comment by Changing my name from My POV - but not decided what to change it to yet (U10636)
posted 22 seconds ago
‘Doesn't matter anyway. Dodgy decisions shouldn't be the way you want to win games.’
That’s a bit wild-he was offside-it wouldn’t have been given anyway. Hardly a dodgy decision.
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I mean if it was given as a pen
comment by Changing my name from My POV - but not decided what to change it to yet (U10636)
posted 3 minutes ago
They didn’t need to go that far back to check for offside.
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It took ages to come to that decision though
comment by Mummy's Hairy Growler (U10045)
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comment by Changing my name from My POV - but not decided what to change it to yet (U10636)
posted 1 second ago
comment by Mummy's Hairy Growler (U10045)
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comment by Changing my name from My POV - but not decided what to change it to yet (U10636)
posted 35 seconds ago
‘It was the correct decision after the fact but not during the game’
Even if they awarded the penalty, VAR reviews the build up and offside would have been given-which is the point.
I would have wanted a penalty, but we’ve seen before with Tavernier at Aberdeen that penalties like that aren’t given.
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VAR gave the ref the chance to review the handball and said no. Don't think the offside would have been spotted.
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They review if they think it’s a penalty, and then review the build up. Collum apparently didn’t think it was a penalty anyway, but it still wouldn’t have been given as they would have to have given him as offside.
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Doesn't matter anyway. Dodgy decisions shouldn't be the way you want to win games.
The handball rules are a joke too
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🤣🤣🤣
Like I’ve said a few times, it’s an irrelevance as it would never have been given anyway. That wasn’t why you lost today. Dessers, Cantwell, Balogun and Goldson are bigger reasons than a penalty that was never getting awarded.
comment by Changing my name from My POV - but not decided what to change it to yet (U10636)
posted 1 minute ago
Like I’ve said a few times, it’s an irrelevance as it would never have been given anyway. That wasn’t why you lost today. Dessers, Cantwell, Balogun and Goldson are bigger reasons than a penalty that was never getting awarded.
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Oh absolutely. I'd love to have Kyogo. Without him you'd struggle
comment by Zico - Celtic Treble Winners 22/23 (U21900)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Mummy's Hairy Growler (U10045)
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comment by Changing my name from My POV - but not decided what to change it to yet (U10636)
posted 1 second ago
comment by Mummy's Hairy Growler (U10045)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Changing my name from My POV - but not decided what to change it to yet (U10636)
posted 35 seconds ago
‘It was the correct decision after the fact but not during the game’
Even if they awarded the penalty, VAR reviews the build up and offside would have been given-which is the point.
I would have wanted a penalty, but we’ve seen before with Tavernier at Aberdeen that penalties like that aren’t given.
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VAR gave the ref the chance to review the handball and said no. Don't think the offside would have been spotted.
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They review if they think it’s a penalty, and then review the build up. Collum apparently didn’t think it was a penalty anyway, but it still wouldn’t have been given as they would have to have given him as offside.
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Doesn't matter anyway. Dodgy decisions shouldn't be the way you want to win games.
The handball rules are a joke too
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🤣🤣🤣
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I'm not saying a dodgy decision is how celtic won but rather I wouldn't have wanted to win that way
Does anyone remember all the pens against Celtic when VAR was first introduced?
Does anyone remember the five or six incidents were Goldson handled the ball inside his own box? And nothing was given..?
I'm sure Rangers and their fans were clamouring to the authorities to give their ill gotten points back to the teams that are deserving of them, in the interests of fairness and justice for all.
comment by Zico - Celtic Treble Winners 22/23 (U21900)
posted less than a minute ago
Forrest beating Man Utd
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Pfft. Couldn't even get on today
comment by Zico - Celtic Treble Winners 22/23 (U21900)
posted 3 minutes ago
Does anyone remember all the pens against Celtic when VAR was first introduced?
Does anyone remember the five or six incidents were Goldson handled the ball inside his own box? And nothing was given..?
I'm sure Rangers and their fans were clamouring to the authorities to give their ill gotten points back to the teams that are deserving of them, in the interests of fairness and justice for all.
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You should be a ref
comment by son of quebec (U8127)
posted 45 seconds ago
Mummy, he's won 2 Belgian leagues.
Rodgers has won 2 Scottish leagues.
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Woooooops. 3 Belgian leagues. I missed the first one with Genk.
https://www.heraldscotland.com/sport/football/24019459.rangers-werent-awarded-penalty-celtic-handball-incident/
Think the most salient point is this bit:
‘If the experienced SFA official had deemed it to be a handball then no penalty would have been given as he would then have checked the attacking phase of play and seen that Sima had been offside when Lundstram supplied him.’
comment by Changing my name from My POV - but not decided what to change it to yet (U10636)
posted 30 seconds ago
https://www.heraldscotland.com/sport/football/24019459.rangers-werent-awarded-penalty-celtic-handball-incident/
Think the most salient point is this bit:
‘If the experienced SFA official had deemed it to be a handball then no penalty would have been given as he would then have checked the attacking phase of play and seen that Sima had been offside when Lundstram supplied him.’
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Fair enough mate.
Anyway-bar about 15 mins before the end of the first half after Walsh had gone off, and after Rangers scored we were comfortably the better team which genuinely surprised me.
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comment by Changing my name from My POV - but not decided what to change it to yet (U10636)
posted 30 seconds ago
https://www.heraldscotland.com/sport/football/24019459.rangers-werent-awarded-penalty-celtic-handball-incident/
Think the most salient point is this bit:
‘If the experienced SFA official had deemed it to be a handball then no penalty would have been given as he would then have checked the attacking phase of play and seen that Sima had been offside when Lundstram supplied him.’
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Fair enough mate.
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comment by Mummy's Hairy Growler (U10045)
posted 46 seconds ago
comment by Zico - Celtic Treble Winners 22/23 (U21900)
posted 3 minutes ago
Does anyone remember all the pens against Celtic when VAR was first introduced?
Does anyone remember the five or six incidents were Goldson handled the ball inside his own box? And nothing was given..?
I'm sure Rangers and their fans were clamouring to the authorities to give their ill gotten points back to the teams that are deserving of them, in the interests of fairness and justice for all.
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You should be a ref
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It's an impossible job. You're supposed to see everything at once. Then VAR appears to add some help and makes it 'worse'.
Anytime humans are involved their will be mistakes. It's our forte.
comment by Mummy's Hairy Growler (U10045)
posted 19 minutes ago
We are never supposed to beat you. You are paying the most expensive manager in Scotland to do just that.
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We are but do you think 17% less is that significant?
On paper our squad is worth more though I'd argue that is simply due to the rash of new contracts dished out to existing players and it is not necessarily real.
Rangers are reputedly paying several players way more than our top earner. I know these sites with salary info are dubious but they seem backed up by fan sites - the 11 on the park are probably paid more than Celtic's 11?
comment by Silver (U6112)
posted 33 seconds ago
comment by Mummy's Hairy Growler (U10045)
posted 19 minutes ago
We are never supposed to beat you. You are paying the most expensive manager in Scotland to do just that.
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We are but do you think 17% less is that significant?
On paper our squad is worth more though I'd argue that is simply due to the rash of new contracts dished out to existing players and it is not necessarily real.
Rangers are reputedly paying several players way more than our top earner. I know these sites with salary info are dubious but they seem backed up by fan sites - the 11 on the park are probably paid more than Celtic's 11?
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I've read what you posted in that last paragraph in various places. Don't know how true it is, but I've seen it.
comment by Mummy's Hairy Growler (U10045)
posted 36 minutes ago
comment by Call Sign (U3627)
posted 50 seconds ago
It was also a clear penalty on Turnbull
He wasn't offside as flagged
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But if you rewind 10 mins you could find something else
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Well I demand 10 minutes of audio
The non penalty incident? Where did play restart from? If as I think it did it was with Hart taking a free kick from the edge of the box then clearly offside had been given. If it was a bye kick then we have something to discuss.
comment by Call Sign (U3627)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Mummy's Hairy Growler (U10045)
posted 36 minutes ago
comment by Call Sign (U3627)
posted 50 seconds ago
It was also a clear penalty on Turnbull
He wasn't offside as flagged
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But if you rewind 10 mins you could find something else
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Well I demand 10 minutes of audio
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Funny how after asking for audio, we now know it was decided it wasn’t a pen.
Offside wasn’t considered.
So how did we get VAR offside lines in second half and communication at that point it was offside…
comment by I'm not as think as you drunk I am.......... (U2115)
posted 10 minutes ago
The non penalty incident? Where did play restart from? If as I think it did it was with Hart taking a free kick from the edge of the box then clearly offside had been given. If it was a bye kick then we have something to discuss.
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What I saw. Maybe it's a different feed here.
comment by RenegadeOF (U9457)
posted about a minute ago
comment by Call Sign (U3627)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Mummy's Hairy Growler (U10045)
posted 36 minutes ago
comment by Call Sign (U3627)
posted 50 seconds ago
It was also a clear penalty on Turnbull
He wasn't offside as flagged
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But if you rewind 10 mins you could find something else
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Well I demand 10 minutes of audio
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Funny how after asking for audio, we now know it was decided it wasn’t a pen.
Offside wasn’t considered.
So how did we get VAR offside lines in second half and communication at that point it was offside…
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Yaaaaaasssssss
He is back
https://planetradio.co.uk/clyde/sport/football-news/rangers-sfa-release-var-audio-denied-penalty/
Rangers ask SFA to release VAR audio after being denied penalty.
Sky Sports, who were broadcasting the fixture, revealed later in the match the reason for the penalty not being given was because Abdallah Sima was offside in the buildup
However, Ibrox boss Philippe Clement questioned the lack of gesture from the referee signalling that at the time.
The club are now seeking clarity over the incident and have contacted the Scotish FA.
A Rangers spokesperson said: “Rangers have asked the Scottish FA to make the VAR audio available to the club to understand why no penalty was awarded despite a clear handball by Celtic’s Alastair Johnston.
“The club is keen to understand the process that led to that decision being made as it was not made public at the time, nor communicated to our team.
“We also understand Sky, as the league’s official broadcaster, is deeply unhappy and confused with the situation. Their panel spent half-time in agreement Rangers should have been awarded a penalty, unaware of any offside check. Again, this only surfaced in the second half.
“Rangers remains advocates of VAR, but there must be significantly more transparency for it to be successful in Scotland
You know what Renegade? Having read everything you have said I whole heartedly agree
Celtic should have finished with 8 players. Rangers should have got a penalty. Celtic's goal shouldn't have stood. Every decision went Celtic's way. None went Rangers way.
Get it right fvckin roon ye. Ram that game so far up your arrse that Kyogo's goal hits your tonsils. Up ye. Bitter angry little man
Yaaaaaasssssss
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posted on 30/12/23
comment by Changing my name from My POV - but not decided what to change it to yet (U10636)
posted 22 seconds ago
‘Doesn't matter anyway. Dodgy decisions shouldn't be the way you want to win games.’
That’s a bit wild-he was offside-it wouldn’t have been given anyway. Hardly a dodgy decision.
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I mean if it was given as a pen
posted on 30/12/23
comment by Changing my name from My POV - but not decided what to change it to yet (U10636)
posted 3 minutes ago
They didn’t need to go that far back to check for offside.
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It took ages to come to that decision though
posted on 30/12/23
comment by Mummy's Hairy Growler (U10045)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by Changing my name from My POV - but not decided what to change it to yet (U10636)
posted 1 second ago
comment by Mummy's Hairy Growler (U10045)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Changing my name from My POV - but not decided what to change it to yet (U10636)
posted 35 seconds ago
‘It was the correct decision after the fact but not during the game’
Even if they awarded the penalty, VAR reviews the build up and offside would have been given-which is the point.
I would have wanted a penalty, but we’ve seen before with Tavernier at Aberdeen that penalties like that aren’t given.
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VAR gave the ref the chance to review the handball and said no. Don't think the offside would have been spotted.
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They review if they think it’s a penalty, and then review the build up. Collum apparently didn’t think it was a penalty anyway, but it still wouldn’t have been given as they would have to have given him as offside.
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Doesn't matter anyway. Dodgy decisions shouldn't be the way you want to win games.
The handball rules are a joke too
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🤣🤣🤣
posted on 30/12/23
Like I’ve said a few times, it’s an irrelevance as it would never have been given anyway. That wasn’t why you lost today. Dessers, Cantwell, Balogun and Goldson are bigger reasons than a penalty that was never getting awarded.
posted on 30/12/23
comment by Changing my name from My POV - but not decided what to change it to yet (U10636)
posted 1 minute ago
Like I’ve said a few times, it’s an irrelevance as it would never have been given anyway. That wasn’t why you lost today. Dessers, Cantwell, Balogun and Goldson are bigger reasons than a penalty that was never getting awarded.
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Oh absolutely. I'd love to have Kyogo. Without him you'd struggle
posted on 30/12/23
comment by Zico - Celtic Treble Winners 22/23 (U21900)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Mummy's Hairy Growler (U10045)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by Changing my name from My POV - but not decided what to change it to yet (U10636)
posted 1 second ago
comment by Mummy's Hairy Growler (U10045)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Changing my name from My POV - but not decided what to change it to yet (U10636)
posted 35 seconds ago
‘It was the correct decision after the fact but not during the game’
Even if they awarded the penalty, VAR reviews the build up and offside would have been given-which is the point.
I would have wanted a penalty, but we’ve seen before with Tavernier at Aberdeen that penalties like that aren’t given.
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VAR gave the ref the chance to review the handball and said no. Don't think the offside would have been spotted.
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They review if they think it’s a penalty, and then review the build up. Collum apparently didn’t think it was a penalty anyway, but it still wouldn’t have been given as they would have to have given him as offside.
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Doesn't matter anyway. Dodgy decisions shouldn't be the way you want to win games.
The handball rules are a joke too
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🤣🤣🤣
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I'm not saying a dodgy decision is how celtic won but rather I wouldn't have wanted to win that way
posted on 30/12/23
Does anyone remember all the pens against Celtic when VAR was first introduced?
Does anyone remember the five or six incidents were Goldson handled the ball inside his own box? And nothing was given..?
I'm sure Rangers and their fans were clamouring to the authorities to give their ill gotten points back to the teams that are deserving of them, in the interests of fairness and justice for all.
posted on 30/12/23
Forrest beating Man Utd
posted on 30/12/23
comment by Zico - Celtic Treble Winners 22/23 (U21900)
posted less than a minute ago
Forrest beating Man Utd
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Pfft. Couldn't even get on today
posted on 30/12/23
comment by Zico - Celtic Treble Winners 22/23 (U21900)
posted 3 minutes ago
Does anyone remember all the pens against Celtic when VAR was first introduced?
Does anyone remember the five or six incidents were Goldson handled the ball inside his own box? And nothing was given..?
I'm sure Rangers and their fans were clamouring to the authorities to give their ill gotten points back to the teams that are deserving of them, in the interests of fairness and justice for all.
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You should be a ref
posted on 30/12/23
comment by son of quebec (U8127)
posted 45 seconds ago
Mummy, he's won 2 Belgian leagues.
Rodgers has won 2 Scottish leagues.
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Woooooops. 3 Belgian leagues. I missed the first one with Genk.
posted on 30/12/23
https://www.heraldscotland.com/sport/football/24019459.rangers-werent-awarded-penalty-celtic-handball-incident/
Think the most salient point is this bit:
‘If the experienced SFA official had deemed it to be a handball then no penalty would have been given as he would then have checked the attacking phase of play and seen that Sima had been offside when Lundstram supplied him.’
posted on 30/12/23
comment by Changing my name from My POV - but not decided what to change it to yet (U10636)
posted 30 seconds ago
https://www.heraldscotland.com/sport/football/24019459.rangers-werent-awarded-penalty-celtic-handball-incident/
Think the most salient point is this bit:
‘If the experienced SFA official had deemed it to be a handball then no penalty would have been given as he would then have checked the attacking phase of play and seen that Sima had been offside when Lundstram supplied him.’
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Fair enough mate.
posted on 30/12/23
Anyway-bar about 15 mins before the end of the first half after Walsh had gone off, and after Rangers scored we were comfortably the better team which genuinely surprised me.
posted on 30/12/23
comment by Mummy's Hairy Growler (U10045)
posted less than a minute ago
comment by Changing my name from My POV - but not decided what to change it to yet (U10636)
posted 30 seconds ago
https://www.heraldscotland.com/sport/football/24019459.rangers-werent-awarded-penalty-celtic-handball-incident/
Think the most salient point is this bit:
‘If the experienced SFA official had deemed it to be a handball then no penalty would have been given as he would then have checked the attacking phase of play and seen that Sima had been offside when Lundstram supplied him.’
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Fair enough mate.
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posted on 30/12/23
comment by Mummy's Hairy Growler (U10045)
posted 46 seconds ago
comment by Zico - Celtic Treble Winners 22/23 (U21900)
posted 3 minutes ago
Does anyone remember all the pens against Celtic when VAR was first introduced?
Does anyone remember the five or six incidents were Goldson handled the ball inside his own box? And nothing was given..?
I'm sure Rangers and their fans were clamouring to the authorities to give their ill gotten points back to the teams that are deserving of them, in the interests of fairness and justice for all.
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You should be a ref
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It's an impossible job. You're supposed to see everything at once. Then VAR appears to add some help and makes it 'worse'.
Anytime humans are involved their will be mistakes. It's our forte.
posted on 30/12/23
comment by Mummy's Hairy Growler (U10045)
posted 19 minutes ago
We are never supposed to beat you. You are paying the most expensive manager in Scotland to do just that.
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We are but do you think 17% less is that significant?
On paper our squad is worth more though I'd argue that is simply due to the rash of new contracts dished out to existing players and it is not necessarily real.
Rangers are reputedly paying several players way more than our top earner. I know these sites with salary info are dubious but they seem backed up by fan sites - the 11 on the park are probably paid more than Celtic's 11?
posted on 30/12/23
comment by Silver (U6112)
posted 33 seconds ago
comment by Mummy's Hairy Growler (U10045)
posted 19 minutes ago
We are never supposed to beat you. You are paying the most expensive manager in Scotland to do just that.
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We are but do you think 17% less is that significant?
On paper our squad is worth more though I'd argue that is simply due to the rash of new contracts dished out to existing players and it is not necessarily real.
Rangers are reputedly paying several players way more than our top earner. I know these sites with salary info are dubious but they seem backed up by fan sites - the 11 on the park are probably paid more than Celtic's 11?
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I've read what you posted in that last paragraph in various places. Don't know how true it is, but I've seen it.
posted on 30/12/23
comment by Mummy's Hairy Growler (U10045)
posted 36 minutes ago
comment by Call Sign (U3627)
posted 50 seconds ago
It was also a clear penalty on Turnbull
He wasn't offside as flagged
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But if you rewind 10 mins you could find something else
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Well I demand 10 minutes of audio
posted on 30/12/23
The non penalty incident? Where did play restart from? If as I think it did it was with Hart taking a free kick from the edge of the box then clearly offside had been given. If it was a bye kick then we have something to discuss.
posted on 30/12/23
comment by Call Sign (U3627)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Mummy's Hairy Growler (U10045)
posted 36 minutes ago
comment by Call Sign (U3627)
posted 50 seconds ago
It was also a clear penalty on Turnbull
He wasn't offside as flagged
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But if you rewind 10 mins you could find something else
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Well I demand 10 minutes of audio
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Funny how after asking for audio, we now know it was decided it wasn’t a pen.
Offside wasn’t considered.
So how did we get VAR offside lines in second half and communication at that point it was offside…
posted on 30/12/23
comment by I'm not as think as you drunk I am.......... (U2115)
posted 10 minutes ago
The non penalty incident? Where did play restart from? If as I think it did it was with Hart taking a free kick from the edge of the box then clearly offside had been given. If it was a bye kick then we have something to discuss.
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What I saw. Maybe it's a different feed here.
posted on 30/12/23
comment by RenegadeOF (U9457)
posted about a minute ago
comment by Call Sign (U3627)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Mummy's Hairy Growler (U10045)
posted 36 minutes ago
comment by Call Sign (U3627)
posted 50 seconds ago
It was also a clear penalty on Turnbull
He wasn't offside as flagged
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But if you rewind 10 mins you could find something else
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Well I demand 10 minutes of audio
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Funny how after asking for audio, we now know it was decided it wasn’t a pen.
Offside wasn’t considered.
So how did we get VAR offside lines in second half and communication at that point it was offside…
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Yaaaaaasssssss
He is back
posted on 30/12/23
https://planetradio.co.uk/clyde/sport/football-news/rangers-sfa-release-var-audio-denied-penalty/
Rangers ask SFA to release VAR audio after being denied penalty.
Sky Sports, who were broadcasting the fixture, revealed later in the match the reason for the penalty not being given was because Abdallah Sima was offside in the buildup
However, Ibrox boss Philippe Clement questioned the lack of gesture from the referee signalling that at the time.
The club are now seeking clarity over the incident and have contacted the Scotish FA.
A Rangers spokesperson said: “Rangers have asked the Scottish FA to make the VAR audio available to the club to understand why no penalty was awarded despite a clear handball by Celtic’s Alastair Johnston.
“The club is keen to understand the process that led to that decision being made as it was not made public at the time, nor communicated to our team.
“We also understand Sky, as the league’s official broadcaster, is deeply unhappy and confused with the situation. Their panel spent half-time in agreement Rangers should have been awarded a penalty, unaware of any offside check. Again, this only surfaced in the second half.
“Rangers remains advocates of VAR, but there must be significantly more transparency for it to be successful in Scotland
posted on 30/12/23
You know what Renegade? Having read everything you have said I whole heartedly agree
Celtic should have finished with 8 players. Rangers should have got a penalty. Celtic's goal shouldn't have stood. Every decision went Celtic's way. None went Rangers way.
Get it right fvckin roon ye. Ram that game so far up your arrse that Kyogo's goal hits your tonsils. Up ye. Bitter angry little man
Yaaaaaasssssss
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