Talk a team in Saudi want Richarlison. I’d see that as plausible.
Not keen on Toney. Definitely potential problems with character there.
Hopefully like Vicario or VDV the club pull another ‘lesser’ known talent from somewhere.
What are toney' perceived attitude problems.
Obviously I know about the gambling issue.....but is there other stuff !?!?
Not sure Toney fits the profile foe a ange team, in fact I'm sure he doesn't, he prefers someone more like Son, Watkins would be ideal or a peak Defoe
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comment by Diamondlights (U20501)
posted 18 minutes ago
Isak is 10 Times the player Toney is
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Of course he is but bigger and better clubs are in for him. We don't stand a chance. That's why Toney is more our level at the moment. He's a damn sight better than Richy, that's for sure. Of all the realistic striker options we have, he's the only one that could guarantee you maybe 20+ goals each year. I think he'd be a shrewd buy personally plus he's English which helps the foreign allowance elsewhere.
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Ive been impressed with Richarlison this season.
Soring at a rate of 2 in every 3 games (based on minutes played) and a goal or assist every 100 minutes. Pretty good in a stop start season.
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You're dressing those numbers up a little.
He has 11 goals in 28 league games this year.
He had 1 in 27 last year.
His best scoring season ever, when the team was built around him was 13 goals in 36 games for Everton.
He's not a prolific player. Fine, so what else does he bring? You could argue that a player like Jesus at Arsenal or Havertz etc also aren't prolific but they offer so much more than Richy does. If he's not scoring, which is roughly 2 in every 3 games, he's not doing an awful lot. His touch is terrible and he's not a creator.
Sorry, but if we get a decent offer we have to snap their hands off and look elsewhere. Thankfully I think Ange thinks the same way. he's just not good enough.
The numbers are right there in black and white under his career stats...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richarlison
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First up, i said this season. You know, in the system we now play, under Ange, when he plays through the middle...not last season's Conte negative sheeite playing from wide, playing second fiddle to Kane
If anything you are dressing things up 11 goals in 28 games this year, actually those 28 games have been 16 starts, 6 of teh others have been 11 minutes or less, and the rest ranging from 23 to 45 minutes.
Hence why looking at total minutes (about 1500) gives a better impression than dressing up the equivalent of 17 games in minutes as 28 games.
In terms of minutes per gaol he is way up there outperforming many others.
Now I have not said or made the case that he is a world class striker and should be our No.9, but he has a very decent return of goals and rate of scoring this season, considering he's had about 3 spells of injury, had surgery and only really go a decent run of games from December to Feb, when he got 9 in 10 starts.
I'd keep him as 1 of 2 forwards, unless we get an irresistible offer for him,.
https://twitter.com/SkySportsNews/status/1788911531041677687?t=LljE-Z7GYi0itEXqctPklA&s=19
Ange lets out a fragile fart around the 30 sec mark.
comment by junction8 (U1074)
posted 1 hour, 8 minutes ago
What are toney' perceived attitude problems.
Obviously I know about the gambling issue.....but is there other stuff !?!?
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Starting arguing with his team mates during a game not that long ago. And as a result was benched for a few games after which. Enough to tell me that if with his talent he can’t make a struggling Brentford team, this is an attitude issue.
https://talksport.com/football/1816664/brentford-ivan-toney-nathan-collins-argument-aston-villa/amp/
Found a link. I’d think if you’d missed most the season due to gambling you’d have to have a bit of an argument to start giving your team mate pelters during and after a game. Plus the fact he was benched after shows Frank believed Toney was in the wrong.
comment by Luka Brasi (U22178)
posted 43 minutes ago
https://twitter.com/SkySportsNews/status/1788911531041677687?t=LljE-Z7GYi0itEXqctPklA&s=19
Ange lets out a fragile fart around the 30 sec mark.
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comment by BelfastSpur (U15068)
posted 19 minutes ago
https://talksport.com/football/1816664/brentford-ivan-toney-nathan-collins-argument-aston-villa/amp/
Found a link. I’d think if you’d missed most the season due to gambling you’d have to have a bit of an argument to start giving your team mate pelters during and after a game. Plus the fact he was benched after shows Frank believed Toney was in the wrong.
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He was very open about leaving Brenford as well. Showing their fans a lack of respect.
Anyone think Kane want's to come back?......
comment by Custardeyes (U4500)
posted 17 hours, 31 minutes ago
comment by Diamondlights (U20501)
posted 10 minutes ago
Isak is 10 Times the player Toney is
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10/1
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it's a good bet...don't tell Ivan
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posted 6 hours, 21 minutes ago
Anyone think Kane want's to come back?......
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Doubt he wants to deal with Levy ever again.
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posted 3 minutes ago
comment by JustCallMeTed (U21528)
posted 6 hours, 21 minutes ago
Anyone think Kane want's to come back?......
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Doubt he wants to deal with Levy ever again.
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Wrong. Why is there a buy back clause with first option to Spurs?
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posted 3 minutes ago
comment by JustCallMeTed (U21528)
posted 6 hours, 21 minutes ago
Anyone think Kane want's to come back?......
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Doubt he wants to deal with Levy ever again.
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Wrong. Why is there a buy back clause with first option to Spurs?
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Well he tried to f*ck him over on the day he was due to fly out to Germany, so good luck with that.
Besides shouldn’t we be building for the future, surely somebody in their mid 20’s is a better option?
comment by Automatic For The People (U21889)
posted 23 minutes ago
Besides shouldn’t we be building for the future, surely somebody in their mid 20’s is a better option?
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Agreed
Toney seems like a massive risk.
knowing how ange wants to play, if you are looking at who you might get you need to ask yourself "will he run"
if he doesn't then forget it, right away.
comment by Automatic For The People (U21889)
posted 12 hours, 1 minute ago
Besides shouldn’t we be building for the future, surely somebody in their mid 20’s is a better option?
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I want us to win something NOW!
Signing Kane to win trophies didn't work out for Bayern.. jus sayin
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posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Automatic For The People (U21889)
posted 12 hours, 1 minute ago
Besides shouldn’t we be building for the future, surely somebody in their mid 20’s is a better option?
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I want us to win something NOW!
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comment by Bãleș left boot (U22081)
posted 5 hours, 4 minutes ago
Signing Kane to win trophies didn't work out for Bayern.. jus sayin
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You need to look a little deeper than that....he banged in 44 goals.
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posted on 16/5/24
Talk a team in Saudi want Richarlison. I’d see that as plausible.
Not keen on Toney. Definitely potential problems with character there.
Hopefully like Vicario or VDV the club pull another ‘lesser’ known talent from somewhere.
posted on 16/5/24
What are toney' perceived attitude problems.
Obviously I know about the gambling issue.....but is there other stuff !?!?
posted on 16/5/24
Not sure Toney fits the profile foe a ange team, in fact I'm sure he doesn't, he prefers someone more like Son, Watkins would be ideal or a peak Defoe
posted on 16/5/24
comment by fridgeboy (U1053)
posted 42 minutes ago
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 44 minutes ago
comment by fridgeboy (U1053)
posted 37 seconds ago
comment by Diamondlights (U20501)
posted 18 minutes ago
Isak is 10 Times the player Toney is
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Of course he is but bigger and better clubs are in for him. We don't stand a chance. That's why Toney is more our level at the moment. He's a damn sight better than Richy, that's for sure. Of all the realistic striker options we have, he's the only one that could guarantee you maybe 20+ goals each year. I think he'd be a shrewd buy personally plus he's English which helps the foreign allowance elsewhere.
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Ive been impressed with Richarlison this season.
Soring at a rate of 2 in every 3 games (based on minutes played) and a goal or assist every 100 minutes. Pretty good in a stop start season.
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You're dressing those numbers up a little.
He has 11 goals in 28 league games this year.
He had 1 in 27 last year.
His best scoring season ever, when the team was built around him was 13 goals in 36 games for Everton.
He's not a prolific player. Fine, so what else does he bring? You could argue that a player like Jesus at Arsenal or Havertz etc also aren't prolific but they offer so much more than Richy does. If he's not scoring, which is roughly 2 in every 3 games, he's not doing an awful lot. His touch is terrible and he's not a creator.
Sorry, but if we get a decent offer we have to snap their hands off and look elsewhere. Thankfully I think Ange thinks the same way. he's just not good enough.
The numbers are right there in black and white under his career stats...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richarlison
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First up, i said this season. You know, in the system we now play, under Ange, when he plays through the middle...not last season's Conte negative sheeite playing from wide, playing second fiddle to Kane
If anything you are dressing things up 11 goals in 28 games this year, actually those 28 games have been 16 starts, 6 of teh others have been 11 minutes or less, and the rest ranging from 23 to 45 minutes.
Hence why looking at total minutes (about 1500) gives a better impression than dressing up the equivalent of 17 games in minutes as 28 games.
In terms of minutes per gaol he is way up there outperforming many others.
Now I have not said or made the case that he is a world class striker and should be our No.9, but he has a very decent return of goals and rate of scoring this season, considering he's had about 3 spells of injury, had surgery and only really go a decent run of games from December to Feb, when he got 9 in 10 starts.
I'd keep him as 1 of 2 forwards, unless we get an irresistible offer for him,.
posted on 16/5/24
https://twitter.com/SkySportsNews/status/1788911531041677687?t=LljE-Z7GYi0itEXqctPklA&s=19
Ange lets out a fragile fart around the 30 sec mark.
posted on 16/5/24
comment by junction8 (U1074)
posted 1 hour, 8 minutes ago
What are toney' perceived attitude problems.
Obviously I know about the gambling issue.....but is there other stuff !?!?
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Starting arguing with his team mates during a game not that long ago. And as a result was benched for a few games after which. Enough to tell me that if with his talent he can’t make a struggling Brentford team, this is an attitude issue.
posted on 16/5/24
https://talksport.com/football/1816664/brentford-ivan-toney-nathan-collins-argument-aston-villa/amp/
Found a link. I’d think if you’d missed most the season due to gambling you’d have to have a bit of an argument to start giving your team mate pelters during and after a game. Plus the fact he was benched after shows Frank believed Toney was in the wrong.
posted on 16/5/24
Attitude*
posted on 16/5/24
comment by Luka Brasi (U22178)
posted 43 minutes ago
https://twitter.com/SkySportsNews/status/1788911531041677687?t=LljE-Z7GYi0itEXqctPklA&s=19
Ange lets out a fragile fart around the 30 sec mark.
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posted on 16/5/24
comment by BelfastSpur (U15068)
posted 19 minutes ago
https://talksport.com/football/1816664/brentford-ivan-toney-nathan-collins-argument-aston-villa/amp/
Found a link. I’d think if you’d missed most the season due to gambling you’d have to have a bit of an argument to start giving your team mate pelters during and after a game. Plus the fact he was benched after shows Frank believed Toney was in the wrong.
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He was very open about leaving Brenford as well. Showing their fans a lack of respect.
posted on 17/5/24
Anyone think Kane want's to come back?......
posted on 17/5/24
comment by Custardeyes (U4500)
posted 17 hours, 31 minutes ago
comment by Diamondlights (U20501)
posted 10 minutes ago
Isak is 10 Times the player Toney is
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10/1
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it's a good bet...don't tell Ivan
posted on 17/5/24
comment by JustCallMeTed (U21528)
posted 6 hours, 21 minutes ago
Anyone think Kane want's to come back?......
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Doubt he wants to deal with Levy ever again.
posted on 17/5/24
comment by Automatic For The People (U21889)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by JustCallMeTed (U21528)
posted 6 hours, 21 minutes ago
Anyone think Kane want's to come back?......
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Doubt he wants to deal with Levy ever again.
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Wrong. Why is there a buy back clause with first option to Spurs?
posted on 17/5/24
comment by Luka Brasi (U22178)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Automatic For The People (U21889)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by JustCallMeTed (U21528)
posted 6 hours, 21 minutes ago
Anyone think Kane want's to come back?......
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Doubt he wants to deal with Levy ever again.
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Wrong. Why is there a buy back clause with first option to Spurs?
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Well he tried to f*ck him over on the day he was due to fly out to Germany, so good luck with that.
posted on 17/5/24
Besides shouldn’t we be building for the future, surely somebody in their mid 20’s is a better option?
posted on 17/5/24
comment by Automatic For The People (U21889)
posted 23 minutes ago
Besides shouldn’t we be building for the future, surely somebody in their mid 20’s is a better option?
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Agreed
posted on 17/5/24
Toney seems like a massive risk.
knowing how ange wants to play, if you are looking at who you might get you need to ask yourself "will he run"
if he doesn't then forget it, right away.
posted on 17/5/24
comment by Automatic For The People (U21889)
posted 12 hours, 1 minute ago
Besides shouldn’t we be building for the future, surely somebody in their mid 20’s is a better option?
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I want us to win something NOW!
posted on 17/5/24
Signing Kane to win trophies didn't work out for Bayern.. jus sayin
posted on 17/5/24
comment by JustCallMeTed (U21528)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Automatic For The People (U21889)
posted 12 hours, 1 minute ago
Besides shouldn’t we be building for the future, surely somebody in their mid 20’s is a better option?
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I want us to win something NOW!
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posted on 18/5/24
comment by Bãleș left boot (U22081)
posted 5 hours, 4 minutes ago
Signing Kane to win trophies didn't work out for Bayern.. jus sayin
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You need to look a little deeper than that....he banged in 44 goals.
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