Read this the other day and not too sure if it would work. A few years back they tried the 10 yard penalty for dissent, but that was phased out.
The problem is, players have little respect for the officials, but I guess that's true about society in general these days.
The major problem with this seems to be, what if a 'keeper gets a blue?
Another idea that seems to be aimed at ruining the game of football. If a team went down to ten for ten minutes they would in that time put more men behind the ball, waste time, get feigned injury delays. In short it would contribute to ruining football as an entertainment.
VAR was a similar hair brained idea with all the delayed decision making that brings, as was asking linesmen to not put up their flags up when a player is offside, and when a player is injured by a foul tackle it’s the injured player that has to leave the field not the player who committed the offence.
Football became the most popular and most entertaining sport in the world before all this rubbish, let’s go back to how it was
Haven’t heard opinions of most managers about this but have read that the managers of Liverpool, Spurs, Chelsea, Real Madrid and Wolves have spoken out against the proposal
comment by wolfieinFL (U16306)
posted 20 hours, 37 minutes ago
Read this the other day and not too sure if it would work. A few years back they tried the 10 yard penalty for dissent, but that was phased out.
The problem is, players have little respect for the officials, but I guess that's true about society in general these days.
The major problem with this seems to be, what if a 'keeper gets a blue?
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The same thing that happens if they get a red and you can't sub someone on. Stick an outfield player in goam
A league table has been compiled of how many blue cards each team would have been given this season instead of yellow cards for dissent or tactical fouls.
Sheffield United would have had the most with 33 followed by Liverpool, Chelsea and Man Utd. Man City would have had the least with 15.
Wolves would have been 10th in the table with 25, 10 for dissent and 15 for tactical fouls. That means there would have been on average one part of each game where we would have been down to ten men for ten minutes.
It’s a good idea in theory, in practice not so sure.
However I believe something should be done to stop these offences.
Here's a scenario or two:-
What if more than one player shows dissent for the same incident? or
What if one or more players get the blue card while someone's already in the sin bin? Does a team go down to 9 or less men?
I'm sure referee's will be reluctant to have more than one player from the same team in the sin bin, which will negate the whole idea.
Bring back the ten yard rule, even it encroaches into the penalty area.
Only my thoughts on the crazy idea.
We'll just get the same inconsistency that we see with other decisions, interpretation will be down to the individual and the rules won't be tight enough to eliminate that.
The idea of a keeper getting a blue is the most interesting part of this actually, but otherwise you'd just get teams shathousing for ten minutes, killing the game until they're back to full strength.
Time wasting does need to be addressed although the time added on to the end of games nowadays does help make that less effective as a tactic. However the time added on is not consistently applied. In the recent Man Utd game at Molineux they added 6 minutes on but three VAR checks took longer than that let alone time for injuries and subs
The other things I would like to see addressed is cheating through diving and feigning injuries. There was a moment in the Brentford game when one of their players went down supposedly with cramp. He raised his leg and looked around for someone to help him relieve the pressure. Then when he realised the game wasn’t going to be stopped he jumped up and sprinted back 60 yards to help their defence.
I would like to see every game reviewed by a panel in the following days and if a player is spotted diving or feigning an injury then they should be given a retrospective yellow card. The authorities need to get serious about stopping these things rather than them just being accepted as part of the game
Great idea, mind you if it takes a long as a VAR check, it could take weeks.
You'll never stop players diving and ALL players do it, including ours. As for a panel reviewing all the matches to spot offenders is probably the most craziest post you've ever put up on here.
Yes all players dive. Our worst offender used to be Podence but, I'm sorry to say, I think it is now Cunha. Mind you he's Brazilian, so to be expected.
No question that reviewing the 10 games that take place every week is feasible. The premier league has more than enough funds to employ two people to do that. Only 20 hours a week plus writing a report. That would be hard work for an ex copper but not for a normal human being.
If my sensible post is the craziest I have ever posted then I have to take that as a compliment. As for the idiot wolfie it’s difficult to select which of his posts is the craziest. So many to choose from
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posted on 11/2/24
posted on 11/2/24
Read this the other day and not too sure if it would work. A few years back they tried the 10 yard penalty for dissent, but that was phased out.
The problem is, players have little respect for the officials, but I guess that's true about society in general these days.
The major problem with this seems to be, what if a 'keeper gets a blue?
posted on 11/2/24
Another idea that seems to be aimed at ruining the game of football. If a team went down to ten for ten minutes they would in that time put more men behind the ball, waste time, get feigned injury delays. In short it would contribute to ruining football as an entertainment.
VAR was a similar hair brained idea with all the delayed decision making that brings, as was asking linesmen to not put up their flags up when a player is offside, and when a player is injured by a foul tackle it’s the injured player that has to leave the field not the player who committed the offence.
Football became the most popular and most entertaining sport in the world before all this rubbish, let’s go back to how it was
posted on 11/2/24
Haven’t heard opinions of most managers about this but have read that the managers of Liverpool, Spurs, Chelsea, Real Madrid and Wolves have spoken out against the proposal
posted on 12/2/24
comment by wolfieinFL (U16306)
posted 20 hours, 37 minutes ago
Read this the other day and not too sure if it would work. A few years back they tried the 10 yard penalty for dissent, but that was phased out.
The problem is, players have little respect for the officials, but I guess that's true about society in general these days.
The major problem with this seems to be, what if a 'keeper gets a blue?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
The same thing that happens if they get a red and you can't sub someone on. Stick an outfield player in goam
posted on 12/2/24
A league table has been compiled of how many blue cards each team would have been given this season instead of yellow cards for dissent or tactical fouls.
Sheffield United would have had the most with 33 followed by Liverpool, Chelsea and Man Utd. Man City would have had the least with 15.
Wolves would have been 10th in the table with 25, 10 for dissent and 15 for tactical fouls. That means there would have been on average one part of each game where we would have been down to ten men for ten minutes.
posted on 13/2/24
It’s a good idea in theory, in practice not so sure.
However I believe something should be done to stop these offences.
posted on 13/2/24
Here's a scenario or two:-
What if more than one player shows dissent for the same incident? or
What if one or more players get the blue card while someone's already in the sin bin? Does a team go down to 9 or less men?
I'm sure referee's will be reluctant to have more than one player from the same team in the sin bin, which will negate the whole idea.
Bring back the ten yard rule, even it encroaches into the penalty area.
Only my thoughts on the crazy idea.
posted on 13/2/24
We'll just get the same inconsistency that we see with other decisions, interpretation will be down to the individual and the rules won't be tight enough to eliminate that.
The idea of a keeper getting a blue is the most interesting part of this actually, but otherwise you'd just get teams shathousing for ten minutes, killing the game until they're back to full strength.
posted on 14/2/24
Time wasting does need to be addressed although the time added on to the end of games nowadays does help make that less effective as a tactic. However the time added on is not consistently applied. In the recent Man Utd game at Molineux they added 6 minutes on but three VAR checks took longer than that let alone time for injuries and subs
posted on 14/2/24
The other things I would like to see addressed is cheating through diving and feigning injuries. There was a moment in the Brentford game when one of their players went down supposedly with cramp. He raised his leg and looked around for someone to help him relieve the pressure. Then when he realised the game wasn’t going to be stopped he jumped up and sprinted back 60 yards to help their defence.
I would like to see every game reviewed by a panel in the following days and if a player is spotted diving or feigning an injury then they should be given a retrospective yellow card. The authorities need to get serious about stopping these things rather than them just being accepted as part of the game
posted on 14/2/24
Great idea, mind you if it takes a long as a VAR check, it could take weeks.
posted on 14/2/24
You'll never stop players diving and ALL players do it, including ours. As for a panel reviewing all the matches to spot offenders is probably the most craziest post you've ever put up on here.
posted on 14/2/24
Yes all players dive. Our worst offender used to be Podence but, I'm sorry to say, I think it is now Cunha. Mind you he's Brazilian, so to be expected.
posted on 15/2/24
No question that reviewing the 10 games that take place every week is feasible. The premier league has more than enough funds to employ two people to do that. Only 20 hours a week plus writing a report. That would be hard work for an ex copper but not for a normal human being.
If my sensible post is the craziest I have ever posted then I have to take that as a compliment. As for the idiot wolfie it’s difficult to select which of his posts is the craziest. So many to choose from
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