Can't they want Dalot instead?
AWB would be good backup to a top tier fullback imo
If they are offering near enough to what we over paid for him then absolutely sell him
Are b list players who are on big money already still gonna go there after all the stuff about unpaid wages (and how rubbish it is as a place to live generally)?
comment by Two Balls, One Saka (U19684)
posted 2 minutes ago
Are b list players who are on big money already still gonna go there after all the stuff about unpaid wages (and how rubbish it is as a place to live generally)?
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The unpaid wages was Henderson's choice and also the reason he went to Ajax and not back to England. He will get the money but he can't come back here within a certain time period.
He's avoiding paying tax on his money.
comment by HB Maybe Beale wasn't the mastermind (U21935)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Two Balls, One Saka (U19684)
posted 2 minutes ago
Are b list players who are on big money already still gonna go there after all the stuff about unpaid wages (and how rubbish it is as a place to live generally)?
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The unpaid wages was Henderson's choice and also the reason he went to Ajax and not back to England. He will get the money but he can't come back here within a certain time period.
He's avoiding paying tax on his money.
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Yeah I'd heard that but also him and several others are struggling to get the wages? So yes he'd put them off as an extra slimey element to his transfer in order to avoid tax but also the club weren't playing ball.
comment by Busby (U19985)
posted 31 minutes ago
Can't they want Dalot instead?
AWB would be good backup to a top tier fullback imo
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AWB and Dalot both have strengths the other lacks. Personally, I've always slightly favoured Dalot, as a more technically accomplished player and better passer. I also think he's closer to the profile of the player we want at full back - and therefore means the team makes fewer tactical adjustments if he comes in as a substitute for the hypothetical first choice right back we need. But overall both are below the elite level we should aspire to and both are pretty good for a first choice player. So from that point of view, I'd sell whichever one we have an opportunity to move on for good money that we can reinvest.
If it’s £30m or more, bite their hands off
comment by Red Russian (U4715)
posted 17 minutes ago
comment by Busby (U19985)
posted 31 minutes ago
Can't they want Dalot instead?
AWB would be good backup to a top tier fullback imo
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AWB and Dalot both have strengths the other lacks. Personally, I've always slightly favoured Dalot, as a more technically accomplished player and better passer. I also think he's closer to the profile of the player we want at full back - and therefore means the team makes fewer tactical adjustments if he comes in as a substitute for the hypothetical first choice right back we need. But overall both are below the elite level we should aspire to and both are pretty good for a first choice player. So from that point of view, I'd sell whichever one we have an opportunity to move on for good money that we can reinvest.
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Pretty much this.
Awb has a nosebleed past the halfway line. His defensive awareness is also poor for a premier league player but his defensive recoveries are probably the best in the world.
Dalot is better past the half way line, still not great mind you and his defensive abilities are okish but it seems easy to get past him if you've got a bit of pace / skill.
comment by Sat Nav (U18243)
posted 45 seconds ago
If it’s £30m or more, bite their hands off
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Yeah I said as much earlier although I would hope the Saudis might be stupid enough to pay more close to the the 50 mill we paid
50 mill
comment by Roy's Keane (U11635)
posted 39 seconds ago
comment by Sat Nav (U18243)
posted 45 seconds ago
If it’s £30m or more, bite their hands off
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Yeah I said as much earlier although I would hope the Saudis might be stupid enough to pay more close to the the 50 mill we paid
50 mill
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closer *
I'm not long up
AWB would be good backup to a top tier fullback imo
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So would Dalot. I'd sell whichever one makes us the most money, which will probably be AWB to an English club.
All things being equal though, I'd be slightly more inclined to keep Dalot due to the reasons outlined by RR - plus he can cover LB.
As others have said I’d prefer Dalot as a backup due to his versatility in terms of LB / RB but mostly because AWB’s strengths are suited to a time that has passed. If this were the 90s or early 00s then I’d choose him over Dalot but fullbacks in the most successful teams are more focused on offensive productivity.
Hopefully they’ll put in a bid for Dalot as well.
comment by Kobbie The King Mainoo (U10026)
posted 8 seconds ago
Hopefully they’ll put in a bid for Dalot as well.
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This ^
If we can get anything over £35m then I would sell him.
A good offer, yes. It is an area we need improvement on but that's one of many.
Throw in Anthony Martial as a makeweight
comment by Martial Law (U13506)
posted 4 minutes ago
Throw in Anthony Martial as a makeweight
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Paperweight
comment by Sat Nav (U18243)
posted 16 minutes ago
comment by Martial Law (U13506)
posted 4 minutes ago
Throw in Anthony Martial as a makeweight
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Paperweight
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Deadweight
comment by Roy's Keane (U11635)
posted 2 hours, 9 minutes ago
If they are offering near enough to what we over paid for him then absolutely sell him
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Defensively hes useful? Hes English? and even though you paid way too much i remember somehow his 'family agents' only managed to get him 80k a week which at utd must have made the the lowest paid signing in the last 20 years? Idk if he signed an improve contract since but id say hes a useful enough squad player. Esp when you factor in replacing him would cost too.
I don’t think we are in a position to sell him at the moment. With Shaw being injured we have Dalot on the left and AWB on the right.
There is no cover for either of those.
comment by Ali - (U1192)
posted 1 hour, 48 minutes ago
comment by Red Russian (U4715)
posted 17 minutes ago
comment by Busby (U19985)
posted 31 minutes ago
Can't they want Dalot instead?
AWB would be good backup to a top tier fullback imo
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AWB and Dalot both have strengths the other lacks. Personally, I've always slightly favoured Dalot, as a more technically accomplished player and better passer. I also think he's closer to the profile of the player we want at full back - and therefore means the team makes fewer tactical adjustments if he comes in as a substitute for the hypothetical first choice right back we need. But overall both are below the elite level we should aspire to and both are pretty good for a first choice player. So from that point of view, I'd sell whichever one we have an opportunity to move on for good money that we can reinvest.
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Pretty much this.
Awb has a nosebleed past the halfway line. His defensive awareness is also poor for a premier league player but his defensive recoveries are probably the best in the world.
Dalot is better past the half way line, still not great mind you and his defensive abilities are okish but it seems easy to get past him if you've got a bit of pace / skill.
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I understand the logic, but AWB's defensive capability are far superior to Dalot's ability on the ball, imo.
Dalot rarely produces anything in the final third. I think he flatters to deceive because his technique is aesthetically pleasing. He LOOKS like he has a good cross, a good pass and would be comfortable on the ball, but he has no composer and poor decision making.
AWB has few defensive weaknesses, he loses his man on the back post too often, but that's improved since signing Casemiro, a player who actually marks dangerous space.
Would be great if we could move him on and get a bit of money for him, but at his age is he going to want to move there? I thought the latest rumour was we were going to big for Olise and use AWB as part exchange?
In regards to comparisons to Dalot I just don't get why people prefer Dalot. Don't get me wrong, they're both useless but this idea that Dalot is someone better offensively is nonsense (mainly due to this idea he was great last season before the WC when he wasn't). Dalot might like to cross and shoot but he's dreadful at both which is why he has less goals/assists than AWB during their time at the club (15 for AWB and 9 for Dalot). AWB might be terrible at a lot of things but he's actually better at progressing the ball into the opponents half and seems to combine better with the wide man in front while defensively he's vastly superior. Just because Dalot doesn't look afraid of the ball when he gets it doesn't mean he's any good.
AWB always looks an absolutely brilliant defender whenever I see him, just offers very little going forward. Should play him at CB
comment by Vidicschin (U3584)
posted 19 minutes ago
I don’t think we are in a position to sell him at the moment. With Shaw being injured we have Dalot on the left and AWB on the right.
There is no cover for either of those.
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I don’t disagree VC but I just feel this season is pretty much gone anyway. If we could sell AWB for a good fee now and replace him with a better player in the summer I think I would take that.
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posted on 23/1/24
Can't they want Dalot instead?
AWB would be good backup to a top tier fullback imo
posted on 23/1/24
If they are offering near enough to what we over paid for him then absolutely sell him
posted on 23/1/24
Are b list players who are on big money already still gonna go there after all the stuff about unpaid wages (and how rubbish it is as a place to live generally)?
posted on 23/1/24
comment by Two Balls, One Saka (U19684)
posted 2 minutes ago
Are b list players who are on big money already still gonna go there after all the stuff about unpaid wages (and how rubbish it is as a place to live generally)?
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The unpaid wages was Henderson's choice and also the reason he went to Ajax and not back to England. He will get the money but he can't come back here within a certain time period.
He's avoiding paying tax on his money.
posted on 23/1/24
comment by HB Maybe Beale wasn't the mastermind (U21935)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Two Balls, One Saka (U19684)
posted 2 minutes ago
Are b list players who are on big money already still gonna go there after all the stuff about unpaid wages (and how rubbish it is as a place to live generally)?
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The unpaid wages was Henderson's choice and also the reason he went to Ajax and not back to England. He will get the money but he can't come back here within a certain time period.
He's avoiding paying tax on his money.
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Yeah I'd heard that but also him and several others are struggling to get the wages? So yes he'd put them off as an extra slimey element to his transfer in order to avoid tax but also the club weren't playing ball.
posted on 23/1/24
comment by Busby (U19985)
posted 31 minutes ago
Can't they want Dalot instead?
AWB would be good backup to a top tier fullback imo
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AWB and Dalot both have strengths the other lacks. Personally, I've always slightly favoured Dalot, as a more technically accomplished player and better passer. I also think he's closer to the profile of the player we want at full back - and therefore means the team makes fewer tactical adjustments if he comes in as a substitute for the hypothetical first choice right back we need. But overall both are below the elite level we should aspire to and both are pretty good for a first choice player. So from that point of view, I'd sell whichever one we have an opportunity to move on for good money that we can reinvest.
posted on 23/1/24
If it’s £30m or more, bite their hands off
posted on 23/1/24
comment by Red Russian (U4715)
posted 17 minutes ago
comment by Busby (U19985)
posted 31 minutes ago
Can't they want Dalot instead?
AWB would be good backup to a top tier fullback imo
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AWB and Dalot both have strengths the other lacks. Personally, I've always slightly favoured Dalot, as a more technically accomplished player and better passer. I also think he's closer to the profile of the player we want at full back - and therefore means the team makes fewer tactical adjustments if he comes in as a substitute for the hypothetical first choice right back we need. But overall both are below the elite level we should aspire to and both are pretty good for a first choice player. So from that point of view, I'd sell whichever one we have an opportunity to move on for good money that we can reinvest.
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Pretty much this.
Awb has a nosebleed past the halfway line. His defensive awareness is also poor for a premier league player but his defensive recoveries are probably the best in the world.
Dalot is better past the half way line, still not great mind you and his defensive abilities are okish but it seems easy to get past him if you've got a bit of pace / skill.
posted on 23/1/24
comment by Sat Nav (U18243)
posted 45 seconds ago
If it’s £30m or more, bite their hands off
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Yeah I said as much earlier although I would hope the Saudis might be stupid enough to pay more close to the the 50 mill we paid
50 mill
posted on 23/1/24
comment by Roy's Keane (U11635)
posted 39 seconds ago
comment by Sat Nav (U18243)
posted 45 seconds ago
If it’s £30m or more, bite their hands off
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Yeah I said as much earlier although I would hope the Saudis might be stupid enough to pay more close to the the 50 mill we paid
50 mill
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closer *
I'm not long up
posted on 23/1/24
AWB would be good backup to a top tier fullback imo
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So would Dalot. I'd sell whichever one makes us the most money, which will probably be AWB to an English club.
All things being equal though, I'd be slightly more inclined to keep Dalot due to the reasons outlined by RR - plus he can cover LB.
posted on 23/1/24
As others have said I’d prefer Dalot as a backup due to his versatility in terms of LB / RB but mostly because AWB’s strengths are suited to a time that has passed. If this were the 90s or early 00s then I’d choose him over Dalot but fullbacks in the most successful teams are more focused on offensive productivity.
posted on 23/1/24
Hopefully they’ll put in a bid for Dalot as well.
posted on 23/1/24
comment by Kobbie The King Mainoo (U10026)
posted 8 seconds ago
Hopefully they’ll put in a bid for Dalot as well.
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This ^
posted on 23/1/24
If we can get anything over £35m then I would sell him.
posted on 23/1/24
A good offer, yes. It is an area we need improvement on but that's one of many.
posted on 23/1/24
Throw in Anthony Martial as a makeweight
posted on 23/1/24
comment by Martial Law (U13506)
posted 4 minutes ago
Throw in Anthony Martial as a makeweight
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Paperweight
posted on 23/1/24
comment by Sat Nav (U18243)
posted 16 minutes ago
comment by Martial Law (U13506)
posted 4 minutes ago
Throw in Anthony Martial as a makeweight
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Paperweight
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Deadweight
posted on 23/1/24
comment by Roy's Keane (U11635)
posted 2 hours, 9 minutes ago
If they are offering near enough to what we over paid for him then absolutely sell him
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Defensively hes useful? Hes English? and even though you paid way too much i remember somehow his 'family agents' only managed to get him 80k a week which at utd must have made the the lowest paid signing in the last 20 years? Idk if he signed an improve contract since but id say hes a useful enough squad player. Esp when you factor in replacing him would cost too.
posted on 23/1/24
I don’t think we are in a position to sell him at the moment. With Shaw being injured we have Dalot on the left and AWB on the right.
There is no cover for either of those.
posted on 23/1/24
comment by Ali - (U1192)
posted 1 hour, 48 minutes ago
comment by Red Russian (U4715)
posted 17 minutes ago
comment by Busby (U19985)
posted 31 minutes ago
Can't they want Dalot instead?
AWB would be good backup to a top tier fullback imo
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AWB and Dalot both have strengths the other lacks. Personally, I've always slightly favoured Dalot, as a more technically accomplished player and better passer. I also think he's closer to the profile of the player we want at full back - and therefore means the team makes fewer tactical adjustments if he comes in as a substitute for the hypothetical first choice right back we need. But overall both are below the elite level we should aspire to and both are pretty good for a first choice player. So from that point of view, I'd sell whichever one we have an opportunity to move on for good money that we can reinvest.
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Pretty much this.
Awb has a nosebleed past the halfway line. His defensive awareness is also poor for a premier league player but his defensive recoveries are probably the best in the world.
Dalot is better past the half way line, still not great mind you and his defensive abilities are okish but it seems easy to get past him if you've got a bit of pace / skill.
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I understand the logic, but AWB's defensive capability are far superior to Dalot's ability on the ball, imo.
Dalot rarely produces anything in the final third. I think he flatters to deceive because his technique is aesthetically pleasing. He LOOKS like he has a good cross, a good pass and would be comfortable on the ball, but he has no composer and poor decision making.
AWB has few defensive weaknesses, he loses his man on the back post too often, but that's improved since signing Casemiro, a player who actually marks dangerous space.
posted on 23/1/24
Would be great if we could move him on and get a bit of money for him, but at his age is he going to want to move there? I thought the latest rumour was we were going to big for Olise and use AWB as part exchange?
In regards to comparisons to Dalot I just don't get why people prefer Dalot. Don't get me wrong, they're both useless but this idea that Dalot is someone better offensively is nonsense (mainly due to this idea he was great last season before the WC when he wasn't). Dalot might like to cross and shoot but he's dreadful at both which is why he has less goals/assists than AWB during their time at the club (15 for AWB and 9 for Dalot). AWB might be terrible at a lot of things but he's actually better at progressing the ball into the opponents half and seems to combine better with the wide man in front while defensively he's vastly superior. Just because Dalot doesn't look afraid of the ball when he gets it doesn't mean he's any good.
posted on 23/1/24
AWB always looks an absolutely brilliant defender whenever I see him, just offers very little going forward. Should play him at CB
posted on 23/1/24
comment by Vidicschin (U3584)
posted 19 minutes ago
I don’t think we are in a position to sell him at the moment. With Shaw being injured we have Dalot on the left and AWB on the right.
There is no cover for either of those.
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I don’t disagree VC but I just feel this season is pretty much gone anyway. If we could sell AWB for a good fee now and replace him with a better player in the summer I think I would take that.
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