posted 1 hour, 56 minutes ago
comment by Trump 2024- Let's make America great again. (U9692)
posted 8 minutes ago
How did your title get past admin?
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Fck is not banned is it?
Fuсk that
comment by Vidicschin (U3584)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by RB&W - He kicked lumps out of them (U21434)
posted 1 hour, 2 minutes ago
Im trying to get my head around which us more humane. Sinking the small boats where ever they appear in British waters or picking up the people in the small boats in British waters and sailing them out to French water.... and then chucking them overboard. Those on the right on here, please let us know.
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The right or the far right? They are not the same thing, just as the left isn't the same thing as the far left.
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Of couse they are not. But the mainstream democratic right wing of UK politics has moved dangerously close to the dogma of what once not too long ago unnaceptable by the mainstream. As for this question of the small boats and post Brexit immigration, I have heard many of people I know and dont know, who lean to the right politicaly, express that view that we should just sink the boats in the Channel that come, or even chuck the migrants into the sea. Lets hope that most are just angered and not being too serious
Unfortunately I've long suspected that this or similar will become the norm within our lifetimes. It's likely there'll be 100 of millions of people on the move eventually, looking for safety and they'll end up being met with violence, including by the UK.
comment by RB&W - He kicked lumps out of them (U21434)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Vidicschin (U3584)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by RB&W - He kicked lumps out of them (U21434)
posted 1 hour, 2 minutes ago
Im trying to get my head around which us more humane. Sinking the small boats where ever they appear in British waters or picking up the people in the small boats in British waters and sailing them out to French water.... and then chucking them overboard. Those on the right on here, please let us know.
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The right or the far right? They are not the same thing, just as the left isn't the same thing as the far left.
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Of couse they are not. But the mainstream democratic right wing of UK politics has moved dangerously close to the dogma of what once not too long ago unnaceptable by the mainstream. As for this question of the small boats and post Brexit immigration, I have heard many of people I know and dont know, who lean to the right politicaly, express that view that we should just sink the boats in the Channel that come, or even chuck the migrants into the sea. Lets hope that most are just angered and not being too serious
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What if these immigrants have guns? We should be allowed guns to defend ourselves against them. You don't see many African going across to America on small boats do you? That's cos they know they'd get shot. We have gone soft so migrants are targeting us. Make guns legal for everyone to defend themselves, problem solved.
comment by Two Balls, One Saka (U19684)
posted 7 minutes ago
Unfortunately I've long suspected that this or similar will become the norm within our lifetimes. It's likely there'll be 100 of millions of people on the move eventually, looking for safety and they'll end up being met with violence, including by the UK.
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Yep. Due to climate change many regions of sub Saharan Africa will be unliveable and hundreds of millions of people will be on the move to more habitable places on the planet. But much of Europe and the UK may well be under far right control in the decades to come and large swathes of the populace will be brainwashed into thinking the people coming to Europe are ‘cockroaches’ and part of an invading army. We’re already seeing things like ‘military aged men’ being used to make them out to be a threat to white civilisation.
Where does it end? Fences and walls put up in Europe like we see in Hungary? Boats being shot in the Med by naval ships? Concentration camps in places like Greece and Italy?
Not so far fetched when you see how in history certain populations have been dehumanised and treated by those who fear them.
What has been reported from Greece is quite simply disgusting and inhumane.
Illegal immigration, whilst certainly an issue worth discussing and handling, is nothing compared to our legal immigration numbers. The illegal numbers are at a level where our total net numbers used to be for decades which on the one hand says that it’s really high but when compared to recent legal numbers of 1,200,000 it’s not what I would be focusing on.
comment by Alan Gilzean (U1734)
posted 29 minutes ago
comment by RB&W - He kicked lumps out of them (U21434)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Vidicschin (U3584)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by RB&W - He kicked lumps out of them (U21434)
posted 1 hour, 2 minutes ago
Im trying to get my head around which us more humane. Sinking the small boats where ever they appear in British waters or picking up the people in the small boats in British waters and sailing them out to French water.... and then chucking them overboard. Those on the right on here, please let us know.
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The right or the far right? They are not the same thing, just as the left isn't the same thing as the far left.
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Of couse they are not. But the mainstream democratic right wing of UK politics has moved dangerously close to the dogma of what once not too long ago unnaceptable by the mainstream. As for this question of the small boats and post Brexit immigration, I have heard many of people I know and dont know, who lean to the right politicaly, express that view that we should just sink the boats in the Channel that come, or even chuck the migrants into the sea. Lets hope that most are just angered and not being too serious
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What if these immigrants have guns? We should be allowed guns to defend ourselves against them. You don't see many African going across to America on small boats do you? That's cos they know they'd get shot. We have gone soft so migrants are targeting us. Make guns legal for everyone to defend themselves, problem solved.
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Fack off Barry
Gammons up here have long wait times to get served at bars. Can't find a care home to look after their elderly mum due to lack of care workers. Can't find an available plumber to fix their toilet. Can't find a cleaner to clean their buy to let house. Cant find any hospitality staff to work at their establishment that they own.
Their main focus?
Too many immigrants coming here
comment by Red Russian (U4715)
posted 1 hour, 21 minutes ago
Many people have learned from the moral shocks of the twentieth century and therefore resist the call of propaganda that tries to dehumanise people who come from certain places or whose appearance mark them out as alien. What happened in the seas around Greece isn't inevitably "what humans do" - we have every opportunity to do the opposite.
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Many haven't, unfortunately. Like that utter cᴜnt in the video on that article answering the question about kids being illegally deported saying immigrants abandon them because they don't love their children like we do.
Sickening bɑstɑrd.
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2024/6/17/masked-men-who-abused-refugees-likely-worked-in-concert-with-greece
To add to what's going on with Greece
comment by Robberto Garnacho (U22716)
posted 44 minutes ago
comment by Two Balls, One Saka (U19684)
posted 7 minutes ago
Unfortunately I've long suspected that this or similar will become the norm within our lifetimes. It's likely there'll be 100 of millions of people on the move eventually, looking for safety and they'll end up being met with violence, including by the UK.
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Yep. Due to climate change many regions of sub Saharan Africa will be unliveable and hundreds of millions of people will be on the move to more habitable places on the planet. But much of Europe and the UK may well be under far right control in the decades to come and large swathes of the populace will be brainwashed into thinking the people coming to Europe are ‘cockroaches’ and part of an invading army. We’re already seeing things like ‘military aged men’ being used to make them out to be a threat to white civilisation.
Where does it end? Fences and walls put up in Europe like we see in Hungary? Boats being shot in the Med by naval ships? Concentration camps in places like Greece and Italy?
Not so far fetched when you see how in history certain populations have been dehumanised and treated by those who fear them.
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Yeah that's pretty much it. Seems far more likely to happen than not happen with the way humanity is heading.
comment by RB&W - He kicked lumps out of them (U21434)
posted 2 hours, 36 minutes ago
Im trying to get my head around which us more humane. Sinking the small boats where ever they appear in British waters or picking up the people in the small boats in British waters and sailing them out to French water.... and then chucking them overboard. Those on the right on here, please let us know.
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Depends on the tides.
comment by Two Balls, One Saka (U19684)
posted 22 minutes ago
comment by Robberto Garnacho (U22716)
posted 44 minutes ago
comment by Two Balls, One Saka (U19684)
posted 7 minutes ago
Unfortunately I've long suspected that this or similar will become the norm within our lifetimes. It's likely there'll be 100 of millions of people on the move eventually, looking for safety and they'll end up being met with violence, including by the UK.
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Yep. Due to climate change many regions of sub Saharan Africa will be unliveable and hundreds of millions of people will be on the move to more habitable places on the planet. But much of Europe and the UK may well be under far right control in the decades to come and large swathes of the populace will be brainwashed into thinking the people coming to Europe are ‘cockroaches’ and part of an invading army. We’re already seeing things like ‘military aged men’ being used to make them out to be a threat to white civilisation.
Where does it end? Fences and walls put up in Europe like we see in Hungary? Boats being shot in the Med by naval ships? Concentration camps in places like Greece and Italy?
Not so far fetched when you see how in history certain populations have been dehumanised and treated by those who fear them.
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Yeah that's pretty much it. Seems far more likely to happen than not happen with the way humanity is heading.
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To avoid that fate, we urgently need to see liberal governments enacting laws that protect our information systems from capture by malicious entities: robust, independent fact-checking organisations, mandatory transparency in funding of think-tanks, budget going into understanding how to prevent democracy being hijacked by deep fakes, etc.
thats the risk you take fleeing your country
FCK saudi civilisation, disgusting backwards lot, leave yemen alone!!
...and at last we have our first pro-refugee-murder comment. Wondered how long we'd have to wait.
FCK china civilization, disgusting lot what theyve done to the uyghurs
comment by Red Russian (U4715)
posted 2 minutes ago
...and at last we have our first pro-refugee-murder comment. Wondered how long we'd have to wait.
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no its not you, its placing your life potentially in the hands of people that dont want you
its obviously not a good thing
You've put the onus of blame on people who were tossed into the sea to drown for the risk they took, rather than on the people who murdered them (in the process breaking Greek and international law, and of course attempting to do it in secret because such policies would not be openly sanctioned by the democratically elected government of Greece).
Ahh your one of those people who always assumes the worst possible connotation for something, do you have pink hair?
You're clearly someone who can only think in clichés (and appear to have taken the title of the OP rather literally, having missed the tongue-in-cheek reference to Harry Maguire's alleged drunken abuse of the arresting officers during his holiday mishap). But in your first comment above, you explicitly blamed the victims for being murdered, and had nothing to say about the agents of a democratic government systematically killing vulnerable people. For things like that to happen it doesn't just need a small number of psychopaths who are willing to do the deed; it also requires larger numbers of people who, like you, just shrug their shoulders when they hear about it. It happens when it stops being an unthinkable outrage.
comment by Taki Minamino (U20650)
posted 47 minutes ago
thats the risk you take fleeing your country
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If there is an accident then you could make that statement even if it is extremely callous. But this scenario is entirely different.
comment by Sat Nav (U18243)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Taki Minamino (U20650)
posted 47 minutes ago
thats the risk you take fleeing your country
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If there is an accident then you could make that statement even if it is extremely callous. But this scenario is entirely different.
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I recall we may have had *minor* political differences in the past, Sat Nav, but that's very well said. It's useful to recognise that there are basically humane, democratic values that a large majority of people can agree on, whether they are more conservative or more progressive on the continuum. And not executing people for trying to enter your country is one of them. I personally don't think that's a marginal view espoused by people with pink hair, whereas forum member U20650's reaction does seem consistent with a specific hair cut.
Tje Romans was bessed civilixation
Very civilized n sensybubble
People say there is no solution but I know a billionaire who asked the Greek government if he could buy an island and put them all on there. He would have invested into infrastructure to create a new island with tourism and other industries. Greece wouldn't allow it but I can't see any negatives.
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Fck Greek civilisation
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posted on 17/6/24
posted 1 hour, 56 minutes ago
comment by Trump 2024- Let's make America great again. (U9692)
posted 8 minutes ago
How did your title get past admin?
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Fck is not banned is it?
Fuсk that
posted on 17/6/24
comment by Vidicschin (U3584)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by RB&W - He kicked lumps out of them (U21434)
posted 1 hour, 2 minutes ago
Im trying to get my head around which us more humane. Sinking the small boats where ever they appear in British waters or picking up the people in the small boats in British waters and sailing them out to French water.... and then chucking them overboard. Those on the right on here, please let us know.
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The right or the far right? They are not the same thing, just as the left isn't the same thing as the far left.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Of couse they are not. But the mainstream democratic right wing of UK politics has moved dangerously close to the dogma of what once not too long ago unnaceptable by the mainstream. As for this question of the small boats and post Brexit immigration, I have heard many of people I know and dont know, who lean to the right politicaly, express that view that we should just sink the boats in the Channel that come, or even chuck the migrants into the sea. Lets hope that most are just angered and not being too serious
posted on 17/6/24
Unfortunately I've long suspected that this or similar will become the norm within our lifetimes. It's likely there'll be 100 of millions of people on the move eventually, looking for safety and they'll end up being met with violence, including by the UK.
posted on 17/6/24
comment by RB&W - He kicked lumps out of them (U21434)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Vidicschin (U3584)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by RB&W - He kicked lumps out of them (U21434)
posted 1 hour, 2 minutes ago
Im trying to get my head around which us more humane. Sinking the small boats where ever they appear in British waters or picking up the people in the small boats in British waters and sailing them out to French water.... and then chucking them overboard. Those on the right on here, please let us know.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
The right or the far right? They are not the same thing, just as the left isn't the same thing as the far left.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Of couse they are not. But the mainstream democratic right wing of UK politics has moved dangerously close to the dogma of what once not too long ago unnaceptable by the mainstream. As for this question of the small boats and post Brexit immigration, I have heard many of people I know and dont know, who lean to the right politicaly, express that view that we should just sink the boats in the Channel that come, or even chuck the migrants into the sea. Lets hope that most are just angered and not being too serious
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What if these immigrants have guns? We should be allowed guns to defend ourselves against them. You don't see many African going across to America on small boats do you? That's cos they know they'd get shot. We have gone soft so migrants are targeting us. Make guns legal for everyone to defend themselves, problem solved.
posted on 17/6/24
comment by Two Balls, One Saka (U19684)
posted 7 minutes ago
Unfortunately I've long suspected that this or similar will become the norm within our lifetimes. It's likely there'll be 100 of millions of people on the move eventually, looking for safety and they'll end up being met with violence, including by the UK.
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Yep. Due to climate change many regions of sub Saharan Africa will be unliveable and hundreds of millions of people will be on the move to more habitable places on the planet. But much of Europe and the UK may well be under far right control in the decades to come and large swathes of the populace will be brainwashed into thinking the people coming to Europe are ‘cockroaches’ and part of an invading army. We’re already seeing things like ‘military aged men’ being used to make them out to be a threat to white civilisation.
Where does it end? Fences and walls put up in Europe like we see in Hungary? Boats being shot in the Med by naval ships? Concentration camps in places like Greece and Italy?
Not so far fetched when you see how in history certain populations have been dehumanised and treated by those who fear them.
posted on 17/6/24
What has been reported from Greece is quite simply disgusting and inhumane.
Illegal immigration, whilst certainly an issue worth discussing and handling, is nothing compared to our legal immigration numbers. The illegal numbers are at a level where our total net numbers used to be for decades which on the one hand says that it’s really high but when compared to recent legal numbers of 1,200,000 it’s not what I would be focusing on.
posted on 17/6/24
comment by Alan Gilzean (U1734)
posted 29 minutes ago
comment by RB&W - He kicked lumps out of them (U21434)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Vidicschin (U3584)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by RB&W - He kicked lumps out of them (U21434)
posted 1 hour, 2 minutes ago
Im trying to get my head around which us more humane. Sinking the small boats where ever they appear in British waters or picking up the people in the small boats in British waters and sailing them out to French water.... and then chucking them overboard. Those on the right on here, please let us know.
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The right or the far right? They are not the same thing, just as the left isn't the same thing as the far left.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Of couse they are not. But the mainstream democratic right wing of UK politics has moved dangerously close to the dogma of what once not too long ago unnaceptable by the mainstream. As for this question of the small boats and post Brexit immigration, I have heard many of people I know and dont know, who lean to the right politicaly, express that view that we should just sink the boats in the Channel that come, or even chuck the migrants into the sea. Lets hope that most are just angered and not being too serious
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What if these immigrants have guns? We should be allowed guns to defend ourselves against them. You don't see many African going across to America on small boats do you? That's cos they know they'd get shot. We have gone soft so migrants are targeting us. Make guns legal for everyone to defend themselves, problem solved.
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Fack off Barry
posted on 17/6/24
Gammons up here have long wait times to get served at bars. Can't find a care home to look after their elderly mum due to lack of care workers. Can't find an available plumber to fix their toilet. Can't find a cleaner to clean their buy to let house. Cant find any hospitality staff to work at their establishment that they own.
Their main focus?
Too many immigrants coming here
posted on 17/6/24
comment by Red Russian (U4715)
posted 1 hour, 21 minutes ago
Many people have learned from the moral shocks of the twentieth century and therefore resist the call of propaganda that tries to dehumanise people who come from certain places or whose appearance mark them out as alien. What happened in the seas around Greece isn't inevitably "what humans do" - we have every opportunity to do the opposite.
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Many haven't, unfortunately. Like that utter cᴜnt in the video on that article answering the question about kids being illegally deported saying immigrants abandon them because they don't love their children like we do.
Sickening bɑstɑrd.
posted on 17/6/24
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2024/6/17/masked-men-who-abused-refugees-likely-worked-in-concert-with-greece
To add to what's going on with Greece
posted on 17/6/24
comment by Robberto Garnacho (U22716)
posted 44 minutes ago
comment by Two Balls, One Saka (U19684)
posted 7 minutes ago
Unfortunately I've long suspected that this or similar will become the norm within our lifetimes. It's likely there'll be 100 of millions of people on the move eventually, looking for safety and they'll end up being met with violence, including by the UK.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Yep. Due to climate change many regions of sub Saharan Africa will be unliveable and hundreds of millions of people will be on the move to more habitable places on the planet. But much of Europe and the UK may well be under far right control in the decades to come and large swathes of the populace will be brainwashed into thinking the people coming to Europe are ‘cockroaches’ and part of an invading army. We’re already seeing things like ‘military aged men’ being used to make them out to be a threat to white civilisation.
Where does it end? Fences and walls put up in Europe like we see in Hungary? Boats being shot in the Med by naval ships? Concentration camps in places like Greece and Italy?
Not so far fetched when you see how in history certain populations have been dehumanised and treated by those who fear them.
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Yeah that's pretty much it. Seems far more likely to happen than not happen with the way humanity is heading.
posted on 17/6/24
comment by RB&W - He kicked lumps out of them (U21434)
posted 2 hours, 36 minutes ago
Im trying to get my head around which us more humane. Sinking the small boats where ever they appear in British waters or picking up the people in the small boats in British waters and sailing them out to French water.... and then chucking them overboard. Those on the right on here, please let us know.
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Depends on the tides.
posted on 17/6/24
comment by Two Balls, One Saka (U19684)
posted 22 minutes ago
comment by Robberto Garnacho (U22716)
posted 44 minutes ago
comment by Two Balls, One Saka (U19684)
posted 7 minutes ago
Unfortunately I've long suspected that this or similar will become the norm within our lifetimes. It's likely there'll be 100 of millions of people on the move eventually, looking for safety and they'll end up being met with violence, including by the UK.
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Yep. Due to climate change many regions of sub Saharan Africa will be unliveable and hundreds of millions of people will be on the move to more habitable places on the planet. But much of Europe and the UK may well be under far right control in the decades to come and large swathes of the populace will be brainwashed into thinking the people coming to Europe are ‘cockroaches’ and part of an invading army. We’re already seeing things like ‘military aged men’ being used to make them out to be a threat to white civilisation.
Where does it end? Fences and walls put up in Europe like we see in Hungary? Boats being shot in the Med by naval ships? Concentration camps in places like Greece and Italy?
Not so far fetched when you see how in history certain populations have been dehumanised and treated by those who fear them.
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Yeah that's pretty much it. Seems far more likely to happen than not happen with the way humanity is heading.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
To avoid that fate, we urgently need to see liberal governments enacting laws that protect our information systems from capture by malicious entities: robust, independent fact-checking organisations, mandatory transparency in funding of think-tanks, budget going into understanding how to prevent democracy being hijacked by deep fakes, etc.
posted on 17/6/24
thats the risk you take fleeing your country
posted on 17/6/24
FCK saudi civilisation, disgusting backwards lot, leave yemen alone!!
posted on 17/6/24
...and at last we have our first pro-refugee-murder comment. Wondered how long we'd have to wait.
posted on 17/6/24
FCK china civilization, disgusting lot what theyve done to the uyghurs
posted on 17/6/24
comment by Red Russian (U4715)
posted 2 minutes ago
...and at last we have our first pro-refugee-murder comment. Wondered how long we'd have to wait.
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no its not you, its placing your life potentially in the hands of people that dont want you
its obviously not a good thing
posted on 17/6/24
You've put the onus of blame on people who were tossed into the sea to drown for the risk they took, rather than on the people who murdered them (in the process breaking Greek and international law, and of course attempting to do it in secret because such policies would not be openly sanctioned by the democratically elected government of Greece).
posted on 17/6/24
Ahh your one of those people who always assumes the worst possible connotation for something, do you have pink hair?
posted on 17/6/24
You're clearly someone who can only think in clichés (and appear to have taken the title of the OP rather literally, having missed the tongue-in-cheek reference to Harry Maguire's alleged drunken abuse of the arresting officers during his holiday mishap). But in your first comment above, you explicitly blamed the victims for being murdered, and had nothing to say about the agents of a democratic government systematically killing vulnerable people. For things like that to happen it doesn't just need a small number of psychopaths who are willing to do the deed; it also requires larger numbers of people who, like you, just shrug their shoulders when they hear about it. It happens when it stops being an unthinkable outrage.
posted on 17/6/24
comment by Taki Minamino (U20650)
posted 47 minutes ago
thats the risk you take fleeing your country
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If there is an accident then you could make that statement even if it is extremely callous. But this scenario is entirely different.
posted on 17/6/24
comment by Sat Nav (U18243)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Taki Minamino (U20650)
posted 47 minutes ago
thats the risk you take fleeing your country
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If there is an accident then you could make that statement even if it is extremely callous. But this scenario is entirely different.
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I recall we may have had *minor* political differences in the past, Sat Nav, but that's very well said. It's useful to recognise that there are basically humane, democratic values that a large majority of people can agree on, whether they are more conservative or more progressive on the continuum. And not executing people for trying to enter your country is one of them. I personally don't think that's a marginal view espoused by people with pink hair, whereas forum member U20650's reaction does seem consistent with a specific hair cut.
posted on 17/6/24
Tje Romans was bessed civilixation
Very civilized n sensybubble
posted on 17/6/24
People say there is no solution but I know a billionaire who asked the Greek government if he could buy an island and put them all on there. He would have invested into infrastructure to create a new island with tourism and other industries. Greece wouldn't allow it but I can't see any negatives.
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