"This self righteous individual will pretend he knows everything about the secretive Russian but in reality knows as much about him as I know about Bee Keeping!"
https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/business/2022/mar/10/shares-in-evraz-steel-firm-part-owned-by-roman-abramovich-suspended
comment by BrummieBlue! (U3487)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by FieldsofAnfieldRd (U18971)
posted 4 minutes ago
"whilst overlooking the fact their very own club owe their existence to seedy shenanigans and dodgy external money!"
Which clubs?
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Arsenal
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Ah right you're going back that far. Come on now Brummie you can do better.
comment by FieldsofAnfieldRd (U18971)
posted 2 minutes ago
"This self righteous individual will pretend he knows everything about the secretive Russian but in reality knows as much about him as I know about Bee Keeping!"
https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/business/2022/mar/10/shares-in-evraz-steel-firm-part-owned-by-roman-abramovich-suspended
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That was two years ago and everyone knows Evraz is RA's company - not sure what your point is here!
But you went back over 100 years to point score with an Arsenal fan?
comment by FieldsofAnfieldRd (U18971)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by BrummieBlue! (U3487)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by FieldsofAnfieldRd (U18971)
posted 4 minutes ago
"whilst overlooking the fact their very own club owe their existence to seedy shenanigans and dodgy external money!"
Which clubs?
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Arsenal
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Ah right you're going back that far. Come on now Brummie you can do better.
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It's a fact though - modern day Arsenal wouldn't exist without that part of their history, at least not in their current guise!
Nothing more than an early day MK Dons!
comment by BrummieBlue! (U3487)
posted 23 seconds ago
comment by FieldsofAnfieldRd (U18971)
posted 2 minutes ago
"This self righteous individual will pretend he knows everything about the secretive Russian but in reality knows as much about him as I know about Bee Keeping!"
https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/business/2022/mar/10/shares-in-evraz-steel-firm-part-owned-by-roman-abramovich-suspended
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That was two years ago and everyone knows Evraz is RA's company - not sure what your point is here!
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Ah right so Arsenal way back in the early 20th century something something, but dismiss Roman owning a factory supplying materials for tanks used in an illegal war two years ago.
Cool
not sure what your point is here!
===
How does that sand taste Brummie? Hopefully not laced with the blood of all the bodies that were buried to cover up Abramovich's crimes!
comment by FieldsofAnfieldRd (U18971)
posted 9 minutes ago
comment by BrummieBlue! (U3487)
posted 23 seconds ago
comment by FieldsofAnfieldRd (U18971)
posted 2 minutes ago
"This self righteous individual will pretend he knows everything about the secretive Russian but in reality knows as much about him as I know about Bee Keeping!"
https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/business/2022/mar/10/shares-in-evraz-steel-firm-part-owned-by-roman-abramovich-suspended
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That was two years ago and everyone knows Evraz is RA's company - not sure what your point is here!
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Ah right so Arsenal way back in the early 20th century something something, but dismiss Roman owning a factory supplying materials for tanks used in an illegal war two years ago.
Cool
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Did you think the Iraq war was an illegal war?
comment by Tu Meke (U3732)
posted 4 minutes ago
not sure what your point is here!
===
How does that sand taste Brummie? Hopefully not laced with the blood of all the bodies that were buried to cover up Abramovich's crimes!
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I'll await with eager anticipation your proof!
You're nothing more than a hypocrit!
comment by BrummieBlue! (U3487)
posted 15 seconds ago
comment by FieldsofAnfieldRd (U18971)
posted 9 minutes ago
comment by BrummieBlue! (U3487)
posted 23 seconds ago
comment by FieldsofAnfieldRd (U18971)
posted 2 minutes ago
"This self righteous individual will pretend he knows everything about the secretive Russian but in reality knows as much about him as I know about Bee Keeping!"
https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/business/2022/mar/10/shares-in-evraz-steel-firm-part-owned-by-roman-abramovich-suspended
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That was two years ago and everyone knows Evraz is RA's company - not sure what your point is here!
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Ah right so Arsenal way back in the early 20th century something something, but dismiss Roman owning a factory supplying materials for tanks used in an illegal war two years ago.
Cool
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Did you think the Iraq war was an illegal war?
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Yes
Brummie
Do you not think Russia's invasion of Ukraine is illegal?
comment by FieldsofAnfieldRd (U18971)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by BrummieBlue! (U3487)
posted 15 seconds ago
comment by FieldsofAnfieldRd (U18971)
posted 9 minutes ago
comment by BrummieBlue! (U3487)
posted 23 seconds ago
comment by FieldsofAnfieldRd (U18971)
posted 2 minutes ago
"This self righteous individual will pretend he knows everything about the secretive Russian but in reality knows as much about him as I know about Bee Keeping!"
https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/business/2022/mar/10/shares-in-evraz-steel-firm-part-owned-by-roman-abramovich-suspended
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That was two years ago and everyone knows Evraz is RA's company - not sure what your point is here!
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Ah right so Arsenal way back in the early 20th century something something, but dismiss Roman owning a factory supplying materials for tanks used in an illegal war two years ago.
Cool
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Did you think the Iraq war was an illegal war?
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Yes
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Then by your logic, shouldn't British Steel be sanctioned for selling steel to the British Government for making Challenger Tanks?
comment by FieldsofAnfieldRd (U18971)
posted 6 minutes ago
Brummie
Do you not think Russia's invasion of Ukraine is illegal?
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Absolutely 100% it is!
comment by BrummieBlue! (U3487)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by FieldsofAnfieldRd (U18971)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by BrummieBlue! (U3487)
posted 15 seconds ago
comment by FieldsofAnfieldRd (U18971)
posted 9 minutes ago
comment by BrummieBlue! (U3487)
posted 23 seconds ago
comment by FieldsofAnfieldRd (U18971)
posted 2 minutes ago
"This self righteous individual will pretend he knows everything about the secretive Russian but in reality knows as much about him as I know about Bee Keeping!"
https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/business/2022/mar/10/shares-in-evraz-steel-firm-part-owned-by-roman-abramovich-suspended
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That was two years ago and everyone knows Evraz is RA's company - not sure what your point is here!
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Ah right so Arsenal way back in the early 20th century something something, but dismiss Roman owning a factory supplying materials for tanks used in an illegal war two years ago.
Cool
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Did you think the Iraq war was an illegal war?
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Yes
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Then by your logic, shouldn't British Steel be sanctioned for selling steel to the British Government for making Challenger Tanks?
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Which football club did British Steel own?
The whataboutery is real
comment by BrummieBlue! (U3487)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by FieldsofAnfieldRd (U18971)
posted 6 minutes ago
Brummie
Do you not think Russia's invasion of Ukraine is illegal?
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Absolutely 100% it is!
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Probably not best having the guy supplying materials for tanks in that illegal war owning a football club then yeah?
He made his wealth off the back of being friendly with Putin. He's obviously still pally enough to be involved in the prisoner swap. Let's not forget this is the same Russia that poisoned people, on orders from Putin, on UK soil so blatantly they didn't give a shiite when their operatives were identified.
But let's have the mate of this guy own a football club
comment by FieldsofAnfieldRd (U18971)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by BrummieBlue! (U3487)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by FieldsofAnfieldRd (U18971)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by BrummieBlue! (U3487)
posted 15 seconds ago
comment by FieldsofAnfieldRd (U18971)
posted 9 minutes ago
comment by BrummieBlue! (U3487)
posted 23 seconds ago
comment by FieldsofAnfieldRd (U18971)
posted 2 minutes ago
"This self righteous individual will pretend he knows everything about the secretive Russian but in reality knows as much about him as I know about Bee Keeping!"
https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/business/2022/mar/10/shares-in-evraz-steel-firm-part-owned-by-roman-abramovich-suspended
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That was two years ago and everyone knows Evraz is RA's company - not sure what your point is here!
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Ah right so Arsenal way back in the early 20th century something something, but dismiss Roman owning a factory supplying materials for tanks used in an illegal war two years ago.
Cool
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Did you think the Iraq war was an illegal war?
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Yes
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Then by your logic, shouldn't British Steel be sanctioned for selling steel to the British Government for making Challenger Tanks?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Which football club did British Steel own?
The whataboutery is real
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We're past football now, you've bought up Evraz supplying the Russian Government for what we both believe is an illegal war and from you're link you've bought up the fact that they have been sanctioned.
Given that you believe the Iraq war was an illegal war, we have a direct parallel with British Steel supplying the UK government to make British Tanks.
I'll ask you direct - should British Steel be sanctioned?
Brummie
"We're past football now"
No we're not
Mate stop clinging to this. I don't agree with who we (The UK) selectively decide to arm in the world. The British gov obviously disagrees so would never apply sanctions. Who do you think should be sanctioning British Steel?
By your logic were ignoring Romans ownership of Evraz but should sanction British Steel for something 30 years ago
comment by BrummieBlue! (U3487)
posted 1 hour, 13 minutes ago
comment by FieldsofAnfieldRd (U18971)
posted 4 minutes ago
"whilst overlooking the fact their very own club owe their existence to seedy shenanigans and dodgy external money!"
Which clubs?
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Arsenal
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You absolute idiot
comment by BrummieBlue! (U3487)
posted 23 minutes ago
comment by FieldsofAnfieldRd (U18971)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by BrummieBlue! (U3487)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by FieldsofAnfieldRd (U18971)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by BrummieBlue! (U3487)
posted 15 seconds ago
comment by FieldsofAnfieldRd (U18971)
posted 9 minutes ago
comment by BrummieBlue! (U3487)
posted 23 seconds ago
comment by FieldsofAnfieldRd (U18971)
posted 2 minutes ago
"This self righteous individual will pretend he knows everything about the secretive Russian but in reality knows as much about him as I know about Bee Keeping!"
https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/business/2022/mar/10/shares-in-evraz-steel-firm-part-owned-by-roman-abramovich-suspended
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That was two years ago and everyone knows Evraz is RA's company - not sure what your point is here!
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Ah right so Arsenal way back in the early 20th century something something, but dismiss Roman owning a factory supplying materials for tanks used in an illegal war two years ago.
Cool
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Did you think the Iraq war was an illegal war?
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Yes
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Then by your logic, shouldn't British Steel be sanctioned for selling steel to the British Government for making Challenger Tanks?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Which football club did British Steel own?
The whataboutery is real
----------------------------------------------------------------------
We're past football now, you've bought up Evraz supplying the Russian Government for what we both believe is an illegal war and from you're link you've bought up the fact that they have been sanctioned.
Given that you believe the Iraq war was an illegal war, we have a direct parallel with British Steel supplying the UK government to make British Tanks.
I'll ask you direct - should British Steel be sanctioned?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Apologies, I should've wait until I'd read this comment.
Your funniest one yet!
Probably not best having the guy supplying materials for tanks in that illegal war owning a football club then yeah?
He made his wealth off the back of being friendly with Putin. He's obviously still pally enough to be involved in the prisoner swap. Let's not forget this is the same Russia that poisoned people, on orders from Putin, on UK soil so blatantly they didn't give a shiite when their operatives were identified.
But let's have the mate of this guy own a football club
Brum is ignoring this whilst hiding behind whataboutery and the events in the early 20th century or 30 years ago. But we should forget Roman owning Evraz two years ago apparently
Funny thing is, Chelsea were one of the main beneficiaries of the (reported, but not documented) dodgy dealings of Henry Norris.
Apparently BrummieBlue only reads the headlines though.
https://www.fourfourtwo.com/features/henry-norris-arsenal-tottenham-woolwich-highbury
There you go, Brummie.
Can't promise it will help with what you know about bee-keeping, but it will certainly expand your football knowledge.
The last Iraq war, which was deemed illegal, was only 21 years ago but the timeline is irrelevant and has no bearing on the principle.
For the record I don't believe British Steel should have been sanctioned any more than I do Evraz. They're both private companies and both in business to make money, why would it be anymore unusual Evraz selling their produce to the Russian Government than BS selling to the UK Government?
Unless you think that there was a converasation between RA and VP that went along the lines of:
VP: Hey Roman, I'm thinking of invading Ukraine and need to build more tanks to do the job, can you give me a good discount on some Steel?
RA: Hi, Vladimir, what a worthy cause, I'll happily give you a 50% discount because those pesky Ukrainians deserve to have their asses kicked for having the temerity to want to join NATO!
Bottom line is, I don't believe a private company should be sanctioned for how one of their customers uses their goods.
Good to see that hypocrisy is still ruling the boards of JA606 though!
comment by Lexington 125.2 (U8879)
posted 8 minutes ago
https://www.fourfourtwo.com/features/henry-norris-arsenal-tottenham-woolwich-highbury
There you go, Brummie.
Can't promise it will help with what you know about bee-keeping, but it will certainly expand your football knowledge.
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You're nothing more than a hypocritical clown to me.
Accept what you don't like if it suits, but demean others for less!
Was Henry Norris an international war criminal? Where's the hypocrisy?
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posted on 3/8/24
"This self righteous individual will pretend he knows everything about the secretive Russian but in reality knows as much about him as I know about Bee Keeping!"
https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/business/2022/mar/10/shares-in-evraz-steel-firm-part-owned-by-roman-abramovich-suspended
posted on 3/8/24
comment by BrummieBlue! (U3487)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by FieldsofAnfieldRd (U18971)
posted 4 minutes ago
"whilst overlooking the fact their very own club owe their existence to seedy shenanigans and dodgy external money!"
Which clubs?
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Arsenal
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Ah right you're going back that far. Come on now Brummie you can do better.
posted on 3/8/24
comment by FieldsofAnfieldRd (U18971)
posted 2 minutes ago
"This self righteous individual will pretend he knows everything about the secretive Russian but in reality knows as much about him as I know about Bee Keeping!"
https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/business/2022/mar/10/shares-in-evraz-steel-firm-part-owned-by-roman-abramovich-suspended
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That was two years ago and everyone knows Evraz is RA's company - not sure what your point is here!
posted on 3/8/24
But you went back over 100 years to point score with an Arsenal fan?
posted on 3/8/24
comment by FieldsofAnfieldRd (U18971)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by BrummieBlue! (U3487)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by FieldsofAnfieldRd (U18971)
posted 4 minutes ago
"whilst overlooking the fact their very own club owe their existence to seedy shenanigans and dodgy external money!"
Which clubs?
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Arsenal
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Ah right you're going back that far. Come on now Brummie you can do better.
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It's a fact though - modern day Arsenal wouldn't exist without that part of their history, at least not in their current guise!
Nothing more than an early day MK Dons!
posted on 3/8/24
comment by BrummieBlue! (U3487)
posted 23 seconds ago
comment by FieldsofAnfieldRd (U18971)
posted 2 minutes ago
"This self righteous individual will pretend he knows everything about the secretive Russian but in reality knows as much about him as I know about Bee Keeping!"
https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/business/2022/mar/10/shares-in-evraz-steel-firm-part-owned-by-roman-abramovich-suspended
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That was two years ago and everyone knows Evraz is RA's company - not sure what your point is here!
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Ah right so Arsenal way back in the early 20th century something something, but dismiss Roman owning a factory supplying materials for tanks used in an illegal war two years ago.
Cool
posted on 3/8/24
not sure what your point is here!
===
How does that sand taste Brummie? Hopefully not laced with the blood of all the bodies that were buried to cover up Abramovich's crimes!
posted on 3/8/24
comment by FieldsofAnfieldRd (U18971)
posted 9 minutes ago
comment by BrummieBlue! (U3487)
posted 23 seconds ago
comment by FieldsofAnfieldRd (U18971)
posted 2 minutes ago
"This self righteous individual will pretend he knows everything about the secretive Russian but in reality knows as much about him as I know about Bee Keeping!"
https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/business/2022/mar/10/shares-in-evraz-steel-firm-part-owned-by-roman-abramovich-suspended
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That was two years ago and everyone knows Evraz is RA's company - not sure what your point is here!
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Ah right so Arsenal way back in the early 20th century something something, but dismiss Roman owning a factory supplying materials for tanks used in an illegal war two years ago.
Cool
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Did you think the Iraq war was an illegal war?
posted on 3/8/24
comment by Tu Meke (U3732)
posted 4 minutes ago
not sure what your point is here!
===
How does that sand taste Brummie? Hopefully not laced with the blood of all the bodies that were buried to cover up Abramovich's crimes!
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I'll await with eager anticipation your proof!
You're nothing more than a hypocrit!
posted on 3/8/24
comment by BrummieBlue! (U3487)
posted 15 seconds ago
comment by FieldsofAnfieldRd (U18971)
posted 9 minutes ago
comment by BrummieBlue! (U3487)
posted 23 seconds ago
comment by FieldsofAnfieldRd (U18971)
posted 2 minutes ago
"This self righteous individual will pretend he knows everything about the secretive Russian but in reality knows as much about him as I know about Bee Keeping!"
https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/business/2022/mar/10/shares-in-evraz-steel-firm-part-owned-by-roman-abramovich-suspended
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That was two years ago and everyone knows Evraz is RA's company - not sure what your point is here!
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Ah right so Arsenal way back in the early 20th century something something, but dismiss Roman owning a factory supplying materials for tanks used in an illegal war two years ago.
Cool
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Did you think the Iraq war was an illegal war?
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Yes
posted on 3/8/24
Brummie
Do you not think Russia's invasion of Ukraine is illegal?
posted on 3/8/24
comment by FieldsofAnfieldRd (U18971)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by BrummieBlue! (U3487)
posted 15 seconds ago
comment by FieldsofAnfieldRd (U18971)
posted 9 minutes ago
comment by BrummieBlue! (U3487)
posted 23 seconds ago
comment by FieldsofAnfieldRd (U18971)
posted 2 minutes ago
"This self righteous individual will pretend he knows everything about the secretive Russian but in reality knows as much about him as I know about Bee Keeping!"
https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/business/2022/mar/10/shares-in-evraz-steel-firm-part-owned-by-roman-abramovich-suspended
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That was two years ago and everyone knows Evraz is RA's company - not sure what your point is here!
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Ah right so Arsenal way back in the early 20th century something something, but dismiss Roman owning a factory supplying materials for tanks used in an illegal war two years ago.
Cool
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Did you think the Iraq war was an illegal war?
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Yes
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Then by your logic, shouldn't British Steel be sanctioned for selling steel to the British Government for making Challenger Tanks?
posted on 3/8/24
comment by FieldsofAnfieldRd (U18971)
posted 6 minutes ago
Brummie
Do you not think Russia's invasion of Ukraine is illegal?
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Absolutely 100% it is!
posted on 3/8/24
comment by BrummieBlue! (U3487)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by FieldsofAnfieldRd (U18971)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by BrummieBlue! (U3487)
posted 15 seconds ago
comment by FieldsofAnfieldRd (U18971)
posted 9 minutes ago
comment by BrummieBlue! (U3487)
posted 23 seconds ago
comment by FieldsofAnfieldRd (U18971)
posted 2 minutes ago
"This self righteous individual will pretend he knows everything about the secretive Russian but in reality knows as much about him as I know about Bee Keeping!"
https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/business/2022/mar/10/shares-in-evraz-steel-firm-part-owned-by-roman-abramovich-suspended
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That was two years ago and everyone knows Evraz is RA's company - not sure what your point is here!
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Ah right so Arsenal way back in the early 20th century something something, but dismiss Roman owning a factory supplying materials for tanks used in an illegal war two years ago.
Cool
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Did you think the Iraq war was an illegal war?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Yes
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Then by your logic, shouldn't British Steel be sanctioned for selling steel to the British Government for making Challenger Tanks?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Which football club did British Steel own?
The whataboutery is real
posted on 3/8/24
comment by BrummieBlue! (U3487)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by FieldsofAnfieldRd (U18971)
posted 6 minutes ago
Brummie
Do you not think Russia's invasion of Ukraine is illegal?
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Absolutely 100% it is!
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Probably not best having the guy supplying materials for tanks in that illegal war owning a football club then yeah?
He made his wealth off the back of being friendly with Putin. He's obviously still pally enough to be involved in the prisoner swap. Let's not forget this is the same Russia that poisoned people, on orders from Putin, on UK soil so blatantly they didn't give a shiite when their operatives were identified.
But let's have the mate of this guy own a football club
posted on 3/8/24
comment by FieldsofAnfieldRd (U18971)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by BrummieBlue! (U3487)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by FieldsofAnfieldRd (U18971)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by BrummieBlue! (U3487)
posted 15 seconds ago
comment by FieldsofAnfieldRd (U18971)
posted 9 minutes ago
comment by BrummieBlue! (U3487)
posted 23 seconds ago
comment by FieldsofAnfieldRd (U18971)
posted 2 minutes ago
"This self righteous individual will pretend he knows everything about the secretive Russian but in reality knows as much about him as I know about Bee Keeping!"
https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/business/2022/mar/10/shares-in-evraz-steel-firm-part-owned-by-roman-abramovich-suspended
----------------------------------------------------------------------
That was two years ago and everyone knows Evraz is RA's company - not sure what your point is here!
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Ah right so Arsenal way back in the early 20th century something something, but dismiss Roman owning a factory supplying materials for tanks used in an illegal war two years ago.
Cool
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Did you think the Iraq war was an illegal war?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Yes
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Then by your logic, shouldn't British Steel be sanctioned for selling steel to the British Government for making Challenger Tanks?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Which football club did British Steel own?
The whataboutery is real
----------------------------------------------------------------------
We're past football now, you've bought up Evraz supplying the Russian Government for what we both believe is an illegal war and from you're link you've bought up the fact that they have been sanctioned.
Given that you believe the Iraq war was an illegal war, we have a direct parallel with British Steel supplying the UK government to make British Tanks.
I'll ask you direct - should British Steel be sanctioned?
posted on 3/8/24
Brummie
"We're past football now"
No we're not
Mate stop clinging to this. I don't agree with who we (The UK) selectively decide to arm in the world. The British gov obviously disagrees so would never apply sanctions. Who do you think should be sanctioning British Steel?
By your logic were ignoring Romans ownership of Evraz but should sanction British Steel for something 30 years ago
posted on 3/8/24
comment by BrummieBlue! (U3487)
posted 1 hour, 13 minutes ago
comment by FieldsofAnfieldRd (U18971)
posted 4 minutes ago
"whilst overlooking the fact their very own club owe their existence to seedy shenanigans and dodgy external money!"
Which clubs?
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Arsenal
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You absolute idiot
posted on 3/8/24
comment by BrummieBlue! (U3487)
posted 23 minutes ago
comment by FieldsofAnfieldRd (U18971)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by BrummieBlue! (U3487)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by FieldsofAnfieldRd (U18971)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by BrummieBlue! (U3487)
posted 15 seconds ago
comment by FieldsofAnfieldRd (U18971)
posted 9 minutes ago
comment by BrummieBlue! (U3487)
posted 23 seconds ago
comment by FieldsofAnfieldRd (U18971)
posted 2 minutes ago
"This self righteous individual will pretend he knows everything about the secretive Russian but in reality knows as much about him as I know about Bee Keeping!"
https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/business/2022/mar/10/shares-in-evraz-steel-firm-part-owned-by-roman-abramovich-suspended
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That was two years ago and everyone knows Evraz is RA's company - not sure what your point is here!
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Ah right so Arsenal way back in the early 20th century something something, but dismiss Roman owning a factory supplying materials for tanks used in an illegal war two years ago.
Cool
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Did you think the Iraq war was an illegal war?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Yes
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Then by your logic, shouldn't British Steel be sanctioned for selling steel to the British Government for making Challenger Tanks?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Which football club did British Steel own?
The whataboutery is real
----------------------------------------------------------------------
We're past football now, you've bought up Evraz supplying the Russian Government for what we both believe is an illegal war and from you're link you've bought up the fact that they have been sanctioned.
Given that you believe the Iraq war was an illegal war, we have a direct parallel with British Steel supplying the UK government to make British Tanks.
I'll ask you direct - should British Steel be sanctioned?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Apologies, I should've wait until I'd read this comment.
Your funniest one yet!
posted on 3/8/24
Probably not best having the guy supplying materials for tanks in that illegal war owning a football club then yeah?
He made his wealth off the back of being friendly with Putin. He's obviously still pally enough to be involved in the prisoner swap. Let's not forget this is the same Russia that poisoned people, on orders from Putin, on UK soil so blatantly they didn't give a shiite when their operatives were identified.
But let's have the mate of this guy own a football club
Brum is ignoring this whilst hiding behind whataboutery and the events in the early 20th century or 30 years ago. But we should forget Roman owning Evraz two years ago apparently
posted on 3/8/24
Funny thing is, Chelsea were one of the main beneficiaries of the (reported, but not documented) dodgy dealings of Henry Norris.
Apparently BrummieBlue only reads the headlines though.
posted on 3/8/24
https://www.fourfourtwo.com/features/henry-norris-arsenal-tottenham-woolwich-highbury
There you go, Brummie.
Can't promise it will help with what you know about bee-keeping, but it will certainly expand your football knowledge.
posted on 3/8/24
The last Iraq war, which was deemed illegal, was only 21 years ago but the timeline is irrelevant and has no bearing on the principle.
For the record I don't believe British Steel should have been sanctioned any more than I do Evraz. They're both private companies and both in business to make money, why would it be anymore unusual Evraz selling their produce to the Russian Government than BS selling to the UK Government?
Unless you think that there was a converasation between RA and VP that went along the lines of:
VP: Hey Roman, I'm thinking of invading Ukraine and need to build more tanks to do the job, can you give me a good discount on some Steel?
RA: Hi, Vladimir, what a worthy cause, I'll happily give you a 50% discount because those pesky Ukrainians deserve to have their asses kicked for having the temerity to want to join NATO!
Bottom line is, I don't believe a private company should be sanctioned for how one of their customers uses their goods.
Good to see that hypocrisy is still ruling the boards of JA606 though!
posted on 3/8/24
comment by Lexington 125.2 (U8879)
posted 8 minutes ago
https://www.fourfourtwo.com/features/henry-norris-arsenal-tottenham-woolwich-highbury
There you go, Brummie.
Can't promise it will help with what you know about bee-keeping, but it will certainly expand your football knowledge.
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You're nothing more than a hypocritical clown to me.
Accept what you don't like if it suits, but demean others for less!
posted on 3/8/24
Was Henry Norris an international war criminal? Where's the hypocrisy?
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