Don't know about the width of the line. Last season one of the refs referred to it as being one screen pixel wide and then talking about an overlap that was impossible as per his own definition.

I think you're mistaken about the standing offside minus one foot thing, because all it takes is the defender to take a little skip forwards at the moment of the pass to leave the forward offside. I don't see any essential difference to what defenders and attackers do now. The only difference is that the forward has a slighly broader margin to play with.

It might be fractionally easier for a forward to break the offside line, but I don't think it would be that significant a difference on what we already have.

As a closing remark, virtually every change in the offside rule over the past century has been motivated by the attempt to favour attacking play. I think the suggestion I've made is in line with that aim, and wouldn't cause defending teams to drop back to the edge of their own goal, which is what the rule basically seeks to avoid.

Each to their own though. It's not like the rule is going to be changed based on what a couple of ja606ers think.

wow!
not exactly a decisive poll with a grand total of 15 votes, but still, 3* made a come back!

I only realised this recently, but they are freezing the frame at the moment where they THINK the ball has left the boot.
There's an element of guesswork.
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Yeah, but without VAR you are relying on the linesman to know when the ball leaves the foot, while also looking at the player making the run at the exact same time, while also running at 100mph down the touchline to keep up with play. That's not even guesswork.

Just watching Alaves vs Getafe now. Perfectly good goal for Alaves ruled out for offside and VAR saved the day. Looked close at first but with the lines drawn it's miles onside.

VAR sorted it in less than a minute too. In England it would have taken 5 minutes for them to get the wrong decision in the end, which shows the disrespect they have for VAR in England. It's like they're sabotaging and want VAR removed so they can decide games without the scrutiny and criticism that VAR throws at them every game for their incompetence.

do you not get what I'm saying to an extent though?
when they're measuring the offside to half a centimetre, but in fact if you'd stopped it 0.1 seconds later (which in some instances might be just as likely to be right), then actually, there's 50 centimeters the other way.

it makes no sense, and it's completely misleading to be thinking that it can be measured to that level of detail.

if they want to use it for something like what you described today, fine. that's option 3*. just replay it, without putting flippin lines across the pitch, and if you can see straightaway it was definitely on/off side, then go with that. otherwise leave it with the onfield decision.

even if you could measure it to the mm with 100% accuracy im not sure id particularly want that, but if you can't (which for the reasons I've mentioned, you can't), then don't flippin pretend you can!!!!

IMO, that's all in your head because of the way VAR is implemented. Can't you see the machine isn't the problem? It's PGMOL that needs to go, not VAR. Nobody is claiming it's perfect and neither was it intended to be perfect or to eliminate all error and controversy.

if it's not intended to be perfect then why are they measuring to the nearest millimeter?

comment by BillNick (U23088)
posted 7 seconds ago
if it's not intended to be perfect then why are they measuring to the nearest millimeter?
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Measuring what? Offside?

The answer is very straightforward. Draw wider lines to allow for a bigger area of the benefit of the doubt. Have like a half a meter radius zone that is acceptable and if that means more goals allowed then great. Surely no one would begrudge that?

comment by Robb Garnacho (U22716)
posted 59 minutes ago
The answer is very straightforward. Draw wider lines to allow for a bigger area of the benefit of the doubt. Have like a half a meter radius zone that is acceptable and if that means more goals allowed then great. Surely no one would begrudge that?
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Half a metre? What would this mean if you're a defender? Would you even practice the offside trap anymore? Safest thing would be to just stay behind the attacker at all times and this will lead to you going back and back towards your own goal everytime opposition has the ball.

Offside helps to maintain play in the middle of the pitch and make it intricate instead of ping pong with reduced chance of offside. IMO offside must remain strictly offside.

Also we can stop talking about the lines and their thickness because there'll be that automatic offside VAR system they've been using in the continent from next season, no?

we've become obsessed by using technology to measure absolutely everything to the nth degree. It's not just football or sport, it's everywhere. If we can conceive of a way of measuring something, in next to no time there will be a company with experts who specialise in measuring this thing to the most precise detail. We then become so obsessed with the notion that measuring in this detail is of paramount importance, that we forget to ask what purpose measuring it serves and what value it adds. And in the case of VAR for offsides, we also forget to ask whether these 'precise' measurements are actually accurate (which they aren't).

Use semi automated like in the euros so far