Somewhat unfair that the teams playing later in the round might know better what they need to do to secure 3rd place than those playing at the weekend.
DJ - Austria can’t play the winner of group F no matter what
All eyes on group F really, that is where Englands fate will be decided. If Georgia or the Czechs win tonight then Hungary are out and England avoid the Netherlands.
Can’t see Romania hammering Slovakia by 4 or Slovakia hammering Romania by 5. That one is a non starter for me.
Germany will beat Denmark
I expect Italy to narrowly beat the Swiss - maybe pens
I think Austria will play Czechs and win narrowly
Spain will hump whoever they get -Turkey/Slovakia
England to narrowly beat Netherlands/Slovakia
Portugal to beat Slovenia
France will beat Romania
Belgium - lose to Holland, but beat Slovenia
That would set up mouth watering QF
Spain vs Germany
England vs Italy
France vs Portugal
Austria vs Belgium/Holland
comment by Striketeam7 - confident for Southgate’s ... (U18109)
posted 5 minutes ago
DJ - Austria can’t play the winner of group F no matter what
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Meant to be ruF, edited.
comment by Silver (U6112)
posted 9 minutes ago
Somewhat unfair that the teams playing later in the round might know better what they need to do to secure 3rd place than those playing at the weekend.
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Yeah the set up is absolutely ridiculous all ends up. 36 group games to knockout 8 sides and be left with the proper tournament.
Would love it to go back to 16 sides, that was ace. Unfortunately, it’s a better of time before we have a 32 team competition (from 55 UEFA nations) at which point it will be a faaacking joke, you will have groups like Germany, Bosnia, Poland, Estonia with the top 2 progressing.
comment by D'Jeezus Mackaroni (U1137)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Striketeam7 - confident for Southgate’s ... (U18109)
posted 5 minutes ago
DJ - Austria can’t play the winner of group F no matter what
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Meant to be ruF, edited.
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So England will most likely play the Netherlands on Sunday follwed by Italy if we win?
comment by manutd1982 (U6633)
posted 7 minutes ago
So England will most likely play the Netherlands on Sunday follwed by Italy if we win?
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Seems that way.
comment by D'Jeezus Mackaroni (U1137)
posted 10 seconds ago
comment by manutd1982 (U6633)
posted 7 minutes ago
So England will most likely play the Netherlands on Sunday follwed by Italy if we win?
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Seems that way.
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If Georgia or the Czechs win today then we will be playing 3rd in group E, if they don’t then it’s the Dutch. That’s the realistic scenarios.
Georgia and the Czechs ain't gonna win today (famous last words).
The new format is absolutely crap. Too much jeopardy has been taken away in MD3 and as somebody has pointed out above a few nations that play last on the gameweek know what they need to do to get through which can be an advantage. Afterall some nations are competing against more than just the teams in their group but other third place sides.
Scrap it and have a rethink for 2028. This doesn't work for me.
England (on paper) have a decent run to the final!!!!!!!
There are or should be some cracking games on the other side of the draw. trying to pick a finalist from them is a lottery.
comment by manutd1982 (U6633)
posted 2 hours, 57 minutes ago
Georgia and the Czechs ain't gonna win today (famous last words).
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Hmm maybe Czech surprise result v Turkey?
Don't think Czechia beating Turkey will be a shock result tbf. They are higher in the FIFA rankings after all.
So if Czechia does beat Turkey then England play Slovakia?
comment by House - Free Mainoo (U17162)
posted 1 minute ago
So if Czechia does beat Turkey then England play Slovakia?
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Well, whoever finishes 3rd in that group. Could be Belgium or Romania or Ukraine.
I'd rather play the Dutch... Let's have a challenge and see what happens... Might spring us into life or might show us up, but anything is better than another snore fest trying to break down a stubborn team.
comment by Silver (U6112)
posted 5 hours, 5 minutes ago
Somewhat unfair that the teams playing later in the round might know better what they need to do to secure 3rd place than those playing at the weekend.
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The 3rd place qualifying makes the group stages very dull, since teams know by game 2/3 that a drawer will do a lot of the time.
comment by D'Jeezus Mackaroni (U1137)
posted 52 minutes ago
Don't think Czechia beating Turkey will be a shock result tbf. They are higher in the FIFA rankings after all.
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Exactly, people are talking Turkey should be winning that game 9 times out of 10 - current form and past Euros heroics says otherwise.
The Czechs were a minute away from drawing with Portugal whereas Turkey had lost the game 20 mins in. It will be very tight but 1-0 Czechs is not going to be jaw dropping
comment by House - Free Mainoo (U17162)
posted 51 minutes ago
So if Czechia does beat Turkey then England play Slovakia?
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Yes - the 2 scenarios now are Netherlands or 3rd in Group E which looks very much like being Slovakia.
We need a win from either Czechs or Georgia to avoid the Netherlands
comment by Tyranny of the majority (SE85) (U21241)
posted 3 hours, 19 minutes ago
The new format is absolutely crap. Too much jeopardy has been taken away in MD3 and as somebody has pointed out above a few nations that play last on the gameweek know what they need to do to get through which can be an advantage. Afterall some nations are competing against more than just the teams in their group but other third place sides.
Scrap it and have a rethink for 2028. This doesn't work for me.
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Haha, good luck with that.
By 2032 we will have a 32 team Euro - that’s how they will get round it - which will be shiete given there is only 55 UEFA constituents and among the 55 are - Gibraltar, Faroes Islands, Andorra, San Marino, Liechtenstein, Luxembourg, Scotland, Malta, Latvia, Belarus, Estonia.
Imagine what qualifying for that monstrosity is going to look like
This may not please the purists but I wouldn't totally be against a 16 team Euros and also a 16 team Euros Plate/Conference kind of secondary tournament.
A lot of the fun in this Euros has been when some of the 'lesser' nations have played. It'd be a shame if there wasn't an opportunity for some of them to play on a major stage.
The Euro qualifiers could be:
5 groups of five
5 groups of six
Ten group winners go through and the 10 runners up into a play off. 15 teams plus one host.
Five losing play off teams and the ten third place teams go into the 'Plate/Conference' alongside a host.
Reduce the number of games in the Nations League by making them groups of three.
comment by Diafol Coch 77 🏴 (U2462)
posted 53 minutes ago
The Euro qualifiers could be:
5 groups of five
5 groups of six
Ten group winners go through and the 10 runners up into a play off. 15 teams plus one host.
Five losing play off teams and the ten third place teams go into the 'Plate/Conference' alongside a host.
Reduce the number of games in the Nations League by making them groups of three.
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TV, Hosting and increased revenue are your 3 reasons why that’s a non starter.
No faaacker is watching Estonia vs Latvia
comment by Striketeam7 - confident for Southgate’s nearly slaaaags (U18109)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Diafol Coch 77 🏴 (U2462)
posted 53 minutes ago
The Euro qualifiers could be:
5 groups of five
5 groups of six
Ten group winners go through and the 10 runners up into a play off. 15 teams plus one host.
Five losing play off teams and the ten third place teams go into the 'Plate/Conference' alongside a host.
Reduce the number of games in the Nations League by making them groups of three.
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TV, Hosting and increased revenue are your 3 reasons why that’s a non starter.
No faaacker is watching Estonia vs Latvia
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I'm pretty certain people would watch. Some of the games between the eastern European team alone have been good. TV will screen the Conference League so they'd screen this too IMO. Wales, Scotland, NI and Rep of Ireland would take large contingents of fans if they were in it as well as other countries too. It could even be a better spectacle as a lot of these players would see it as the pinnacle.
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posted on 26/6/24
Somewhat unfair that the teams playing later in the round might know better what they need to do to secure 3rd place than those playing at the weekend.
posted on 26/6/24
DJ - Austria can’t play the winner of group F no matter what
posted on 26/6/24
All eyes on group F really, that is where Englands fate will be decided. If Georgia or the Czechs win tonight then Hungary are out and England avoid the Netherlands.
Can’t see Romania hammering Slovakia by 4 or Slovakia hammering Romania by 5. That one is a non starter for me.
Germany will beat Denmark
I expect Italy to narrowly beat the Swiss - maybe pens
I think Austria will play Czechs and win narrowly
Spain will hump whoever they get -Turkey/Slovakia
England to narrowly beat Netherlands/Slovakia
Portugal to beat Slovenia
France will beat Romania
Belgium - lose to Holland, but beat Slovenia
That would set up mouth watering QF
Spain vs Germany
England vs Italy
France vs Portugal
Austria vs Belgium/Holland
posted on 26/6/24
comment by Striketeam7 - confident for Southgate’s ... (U18109)
posted 5 minutes ago
DJ - Austria can’t play the winner of group F no matter what
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Meant to be ruF, edited.
posted on 26/6/24
comment by Silver (U6112)
posted 9 minutes ago
Somewhat unfair that the teams playing later in the round might know better what they need to do to secure 3rd place than those playing at the weekend.
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Yeah the set up is absolutely ridiculous all ends up. 36 group games to knockout 8 sides and be left with the proper tournament.
Would love it to go back to 16 sides, that was ace. Unfortunately, it’s a better of time before we have a 32 team competition (from 55 UEFA nations) at which point it will be a faaacking joke, you will have groups like Germany, Bosnia, Poland, Estonia with the top 2 progressing.
posted on 26/6/24
comment by D'Jeezus Mackaroni (U1137)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Striketeam7 - confident for Southgate’s ... (U18109)
posted 5 minutes ago
DJ - Austria can’t play the winner of group F no matter what
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Meant to be ruF, edited.
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posted on 26/6/24
So England will most likely play the Netherlands on Sunday follwed by Italy if we win?
posted on 26/6/24
comment by manutd1982 (U6633)
posted 7 minutes ago
So England will most likely play the Netherlands on Sunday follwed by Italy if we win?
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Seems that way.
posted on 26/6/24
comment by D'Jeezus Mackaroni (U1137)
posted 10 seconds ago
comment by manutd1982 (U6633)
posted 7 minutes ago
So England will most likely play the Netherlands on Sunday follwed by Italy if we win?
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Seems that way.
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If Georgia or the Czechs win today then we will be playing 3rd in group E, if they don’t then it’s the Dutch. That’s the realistic scenarios.
posted on 26/6/24
Georgia and the Czechs ain't gonna win today (famous last words).
posted on 26/6/24
The new format is absolutely crap. Too much jeopardy has been taken away in MD3 and as somebody has pointed out above a few nations that play last on the gameweek know what they need to do to get through which can be an advantage. Afterall some nations are competing against more than just the teams in their group but other third place sides.
Scrap it and have a rethink for 2028. This doesn't work for me.
posted on 26/6/24
England (on paper) have a decent run to the final!!!!!!!
There are or should be some cracking games on the other side of the draw. trying to pick a finalist from them is a lottery.
posted on 26/6/24
comment by manutd1982 (U6633)
posted 2 hours, 57 minutes ago
Georgia and the Czechs ain't gonna win today (famous last words).
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Hmm maybe Czech surprise result v Turkey?
posted on 26/6/24
Don't think Czechia beating Turkey will be a shock result tbf. They are higher in the FIFA rankings after all.
posted on 26/6/24
So if Czechia does beat Turkey then England play Slovakia?
posted on 26/6/24
comment by House - Free Mainoo (U17162)
posted 1 minute ago
So if Czechia does beat Turkey then England play Slovakia?
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Well, whoever finishes 3rd in that group. Could be Belgium or Romania or Ukraine.
posted on 26/6/24
I'd rather play the Dutch... Let's have a challenge and see what happens... Might spring us into life or might show us up, but anything is better than another snore fest trying to break down a stubborn team.
posted on 26/6/24
comment by Silver (U6112)
posted 5 hours, 5 minutes ago
Somewhat unfair that the teams playing later in the round might know better what they need to do to secure 3rd place than those playing at the weekend.
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The 3rd place qualifying makes the group stages very dull, since teams know by game 2/3 that a drawer will do a lot of the time.
posted on 26/6/24
comment by D'Jeezus Mackaroni (U1137)
posted 52 minutes ago
Don't think Czechia beating Turkey will be a shock result tbf. They are higher in the FIFA rankings after all.
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Exactly, people are talking Turkey should be winning that game 9 times out of 10 - current form and past Euros heroics says otherwise.
The Czechs were a minute away from drawing with Portugal whereas Turkey had lost the game 20 mins in. It will be very tight but 1-0 Czechs is not going to be jaw dropping
posted on 26/6/24
comment by House - Free Mainoo (U17162)
posted 51 minutes ago
So if Czechia does beat Turkey then England play Slovakia?
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Yes - the 2 scenarios now are Netherlands or 3rd in Group E which looks very much like being Slovakia.
We need a win from either Czechs or Georgia to avoid the Netherlands
posted on 26/6/24
comment by Tyranny of the majority (SE85) (U21241)
posted 3 hours, 19 minutes ago
The new format is absolutely crap. Too much jeopardy has been taken away in MD3 and as somebody has pointed out above a few nations that play last on the gameweek know what they need to do to get through which can be an advantage. Afterall some nations are competing against more than just the teams in their group but other third place sides.
Scrap it and have a rethink for 2028. This doesn't work for me.
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Haha, good luck with that.
By 2032 we will have a 32 team Euro - that’s how they will get round it - which will be shiete given there is only 55 UEFA constituents and among the 55 are - Gibraltar, Faroes Islands, Andorra, San Marino, Liechtenstein, Luxembourg, Scotland, Malta, Latvia, Belarus, Estonia.
Imagine what qualifying for that monstrosity is going to look like
posted on 26/6/24
This may not please the purists but I wouldn't totally be against a 16 team Euros and also a 16 team Euros Plate/Conference kind of secondary tournament.
A lot of the fun in this Euros has been when some of the 'lesser' nations have played. It'd be a shame if there wasn't an opportunity for some of them to play on a major stage.
posted on 26/6/24
The Euro qualifiers could be:
5 groups of five
5 groups of six
Ten group winners go through and the 10 runners up into a play off. 15 teams plus one host.
Five losing play off teams and the ten third place teams go into the 'Plate/Conference' alongside a host.
Reduce the number of games in the Nations League by making them groups of three.
posted on 26/6/24
comment by Diafol Coch 77 🏴 (U2462)
posted 53 minutes ago
The Euro qualifiers could be:
5 groups of five
5 groups of six
Ten group winners go through and the 10 runners up into a play off. 15 teams plus one host.
Five losing play off teams and the ten third place teams go into the 'Plate/Conference' alongside a host.
Reduce the number of games in the Nations League by making them groups of three.
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TV, Hosting and increased revenue are your 3 reasons why that’s a non starter.
No faaacker is watching Estonia vs Latvia
posted on 26/6/24
comment by Striketeam7 - confident for Southgate’s nearly slaaaags (U18109)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Diafol Coch 77 🏴 (U2462)
posted 53 minutes ago
The Euro qualifiers could be:
5 groups of five
5 groups of six
Ten group winners go through and the 10 runners up into a play off. 15 teams plus one host.
Five losing play off teams and the ten third place teams go into the 'Plate/Conference' alongside a host.
Reduce the number of games in the Nations League by making them groups of three.
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TV, Hosting and increased revenue are your 3 reasons why that’s a non starter.
No faaacker is watching Estonia vs Latvia
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I'm pretty certain people would watch. Some of the games between the eastern European team alone have been good. TV will screen the Conference League so they'd screen this too IMO. Wales, Scotland, NI and Rep of Ireland would take large contingents of fans if they were in it as well as other countries too. It could even be a better spectacle as a lot of these players would see it as the pinnacle.
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