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Kalvin Phillips

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comment by #4zA (U22472)

posted on 26/1/24

at meased he rcvd 2 salaries whyke at Man Cs*

One if witch didnt pay tax on

posted on 26/1/24

comment by Forzus Maximus Dickwaddus (U22472)
posted 10 minutes ago
at meased he rcvd 2 salaries whyke at Man Cs*

One if witch didnt pay tax on
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Na, too shiiiit to get two salaries at city.

comment by Stoopo (U4707)

posted on 26/1/24

comment by Forzus Maximus Dickwaddus (U22472)
posted 21 minutes ago
at meased he rcvd 2 salaries whyke at Man Cs*

One if witch didnt pay tax on
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Sorry my translation app does compute that.

comment by Stoopo (U4707)

posted on 26/1/24

Doesn’t

posted on 26/1/24

His days were numbered when he came back to training grossly overweight.

Pep doesn't take prisoners.

comment by #4zA (U22472)

posted on 26/1/24

comment by Boris 'Inky’ Gibson (U5901)
posted 1 hour, 17 minutes ago
His days were numbered when he came back to training grossly overweight.

Pep doesn't take prisoners.
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….just PEDs

posted on 27/1/24

He looked to me at City like a player who lost all his self belief and confidence not surprisingly effectively being rejected by Pep which must really have hurt him and I sincerely hope West ham can restore that confidence back into KP and we see the player he was under Bielsa.

Also I can understand why he was overlooked in midfield
with the other options City have there but I was very surprised Pep didn't once utilise KP as a centre back which we as Leeds fans witnessed many times how Bielsa used him there to great effect in the same way Farke used Ampadu there atm.

posted on 27/1/24

I think he was a vanity project, with Pep wanting to prove he was as good a coach as Bielsa and you could see from a mile off it was never likely to work and that Kalvin just wasn't good enough to play at that level.
I am scratching my head wondering what Moyes sees in him and where he pigeon holes him into a strong midfield featuring the likes of Ward-Prowse, Soucek, Fornals, Paqueta, Cornet etc.
Lot of money spent on a player they don't need when they're crying out for a striker.

posted on 27/1/24

I think he was a vanity project, with Pep wanting to prove he was as good a coach as Bielsa and you could see from a mile off it was never likely to work and that Kalvin just wasn't good enough to play at that level.
I am scratching my head wondering what Moyes sees in him and where he pigeon holes him into a strong midfield featuring the likes of Ward-Prowse, Soucek, Fornals, Paqueta, Cornet etc.
Lot of money spent on a player they don't need when they're crying out for a striker.

posted on 27/1/24

I think he is one of several players who Bielsa improved beyond their natural ability, and who gave them a self-belief no other coach has been able to instil. When Bielsa arrived, Phillips and O'Kane were on a par with each other. When Bielsa left, Kalvin was an established England international. City was a massive leap for him. He had been at one club and I can understand the appeal of going to City, but when you look at the quality of their squad, he found himself a distant second or third choice to players like Rodri or Bernardo Silva. These players are the best in the world and Kalvin was out of his depth. The move to West Ham is good for him. I wouldn't be surprised to see a revival in form ahead of the Euro's this year, just like we are seeing with Bamford.

posted on 27/1/24

Just don't understand the 'not good enough for this level' and 'Out of his depth' comments.

Being voted the best England player at Euro '20 by England fans seems to suggest heavily in his favour and him getting regular PL football will see him playing for England in the summer - At 28 Kalvin's in his prime.

posted on 27/1/24

comment by The Very Rev Wilko (U21072)
posted 8 minutes ago
Just don't understand the 'not good enough for this level' and 'Out of his depth' comments.

Being voted the best England player at Euro '20 by England fans seems to suggest heavily in his favour and him getting regular PL football will see him playing for England in the summer - At 28 Kalvin's in his prime.
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I meant good enough for Man City, Rev

posted on 27/1/24

Think he is good enough when injury free and allowed a run in the side, but yes Rodri is a hard act to dislodge.

posted on 27/1/24

I honestly dont think people realise the fitness levels, top footballers need to be at now.

Barely played for 2 years, and people expect players just to come back and firing straight away.

Same with Bamford, now had abit of run of games, and is back.

it was the right move for Leeds, man city and phillips.

It just hasnt worked out, for a host of reasons.

posted on 27/1/24

Phillips and O'Kane were on the same level.

Now that made me laugh

posted on 27/1/24

I just don’t think they scouted him well enough. From what I’ve read, after a few training sessions they didn’t think he had the ability to play the way they do. I think most Leeds fans could have told them that having watched him for 6 years.

The role under Bielsa was tailor made for all his strengths, his brilliant long passing, tackling and covering, but he’s never been a Rodri or Busquets style player that Pep likes as a CDM, receiving the ball with 3 players around him and turning out and playing.

posted on 27/1/24

Moyes has been after him for 2 years so he clearly knows his strengths and will use KP appropriately and I expect KP will prove a lot of his critics wrong by just doing what he does best, keeping it simple, keeping the play flowing and picking out an excellent pass to create and assist for the West Ham forwards.

posted on 27/1/24

Good luck to him now, but still feels to me like we got relegated due to selling him to sit on City's bench.

He will be financially secure for life though, so I do understand his moving.

posted on 27/1/24

I should have said "partially feels to me..."

comment by Batty (U4664)

posted on 28/1/24

Really hoping this move gets Kalvin's career back
on track. One of my favourite players from MB's team.
Guarantees I'll be watching every West Ham game.

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