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Saliba or Van Dijk

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posted on 22/1/24

saliba isn't winning the balon d'or.
it's not a position that really gets a look in, even being an exceptionally good defender is rarely enough to even make the shortlist.. that's why only 1 goalkeeker, and 3 defenders have ever won the award...

as for saliba.. i've been impressed with him every time i've seen him.. definitely got the potential to be one of the best.. whether he takes his chances to reach that potential is another matter...

right now.. and even for next season.. between VVD and saliba, i'd rather have VVD.
after that.. depends on how age affects vvd, and how saliba progresses... but the choice should be naturally moving in favour of saliba..

posted on 22/1/24

I think Liverpool are a more attacking side fwiw and take more risks.

posted on 22/1/24

comment by Nickasaurus (U9257)
posted 46 minutes ago
comment by 19 + 6 > 20 + 3 (U22930)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Peter O'Hanraha-hanrahan (U1217)
posted 1 hour, 18 minutes ago
comment by oldboy2002 (U20062)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Never Mind the Defending: Here’s Jürgen Klopp’s Liverpool (U3979)
posted 7 minutes ago
Jokes aside Saliba is a quality player and likely won’t spend his best years at Arsenal.

But he’s nothing on VVD yet.
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YET is the key word. You Liverpool fans act like VVD has won tons of trophies. Hes won 1 solitary PL title and Champions league. Saliba had 10 years at the top to win the trophies.
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Well he's won the lot with us
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🎤 drop
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not really. If saliba were to go to madrid or something i'm sure he'd win atleast that. Still to be decided.
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Van Dijk took a Liverpool team with potential and turned them into perennial title winners. Saliba isn’t doing that yet.

posted on 22/1/24

Tbf to Saliba he has Arteta as a manager

posted on 22/1/24

comment by 20th title coming soon. (U12879)
posted 1 hour, 46 minutes ago
saliba isn't winning the balon d'or.
it's not a position that really gets a look in, even being an exceptionally good defender is rarely enough to even make the shortlist.. that's why only 1 goalkeeker, and 3 defenders have ever won the award...

as for saliba.. i've been impressed with him every time i've seen him.. definitely got the potential to be one of the best.. whether he takes his chances to reach that potential is another matter...

right now.. and even for next season.. between VVD and saliba, i'd rather have VVD.
after that.. depends on how age affects vvd, and how saliba progresses... but the choice should be naturally moving in favour of saliba..
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VVD should have won it but they have it to Messi.

posted on 22/1/24

*gave

posted on 22/1/24

comment by Thorgen Kloppinson - "When the facts are ... (U1282)
posted 3 hours, 36 minutes ago
comment by Tu Meke (U3732)
posted 26 minutes ago
comment by Robbing Hoody - I taught Szoboszlai how to cushion half volleys (U6374)
posted 40 minutes ago
It’s actually a decent debate and one that should probably include Konate instead.

I’d say VVD is a better passer of the ball than both and he’s also really settled into the captains role. VVD also has consistently made the players next to him better. He’s been near faultless this season so as it stands VVD.
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VVD has a better long pass for sure, but the short passing game, plus dribbling out of tight spots goes to saliba imo. Splitting hairs tho really, they're both excellent.
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VVD never needs to dribble out of tight spaces as his readings of the game is the best in the game. Saliba regularly does have to dribble out of tight spaces to compensate for his excellent but inferior to VVD's reading of the game.
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Worst comment on this article tbf

posted on 22/1/24

It’s also obvs Saliba, same reason why I’d take Lavia over Modric - pointless article picking someone at the end of their career

posted on 22/1/24

comment by Timo Werner (U1109)
posted 17 minutes ago
It’s also obvs Saliba, same reason why I’d take Lavia over Modric - pointless article picking someone at the end of their career
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But you still felt the need to comment
Twice

posted on 22/1/24

What’s that got to do with anything?

comment by oldboy (U20062)

posted on 22/1/24

comment by Never Mind the Defending: Here’s Jürgen Klopp’s Liverpool (U3979)
posted 2 hours, 35 minutes ago
comment by Nickasaurus (U9257)
posted 46 minutes ago
comment by 19 + 6 > 20 + 3 (U22930)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Peter O'Hanraha-hanrahan (U1217)
posted 1 hour, 18 minutes ago
comment by oldboy2002 (U20062)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Never Mind the Defending: Here’s Jürgen Klopp’s Liverpool (U3979)
posted 7 minutes ago
Jokes aside Saliba is a quality player and likely won’t spend his best years at Arsenal.

But he’s nothing on VVD yet.
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YET is the key word. You Liverpool fans act like VVD has won tons of trophies. Hes won 1 solitary PL title and Champions league. Saliba had 10 years at the top to win the trophies.
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Well he's won the lot with us
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🎤 drop
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not really. If saliba were to go to madrid or something i'm sure he'd win atleast that. Still to be decided.
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Van Dijk took a Liverpool team with potential and turned them into perennial title winners. Saliba isn’t doing that yet.
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They've won one title in VVD 7 years there. Liverpool have one title in 34 years let that sink in lad. No perennial winners that you claim to be

posted on 22/1/24

I’m not sure it’s that obvious it’s Saliba, although I can see that as a neutral. But right here, right now? I don’t want to lose our captain who has also been one of our best players this season. We’re on for four trophies (again) and 33 is the new 30.

comment by oldboy (U20062)

posted on 22/1/24

comment by Robbing Hoody - I taught Szoboszlai how to cushion half volleys (U6374)
posted 5 minutes ago
I’m not sure it’s that obvious it’s Saliba, although I can see that as a neutral. But right here, right now? I don’t want to lose our captain who has also been one of our best players this season. We’re on for four trophies (again) and 33 is the new 30.
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Being on for 4 trophies and actually winning them is a big difference. Haha

posted on 22/1/24

comment by Robbing Hoody - I taught Szoboszlai how to cus... (U6374)
posted 9 minutes ago
I’m not sure it’s that obvious it’s Saliba, although I can see that as a neutral. But right here, right now? I don’t want to lose our captain who has also been one of our best players this season. We’re on for four trophies (again) and 33 is the new 30.
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VVD is obviously incredible but you’ll have like a year and a half left of him as a starter probably?

Saliba guarantees you 10 top years

posted on 22/1/24

comment by oldboy2002 (U20062)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Robbing Hoody - I taught Szoboszlai how to cushion half volleys (U6374)
posted 5 minutes ago
I’m not sure it’s that obvious it’s Saliba, although I can see that as a neutral. But right here, right now? I don’t want to lose our captain who has also been one of our best players this season. We’re on for four trophies (again) and 33 is the new 30.
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Being on for 4 trophies and actually winning them is a big difference. Haha
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Exactly. We managed to get two last year so I wouldn’t want to jealousies our chances by swapping with Saliba. Can see why the neutral may though although since VVD joining we’ve contested the biggest and smallest prizes pretty much every year. It’s great,

posted on 22/1/24

Last time not last year*

comment by oldboy (U20062)

posted on 22/1/24

comment by Robbing Hoody - I taught Szoboszlai how to cushion half volleys (U6374)
posted 1 minute ago
Last time not last year*
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You had a good team 2018/22 and finished second a lot. Congratulations

posted on 22/1/24

comment by Timo Werner (U1109)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Robbing Hoody - I taught Szoboszlai how to cus... (U6374)
posted 9 minutes ago
I’m not sure it’s that obvious it’s Saliba, although I can see that as a neutral. But right here, right now? I don’t want to lose our captain who has also been one of our best players this season. We’re on for four trophies (again) and 33 is the new 30.
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VVD is obviously incredible but you’ll have like a year and a half left of him as a starter probably?

Saliba guarantees you 10 top years
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I think VVD can play well into his 30’s. We’re seeing it more and more often but you never know.

I don’t think Saliba guarantees anything myself, it’s always hard to tell. Wasn’t so long ago people were saying this about Upamencano and that Konate was a crock.

posted on 22/1/24

comment by oldboy2002 (U20062)
posted 35 seconds ago
comment by Robbing Hoody - I taught Szoboszlai how to cushion half volleys (U6374)
posted 1 minute ago
Last time not last year*
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You had a good team 2018/22 and finished second a lot. Congratulations
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Cheers. To add number six was great. Maybe you’ll get to experience that one day.

If nothing else all those finals brought in oodles of prize money.

comment by oldboy (U20062)

posted on 22/1/24

comment by Robbing Hoody - I taught Szoboszlai how to cushion half volleys (U6374)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by oldboy2002 (U20062)
posted 35 seconds ago
comment by Robbing Hoody - I taught Szoboszlai how to cushion half volleys (U6374)
posted 1 minute ago
Last time not last year*
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You had a good team 2018/22 and finished second a lot. Congratulations
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Cheers. To add number six was great. Maybe you’ll get to experience that one day.

If nothing else all those finals brought in oodles of prize money.
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What's the point of all that money when players like caicedo are rejecting your current team for mid table Chelsea?! Hahaha

posted on 22/1/24

comment by oldboy2002 (U20062)
posted 42 seconds ago
comment by Robbing Hoody - I taught Szoboszlai how to cushion half volleys (U6374)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by oldboy2002 (U20062)
posted 35 seconds ago
comment by Robbing Hoody - I taught Szoboszlai how to cushion half volleys (U6374)
posted 1 minute ago
Last time not last year*
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You had a good team 2018/22 and finished second a lot. Congratulations
----------------------------------------------------------------------

Cheers. To add number six was great. Maybe you’ll get to experience that one day.

If nothing else all those finals brought in oodles of prize money.
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What's the point of all that money when players like caicedo are rejecting your current team for mid table Chelsea?! Hahaha

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Well it’s helped us double our wage bill and keep players like Salah by giving him £300k a week. Like having a top 3 elite manager by paying him a top 3 elite wage. It’s also allowed us to increase the capacity of the stadium by thousands and redevelop our training facilities and that’s before being able to build a world class squad.

This means we can bring on players like Jota and Nunez and Arsenal have to bring on Reiss Nelson and Eddie Nketia which is why we consistently challenge for the biggest prizes and Arsenal haven’t in well over a decade.

posted on 22/1/24

comment by Robbing Hoody - I taught Szoboszlai how to cushion half volleys (U6374)
posted 27 seconds ago
comment by oldboy2002 (U20062)
posted 42 seconds ago
comment by Robbing Hoody - I taught Szoboszlai how to cushion half volleys (U6374)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by oldboy2002 (U20062)
posted 35 seconds ago
comment by Robbing Hoody - I taught Szoboszlai how to cushion half volleys (U6374)
posted 1 minute ago
Last time not last year*
----------------------------------------------------------------------
You had a good team 2018/22 and finished second a lot. Congratulations
----------------------------------------------------------------------

Cheers. To add number six was great. Maybe you’ll get to experience that one day.

If nothing else all those finals brought in oodles of prize money.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
What's the point of all that money when players like caicedo are rejecting your current team for mid table Chelsea?! Hahaha

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Well it’s helped us double our wage bill and keep players like Salah by giving him £300k a week. Like having a top 3 elite manager by paying him a top 3 elite wage. It’s also allowed us to increase the capacity of the stadium by thousands and redevelop our training facilities and that’s before being able to build a world class squad.

This means we can bring on players like Jota and Nunez and Arsenal have to bring on Reiss Nelson and Eddie Nketia which is why we consistently challenge for the biggest prizes and Arsenal haven’t in well over a decade.
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🎤 drop

Boooom

posted on 22/1/24

comment by oldboy2002 (U20062)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by Robbing Hoody - I taught Szoboszlai how to cushion half volleys (U6374)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by oldboy2002 (U20062)
posted 35 seconds ago
comment by Robbing Hoody - I taught Szoboszlai how to cushion half volleys (U6374)
posted 1 minute ago
Last time not last year*
----------------------------------------------------------------------
You had a good team 2018/22 and finished second a lot. Congratulations
----------------------------------------------------------------------

Cheers. To add number six was great. Maybe you’ll get to experience that one day.

If nothing else all those finals brought in oodles of prize money.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
What's the point of all that money when players like caicedo are rejecting your current team for mid table Chelsea?! Hahaha

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Yep and we're definitely missing Caicedo.

My god, I knew the AFTV bunch were dense but didn't realise all Arsenal fans were as well.

comment by oldboy (U20062)

posted on 22/1/24

comment by 19 + 6 > 20 + 3 (U22930)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by oldboy2002 (U20062)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by Robbing Hoody - I taught Szoboszlai how to cushion half volleys (U6374)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by oldboy2002 (U20062)
posted 35 seconds ago
comment by Robbing Hoody - I taught Szoboszlai how to cushion half volleys (U6374)
posted 1 minute ago
Last time not last year*
----------------------------------------------------------------------
You had a good team 2018/22 and finished second a lot. Congratulations
----------------------------------------------------------------------

Cheers. To add number six was great. Maybe you’ll get to experience that one day.

If nothing else all those finals brought in oodles of prize money.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
What's the point of all that money when players like caicedo are rejecting your current team for mid table Chelsea?! Hahaha

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Yep and we're definitely missing Caicedo.

My god, I knew the AFTV bunch were dense but didn't realise all Arsenal fans were as well.
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Is that why all of you were crying your eyes out all summer?

posted on 22/1/24

Stupid discussion. Both world class players.

Liverpool fans will judge VVD by what he has done for them historically. Arsenal fans will base their opinions of Saliba on how good he might be in the future. Nobody will agree who is better.

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