Giving the current manager a 2 year extension only to sack him 4 months later wont be seen as doing things on the cheap will it?
comment by Barf Vader (U15867)
posted 26 seconds ago
Giving the current manager a 2 year extension only to sack him 4 months later wont be seen as doing things on the cheap will it?
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Depends. There may be clauses in his new contract that state he can be let go if things aren’t met.
They only own 25% of your club. Jim is not going to spend his fortune. Plus the roof needs fixing.
We’re limited by PSR, Robb.
We’re going to be (relatively) very tight this summer unless the club can raise some serious funds through sales.
We know funds are going to be tight with FFP and our poor spending in recent years. Also any new manager would need EtH getting a large pay off which now won’t be needed. Maybe the figures they were told didn’t mention added funds from sales?
Being cautious is the sensible play I think.
Perhaps cheaper signings who may not be on the radar will be the way to go too. Players who actually fit into the style we want to play. We shouldn't be too proud to shop in the Championship either.
comment by Diafol Coch 77 🏴 (U2462)
posted 2 minutes ago
Being cautious is the sensible play I think.
Perhaps cheaper signings who may not be on the radar will be the way to go too. Players who actually fit into the style we want to play. We shouldn't be too proud to shop in the Championship either.
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It’s going to have to be astute bargains.
The squad needs five or six decent players, and if we have £150m to spend, well, the maths isn’t difficult.
Going after £70m-£80m players isn’t going to work.
Bayern have just bought a new CB and rumours are Kompany wants to sell de Ligt. EtH must be getting a boner at the chance of getting another ex player.
No CL knockout last season and no CL this season means less funds. We need new players, new training and new stadium.
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posted 1 hour, 31 minutes ago
comment by Diafol Coch 77 🏴 (U2462)
posted 2 minutes ago
Being cautious is the sensible play I think.
Perhaps cheaper signings who may not be on the radar will be the way to go too. Players who actually fit into the style we want to play. We shouldn't be too proud to shop in the Championship either.
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It’s going to have to be astute bargains.
The squad needs five or six decent players, and if we have £150m to spend, well, the maths isn’t difficult.
Going after £70m-£80m players isn’t going to work.
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I may get slated for this but I think Ampadu would be decent. Can play CB and DM. Gets stuck in. Breaks up play well. Has good experience. Wouldn't cost that much and would count as homegrown.
I'd rather three or four in the £20m bracket. Players who have something to prove but who are also decent technically and can get around the pitch. We see them at other teams. Why not United?
When we have our first team available we're not too bad. We just need players who can step in and play the same way as well.
comment by rosso says the time has come to unlock the unl... (U17054)
posted 4 hours, 4 minutes ago
We’re limited by PSR, Robb.
We’re going to be (relatively) very tight this summer unless the club can raise some serious funds through sales.
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This is only true up to the end of June. After that point the 21/22 £120m loss falls of the PSR cycle. This year is expected to be close to break even (H1 posted a 7m loss). 22/23 was a loss of 28.7m for a total loss over the three years of around £150m before allowable deductions.
After June 30th our combined losses will be around 30m plus whatever 24/25 ends up being. No Champions League but a 25% reduction in the wage bill, a 31.2m annual benefit from Varane and Martial leaving and the cost cutting exercise going on at the club mean that our profit/loss should be fine.
I think we have plenty to spend this summer. The briefs around a limited spend are to make sure we don’t have our pants pulled down. Saying that, I’m certain we won’t sign anyone before the end of June.
comment by Diafol Coch 77 🏴 (U2462)
posted 2 hours, 28 minutes ago
comment by rosso says the time has come to unlock the unlimited Pote-ntial of the Fernçalvenoo triumvirate (U17054)
posted 1 hour, 31 minutes ago
comment by Diafol Coch 77 🏴 (U2462)
posted 2 minutes ago
Being cautious is the sensible play I think.
Perhaps cheaper signings who may not be on the radar will be the way to go too. Players who actually fit into the style we want to play. We shouldn't be too proud to shop in the Championship either.
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It’s going to have to be astute bargains.
The squad needs five or six decent players, and if we have £150m to spend, well, the maths isn’t difficult.
Going after £70m-£80m players isn’t going to work.
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I may get slated for this but I think Ampadu would be decent. Can play CB and DM. Gets stuck in. Breaks up play well. Has good experience. Wouldn't cost that much and would count as homegrown.
I'd rather three or four in the £20m bracket. Players who have something to prove but who are also decent technically and can get around the pitch. We see them at other teams. Why not United?
When we have our first team available we're not too bad. We just need players who can step in and play the same way as well.
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I agree with this and have actually looked at signing Ampadu on career mode (😂) but ended up going with Chalobah.
Can’t blame INEOS for the amount we’ve wasted on transfers in the last five years. We’re hamstrung by the failings of the old regime.
The ghost of Woodward haunts our efforts to rebuild.
comment by Melbourne Red (U5417)
posted 4 hours, 4 minutes ago
comment by rosso says the time has come to unlock the unl... (U17054)
posted 4 hours, 4 minutes ago
We’re limited by PSR, Robb.
We’re going to be (relatively) very tight this summer unless the club can raise some serious funds through sales.
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This is only true up to the end of June. After that point the 21/22 £120m loss falls of the PSR cycle. This year is expected to be close to break even (H1 posted a 7m loss). 22/23 was a loss of 28.7m for a total loss over the three years of around £150m before allowable deductions.
After June 30th our combined losses will be around 30m plus whatever 24/25 ends up being. No Champions League but a 25% reduction in the wage bill, a 31.2m annual benefit from Varane and Martial leaving and the cost cutting exercise going on at the club mean that our profit/loss should be fine.
I think we have plenty to spend this summer. The briefs around a limited spend are to make sure we don’t have our pants pulled down. Saying that, I’m certain we won’t sign anyone before the end of June.
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I’ll be amazed if 2023/4 is break-even.
H1 looked good thanks to a generous CL broadcasting and matchday boost (£75m or so). H2 obviously won’t benefit from any revenue from European competition; and then there’s falling commercial revenue (down on last year for H1, which you’d expect to continue), the already reported increased OPEX, and significantly increased interest payments (not helped by the weak pound versus the dollar).
A lot is going to depend on player sales, which unfortunately, for various reasons, we’re shiiiiit at.
Last season we had a pretty outstanding year by our standards as sales go, and still only spent something like £160m. Unless the likes of Sancho and Greenwood can be shifted for some significant wonga, I think we’ll be seeing a similar figure spent again.
Actually sending out news that we don't have much money could be a smart move. Players we've been interested in in the past suddenly had their value rocket. We lose interest and then their value goes down. Anderson from Lazio was someone we were linked with for 50-60m and then he ended up at West Ham for 40. Their sold him back to Lazio, but that's the thing that's been a constant.
We are also decreasing the wage bill. Which is a good thing as we have given out ridiculous contracts to players after a few months of playing well.
What it seems like is what Arsenal have done. Get rid of older high earners, sign players for more their market value and worth than over spend. Build a team around their system they want and then go out and spend big (e.g. Rice). "Trust the process" and all that.
I personally think that INEOS have dithered a bit. And I know I can be wrong about this as it could take into account other things they thought about. Maybe what they sounded out managers neither felt the other was right. At this moment in time keeping Ten Hag makes sense. Getting rid of players like Varane (injury prone on big wages), Martial (injury prone, big wages), Casa (Wrong side of 30, long contract, on massive wages), etc makes sense.
But this does mean INEOS have to get the cheaper signings right and the scouting system, that has been looked at several times over the years, needs to go and identify players based on the style but also look into their other habits.
So, it might be better we try to go cheaper and say we're broke to get better deals in signing players.
It's too early to start judging INEOS. They only came in after Christmas and the damage had long been done by then.
Interesting times ahead for you lot. Let’s face it you’ve thrown stupid money around the last few years and bought shiete like Antony. A restricted budget might work in your favour, innovate, develop players and become savvier in the market
comment by CurrentlyInPoland (U11181)
posted 20 minutes ago
Actually sending out news that we don't have much money could be a smart move. Players we've been interested in in the past suddenly had their value rocket. We lose interest and then their value goes down. Anderson from Lazio was someone we were linked with for 50-60m and then he ended up at West Ham for 40. Their sold him back to Lazio, but that's the thing that's been a constant.
We are also decreasing the wage bill. Which is a good thing as we have given out ridiculous contracts to players after a few months of playing well.
What it seems like is what Arsenal have done. Get rid of older high earners, sign players for more their market value and worth than over spend. Build a team around their system they want and then go out and spend big (e.g. Rice). "Trust the process" and all that.
I personally think that INEOS have dithered a bit. And I know I can be wrong about this as it could take into account other things they thought about. Maybe what they sounded out managers neither felt the other was right. At this moment in time keeping Ten Hag makes sense. Getting rid of players like Varane (injury prone on big wages), Martial (injury prone, big wages), Casa (Wrong side of 30, long contract, on massive wages), etc makes sense.
But this does mean INEOS have to get the cheaper signings right and the scouting system, that has been looked at several times over the years, needs to go and identify players based on the style but also look into their other habits.
So, it might be better we try to go cheaper and say we're broke to get better deals in signing players.
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None of the media reports seem to take in to account the freeing up of over £31m a year in wages from releasing Varane and Martial. For them to suggest we only have £35m to spend when £31m has just been freed up is irresponsible or ignorant.
comment by Melbourne Red (U5417)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by CurrentlyInPoland (U11181)
posted 20 minutes ago
Actually sending out news that we don't have much money could be a smart move. Players we've been interested in in the past suddenly had their value rocket. We lose interest and then their value goes down. Anderson from Lazio was someone we were linked with for 50-60m and then he ended up at West Ham for 40. Their sold him back to Lazio, but that's the thing that's been a constant.
We are also decreasing the wage bill. Which is a good thing as we have given out ridiculous contracts to players after a few months of playing well.
What it seems like is what Arsenal have done. Get rid of older high earners, sign players for more their market value and worth than over spend. Build a team around their system they want and then go out and spend big (e.g. Rice). "Trust the process" and all that.
I personally think that INEOS have dithered a bit. And I know I can be wrong about this as it could take into account other things they thought about. Maybe what they sounded out managers neither felt the other was right. At this moment in time keeping Ten Hag makes sense. Getting rid of players like Varane (injury prone on big wages), Martial (injury prone, big wages), Casa (Wrong side of 30, long contract, on massive wages), etc makes sense.
But this does mean INEOS have to get the cheaper signings right and the scouting system, that has been looked at several times over the years, needs to go and identify players based on the style but also look into their other habits.
So, it might be better we try to go cheaper and say we're broke to get better deals in signing players.
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None of the media reports seem to take in to account the freeing up of over £31m a year in wages from releasing Varane and Martial. For them to suggest we only have £35m to spend when £31m has just been freed up is irresponsible or ignorant.
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Maybe Jim is pocketing that 31m
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posted 9 hours, 17 minutes ago
We’re limited by PSR, Robb.
We’re going to be (relatively) very tight this summer unless the club can raise some serious funds through sales.
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was meant to be tight last season, yas still spent over 200m?
I sorta enjoy the speculation with the club, cash available, players in/out, who will be doing what above the manager, direction the club wants to go moving forward etc but if I am honest and perhaps others too we really have no idea whats what?
I get that clubs rarely enlighten the fans to a degree but do wonder if they could maybe let us, all teams, know a wee bit more of whats going on?
comment by InBefore (U20589)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by rosso says the time has come to unlock the unlimited Pote-ntial of the Fernçalvenoo triumvirate (U17054)
posted 9 hours, 17 minutes ago
We’re limited by PSR, Robb.
We’re going to be (relatively) very tight this summer unless the club can raise some serious funds through sales.
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was meant to be tight last season, yas still spent over 200m?
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We didn’t spend over £200m.
We put about £165m of new transfer fee spending on the books (excluding add-ons, which obviously aren’t figured).
I expect it’ll be around the same this summer without significant outgoings.
comment by Melbourne Red (U5417)
posted 20 minutes ago
comment by CurrentlyInPoland (U11181)
posted 20 minutes ago
Actually sending out news that we don't have much money could be a smart move. Players we've been interested in in the past suddenly had their value rocket. We lose interest and then their value goes down. Anderson from Lazio was someone we were linked with for 50-60m and then he ended up at West Ham for 40. Their sold him back to Lazio, but that's the thing that's been a constant.
We are also decreasing the wage bill. Which is a good thing as we have given out ridiculous contracts to players after a few months of playing well.
What it seems like is what Arsenal have done. Get rid of older high earners, sign players for more their market value and worth than over spend. Build a team around their system they want and then go out and spend big (e.g. Rice). "Trust the process" and all that.
I personally think that INEOS have dithered a bit. And I know I can be wrong about this as it could take into account other things they thought about. Maybe what they sounded out managers neither felt the other was right. At this moment in time keeping Ten Hag makes sense. Getting rid of players like Varane (injury prone on big wages), Martial (injury prone, big wages), Casa (Wrong side of 30, long contract, on massive wages), etc makes sense.
But this does mean INEOS have to get the cheaper signings right and the scouting system, that has been looked at several times over the years, needs to go and identify players based on the style but also look into their other habits.
So, it might be better we try to go cheaper and say we're broke to get better deals in signing players.
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None of the media reports seem to take in to account the freeing up of over £31m a year in wages from releasing Varane and Martial. For them to suggest we only have £35m to spend when £31m has just been freed up is irresponsible or ignorant.
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Not only that.....the players and staff all lose 25% of their wages due to not being in the CL. Europa League sadly isn't enough.
https://x.com/SkySportsPL/status/1800924773809287383?t=BVblSIOcUJSBts-k-pM0yA&s=19
Which one of you is the Ginger kid?
We have spent 10 years moaning about how the club has been ran poorly.
Personally, i'm glad to see that the club is adopting a careful approach.
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posted on 12/6/24
Giving the current manager a 2 year extension only to sack him 4 months later wont be seen as doing things on the cheap will it?
posted on 12/6/24
comment by Barf Vader (U15867)
posted 26 seconds ago
Giving the current manager a 2 year extension only to sack him 4 months later wont be seen as doing things on the cheap will it?
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Depends. There may be clauses in his new contract that state he can be let go if things aren’t met.
posted on 12/6/24
They only own 25% of your club. Jim is not going to spend his fortune. Plus the roof needs fixing.
posted on 12/6/24
We’re limited by PSR, Robb.
We’re going to be (relatively) very tight this summer unless the club can raise some serious funds through sales.
posted on 12/6/24
We know funds are going to be tight with FFP and our poor spending in recent years. Also any new manager would need EtH getting a large pay off which now won’t be needed. Maybe the figures they were told didn’t mention added funds from sales?
posted on 12/6/24
Being cautious is the sensible play I think.
Perhaps cheaper signings who may not be on the radar will be the way to go too. Players who actually fit into the style we want to play. We shouldn't be too proud to shop in the Championship either.
posted on 12/6/24
comment by Diafol Coch 77 🏴 (U2462)
posted 2 minutes ago
Being cautious is the sensible play I think.
Perhaps cheaper signings who may not be on the radar will be the way to go too. Players who actually fit into the style we want to play. We shouldn't be too proud to shop in the Championship either.
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It’s going to have to be astute bargains.
The squad needs five or six decent players, and if we have £150m to spend, well, the maths isn’t difficult.
Going after £70m-£80m players isn’t going to work.
posted on 12/6/24
Bayern have just bought a new CB and rumours are Kompany wants to sell de Ligt. EtH must be getting a boner at the chance of getting another ex player.
posted on 12/6/24
No CL knockout last season and no CL this season means less funds. We need new players, new training and new stadium.
posted on 13/6/24
comment by rosso says the time has come to unlock the unlimited Pote-ntial of the Fernçalvenoo triumvirate (U17054)
posted 1 hour, 31 minutes ago
comment by Diafol Coch 77 🏴 (U2462)
posted 2 minutes ago
Being cautious is the sensible play I think.
Perhaps cheaper signings who may not be on the radar will be the way to go too. Players who actually fit into the style we want to play. We shouldn't be too proud to shop in the Championship either.
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It’s going to have to be astute bargains.
The squad needs five or six decent players, and if we have £150m to spend, well, the maths isn’t difficult.
Going after £70m-£80m players isn’t going to work.
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I may get slated for this but I think Ampadu would be decent. Can play CB and DM. Gets stuck in. Breaks up play well. Has good experience. Wouldn't cost that much and would count as homegrown.
I'd rather three or four in the £20m bracket. Players who have something to prove but who are also decent technically and can get around the pitch. We see them at other teams. Why not United?
When we have our first team available we're not too bad. We just need players who can step in and play the same way as well.
posted on 13/6/24
comment by rosso says the time has come to unlock the unl... (U17054)
posted 4 hours, 4 minutes ago
We’re limited by PSR, Robb.
We’re going to be (relatively) very tight this summer unless the club can raise some serious funds through sales.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
This is only true up to the end of June. After that point the 21/22 £120m loss falls of the PSR cycle. This year is expected to be close to break even (H1 posted a 7m loss). 22/23 was a loss of 28.7m for a total loss over the three years of around £150m before allowable deductions.
After June 30th our combined losses will be around 30m plus whatever 24/25 ends up being. No Champions League but a 25% reduction in the wage bill, a 31.2m annual benefit from Varane and Martial leaving and the cost cutting exercise going on at the club mean that our profit/loss should be fine.
I think we have plenty to spend this summer. The briefs around a limited spend are to make sure we don’t have our pants pulled down. Saying that, I’m certain we won’t sign anyone before the end of June.
posted on 13/6/24
comment by Diafol Coch 77 🏴 (U2462)
posted 2 hours, 28 minutes ago
comment by rosso says the time has come to unlock the unlimited Pote-ntial of the Fernçalvenoo triumvirate (U17054)
posted 1 hour, 31 minutes ago
comment by Diafol Coch 77 🏴 (U2462)
posted 2 minutes ago
Being cautious is the sensible play I think.
Perhaps cheaper signings who may not be on the radar will be the way to go too. Players who actually fit into the style we want to play. We shouldn't be too proud to shop in the Championship either.
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It’s going to have to be astute bargains.
The squad needs five or six decent players, and if we have £150m to spend, well, the maths isn’t difficult.
Going after £70m-£80m players isn’t going to work.
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I may get slated for this but I think Ampadu would be decent. Can play CB and DM. Gets stuck in. Breaks up play well. Has good experience. Wouldn't cost that much and would count as homegrown.
I'd rather three or four in the £20m bracket. Players who have something to prove but who are also decent technically and can get around the pitch. We see them at other teams. Why not United?
When we have our first team available we're not too bad. We just need players who can step in and play the same way as well.
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I agree with this and have actually looked at signing Ampadu on career mode (😂) but ended up going with Chalobah.
posted on 13/6/24
Can’t blame INEOS for the amount we’ve wasted on transfers in the last five years. We’re hamstrung by the failings of the old regime.
The ghost of Woodward haunts our efforts to rebuild.
posted on 13/6/24
comment by Melbourne Red (U5417)
posted 4 hours, 4 minutes ago
comment by rosso says the time has come to unlock the unl... (U17054)
posted 4 hours, 4 minutes ago
We’re limited by PSR, Robb.
We’re going to be (relatively) very tight this summer unless the club can raise some serious funds through sales.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
This is only true up to the end of June. After that point the 21/22 £120m loss falls of the PSR cycle. This year is expected to be close to break even (H1 posted a 7m loss). 22/23 was a loss of 28.7m for a total loss over the three years of around £150m before allowable deductions.
After June 30th our combined losses will be around 30m plus whatever 24/25 ends up being. No Champions League but a 25% reduction in the wage bill, a 31.2m annual benefit from Varane and Martial leaving and the cost cutting exercise going on at the club mean that our profit/loss should be fine.
I think we have plenty to spend this summer. The briefs around a limited spend are to make sure we don’t have our pants pulled down. Saying that, I’m certain we won’t sign anyone before the end of June.
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I’ll be amazed if 2023/4 is break-even.
H1 looked good thanks to a generous CL broadcasting and matchday boost (£75m or so). H2 obviously won’t benefit from any revenue from European competition; and then there’s falling commercial revenue (down on last year for H1, which you’d expect to continue), the already reported increased OPEX, and significantly increased interest payments (not helped by the weak pound versus the dollar).
A lot is going to depend on player sales, which unfortunately, for various reasons, we’re shiiiiit at.
Last season we had a pretty outstanding year by our standards as sales go, and still only spent something like £160m. Unless the likes of Sancho and Greenwood can be shifted for some significant wonga, I think we’ll be seeing a similar figure spent again.
posted on 13/6/24
Actually sending out news that we don't have much money could be a smart move. Players we've been interested in in the past suddenly had their value rocket. We lose interest and then their value goes down. Anderson from Lazio was someone we were linked with for 50-60m and then he ended up at West Ham for 40. Their sold him back to Lazio, but that's the thing that's been a constant.
We are also decreasing the wage bill. Which is a good thing as we have given out ridiculous contracts to players after a few months of playing well.
What it seems like is what Arsenal have done. Get rid of older high earners, sign players for more their market value and worth than over spend. Build a team around their system they want and then go out and spend big (e.g. Rice). "Trust the process" and all that.
I personally think that INEOS have dithered a bit. And I know I can be wrong about this as it could take into account other things they thought about. Maybe what they sounded out managers neither felt the other was right. At this moment in time keeping Ten Hag makes sense. Getting rid of players like Varane (injury prone on big wages), Martial (injury prone, big wages), Casa (Wrong side of 30, long contract, on massive wages), etc makes sense.
But this does mean INEOS have to get the cheaper signings right and the scouting system, that has been looked at several times over the years, needs to go and identify players based on the style but also look into their other habits.
So, it might be better we try to go cheaper and say we're broke to get better deals in signing players.
posted on 13/6/24
It's too early to start judging INEOS. They only came in after Christmas and the damage had long been done by then.
posted on 13/6/24
Interesting times ahead for you lot. Let’s face it you’ve thrown stupid money around the last few years and bought shiete like Antony. A restricted budget might work in your favour, innovate, develop players and become savvier in the market
posted on 13/6/24
comment by CurrentlyInPoland (U11181)
posted 20 minutes ago
Actually sending out news that we don't have much money could be a smart move. Players we've been interested in in the past suddenly had their value rocket. We lose interest and then their value goes down. Anderson from Lazio was someone we were linked with for 50-60m and then he ended up at West Ham for 40. Their sold him back to Lazio, but that's the thing that's been a constant.
We are also decreasing the wage bill. Which is a good thing as we have given out ridiculous contracts to players after a few months of playing well.
What it seems like is what Arsenal have done. Get rid of older high earners, sign players for more their market value and worth than over spend. Build a team around their system they want and then go out and spend big (e.g. Rice). "Trust the process" and all that.
I personally think that INEOS have dithered a bit. And I know I can be wrong about this as it could take into account other things they thought about. Maybe what they sounded out managers neither felt the other was right. At this moment in time keeping Ten Hag makes sense. Getting rid of players like Varane (injury prone on big wages), Martial (injury prone, big wages), Casa (Wrong side of 30, long contract, on massive wages), etc makes sense.
But this does mean INEOS have to get the cheaper signings right and the scouting system, that has been looked at several times over the years, needs to go and identify players based on the style but also look into their other habits.
So, it might be better we try to go cheaper and say we're broke to get better deals in signing players.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
None of the media reports seem to take in to account the freeing up of over £31m a year in wages from releasing Varane and Martial. For them to suggest we only have £35m to spend when £31m has just been freed up is irresponsible or ignorant.
posted on 13/6/24
comment by Melbourne Red (U5417)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by CurrentlyInPoland (U11181)
posted 20 minutes ago
Actually sending out news that we don't have much money could be a smart move. Players we've been interested in in the past suddenly had their value rocket. We lose interest and then their value goes down. Anderson from Lazio was someone we were linked with for 50-60m and then he ended up at West Ham for 40. Their sold him back to Lazio, but that's the thing that's been a constant.
We are also decreasing the wage bill. Which is a good thing as we have given out ridiculous contracts to players after a few months of playing well.
What it seems like is what Arsenal have done. Get rid of older high earners, sign players for more their market value and worth than over spend. Build a team around their system they want and then go out and spend big (e.g. Rice). "Trust the process" and all that.
I personally think that INEOS have dithered a bit. And I know I can be wrong about this as it could take into account other things they thought about. Maybe what they sounded out managers neither felt the other was right. At this moment in time keeping Ten Hag makes sense. Getting rid of players like Varane (injury prone on big wages), Martial (injury prone, big wages), Casa (Wrong side of 30, long contract, on massive wages), etc makes sense.
But this does mean INEOS have to get the cheaper signings right and the scouting system, that has been looked at several times over the years, needs to go and identify players based on the style but also look into their other habits.
So, it might be better we try to go cheaper and say we're broke to get better deals in signing players.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
None of the media reports seem to take in to account the freeing up of over £31m a year in wages from releasing Varane and Martial. For them to suggest we only have £35m to spend when £31m has just been freed up is irresponsible or ignorant.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Maybe Jim is pocketing that 31m
posted on 13/6/24
comment by rosso says the time has come to unlock the unlimited Pote-ntial of the Fernçalvenoo triumvirate (U17054)
posted 9 hours, 17 minutes ago
We’re limited by PSR, Robb.
We’re going to be (relatively) very tight this summer unless the club can raise some serious funds through sales.
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was meant to be tight last season, yas still spent over 200m?
posted on 13/6/24
I sorta enjoy the speculation with the club, cash available, players in/out, who will be doing what above the manager, direction the club wants to go moving forward etc but if I am honest and perhaps others too we really have no idea whats what?
I get that clubs rarely enlighten the fans to a degree but do wonder if they could maybe let us, all teams, know a wee bit more of whats going on?
posted on 13/6/24
comment by InBefore (U20589)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by rosso says the time has come to unlock the unlimited Pote-ntial of the Fernçalvenoo triumvirate (U17054)
posted 9 hours, 17 minutes ago
We’re limited by PSR, Robb.
We’re going to be (relatively) very tight this summer unless the club can raise some serious funds through sales.
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was meant to be tight last season, yas still spent over 200m?
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We didn’t spend over £200m.
We put about £165m of new transfer fee spending on the books (excluding add-ons, which obviously aren’t figured).
I expect it’ll be around the same this summer without significant outgoings.
posted on 13/6/24
comment by Melbourne Red (U5417)
posted 20 minutes ago
comment by CurrentlyInPoland (U11181)
posted 20 minutes ago
Actually sending out news that we don't have much money could be a smart move. Players we've been interested in in the past suddenly had their value rocket. We lose interest and then their value goes down. Anderson from Lazio was someone we were linked with for 50-60m and then he ended up at West Ham for 40. Their sold him back to Lazio, but that's the thing that's been a constant.
We are also decreasing the wage bill. Which is a good thing as we have given out ridiculous contracts to players after a few months of playing well.
What it seems like is what Arsenal have done. Get rid of older high earners, sign players for more their market value and worth than over spend. Build a team around their system they want and then go out and spend big (e.g. Rice). "Trust the process" and all that.
I personally think that INEOS have dithered a bit. And I know I can be wrong about this as it could take into account other things they thought about. Maybe what they sounded out managers neither felt the other was right. At this moment in time keeping Ten Hag makes sense. Getting rid of players like Varane (injury prone on big wages), Martial (injury prone, big wages), Casa (Wrong side of 30, long contract, on massive wages), etc makes sense.
But this does mean INEOS have to get the cheaper signings right and the scouting system, that has been looked at several times over the years, needs to go and identify players based on the style but also look into their other habits.
So, it might be better we try to go cheaper and say we're broke to get better deals in signing players.
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None of the media reports seem to take in to account the freeing up of over £31m a year in wages from releasing Varane and Martial. For them to suggest we only have £35m to spend when £31m has just been freed up is irresponsible or ignorant.
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Not only that.....the players and staff all lose 25% of their wages due to not being in the CL. Europa League sadly isn't enough.
posted on 13/6/24
https://x.com/SkySportsPL/status/1800924773809287383?t=BVblSIOcUJSBts-k-pM0yA&s=19
Which one of you is the Ginger kid?
posted on 13/6/24
We have spent 10 years moaning about how the club has been ran poorly.
Personally, i'm glad to see that the club is adopting a careful approach.
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