners recognise the need for squad strengthening as Gruev, Gnonto, Firpo, Bamford, Ayling, Gjabi and Gelhardt are simply not good enough for what we need right now.

So despite the pronouncement of not doing much this January I feel we need 7 new additions in various positions to cement our play off spot and ensure we have a successful play off campaign.
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Agree with much of this however the notion that our first choice 11 is the best in the league is part of the problem.
We are guilty of thinking we are so good we cannot be improved. As stated by others in this thread we have no playmaker no 10, zero creativity or goals from a set of interchangeable midfielders.

Opposition teams have worked out that a low block and stopping Summerville snuffs out our goal threat.
They then play on the break knowing we will be pushing everybody forward trying to score leaving huge gaps in behind.

If we carry on thinking our first 11 is so great and not recognise the weaknesses we are riding for a fall


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Agree with this, we've beaten top 2, but every teams have teams they lose to and if top 2 just lose to us and go up whilst we stay down, saying we have best team is cold comfort.

We always feel we have the best this, the best that, without any real knowledge of other teams.

What we do know is that we have large fanbase, one of biggest home crowds in division (are Sunderland higher (40k to our 35k I believe)?) and supposedly wealthy owners.

At some point money is going to have to be spent on players, or we have to get a much better recruitment system.

posted on 30/12/23

Would love to snaffle Brentford’s recruitment team๐Ÿ˜

comment by Stoopo (U4707)

posted on 30/12/23

Going back to the OP - Ampadu is not in the team as a goal scorer. He’s there to do what he does now (very well).

Yes maybe he should weigh in with the odd goal - I mean even £42m Phillips got the odd goal a season from the same position ๐Ÿ˜

posted on 30/12/23

comment by The Light Brigade (U22847)
posted 10 hours, 12 minutes ago
Would love to snaffle Brentford’s recruitment team๐Ÿ˜
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The way Brentford are playing at the moment, we may well get the chance to see the impact of their recruitment team next seson.

posted on 31/12/23

Recruitment team not responsible for their injury list and Toney's omission.

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