comment by Tyranny of the majority (SE85) (U21241)
posted 34 minutes ago
comment by Vengeance (U23079)
posted 25 minutes ago
Any news on Ugarte and/or Zubimendi or Fofana?!
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We won't be signing any of them without moving on either Mctominay or Casemiro. All the talk is Mctominay is staying now too so all rests on Cas and Saudi move.
Personally think it's a massive mistake if we don't improve the midfield though. Our defence didn't stand a chance last season because the midfield balance just wasn't there.
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We need at least one new CM this window, ideally 2 but like you say one of Casemiro or McT have to leave for that to happen. Going into the new season without a new CM would be disaster. Let's keep everything crossed some movement takes place!
comment by FFS Mike. (U1170)
posted 2 hours ago
comment by -bloodred- (U1222)
posted 24 minutes ago
comment by Red Russian (U4715)
posted 1 hour, 7 minutes ago
In other news, we've apparently just appointed hirsute non-Dutchman, Andreas Georgson, as a first-team coach, likely as a set-piece specialist. He has previously worked with Arsenal, Brentford and Southampton, where he's credited with quickly transforming their short team from being the second worst at defending corners in the Championship to the best, and also a potent attacking side from corners. He left them in January to become head coach of Lillestrom.
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Feels like good news...I remember seeing this thread a few weeks back which compared the teams with a set piece coach vs those without
https://x.com/TheDevilsDNA/status/1800213181023039986
When you see it laid out like that you wonder why all sides aren't doing it...
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I thought we did have one though last year, the guy we got from Chelsea or Arsenal?
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Don't recall us having one before - could be wrong
comment by Tyranny of the majority (SE85) (U21241)
posted 8 hours, 45 minutes ago
comment by Vengeance (U23079)
posted 25 minutes ago
Any news on Ugarte and/or Zubimendi or Fofana?!
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We won't be signing any of them without moving on either Mctominay or Casemiro. All the talk is Mctominay is staying now too so all rests on Cas and Saudi move.
Personally think it's a massive mistake if we don't improve the midfield though. Our defence didn't stand a chance last season because the midfield balance just wasn't there.
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Agreed. There will no significant improvement if we don’t bring in at least one midfielder.
comment by -bloodred- (U1222)
posted 7 hours, 33 minutes ago
comment by FFS Mike. (U1170)
posted 2 hours ago
comment by -bloodred- (U1222)
posted 24 minutes ago
comment by Red Russian (U4715)
posted 1 hour, 7 minutes ago
In other news, we've apparently just appointed hirsute non-Dutchman, Andreas Georgson, as a first-team coach, likely as a set-piece specialist. He has previously worked with Arsenal, Brentford and Southampton, where he's credited with quickly transforming their short team from being the second worst at defending corners in the Championship to the best, and also a potent attacking side from corners. He left them in January to become head coach of Lillestrom.
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Feels like good news...I remember seeing this thread a few weeks back which compared the teams with a set piece coach vs those without
https://x.com/TheDevilsDNA/status/1800213181023039986
When you see it laid out like that you wonder why all sides aren't doing it...
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I thought we did have one though last year, the guy we got from Chelsea or Arsenal?
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Don't recall us having one before - could be wrong
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https://trainingground.guru/articles/chelseas-ramsay-appointed-as-man-utds-first-set-piece-coach
This guy, who has now been let go.
comment by The Process (U20671)
posted 2 hours, 14 minutes ago
comment by Tyranny of the majority (SE85) (U21241)
posted 8 hours, 45 minutes ago
comment by Vengeance (U23079)
posted 25 minutes ago
Any news on Ugarte and/or Zubimendi or Fofana?!
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We won't be signing any of them without moving on either Mctominay or Casemiro. All the talk is Mctominay is staying now too so all rests on Cas and Saudi move.
Personally think it's a massive mistake if we don't improve the midfield though. Our defence didn't stand a chance last season because the midfield balance just wasn't there.
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Agreed. There will no significant improvement if we don’t bring in at least one midfielder.
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Unfortunately the sins of the past are coming back to haunt us now.
We spent 60m on a past his best Casemiro and put him on a huge contract. We spent 80m on Antony when we had Amad already here who most believe is the better player.
Even spending 49m on Onana hasn't been good value. Are we any better than we were than with DDG? Not at all really. At the best you could say we are about the same so we spent nearly £50m to stand still.
I still don't trust this manager personally and I think the fact that all his coaching team has been removed and replaced is actually bad news for him. Clearly his judgement is being called out here right? Most of his choices for player acquisition and coaching staff have failed.
comment by Tyranny of the majority (SE85)
posted 46 minutes ago
comment by The Process (U20671)
posted 2 hours, 14 minutes ago
comment by Tyranny of the majority (SE85) (U21241)
posted 8 hours, 45 minutes ago
comment by Vengeance (U23079)
posted 25 minutes ago
Any news on Ugarte and/or Zubimendi or Fofana?!
----------------------------------------------------------------------
We won't be signing any of them without moving on either Mctominay or Casemiro. All the talk is Mctominay is staying now too so all rests on Cas and Saudi move.
Personally think it's a massive mistake if we don't improve the midfield though. Our defence didn't stand a chance last season because the midfield balance just wasn't there.
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Agreed. There will no significant improvement if we don’t bring in at least one midfielder.
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Unfortunately the sins of the past are coming back to haunt us now.
We spent 60m on a past his best Casemiro and put him on a huge contract. We spent 80m on Antony when we had Amad already here who most believe is the better player.
Even spending 49m on Onana hasn't been good value. Are we any better than we were than with DDG? Not at all really. At the best you could say we are about the same so we spent nearly £50m to stand still.
I still don't trust this manager personally and I think the fact that all his coaching team has been removed and replaced is actually bad news for him. Clearly his judgement is being called out here right? Most of his choices for player acquisition and coaching staff have failed.
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You are sounding like a broken record again, any excuse to have a pop at ETH in almost every thread you post in.
We don't need reminding what took place in the past, you do it so often how can anyone forget?!
I'm not sure selling a midfielder is a prerequisite for signing one. Selling players - generally - will be necessary to invest in new ones. But we're already one midfielder down (Amrabat) so I don't see why money generated from a non-midfield sale wouldn't be reinvested in a DM.
If we can't afford a new DM, though, it doesn't mean we are fated to repeat last season's failings. We also have the possibility of changing the game plan so we aren't asking midfielders to defend an impossibly wide space.
SE85 is right about the sins of the past but I find the overall spin unnecessarily doomy. Major reconfiguration of the coaching team is surely a welcome thing when individually and collectively performances were bad last season. We have several big personalities used to head coaching positions who will not shrink from challenging players - and challenging ETH. Not guaranteed to be a success but a positive development in my view. As for player acquisition, as people keep replying, ETH should *never* have been put in the position to recommend players to the club, which should have had the capability to tell him who were the best buys in the roles he required. That's not on ETH. And it's not relevant going forward because the club has a totally different, far more qualified and authoritative sporting and recruitment structure behind him now.
As for Onana, I do think he's a substantial improvement over DDG in the long term. We replaced a keeper who had totally the wrong profile and made regular mistakes leading to goals with a keeper of the right profile who did make a string of costly mistakes but over the season was one of the better shot stoppers in the league.
comment by Vengeance (U23079)
posted 51 minutes ago
comment by Tyranny of the majority (SE85)
posted 46 minutes ago
comment by The Process (U20671)
posted 2 hours, 14 minutes ago
comment by Tyranny of the majority (SE85) (U21241)
posted 8 hours, 45 minutes ago
comment by Vengeance (U23079)
posted 25 minutes ago
Any news on Ugarte and/or Zubimendi or Fofana?!
----------------------------------------------------------------------
We won't be signing any of them without moving on either Mctominay or Casemiro. All the talk is Mctominay is staying now too so all rests on Cas and Saudi move.
Personally think it's a massive mistake if we don't improve the midfield though. Our defence didn't stand a chance last season because the midfield balance just wasn't there.
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Agreed. There will no significant improvement if we don’t bring in at least one midfielder.
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Unfortunately the sins of the past are coming back to haunt us now.
We spent 60m on a past his best Casemiro and put him on a huge contract. We spent 80m on Antony when we had Amad already here who most believe is the better player.
Even spending 49m on Onana hasn't been good value. Are we any better than we were than with DDG? Not at all really. At the best you could say we are about the same so we spent nearly £50m to stand still.
I still don't trust this manager personally and I think the fact that all his coaching team has been removed and replaced is actually bad news for him. Clearly his judgement is being called out here right? Most of his choices for player acquisition and coaching staff have failed.
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You are sounding like a broken record again, any excuse to have a pop at ETH in almost every thread you post in.
We don't need reminding what took place in the past, you do it so often how can anyone forget?!
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I'm not allowed an opinion because it's not the same as yours. That's how this works with you isn't it?
As for player acquisition, as people keep replying, ETH should *never* have been put in the position to recommend players to the club, which should have had the capability to tell him who were the best buys in the roles he required. That's not on ETH.
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RR, it hurts my head how often this has to be repeated. SE85 has shown repeatedly that he just doesn't understand or get this. It's excruciating.
comment by BerbaKing11 (U6256)
posted 27 seconds ago
As for player acquisition, as people keep replying, ETH should *never* have been put in the position to recommend players to the club, which should have had the capability to tell him who were the best buys in the roles he required. That's not on ETH.
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RR, it hurts my head how often this has to be repeated. SE85 has shown repeatedly that he just doesn't understand or get this. It's excruciating.
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This is the latest cop out though. Because he shouldn't have been put in that position doesn't mean we can't question some of his signings.
It's actually a weird cult this place now. We finished 8th and had our worst ever PL season. We were miles off the top two and yet any criticism is deemed unfair to him by you lot. It's absolutely bonkers.
SE85 you really don't understand, do you? No one is saying we can't criticise ETH. I told you explicitly more than once that I thought it would have been reasonable to sack Ten Hag based on his failure to come up with solutions to the tactical and performance issues that plagued the side last season. What doesn't make sense is blaming him for decisions that the club should never have asked him to make because he wasn't qualified to judge. Nor does his inability to lead recruitment operations have any relevance in whether he should continue in his employment under a structure with much more rigorous and qualified sporting leadership that won't allow him to make bad selections.
This isn't a defence of ETH. It has always been a defence of basic logical thought.
I'm not allowed an opinion because it's not the same as yours. That's how this works with you isn't it?
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It isn’t your opinion, so much, that Plumpy has an issue with. It is your constant repetition of it.
Also: yes, question the signings! We all question the signings. What we question is not being able to mention the strategic error of signing Casemiro without dropping in a ETH-out in the same sentence.
comment by Red Russian (U4715)
posted 15 seconds ago
Also: yes, question the signings! We all question the signings. What we question is not being able to mention the strategic error of signing Casemiro without dropping in a ETH-out in the same sentence.
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I question the tactics too. Playing suicidal basketball style football for 3 months last season led us to conceding the second most shots on target in the entire 92 Football league system for that period.
Erik said he wasn't concerned by those stats though.
Losing 19 games?
Finishing bottom of a very average CL group?
There's more than just signings I'm afraid you can pick at and you know this too.
SE85, this place is made for debate, but you simply don't understand, more like you refuse to because you are fixated about getting your prediction right. You are agenda driven, it's a toxic mix. It's the same old cr@p in every thread.
It's really tiresome stuff.
AND NO ONE IS TAKING ISSUE WITH ANY OF THAT!
Are you actually seeing what people write or just skimming and filling in the gaps? I just said on this page I thought it was reasonable to sack him based on his failings as a coach. Based on exactly the things you just listed. Most people on this board thought he was lucky to avoid the sack and has a great deal to prove this season. Why do you think you're some kind of outlier? Why don't you understand that it's not in defence of ETH that people keep picking up on your posts?
Classic SE85 🤣
SE85, new season, find reasons to be optimistic, stop being a wet wipe all the time. Do the match thread in the early hours!
comment by Vengeance (U23079)
posted 12 minutes ago
SE85, this place is made for debate, but you simply don't understand, more like you refuse to because you are fixated about getting your prediction right. You are agenda driven, it's a toxic mix. It's the same old cr@p in every thread.
It's really tiresome stuff.
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I am debating. You don't agree with me and that's fine. I'm not really bothered if you do or don't really.
Time will tell us who is right I suppose. I don't think he's up to the job and many others on here said same including likes of VC.
I'm expecting 5th or 6th place at best this season.
comment by Vengeance (U23079)
posted 8 minutes ago
Classic SE85 🤣
SE85, new season, find reasons to be optimistic, stop being a wet wipe all the time. Do the match thread in the early hours!
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I won't be staying up that late for a friendly. 😂
comment by Tyranny of the majority (SE85) (U21241)
posted 22 seconds ago
comment by Vengeance (U23079)
posted 8 minutes ago
Classic SE85 🤣
SE85, new season, find reasons to be optimistic, stop being a wet wipe all the time. Do the match thread in the early hours!
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I won't be staying up that late for a friendly. 😂
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I can't sleep knowing Utd are playing, it's a curse!
comment by FFS Mike. (U1170)
posted 3 hours, 48 minutes ago
comment by -bloodred- (U1222)
posted 7 hours, 33 minutes ago
comment by FFS Mike. (U1170)
posted 2 hours ago
comment by -bloodred- (U1222)
posted 24 minutes ago
comment by Red Russian (U4715)
posted 1 hour, 7 minutes ago
In other news, we've apparently just appointed hirsute non-Dutchman, Andreas Georgson, as a first-team coach, likely as a set-piece specialist. He has previously worked with Arsenal, Brentford and Southampton, where he's credited with quickly transforming their short team from being the second worst at defending corners in the Championship to the best, and also a potent attacking side from corners. He left them in January to become head coach of Lillestrom.
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Feels like good news...I remember seeing this thread a few weeks back which compared the teams with a set piece coach vs those without
https://x.com/TheDevilsDNA/status/1800213181023039986
When you see it laid out like that you wonder why all sides aren't doing it...
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I thought we did have one though last year, the guy we got from Chelsea or Arsenal?
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Don't recall us having one before - could be wrong
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https://trainingground.guru/articles/chelseas-ramsay-appointed-as-man-utds-first-set-piece-coach
This guy, who has now been let go.
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Ah, yeah of course. I don't think Ramsay was "let go" as such though. He got offered a managerial position in the MLS last season and we let him leave (reluctantly, by all accounts).
Ramsay was apparently quite highly regarded internally - which made me think he probably oversaw more than just set pieces as obviously our numbers there were nothing to write home about.
comment by Tyranny of the majority (SE85) (U21241)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Vengeance (U23079)
posted 12 minutes ago
SE85, this place is made for debate, but you simply don't understand, more like you refuse to because you are fixated about getting your prediction right. You are agenda driven, it's a toxic mix. It's the same old cr@p in every thread.
It's really tiresome stuff.
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I am debating. You don't agree with me and that's fine. I'm not really bothered if you do or don't really.
Time will tell us who is right I suppose. I don't think he's up to the job and many others on here said same including likes of VC.
I'm expecting 5th or 6th place at best this season.
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I know there's a small cluster of fans who simply do not know what to do with themselves because their prediction backfired but NONE go to same lengths to repeat the same nonsense, you're an exception without doubt.
Anyway, debate without being a broken record in every thread. 👍
Interesting that SE85 refuses to respond to RR's detailed deconstruction of his points but will jump on low hanging fruit very quickly in responding to Vengeance.
comment by BerbaKing11 (U6256)
posted 1 minute ago
Interesting that SE85 refuses to respond to RR's detailed deconstruction of his points but will jump on low hanging fruit very quickly in responding to Vengeance.
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Isn't that is M.O.?
comment by BerbaKing11 (U6256)
posted 8 minutes ago
Interesting that SE85 refuses to respond to RR's detailed deconstruction of his points but will jump on low hanging fruit very quickly in responding to Vengeance.
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That's got to hurt.
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posted on 26/7/24
comment by Tyranny of the majority (SE85) (U21241)
posted 34 minutes ago
comment by Vengeance (U23079)
posted 25 minutes ago
Any news on Ugarte and/or Zubimendi or Fofana?!
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We won't be signing any of them without moving on either Mctominay or Casemiro. All the talk is Mctominay is staying now too so all rests on Cas and Saudi move.
Personally think it's a massive mistake if we don't improve the midfield though. Our defence didn't stand a chance last season because the midfield balance just wasn't there.
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We need at least one new CM this window, ideally 2 but like you say one of Casemiro or McT have to leave for that to happen. Going into the new season without a new CM would be disaster. Let's keep everything crossed some movement takes place!
posted on 27/7/24
comment by FFS Mike. (U1170)
posted 2 hours ago
comment by -bloodred- (U1222)
posted 24 minutes ago
comment by Red Russian (U4715)
posted 1 hour, 7 minutes ago
In other news, we've apparently just appointed hirsute non-Dutchman, Andreas Georgson, as a first-team coach, likely as a set-piece specialist. He has previously worked with Arsenal, Brentford and Southampton, where he's credited with quickly transforming their short team from being the second worst at defending corners in the Championship to the best, and also a potent attacking side from corners. He left them in January to become head coach of Lillestrom.
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Feels like good news...I remember seeing this thread a few weeks back which compared the teams with a set piece coach vs those without
https://x.com/TheDevilsDNA/status/1800213181023039986
When you see it laid out like that you wonder why all sides aren't doing it...
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I thought we did have one though last year, the guy we got from Chelsea or Arsenal?
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Don't recall us having one before - could be wrong
posted on 27/7/24
comment by Tyranny of the majority (SE85) (U21241)
posted 8 hours, 45 minutes ago
comment by Vengeance (U23079)
posted 25 minutes ago
Any news on Ugarte and/or Zubimendi or Fofana?!
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We won't be signing any of them without moving on either Mctominay or Casemiro. All the talk is Mctominay is staying now too so all rests on Cas and Saudi move.
Personally think it's a massive mistake if we don't improve the midfield though. Our defence didn't stand a chance last season because the midfield balance just wasn't there.
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Agreed. There will no significant improvement if we don’t bring in at least one midfielder.
posted on 27/7/24
comment by -bloodred- (U1222)
posted 7 hours, 33 minutes ago
comment by FFS Mike. (U1170)
posted 2 hours ago
comment by -bloodred- (U1222)
posted 24 minutes ago
comment by Red Russian (U4715)
posted 1 hour, 7 minutes ago
In other news, we've apparently just appointed hirsute non-Dutchman, Andreas Georgson, as a first-team coach, likely as a set-piece specialist. He has previously worked with Arsenal, Brentford and Southampton, where he's credited with quickly transforming their short team from being the second worst at defending corners in the Championship to the best, and also a potent attacking side from corners. He left them in January to become head coach of Lillestrom.
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Feels like good news...I remember seeing this thread a few weeks back which compared the teams with a set piece coach vs those without
https://x.com/TheDevilsDNA/status/1800213181023039986
When you see it laid out like that you wonder why all sides aren't doing it...
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I thought we did have one though last year, the guy we got from Chelsea or Arsenal?
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Don't recall us having one before - could be wrong
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https://trainingground.guru/articles/chelseas-ramsay-appointed-as-man-utds-first-set-piece-coach
This guy, who has now been let go.
posted on 27/7/24
comment by The Process (U20671)
posted 2 hours, 14 minutes ago
comment by Tyranny of the majority (SE85) (U21241)
posted 8 hours, 45 minutes ago
comment by Vengeance (U23079)
posted 25 minutes ago
Any news on Ugarte and/or Zubimendi or Fofana?!
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We won't be signing any of them without moving on either Mctominay or Casemiro. All the talk is Mctominay is staying now too so all rests on Cas and Saudi move.
Personally think it's a massive mistake if we don't improve the midfield though. Our defence didn't stand a chance last season because the midfield balance just wasn't there.
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Agreed. There will no significant improvement if we don’t bring in at least one midfielder.
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Unfortunately the sins of the past are coming back to haunt us now.
We spent 60m on a past his best Casemiro and put him on a huge contract. We spent 80m on Antony when we had Amad already here who most believe is the better player.
Even spending 49m on Onana hasn't been good value. Are we any better than we were than with DDG? Not at all really. At the best you could say we are about the same so we spent nearly £50m to stand still.
I still don't trust this manager personally and I think the fact that all his coaching team has been removed and replaced is actually bad news for him. Clearly his judgement is being called out here right? Most of his choices for player acquisition and coaching staff have failed.
posted on 27/7/24
comment by Tyranny of the majority (SE85)
posted 46 minutes ago
comment by The Process (U20671)
posted 2 hours, 14 minutes ago
comment by Tyranny of the majority (SE85) (U21241)
posted 8 hours, 45 minutes ago
comment by Vengeance (U23079)
posted 25 minutes ago
Any news on Ugarte and/or Zubimendi or Fofana?!
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We won't be signing any of them without moving on either Mctominay or Casemiro. All the talk is Mctominay is staying now too so all rests on Cas and Saudi move.
Personally think it's a massive mistake if we don't improve the midfield though. Our defence didn't stand a chance last season because the midfield balance just wasn't there.
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Agreed. There will no significant improvement if we don’t bring in at least one midfielder.
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Unfortunately the sins of the past are coming back to haunt us now.
We spent 60m on a past his best Casemiro and put him on a huge contract. We spent 80m on Antony when we had Amad already here who most believe is the better player.
Even spending 49m on Onana hasn't been good value. Are we any better than we were than with DDG? Not at all really. At the best you could say we are about the same so we spent nearly £50m to stand still.
I still don't trust this manager personally and I think the fact that all his coaching team has been removed and replaced is actually bad news for him. Clearly his judgement is being called out here right? Most of his choices for player acquisition and coaching staff have failed.
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You are sounding like a broken record again, any excuse to have a pop at ETH in almost every thread you post in.
We don't need reminding what took place in the past, you do it so often how can anyone forget?!
posted on 27/7/24
I'm not sure selling a midfielder is a prerequisite for signing one. Selling players - generally - will be necessary to invest in new ones. But we're already one midfielder down (Amrabat) so I don't see why money generated from a non-midfield sale wouldn't be reinvested in a DM.
If we can't afford a new DM, though, it doesn't mean we are fated to repeat last season's failings. We also have the possibility of changing the game plan so we aren't asking midfielders to defend an impossibly wide space.
SE85 is right about the sins of the past but I find the overall spin unnecessarily doomy. Major reconfiguration of the coaching team is surely a welcome thing when individually and collectively performances were bad last season. We have several big personalities used to head coaching positions who will not shrink from challenging players - and challenging ETH. Not guaranteed to be a success but a positive development in my view. As for player acquisition, as people keep replying, ETH should *never* have been put in the position to recommend players to the club, which should have had the capability to tell him who were the best buys in the roles he required. That's not on ETH. And it's not relevant going forward because the club has a totally different, far more qualified and authoritative sporting and recruitment structure behind him now.
As for Onana, I do think he's a substantial improvement over DDG in the long term. We replaced a keeper who had totally the wrong profile and made regular mistakes leading to goals with a keeper of the right profile who did make a string of costly mistakes but over the season was one of the better shot stoppers in the league.
posted on 27/7/24
comment by Vengeance (U23079)
posted 51 minutes ago
comment by Tyranny of the majority (SE85)
posted 46 minutes ago
comment by The Process (U20671)
posted 2 hours, 14 minutes ago
comment by Tyranny of the majority (SE85) (U21241)
posted 8 hours, 45 minutes ago
comment by Vengeance (U23079)
posted 25 minutes ago
Any news on Ugarte and/or Zubimendi or Fofana?!
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We won't be signing any of them without moving on either Mctominay or Casemiro. All the talk is Mctominay is staying now too so all rests on Cas and Saudi move.
Personally think it's a massive mistake if we don't improve the midfield though. Our defence didn't stand a chance last season because the midfield balance just wasn't there.
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Agreed. There will no significant improvement if we don’t bring in at least one midfielder.
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Unfortunately the sins of the past are coming back to haunt us now.
We spent 60m on a past his best Casemiro and put him on a huge contract. We spent 80m on Antony when we had Amad already here who most believe is the better player.
Even spending 49m on Onana hasn't been good value. Are we any better than we were than with DDG? Not at all really. At the best you could say we are about the same so we spent nearly £50m to stand still.
I still don't trust this manager personally and I think the fact that all his coaching team has been removed and replaced is actually bad news for him. Clearly his judgement is being called out here right? Most of his choices for player acquisition and coaching staff have failed.
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You are sounding like a broken record again, any excuse to have a pop at ETH in almost every thread you post in.
We don't need reminding what took place in the past, you do it so often how can anyone forget?!
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I'm not allowed an opinion because it's not the same as yours. That's how this works with you isn't it?
posted on 27/7/24
As for player acquisition, as people keep replying, ETH should *never* have been put in the position to recommend players to the club, which should have had the capability to tell him who were the best buys in the roles he required. That's not on ETH.
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RR, it hurts my head how often this has to be repeated. SE85 has shown repeatedly that he just doesn't understand or get this. It's excruciating.
posted on 27/7/24
comment by BerbaKing11 (U6256)
posted 27 seconds ago
As for player acquisition, as people keep replying, ETH should *never* have been put in the position to recommend players to the club, which should have had the capability to tell him who were the best buys in the roles he required. That's not on ETH.
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RR, it hurts my head how often this has to be repeated. SE85 has shown repeatedly that he just doesn't understand or get this. It's excruciating.
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This is the latest cop out though. Because he shouldn't have been put in that position doesn't mean we can't question some of his signings.
It's actually a weird cult this place now. We finished 8th and had our worst ever PL season. We were miles off the top two and yet any criticism is deemed unfair to him by you lot. It's absolutely bonkers.
posted on 27/7/24
SE85 you really don't understand, do you? No one is saying we can't criticise ETH. I told you explicitly more than once that I thought it would have been reasonable to sack Ten Hag based on his failure to come up with solutions to the tactical and performance issues that plagued the side last season. What doesn't make sense is blaming him for decisions that the club should never have asked him to make because he wasn't qualified to judge. Nor does his inability to lead recruitment operations have any relevance in whether he should continue in his employment under a structure with much more rigorous and qualified sporting leadership that won't allow him to make bad selections.
This isn't a defence of ETH. It has always been a defence of basic logical thought.
posted on 27/7/24
I'm not allowed an opinion because it's not the same as yours. That's how this works with you isn't it?
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It isn’t your opinion, so much, that Plumpy has an issue with. It is your constant repetition of it.
posted on 27/7/24
Also: yes, question the signings! We all question the signings. What we question is not being able to mention the strategic error of signing Casemiro without dropping in a ETH-out in the same sentence.
posted on 27/7/24
comment by Red Russian (U4715)
posted 15 seconds ago
Also: yes, question the signings! We all question the signings. What we question is not being able to mention the strategic error of signing Casemiro without dropping in a ETH-out in the same sentence.
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I question the tactics too. Playing suicidal basketball style football for 3 months last season led us to conceding the second most shots on target in the entire 92 Football league system for that period.
Erik said he wasn't concerned by those stats though.
Losing 19 games?
Finishing bottom of a very average CL group?
There's more than just signings I'm afraid you can pick at and you know this too.
posted on 27/7/24
SE85, this place is made for debate, but you simply don't understand, more like you refuse to because you are fixated about getting your prediction right. You are agenda driven, it's a toxic mix. It's the same old cr@p in every thread.
It's really tiresome stuff.
posted on 27/7/24
AND NO ONE IS TAKING ISSUE WITH ANY OF THAT!
Are you actually seeing what people write or just skimming and filling in the gaps? I just said on this page I thought it was reasonable to sack him based on his failings as a coach. Based on exactly the things you just listed. Most people on this board thought he was lucky to avoid the sack and has a great deal to prove this season. Why do you think you're some kind of outlier? Why don't you understand that it's not in defence of ETH that people keep picking up on your posts?
posted on 27/7/24
Classic SE85 🤣
SE85, new season, find reasons to be optimistic, stop being a wet wipe all the time. Do the match thread in the early hours!
posted on 27/7/24
comment by Vengeance (U23079)
posted 12 minutes ago
SE85, this place is made for debate, but you simply don't understand, more like you refuse to because you are fixated about getting your prediction right. You are agenda driven, it's a toxic mix. It's the same old cr@p in every thread.
It's really tiresome stuff.
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I am debating. You don't agree with me and that's fine. I'm not really bothered if you do or don't really.
Time will tell us who is right I suppose. I don't think he's up to the job and many others on here said same including likes of VC.
I'm expecting 5th or 6th place at best this season.
posted on 27/7/24
comment by Vengeance (U23079)
posted 8 minutes ago
Classic SE85 🤣
SE85, new season, find reasons to be optimistic, stop being a wet wipe all the time. Do the match thread in the early hours!
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I won't be staying up that late for a friendly. 😂
posted on 27/7/24
comment by Tyranny of the majority (SE85) (U21241)
posted 22 seconds ago
comment by Vengeance (U23079)
posted 8 minutes ago
Classic SE85 🤣
SE85, new season, find reasons to be optimistic, stop being a wet wipe all the time. Do the match thread in the early hours!
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I won't be staying up that late for a friendly. 😂
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I can't sleep knowing Utd are playing, it's a curse!
posted on 27/7/24
comment by FFS Mike. (U1170)
posted 3 hours, 48 minutes ago
comment by -bloodred- (U1222)
posted 7 hours, 33 minutes ago
comment by FFS Mike. (U1170)
posted 2 hours ago
comment by -bloodred- (U1222)
posted 24 minutes ago
comment by Red Russian (U4715)
posted 1 hour, 7 minutes ago
In other news, we've apparently just appointed hirsute non-Dutchman, Andreas Georgson, as a first-team coach, likely as a set-piece specialist. He has previously worked with Arsenal, Brentford and Southampton, where he's credited with quickly transforming their short team from being the second worst at defending corners in the Championship to the best, and also a potent attacking side from corners. He left them in January to become head coach of Lillestrom.
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Feels like good news...I remember seeing this thread a few weeks back which compared the teams with a set piece coach vs those without
https://x.com/TheDevilsDNA/status/1800213181023039986
When you see it laid out like that you wonder why all sides aren't doing it...
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I thought we did have one though last year, the guy we got from Chelsea or Arsenal?
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Don't recall us having one before - could be wrong
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https://trainingground.guru/articles/chelseas-ramsay-appointed-as-man-utds-first-set-piece-coach
This guy, who has now been let go.
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Ah, yeah of course. I don't think Ramsay was "let go" as such though. He got offered a managerial position in the MLS last season and we let him leave (reluctantly, by all accounts).
Ramsay was apparently quite highly regarded internally - which made me think he probably oversaw more than just set pieces as obviously our numbers there were nothing to write home about.
posted on 27/7/24
comment by Tyranny of the majority (SE85) (U21241)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Vengeance (U23079)
posted 12 minutes ago
SE85, this place is made for debate, but you simply don't understand, more like you refuse to because you are fixated about getting your prediction right. You are agenda driven, it's a toxic mix. It's the same old cr@p in every thread.
It's really tiresome stuff.
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I am debating. You don't agree with me and that's fine. I'm not really bothered if you do or don't really.
Time will tell us who is right I suppose. I don't think he's up to the job and many others on here said same including likes of VC.
I'm expecting 5th or 6th place at best this season.
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I know there's a small cluster of fans who simply do not know what to do with themselves because their prediction backfired but NONE go to same lengths to repeat the same nonsense, you're an exception without doubt.
Anyway, debate without being a broken record in every thread. 👍
posted on 27/7/24
Interesting that SE85 refuses to respond to RR's detailed deconstruction of his points but will jump on low hanging fruit very quickly in responding to Vengeance.
posted on 27/7/24
comment by BerbaKing11 (U6256)
posted 1 minute ago
Interesting that SE85 refuses to respond to RR's detailed deconstruction of his points but will jump on low hanging fruit very quickly in responding to Vengeance.
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Isn't that is M.O.?
posted on 27/7/24
comment by BerbaKing11 (U6256)
posted 8 minutes ago
Interesting that SE85 refuses to respond to RR's detailed deconstruction of his points but will jump on low hanging fruit very quickly in responding to Vengeance.
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That's got to hurt.
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