I agree. Not for me.
Give one of the young lads a chance.
No thanks... would rather put the money towards Eze or Olise or a Proper CF
It depends on the bigger picture, and that is who our other targets are and whether we can get them.
Personally, and i think this has been borne out in recent weeks, we have the need for a proper striker, and I think that is where our main budget should go.
That would push Son back to LW and if Werner were a back up to Son, then perfect! It's a cheap back up at £15m.
Son/Werner/Richi/NEWSigning/Deki/BJ.
Decent options !
Add a DM and that for me is the key First XI signings.
Then just look for some back up at LB and CB
It's a no from me.
He may chip in with the odd assist and goal, but the guy is woeful in front of goal and despite his supposed speed, very rarely takes on the opposition full back.
The money would be better spent on someone else
Not for me. Too inconsistent and looks like Bambi on ice most of the time
Son/Werner/Richi/NEWSigning/Deki/BJ.
Decent options !
Not exciting though is it? Take Werner out and add two new faces instead of one then we could be talking.
Lets not forget Manor Solomon as well.
Initially I was excited with his speed and incessant runs into the box, but the lack of finishing has taken its toll specially during games when he was the one getting the chances to put them away and kept fluffing them.
He is at a bargain price and comes with experience so maybe worth a punt as long as he is happy to play second fiddles
He’s £15m isn’t he? Dependant on wages I’d have him at Liverpool
For me it's a yes. He's not been outstanding by any stretch but he's versatile and gives us squad depth for a European campaign. If Richy and Son are out, who can realistically play up top? No one else. He's an option.
It's all very well saying Eze/Olise but one of them alone would smash our budget pretty quickly. Now that it's likely we'll end up without CL money, we could do a lot worse than Werner. He's contributed far more than Gio has in his time at Spurs and he's a fraction of the cost.
I'm not sure which way this is going to go. One minute Ange is saying "he's been very good for us", and the next "him coming in WAS very helpful for us" so he likes him but is talking in the past tense so maybe Ange has other ideas.
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He’s £15m isn’t he? Dependant on wages I’d have him at Liverpool
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He’s £15m isn’t he? Dependant on wages I’d have him at Liverpool
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No way.
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£15m? I mean Kash you were all for getting Shaqiri at that price.
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It depends on the bigger picture, and that is who our other targets are and whether we can get them.
Personally, and i think this has been borne out in recent weeks, we have the need for a proper striker, and I think that is where our main budget should go.
That would push Son back to LW and if Werner were a back up to Son, then perfect! It's a cheap back up at £15m.
Son/Werner/Richi/NEWSigning/Deki/BJ.
Decent options !
Add a DM and that for me is the key First XI signings.
Then just look for some back up at LB and CB
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This argument of not having a decent forward/striker does not really make sense when you see Arsenal have Jesus who is hardly a decent forward. He can't score to save his life!
But the way they play, everyone seem to chip in with goals. We have players who have recemtly found themselves in goal scoringchance but failed to take them. Maybe it is the finishing that needs working on
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Son/Werner/Richi/NEWSigning/Deki/BJ.
Decent options !
Not exciting though is it? Take Werner out and add two new faces instead of one then we could be talking.
Lets not forget Manor Solomon as well.
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Depends on the new striker.
Sure if we add a qualify CF and you have Olise or Eze on the left then great, and if we can afford that, brilliant. But that's gonna be at least £100m and we probably need a no.6 too.
So we will need to spend a good £140m-£160m before we start trying to add back ups to CB, LB.
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Son/Werner/Richi/NEWSigning/Deki/BJ.
Decent options !
Not exciting though is it? Take Werner out and add two new faces instead of one then we could be talking.
Lets not forget Manor Solomon as well.
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Depends on the new striker.
Sure if we add a qualify CF and you have Olise or Eze on the left then great, and if we can afford that, brilliant. But that's gonna be at least £100m and we probably need a no.6 too.
So we will need to spend a good £140m-£160m before we start trying to add back ups to CB, LB.
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We will sell players this summer as well. We have young CB's in Phillips, Dorrington and Luka Vuskovic. All will be a year older and another CB could block their own progression.
If we sign someone like Kelly to cover LB and CB on a free transfer then job done?
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He’s £15m isn’t he? Dependant on wages I’d have him at Liverpool
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No way.
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£15m? I mean Kash you were all for getting Shaqiri at that price.
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Yes he is cheap but there would a time in the season where we will rely on Werner to turn up and that will always end up badly.
Shaq at least turned up. Had clutch moments.
Yes and No
Yes all day if used as a squad player and impact sub.
No way if used in first team.
I’ll give him the cross vs Barca too actually
I'm confused with Werner, always seems like he could/should do better but has nearly always underwhelmed me when I've watched him, tough call on signing him imo
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posted 22 minutes ago
It depends on the bigger picture, and that is who our other targets are and whether we can get them.
Personally, and i think this has been borne out in recent weeks, we have the need for a proper striker, and I think that is where our main budget should go.
That would push Son back to LW and if Werner were a back up to Son, then perfect! It's a cheap back up at £15m.
Son/Werner/Richi/NEWSigning/Deki/BJ.
Decent options !
Add a DM and that for me is the key First XI signings.
Then just look for some back up at LB and CB
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This argument of not having a decent forward/striker does not really make sense when you see Arsenal have Jesus who is hardly a decent forward. He can't score to save his life!
But the way they play, everyone seem to chip in with goals. We have players who have recemtly found themselves in goal scoringchance but failed to take them. Maybe it is the finishing that needs working on
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We are not Arsenal. City have Halaand but coped without him is seasons past.
Our attackers are inferior to theirs and while all 3 of us face low blocks, they have the individual quality to break these down more than we do. We really lack any sort of ball into the box option, except when Richi plays and hes been blighted with injuries and despite decent scoring return this season, does miss chances.
My ideal would be Toney
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He’s £15m isn’t he? Dependant on wages I’d have him at Liverpool
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No way.
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£15m? I mean Kash you were all for getting Shaqiri at that price.
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Yes he is cheap but there would a time in the season where we will rely on Werner to turn up and that will always end up badly.
Shaq at least turned up. Had clutch moments.
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The Shaq comparison is a really good because both players are clearly better than their price tag represents. He was a great squad player for Liverpool during their title run and was peanuts. Just because Werner isn't Hazard or Ronaldo, it doesn't mean we shouldn't buy him. I personally think it's a no brainer but I can see why he frustrates others.
I think part of it is because the general feeling in the Prem is that he's a failed striker, when, if you ignore his deficiencies up top, is a very capable winger that hugs that left touchline the way Ange likes his wingers to do. He's very disciplined and those bursts of speed and low crosses are often lethal.
No one appears to be chastising Kulu for barely scoring of late but for some reason Werner is judged entirely on goals which I think is unfair. I really hope we take him.
Werner is being judged because we have an option to buy him or not.
He is being judged on goals because he misses so many sitters or balloons them over the bar as we have witnessed.
Agreed, he does the winger role very well and fits the system but if he is missing chance after chance what's the point? We might as well resign ourselves to 5th or 6th every season.
Kulu is the same in terms of end product but he is younger and can play another position. Werner is in his prime and this hammy injury could follow him into next aeason.
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Werner is being judged because we have an option to buy him or not.
He is being judged on goals because he misses so many sitters or balloons them over the bar as we have witnessed.
Agreed, he does the winger role very well and fits the system but if he is missing chance after chance what's the point? We might as well resign ourselves to 5th or 6th every season.
Kulu is the same in terms of end product but he is younger and can play another position. Werner is in his prime and this hammy injury could follow him into next aeason.
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Kulu was 40m, Werner only 13-15m. Neither are prolific but since Werner came in, he's provided more assists and goalscoring opportunities than Kulu so, despite the age thing, the data suggests he's definitely worth it at that low price.
I just don't really get the resistance to his signing. He's a useful squad player. I think there seems to be an odd belief that signing Werner means no Eze or statement signing. I don't think that's true. He'll come in not instead of these guys but with them.
The data might add but the eye test doesn't. There's a reason why Chelsea sold him and RB loaned him out.
If we are chasing a game, he comes on as sub and finds himself on a 1 v 1 with the GK would you be confident?
Forget the price and wages. From a pure footballing pov he typifies Spursy. Bottles it when it really matters.
Kulu has just turned 24. He still has room to improve.
Nah. We should be setting our sights higher. It was fine signing him on loan at the time in January. Added a bit of back up when we were short and suffering from injuries. To go ahead and sign a 28 year old in the summer who we know is not the best in front of goal and won't improve shows a lack of ambition.
If Levy wants to prove to everyone he is changing his ways, we can't settle for less anymore.
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posted on 2/5/24
I agree. Not for me.
Give one of the young lads a chance.
posted on 2/5/24
No thanks... would rather put the money towards Eze or Olise or a Proper CF
posted on 2/5/24
It depends on the bigger picture, and that is who our other targets are and whether we can get them.
Personally, and i think this has been borne out in recent weeks, we have the need for a proper striker, and I think that is where our main budget should go.
That would push Son back to LW and if Werner were a back up to Son, then perfect! It's a cheap back up at £15m.
Son/Werner/Richi/NEWSigning/Deki/BJ.
Decent options !
Add a DM and that for me is the key First XI signings.
Then just look for some back up at LB and CB
posted on 2/5/24
It's a no from me.
He may chip in with the odd assist and goal, but the guy is woeful in front of goal and despite his supposed speed, very rarely takes on the opposition full back.
The money would be better spent on someone else
posted on 2/5/24
Not for me. Too inconsistent and looks like Bambi on ice most of the time
posted on 2/5/24
Son/Werner/Richi/NEWSigning/Deki/BJ.
Decent options !
Not exciting though is it? Take Werner out and add two new faces instead of one then we could be talking.
Lets not forget Manor Solomon as well.
posted on 2/5/24
Initially I was excited with his speed and incessant runs into the box, but the lack of finishing has taken its toll specially during games when he was the one getting the chances to put them away and kept fluffing them.
He is at a bargain price and comes with experience so maybe worth a punt as long as he is happy to play second fiddles
posted on 2/5/24
He’s £15m isn’t he? Dependant on wages I’d have him at Liverpool
posted on 2/5/24
For me it's a yes. He's not been outstanding by any stretch but he's versatile and gives us squad depth for a European campaign. If Richy and Son are out, who can realistically play up top? No one else. He's an option.
It's all very well saying Eze/Olise but one of them alone would smash our budget pretty quickly. Now that it's likely we'll end up without CL money, we could do a lot worse than Werner. He's contributed far more than Gio has in his time at Spurs and he's a fraction of the cost.
I'm not sure which way this is going to go. One minute Ange is saying "he's been very good for us", and the next "him coming in WAS very helpful for us" so he likes him but is talking in the past tense so maybe Ange has other ideas.
posted on 2/5/24
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He’s £15m isn’t he? Dependant on wages I’d have him at Liverpool
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No way.
posted on 2/5/24
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He’s £15m isn’t he? Dependant on wages I’d have him at Liverpool
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No way.
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£15m? I mean Kash you were all for getting Shaqiri at that price.
posted on 2/5/24
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 22 minutes ago
It depends on the bigger picture, and that is who our other targets are and whether we can get them.
Personally, and i think this has been borne out in recent weeks, we have the need for a proper striker, and I think that is where our main budget should go.
That would push Son back to LW and if Werner were a back up to Son, then perfect! It's a cheap back up at £15m.
Son/Werner/Richi/NEWSigning/Deki/BJ.
Decent options !
Add a DM and that for me is the key First XI signings.
Then just look for some back up at LB and CB
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This argument of not having a decent forward/striker does not really make sense when you see Arsenal have Jesus who is hardly a decent forward. He can't score to save his life!
But the way they play, everyone seem to chip in with goals. We have players who have recemtly found themselves in goal scoringchance but failed to take them. Maybe it is the finishing that needs working on
posted on 2/5/24
comment by Luka Brasi 🔫 The Sons of Ange 'If we l... (U22178)
posted 8 minutes ago
Son/Werner/Richi/NEWSigning/Deki/BJ.
Decent options !
Not exciting though is it? Take Werner out and add two new faces instead of one then we could be talking.
Lets not forget Manor Solomon as well.
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Depends on the new striker.
Sure if we add a qualify CF and you have Olise or Eze on the left then great, and if we can afford that, brilliant. But that's gonna be at least £100m and we probably need a no.6 too.
So we will need to spend a good £140m-£160m before we start trying to add back ups to CB, LB.
posted on 2/5/24
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posted 1 minute ago
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posted 8 minutes ago
Son/Werner/Richi/NEWSigning/Deki/BJ.
Decent options !
Not exciting though is it? Take Werner out and add two new faces instead of one then we could be talking.
Lets not forget Manor Solomon as well.
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Depends on the new striker.
Sure if we add a qualify CF and you have Olise or Eze on the left then great, and if we can afford that, brilliant. But that's gonna be at least £100m and we probably need a no.6 too.
So we will need to spend a good £140m-£160m before we start trying to add back ups to CB, LB.
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We will sell players this summer as well. We have young CB's in Phillips, Dorrington and Luka Vuskovic. All will be a year older and another CB could block their own progression.
If we sign someone like Kelly to cover LB and CB on a free transfer then job done?
posted on 2/5/24
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posted 6 minutes ago
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posted 10 seconds ago
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He’s £15m isn’t he? Dependant on wages I’d have him at Liverpool
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No way.
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£15m? I mean Kash you were all for getting Shaqiri at that price.
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Yes he is cheap but there would a time in the season where we will rely on Werner to turn up and that will always end up badly.
Shaq at least turned up. Had clutch moments.
posted on 2/5/24
Well, he had one vs Utd
posted on 2/5/24
Yes and No
Yes all day if used as a squad player and impact sub.
No way if used in first team.
posted on 2/5/24
I’ll give him the cross vs Barca too actually
posted on 2/5/24
I'm confused with Werner, always seems like he could/should do better but has nearly always underwhelmed me when I've watched him, tough call on signing him imo
posted on 2/5/24
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posted 22 minutes ago
It depends on the bigger picture, and that is who our other targets are and whether we can get them.
Personally, and i think this has been borne out in recent weeks, we have the need for a proper striker, and I think that is where our main budget should go.
That would push Son back to LW and if Werner were a back up to Son, then perfect! It's a cheap back up at £15m.
Son/Werner/Richi/NEWSigning/Deki/BJ.
Decent options !
Add a DM and that for me is the key First XI signings.
Then just look for some back up at LB and CB
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This argument of not having a decent forward/striker does not really make sense when you see Arsenal have Jesus who is hardly a decent forward. He can't score to save his life!
But the way they play, everyone seem to chip in with goals. We have players who have recemtly found themselves in goal scoringchance but failed to take them. Maybe it is the finishing that needs working on
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We are not Arsenal. City have Halaand but coped without him is seasons past.
Our attackers are inferior to theirs and while all 3 of us face low blocks, they have the individual quality to break these down more than we do. We really lack any sort of ball into the box option, except when Richi plays and hes been blighted with injuries and despite decent scoring return this season, does miss chances.
My ideal would be Toney
posted on 2/5/24
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He’s £15m isn’t he? Dependant on wages I’d have him at Liverpool
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No way.
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£15m? I mean Kash you were all for getting Shaqiri at that price.
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Yes he is cheap but there would a time in the season where we will rely on Werner to turn up and that will always end up badly.
Shaq at least turned up. Had clutch moments.
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The Shaq comparison is a really good because both players are clearly better than their price tag represents. He was a great squad player for Liverpool during their title run and was peanuts. Just because Werner isn't Hazard or Ronaldo, it doesn't mean we shouldn't buy him. I personally think it's a no brainer but I can see why he frustrates others.
I think part of it is because the general feeling in the Prem is that he's a failed striker, when, if you ignore his deficiencies up top, is a very capable winger that hugs that left touchline the way Ange likes his wingers to do. He's very disciplined and those bursts of speed and low crosses are often lethal.
No one appears to be chastising Kulu for barely scoring of late but for some reason Werner is judged entirely on goals which I think is unfair. I really hope we take him.
posted on 2/5/24
Werner is being judged because we have an option to buy him or not.
He is being judged on goals because he misses so many sitters or balloons them over the bar as we have witnessed.
Agreed, he does the winger role very well and fits the system but if he is missing chance after chance what's the point? We might as well resign ourselves to 5th or 6th every season.
Kulu is the same in terms of end product but he is younger and can play another position. Werner is in his prime and this hammy injury could follow him into next aeason.
posted on 2/5/24
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posted 16 minutes ago
Werner is being judged because we have an option to buy him or not.
He is being judged on goals because he misses so many sitters or balloons them over the bar as we have witnessed.
Agreed, he does the winger role very well and fits the system but if he is missing chance after chance what's the point? We might as well resign ourselves to 5th or 6th every season.
Kulu is the same in terms of end product but he is younger and can play another position. Werner is in his prime and this hammy injury could follow him into next aeason.
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Kulu was 40m, Werner only 13-15m. Neither are prolific but since Werner came in, he's provided more assists and goalscoring opportunities than Kulu so, despite the age thing, the data suggests he's definitely worth it at that low price.
I just don't really get the resistance to his signing. He's a useful squad player. I think there seems to be an odd belief that signing Werner means no Eze or statement signing. I don't think that's true. He'll come in not instead of these guys but with them.
posted on 2/5/24
The data might add but the eye test doesn't. There's a reason why Chelsea sold him and RB loaned him out.
If we are chasing a game, he comes on as sub and finds himself on a 1 v 1 with the GK would you be confident?
Forget the price and wages. From a pure footballing pov he typifies Spursy. Bottles it when it really matters.
Kulu has just turned 24. He still has room to improve.
posted on 2/5/24
Nah. We should be setting our sights higher. It was fine signing him on loan at the time in January. Added a bit of back up when we were short and suffering from injuries. To go ahead and sign a 28 year old in the summer who we know is not the best in front of goal and won't improve shows a lack of ambition.
If Levy wants to prove to everyone he is changing his ways, we can't settle for less anymore.
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