Well I'll just be over here trying to enjoy a football game, please do let me know how much fun the correct decisions are. Thanks

comment by Bãleș left boot (U22081)
posted 16 minutes ago
Well I'll just be over here trying to enjoy a football game, please do let me know how much fun the correct decisions are. Thanks
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I still enjoy it right now and don't get what all the fuss is about. Technology can bridge the gap to make certain decisions quicker.

VAR also puts a much needed microscope on Refs. To get rid of it now would be a backward step for the game.

They are not good enough and need help even though they make a pig's ear of it.

But it's still refs making decisions..

I don't think the microscope was needed, really. There was a few high profile decisions that people cried about but it's not like every game there was blatantly wrong decisions. It's a contact sport at the end of the day, you can't remove subjectivity. You just move it off the TV. It's so banal

FIVE-SEASON VAR NET SCORE

Brighton +6
Aston Villa +4
Liverpool +4
Everton +3
Man City +3
Man United +3
Newcastle +3
Chelsea +2
Crystal Palace +2
Tottenham -3
West Ham -5
Arsenal -7
Wolves -17

+ Relates to decisions for - decisions against

https://twitter.com/SkySportsPL/status/1790858991263719633?t=IzEqCmA1q8e_A9otYzzDZw&s=19

The Antony Gordan incident emphasises my point. Nice to hear a player who likes the idea. At the end he says either get rid or get better.

It's actually easier to in this situation to get better because the mistakes they are making are awful. Just awful.

If you get rid of VAR the standard and level of referees will only get worse. And so will the game.

comment by Bãleș left boot (U22081)
posted 5 minutes ago
I don't think the microscope was needed, really. There was a few high profile decisions that people cried about but it's not like every game there was blatantly wrong decisions. It's a contact sport at the end of the day, you can't remove subjectivity. You just move it off the TV. It's so banal
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That ref in the Chelsea V Barca game when he didn't give all those pens will happen alot more.

comment by Luka Brasi (U22178)
posted 4 minutes ago
If you get rid of VAR the standard and level of referees will only get worse. And so will the game.
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That only holds true if you get enjoyment from correct decisions

comment by Luka Brasi (U22178)
posted 6 minutes ago
https://twitter.com/SkySportsPL/status/1790858991263719633?t=IzEqCmA1q8e_A9otYzzDZw&s=19

The Antony Gordan incident emphasises my point. Nice to hear a player who likes the idea. At the end he says either get rid or get better.

It's actually easier to in this situation to get better because the mistakes they are making are awful. Just awful.
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Can't see the link cos of location but is he talking today?? Facker dived. Yeah there's contact but it's never a pen

comment by Bãleș left boot (U22081)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Luka Brasi (U22178)
posted 4 minutes ago
If you get rid of VAR the standard and level of referees will only get worse. And so will the game.
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That only holds true if you get enjoyment from correct decisions
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I do.

comment by Luka Brasi (U22178)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Bãleș left boot (U22081)
posted 5 minutes ago
I don't think the microscope was needed, really. There was a few high profile decisions that people cried about but it's not like every game there was blatantly wrong decisions. It's a contact sport at the end of the day, you can't remove subjectivity. You just move it off the TV. It's so banal
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That ref in the Chelsea V Barca game when he didn't give all those pens will happen alot more.
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Watched some highlights of that game recently. Turned into an urban myth as the actual 'penalties' were nothing at all except for perhaps one. Even Barca got shafted on one decision. But the internet and all that trying to make it an infamous game.

fair enough

I don't agree with the assertion that refs will get worse without var. It's literally the same guys making the same calls. Some things might get missed, sure, and that will drive people insane. But those people will always find something to cry about

comment by Bãleș left boot (U22081)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Luka Brasi (U22178)
posted 6 minutes ago
https://twitter.com/SkySportsPL/status/1790858991263719633?t=IzEqCmA1q8e_A9otYzzDZw&s=19

The Antony Gordan incident emphasises my point. Nice to hear a player who likes the idea. At the end he says either get rid or get better.

It's actually easier to in this situation to get better because the mistakes they are making are awful. Just awful.
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Can't see the link cos of location but is he talking today?? Facker dived. Yeah there's contact but it's never a pen
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The Amrabat challenge inside the box? Pen all day. His sock is ripped and his ankle is grazed lol.

comment by Luka Brasi (U22178)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Bãleș left boot (U22081)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Luka Brasi (U22178)
posted 6 minutes ago
https://twitter.com/SkySportsPL/status/1790858991263719633?t=IzEqCmA1q8e_A9otYzzDZw&s=19

The Antony Gordan incident emphasises my point. Nice to hear a player who likes the idea. At the end he says either get rid or get better.

It's actually easier to in this situation to get better because the mistakes they are making are awful. Just awful.
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Can't see the link cos of location but is he talking today?? Facker dived. Yeah there's contact but it's never a pen
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The Amrabat challenge inside the box? Pen all day. His sock is ripped and his ankle is grazed lol.
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Fair dos I just watched it again, he catches him. But that kinda proves my point. It's a collision in a contact sport - you're gonna get those where a referee decides it's not a foul but others think it is. You're not gonna fix that unless you change the rules. Then you really are ruining the sport in pursuit of correctness

comment by Cinciwolf-----JA606 NFL fantasy champ 2023 (U11551)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Luka Brasi (U22178)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Bãleș left boot (U22081)
posted 5 minutes ago
I don't think the microscope was needed, really. There was a few high profile decisions that people cried about but it's not like every game there was blatantly wrong decisions. It's a contact sport at the end of the day, you can't remove subjectivity. You just move it off the TV. It's so banal
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That ref in the Chelsea V Barca game when he didn't give all those pens will happen alot more.
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Watched some highlights of that game recently. Turned into an urban myth as the actual 'penalties' were nothing at all except for perhaps one. Even Barca got shafted on one decision. But the internet and all that trying to make it an infamous game.
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There were two pens not given. Shirt pull on Drogba and a Barca player raising his hands when Ballack shoots.

comment by Bãleș left boot (U22081)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Luka Brasi (U22178)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Bãleș left boot (U22081)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Luka Brasi (U22178)
posted 6 minutes ago
https://twitter.com/SkySportsPL/status/1790858991263719633?t=IzEqCmA1q8e_A9otYzzDZw&s=19

The Antony Gordan incident emphasises my point. Nice to hear a player who likes the idea. At the end he says either get rid or get better.

It's actually easier to in this situation to get better because the mistakes they are making are awful. Just awful.
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Can't see the link cos of location but is he talking today?? Facker dived. Yeah there's contact but it's never a pen
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The Amrabat challenge inside the box? Pen all day. His sock is ripped and his ankle is grazed lol.
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Fair dos I just watched it again, he catches him. But that kinda proves my point. It's a collision in a contact sport - you're gonna get those where a referee decides it's not a foul but others think it is. You're not gonna fix that unless you change the rules. Then you really are ruining the sport in pursuit of correctness
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VAR can fix that incident without changing the rules. VAR needs to correct their mates more often to prove it can work and the correct decision is made. It's so simple.

Sorry but

You're talking about var as if it's not just another referee in a room

FWIW I agree with the mythical var bot that makes every decision that no one disagrees with instantly. Like goal line tech

I just don't get the short termism of thinking disposing with VAR will make everything better. I just don't think it will in the long run.

And you will probably get another team like Wolves in the future who wants to put VAR back on the table when it all goes pete tong for them.

But looks like we could be heading for a VARxit anyway..

comment by Luka Brasi (U22178)
posted 3 minutes ago
I just don't get the short termism of thinking disposing with VAR will make everything better. I just don't think it will in the long run.
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I agree, I don't think it will make everything better. But it will address something that's making football worse right now

Actually if AI and machine learning continues at the pace it has recently, we could probably have an actual var bot in a few years

VAR or no VAR, Varpool will still be given several ridiculously soft penalties every year

Billy