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Why Ten Hag Still Has To Go

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posted on 28/5/24

The injuries aren't due to him, and he doesn't rush players back from injury.
Even Jose?
Training sessions too intense. I keep reading we aren't fit enough.
He didn't spend £400 million, the club did. Prices are nothing to do with him. Neither should who we buy, and won't be now.

posted on 28/5/24

comment by manusince52 (U9692)
posted 2 minutes ago
The injuries aren't due to him, and he doesn't rush players back from injury.
Even Jose?
Training sessions too intense. I keep reading we aren't fit enough.
He didn't spend £400 million, the club did. Prices are nothing to do with him. Neither should who we buy, and won't be now.
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They are due to him. It's been reported numerous times this season, that his training sessions are too intense and that's causing all the problems.

The money spent was spent on the players he wanted. Sorry mate but that's the truth.

posted on 28/5/24

I agree, as the great Claude once said

ITS TIMMMMMMEEE TO GO!

posted on 28/5/24

I am 100% Ten Hag in. I hope he stays for 10 years.👍

posted on 28/5/24

comment by UmaThurmans_BigToe (U22864)
posted 1 minute ago
I agree, as the great Claude once said

ITS TIMMMMMMEEE TO GO!
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Any argument in favour of Ten Hag doesn't work.

'We can't keep sacking managers so we need to stand by him'

Why? Chelsea sacked managers ruthlessly for the best part of 20 years, yet they still won everything and regularly bagged huge honours.

Get him out. Don't be blinded by his Oleball performance at Wembley against a tired Man City.

Ten Hag out.

posted on 28/5/24

comment by Posh Mufc Great Hafi Not Arrogant Just Better (U6578)
posted 2 minutes ago
I am 100% Ten Hag in. I hope he stays for 10 years.👍
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You aren't serious.

posted on 28/5/24

The style of play and transfers should be concerning, in fact probably transfers is the main one.

If you could see a clear plan/desired style of play that made sense and it was more a case of the players struggling to adjust affecting results it wouldn't be so bad.

posted on 28/5/24

comment by Two Balls, One Saka (U19684)
posted 1 minute ago
The style of play and transfers should be concerning, in fact probably transfers is the main one.

If you could see a clear plan/desired style of play that made sense and it was more a case of the players struggling to adjust affecting results it wouldn't be so bad.
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This is spot on.

It also derails the 'Arteta finished 8th at Arsenal, so this is just Ten Hag's 20/21 Arsenal season' spectacularly.

When Arsenal struggled under Arteta, you could still see a clear style of play being implemented and what he was trying to do.

The issue Arsenal and Arteta had was he didn't have the players to execute what he wanted successfully.

Ten Hag has no gameplan, no style of play etc.

Sack him now.

posted on 28/5/24

Posted this on one of your older articles....

As an impartial Spurs fan, I'm amazed there are so many fans in support of keeping Ten Hag. On the face of it, yeah two trophies in two seasons sound great but that's because you have very talented individuals that can win any game on any given day. Let's face it, you rode your luck getting to Wembley in the first place.

Personally I wouldn't even focus on the trophies. They're a distraction. Your performances actually make an 8th place finish flattering. That's the truth of it. Of all the top flight leagues around Europe, only Sheff United have a worse record in terms of shots faced this season. I'll say it again - that's EVERY top flight league in Europe.

Now I know you've had your injuries, sure, more than most I'd imagine but the biggest problem I can see is a total shift in philosophy based on those injuries. Surely that can't be right?! I understand you need to be pragmatic with a weakened squad but changing your entire style? Come on. You're Manchester United for christ's sake and you had more than enough to be able to control more games than you did last year. You were routinely outplayed by many bottom half teams last year and that alone should make you question ETH.

When we played Chelsea at home in November, we went down to 9 men and continued playing a high line. Some would say that's absolute suicide, and sure, we lost the game 4-1 but it was a lot closer than the scoreline suggested. I came away from that, not crestfallen at the result, but optimistic that we had focus, a real direction, a clear philosophy that can inform the recruitment team where to look for areas to strengthen. That single-mindedness from Ange, whilst sometimes messy and painful, is the very bedrock that change comes from. ETH's willingness to change his philosophy based on injuries I think is at the very heart of what's currently going wrong. Do the recruitment team now look for players to fine tune your counter-attacking squad, or pivot completely and look for those comfortable in a more controlled system? It causes fuzzy thinking.

The reason why it all worked for him at Ajax is because the philosophy was the club's, not his. He fit into their playing style, not the other way around. I'm just not sure he has the character and personality to drag the club with him down a path less travelled.

As someone who knows a lot about how Poch operates I'm frankly staggered you're not all clamouring for him to get the job. He'd be perfect. He'd be brilliantly aligned with the club's philosophy of youth development and he'd create a unity not seen at the club for a long time now and he plays more progressive, front-foot, controlled football. If anyone is suited to the role it's him. Way more than Tuchel and the laughable suggestion of Zidane.

Credit to you for your loyalty but you have to judge ETH on performances and not let the romance of the cup cloud your vision. As an outsider, I completely agree with the OP.

posted on 28/5/24

Ahh, just seen your response.

posted on 28/5/24

comment by Pierrepoint Strangeways (U9489)
posted 10 minutes ago
comment by Two Balls, One Saka (U19684)
posted 1 minute ago
The style of play and transfers should be concerning, in fact probably transfers is the main one.

If you could see a clear plan/desired style of play that made sense and it was more a case of the players struggling to adjust affecting results it wouldn't be so bad.
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This is spot on.

It also derails the 'Arteta finished 8th at Arsenal, so this is just Ten Hag's 20/21 Arsenal season' spectacularly.

When Arsenal struggled under Arteta, you could still see a clear style of play being implemented and what he was trying to do.

The issue Arsenal and Arteta had was he didn't have the players to execute what he wanted successfully.

Ten Hag has no gameplan, no style of play etc.

Sack him now.


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My response is still the same, Fridgeboy.

Ten Hag is not good enough and needs to be sacked.

Would Tottenham have Ten Hag? No

Would West Ham have Ten Hag? No

Would Chelsea have Ten Hag? No

Would Arsenal have Ten Hag? No

Would Villa have Ten Hag? No

Would Brighton have Ten Hag? No

Ten Hag out.

posted on 28/5/24

comment by Pierrepoint Strangeways (U9489)
posted 17 seconds ago
comment by Pierrepoint Strangeways (U9489)
posted 10 minutes ago
comment by Two Balls, One Saka (U19684)
posted 1 minute ago
The style of play and transfers should be concerning, in fact probably transfers is the main one.

If you could see a clear plan/desired style of play that made sense and it was more a case of the players struggling to adjust affecting results it wouldn't be so bad.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
This is spot on.

It also derails the 'Arteta finished 8th at Arsenal, so this is just Ten Hag's 20/21 Arsenal season' spectacularly.

When Arsenal struggled under Arteta, you could still see a clear style of play being implemented and what he was trying to do.

The issue Arsenal and Arteta had was he didn't have the players to execute what he wanted successfully.

Ten Hag has no gameplan, no style of play etc.

Sack him now.


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My response is still the same, Fridgeboy.

Ten Hag is not good enough and needs to be sacked.

Would Tottenham have Ten Hag? No

Would West Ham have Ten Hag? No

Would Chelsea have Ten Hag? No

Would Arsenal have Ten Hag? No

Would Villa have Ten Hag? No

Would Brighton have Ten Hag? No

Ten Hag out.
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But your mum had you / Nobb. Maybe she should be out for that heinous crime alone!

posted on 28/5/24

comment by Clever - son son son - 'Ten Haaaagendas please' of the year Runner Up 2021 (U18599)
posted 27 seconds ago
comment by Pierrepoint Strangeways (U9489)
posted 17 seconds ago
comment by Pierrepoint Strangeways (U9489)
posted 10 minutes ago
comment by Two Balls, One Saka (U19684)
posted 1 minute ago
The style of play and transfers should be concerning, in fact probably transfers is the main one.

If you could see a clear plan/desired style of play that made sense and it was more a case of the players struggling to adjust affecting results it wouldn't be so bad.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
This is spot on.

It also derails the 'Arteta finished 8th at Arsenal, so this is just Ten Hag's 20/21 Arsenal season' spectacularly.

When Arsenal struggled under Arteta, you could still see a clear style of play being implemented and what he was trying to do.

The issue Arsenal and Arteta had was he didn't have the players to execute what he wanted successfully.

Ten Hag has no gameplan, no style of play etc.

Sack him now.


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My response is still the same, Fridgeboy.

Ten Hag is not good enough and needs to be sacked.

Would Tottenham have Ten Hag? No

Would West Ham have Ten Hag? No

Would Chelsea have Ten Hag? No

Would Arsenal have Ten Hag? No

Would Villa have Ten Hag? No

Would Brighton have Ten Hag? No

Ten Hag out.
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But your mum had you / Nobb. Maybe she should be out for that heinous crime alone!
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I'm not Robb. That's something I haven't heard in a few years now!

Funny enough Robb actually has me filtered because I disagreed with him about Ole in 2021

Ten Hag out.

posted on 28/5/24

comment by Pierrepoint Strangeways (U9489)
posted 16 minutes ago
comment by UmaThurmans_BigToe (U22864)
posted 1 minute ago
I agree, as the great Claude once said

ITS TIMMMMMMEEE TO GO!
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Any argument in favour of Ten Hag doesn't work.

'We can't keep sacking managers so we need to stand by him'

Why? Chelsea sacked managers ruthlessly for the best part of 20 years, yet they still won everything and regularly bagged huge honours.

Get him out. Don't be blinded by his Oleball performance at Wembley against a tired Man City.

Ten Hag out.
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The argument always seems to be that patience is what breeds success. No it doesn't. The data on that argument is completely flawed because most managers in jobs for an extended period of time are only still there because they're doing a good job. Keeping someone wholly unsuitable on the basis that time is the key, is just madness. All it does is extend the misery.

After two seasons you'd expect to see positive change. You're way worse than you were last year. You have no clear identity and a lot of ETH's signings, many of whom he's worked with before, have flopped. Only Martinez looks a decent player but he's very injury prone. The club have spent a fortune buying players that he no doubt signed off on and he couldn't have got it more wrong. Varane and Casemiro? Why sign either of them if you're looking to control a game with a high line? You need pace and mobility and neither have it. There are so many reasons why it isn't working yet here you are, still backing him. Madness.

posted on 28/5/24

Eth out depends on who the replacement would be for me.

posted on 28/5/24

"here you all are" I meant, more as a United fans collective. Fully aware you're vey much ETH out Pierrepoint.

posted on 28/5/24

comment by Baz tard - Ineos your face, proud owner of the 100k comment, fack you Michael Edward’s and your 5m, th (U19119)
posted 49 seconds ago
Eth out depends on who the replacement would be for me.
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Poch
Tuchel
De Zerbi
Zidane

All miles better than him. From a pure ‘project’ perspective I’d go and get Poch.

posted on 28/5/24

comment by fridgeboy (U1053)
posted 10 seconds ago
"here you all are" I meant, more as a United fans collective. Fully aware you're vey much ETH out Pierrepoint.
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Sound mate.

Interesting to see what you guys do next season. Especially if you back Ange heavily.

posted on 28/5/24

comment by Pierrepoint Strangeways: Ten Hag Out (U9489)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Baz tard - Ineos your face, proud owner of the 100k comment, fack you Michael Edward’s and your 5m, th (U19119)
posted 49 seconds ago
Eth out depends on who the replacement would be for me.
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Poch
Tuchel
De Zerbi
Zidane

All miles better than him. From a pure ‘project’ perspective I’d go and get Poch.
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The prophecy states that POCH in heralds in destiny to restore utd to the hallowed promised lands

posted on 28/5/24

comment by Pierrepoint Strangeways: Ten Hag Out (U9489)
posted 56 seconds ago
comment by Baz tard - Ineos your face, proud owner of the 100k comment, fack you Michael Edward’s and your 5m, th (U19119)
posted 49 seconds ago
Eth out depends on who the replacement would be for me.
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Poch
Tuchel
De Zerbi
Zidane

All miles better than him. From a pure ‘project’ perspective I’d go and get Poch.
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Poch is the only choice here. Tuchel and Di Zerbi are both very antagonistic and if the new structure means less control from the coaching staff, they wouldn't like it. Poch is the long term thinker. Just imagine what he could do at United with the money you guys have. If he joined you guys, I'd start to worry.

posted on 28/5/24

comment by Pierrepoint Strangeways: Ten Hag Out (U9489)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by fridgeboy (U1053)
posted 10 seconds ago
"here you all are" I meant, more as a United fans collective. Fully aware you're vey much ETH out Pierrepoint.
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Sound mate.

Interesting to see what you guys do next season. Especially if you back Ange heavily.
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That's the main problem we have. We never back managers. Not fully. Levy will always try and find a cheaper alternative which naturally leaves us eternal nearly men. He's generally happy if we get CL every season as that maximises profit, which has always been his priority over success.

posted on 28/5/24

I wonder how many ETH In/Out articles we're going to have…..

posted on 28/5/24

comment by Sat Nav (U18243)
posted 4 minutes ago
I wonder how many ETH In/Out articles we're going to have…..
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People are indecisive, I’m hokekoke with that

posted on 28/5/24

comment by Sat Nav (U18243)
posted 3 minutes ago
I wonder how many ETH In/Out articles we're going to have…..
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Too many

comment by kinsang (U3346)

posted on 28/5/24

comment by Insufferable-Piffle (U4388)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Sat Nav (U18243)
posted 3 minutes ago
I wonder how many ETH In/Out articles we're going to have…..
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Too many
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It's all Ineos' fault, they need to make a decision to save us from this..........
Although then it will be why we should / shouldn't have kept ETH or chose the wrong new guy

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