The charges are totally ridiculous. Why are we stifling people's/team's potential by putting restrictions on how much they can spend? If a team and their owners have worked hard and willing to spend their hard earned money, who are we to say they can't? No doubt the far left Labour government has pushed this as the timing is too coincidental.
The state are trying to stifle anyone who wants to be a success in life and push the bar higher.
We will fall behind the rest of Europe if the PL don't lift the financial restrictions and let our teams reach their full potential.
Stop trying to cancel the rich and successful
OP don't get too excited. At the end of the day the PL cares about nothing more than money. Even if they find them guilty of all 100+ offences, don't expect a huge punishment as that would hurt their own bottom line massively.
I expect some kind of deal to be done behind closed doors with NDA's in place and a 5-10 point deduction with a very stern "dont do this again you naughty naughty boys!"
I agree about not getting too excited. The PL have probably just found a way to just give them a slap on the wrist.
comment by UmaThurmans_BigToe (U22864)
posted 5 minutes ago
OP don't get too excited. At the end of the day the PL cares about nothing more than money. Even if they find them guilty of all 100+ offences, don't expect a huge punishment as that would hurt their own bottom line massively.
I expect some kind of deal to be done behind closed doors with NDA's in place and a 5-10 point deduction with a very stern "dont do this again you naughty naughty boys!"
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I don't agree with this take.
If the PL find them guilty then the reputation and integrity of their product is on the line. In the long term it would be far more financially damaging to the PL to let City off with fines and slapped wrists than banishing them from the league.
The PL flourished before City bought their success so we need not worry about its appeal without them. It would taint ongoing seasons if a guilty City were allowed to participate.
It's all pure guesswork - no-one really know what will happen. And whatever the outcome, some will say it's too harsh, others that it doesn't gone far enough.
I can't lie, it's gone on that long, I wouldn't say I don't care about the outcome, but it's going to feel unsatisfactory quite simply because it has taken so long.
None of us really know the full facts, I couldn't even tell you what I think a fair outcome would be..............
“Huge huge play from the Premier League this and I fully applaud them. Bringing it forward so quickly will no doubt rattle and scare City, as it's basically the EPL telling them 'we have the evidence, we know you're guilty and we're now ready to prove it, so now more delays: lets go'.“
That paragraph makes no sense. The date for the hearing is set by the independent commission.
comment by kinsang (U3346)
posted 5 minutes ago
It's all pure guesswork - no-one really know what will happen. And whatever the outcome, some will say it's too harsh, others that it doesn't gone far enough.
I can't lie, it's gone on that long, I wouldn't say I don't care about the outcome, but it's going to feel unsatisfactory quite simply because it has taken so long.
None of us really know the full facts, I couldn't even tell you what I think a fair outcome would be..............
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Pretty much this for me as well I get some folk are very annoyed/upset at what City have or have not done and want punishment if they have but for me, and I appreciate it might only be me I don't really have an interest one way or the other?
Sure it will take a while anyway and I for the most part know VERY little about it at all
comment by Insufferable-Piffle (U4388)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by kinsang (U3346)
posted 5 minutes ago
It's all pure guesswork - no-one really know what will happen. And whatever the outcome, some will say it's too harsh, others that it doesn't gone far enough.
I can't lie, it's gone on that long, I wouldn't say I don't care about the outcome, but it's going to feel unsatisfactory quite simply because it has taken so long.
None of us really know the full facts, I couldn't even tell you what I think a fair outcome would be..............
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Pretty much this for me as wellI get some folk are very annoyed/upset at what City have or have not done and want punishment if they have but for me, and I appreciate it might only be me I don't really have an interest one way or the other?
Sure it will take a while anyway and I for the most part know VERY little about it at all
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I hear you - I mean if it was full-scale bribery and 'total fraud' then I may be more interested, but the financial rules they appear to have broken don't get my juices flowing. And honestly, as much as it pains me, it doesn't really take away how dominant they have been on the pitch.
That's just my view and I accept others will be more riled by it all.
But no-one has any real insider knowledge - just what they read on various social media etc
Kinsang, indeed, if there is proven major issues then I would accept and want a suitable punishment given, what that would be I also have no idea about though
comment by meltonblue (U10617)
posted 55 minutes ago
“Huge huge play from the Premier League this and I fully applaud them. Bringing it forward so quickly will no doubt rattle and scare City, as it's basically the EPL telling them 'we have the evidence, we know you're guilty and we're now ready to prove it, so now more delays: lets go'.“
That paragraph makes no sense. The date for the hearing is set by the independent commission.
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please don't let the facts get in the way of a good venting session.
Some of them will express surprise that it will be a closed door hearing next
comment by John McGlashan (U1734)
posted 1 hour, 25 minutes ago
The charges are totally ridiculous. Why are we stifling people's/team's potential by putting restrictions on how much they can spend? If a team and their owners have worked hard and willing to spend their hard earned money, who are we to say they can't?
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That's fair
comment by kinsang (U3346)
posted 46 minutes ago
comment by Insufferable-Piffle (U4388)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by kinsang (U3346)
posted 5 minutes ago
It's all pure guesswork - no-one really know what will happen. And whatever the outcome, some will say it's too harsh, others that it doesn't gone far enough.
I can't lie, it's gone on that long, I wouldn't say I don't care about the outcome, but it's going to feel unsatisfactory quite simply because it has taken so long.
None of us really know the full facts, I couldn't even tell you what I think a fair outcome would be..............
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Pretty much this for me as wellI get some folk are very annoyed/upset at what City have or have not done and want punishment if they have but for me, and I appreciate it might only be me I don't really have an interest one way or the other?
Sure it will take a while anyway and I for the most part know VERY little about it at all
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I hear you - I mean if it was full-scale bribery and 'total fraud' then I may be more interested, but the financial rules they appear to have broken don't get my juices flowing. And honestly, as much as it pains me, it doesn't really take away how dominant they have been on the pitch.
That's just my view and I accept others will be more riled by it all.
But no-one has any real insider knowledge - just what they read on various social media etc
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I think that is the point though.....breaches, like we have seen from Forest and Everton are pretty dull, but they have admitted them and taken their punishment.
City are accused of breaking the same rules but through reporting inaccurate financial information and refusing to admit it.....so this is far more of a fraud accusation.
If proven it could have implications beyond the football authorities.
When they're found guilty and all titles/trophies stripped off of them, I will laugh very hard.
4 in a row GONE
Treble winners GONE
AgueeerroooooOOOOOoooooo GONE
Bliss
comment by kinsang (U3346)
posted 1 hour, 23 minutes ago
comment by Insufferable-Piffle (U4388)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by kinsang (U3346)
posted 5 minutes ago
It's all pure guesswork - no-one really know what will happen. And whatever the outcome, some will say it's too harsh, others that it doesn't gone far enough.
I can't lie, it's gone on that long, I wouldn't say I don't care about the outcome, but it's going to feel unsatisfactory quite simply because it has taken so long.
None of us really know the full facts, I couldn't even tell you what I think a fair outcome would be..............
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Pretty much this for me as wellI get some folk are very annoyed/upset at what City have or have not done and want punishment if they have but for me, and I appreciate it might only be me I don't really have an interest one way or the other?
Sure it will take a while anyway and I for the most part know VERY little about it at all
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I hear you - I mean if it was full-scale bribery and 'total fraud' then I may be more interested, but the financial rules they appear to have broken don't get my juices flowing. And honestly, as much as it pains me, it doesn't really take away how dominant they have been on the pitch.
That's just my view and I accept others will be more riled by it all.
But no-one has any real insider knowledge - just what they read on various social media etc
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They are clearly, clearly guilty. 115 charges is too many for them to be innocent.
Think about if your neighbour was charged with 115 counts of viewing child pourrrn ffs. Would you really think 'well he's innocent until proven guilty, so let's invite him round for a BBQ' ???
The scale of the cheating is so huge that if found guilty the punishment will have to be the most severe any club has faced.
Titles stripped, minimum 1 relegation and a points deduction.
comment by HB Fash (U21935)
posted 38 seconds ago
The scale of the cheating is so huge that if found guilty the punishment will have to be the most severe any club has faced.
Titles stripped, minimum 1 relegation and a points deduction.
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They could go down to League 1 or League 2 I reckon.
proving it in law will be the difficult part.
CAS had regard to the leaked emails but that alone was not proof enough that City actioned what was stated within the emails.
Not sure the PL have sufficient powers to gather the "smoking gun" evidence they need to prove how the intent was acted upon. Unless there is more leaked evidence or witness statements in which case they'd have to disclose this to the other side.
It's a shame its all behind closed doors. It would be fascinating to see what the PL have and how City defend themselves.
My gut feel is that the PL had to go through this process. The process has to be robust, whether or not they have more evidence or not than previously aired by UEFA/CAS.
It could not be ignored or swept under the carpet with the threat of independent regulation looming over the PL, and nor could any of the PSR/FFP breaches by other clubs, these rules have been in place for years but are only now being enforced.
I hold little hope that City will be found guilty, not because I believe them to be innocent but because the charges will be very difficult to prove. The fact City could have made this all go away a long time ago by being totally open book on all the charges, but have chosen to be obstructive and fight it through legal processes says it all for me.
I'm sure they are guilty of something financial,but don't know what, or care about. They should get the correct punishment.
Regarding Pep and the team, they have my admiration, plenty have tried to buy success, eg PSG.
It's not easy, but they've done it.
comment by Democracy & Debate Trumps Hate (U9489)
posted 55 minutes ago
comment by kinsang (U3346)
posted 1 hour, 23 minutes ago
comment by Insufferable-Piffle (U4388)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by kinsang (U3346)
posted 5 minutes ago
It's all pure guesswork - no-one really know what will happen. And whatever the outcome, some will say it's too harsh, others that it doesn't gone far enough.
I can't lie, it's gone on that long, I wouldn't say I don't care about the outcome, but it's going to feel unsatisfactory quite simply because it has taken so long.
None of us really know the full facts, I couldn't even tell you what I think a fair outcome would be..............
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Pretty much this for me as wellI get some folk are very annoyed/upset at what City have or have not done and want punishment if they have but for me, and I appreciate it might only be me I don't really have an interest one way or the other?
Sure it will take a while anyway and I for the most part know VERY little about it at all
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I hear you - I mean if it was full-scale bribery and 'total fraud' then I may be more interested, but the financial rules they appear to have broken don't get my juices flowing. And honestly, as much as it pains me, it doesn't really take away how dominant they have been on the pitch.
That's just my view and I accept others will be more riled by it all.
But no-one has any real insider knowledge - just what they read on various social media etc
----------------------------------------------------------------------
They are clearly, clearly guilty. 115 charges is too many for them to be innocent.
Think about if your neighbour was charged with 115 counts of viewing child pourrrn ffs. Would you really think 'well he's innocent until proven guilty, so let's invite him round for a BBQ' ???
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I appreciate what you are saying, but I don't know what those individual 115 charges are and at what end of the breach scale it is at. Neither do you. They could be innocent of all, guilty of all, or somewhere in between. But it honestly doesn't interest me that much, and it doesn't take away for me, what was done on the field or Pep as a coach.
Do I think they should be fairly punished? Yes, but as I said before, i don't even know what that would be.
And comparing it to sexual offence charges doesn't really help as an example - remember Paul Gambaccini or Kevin Spacey? It's about what can be proved at the end of the day.
comment by John McGlashan (U1734)
posted 3 hours, 17 minutes ago
The charges are totally ridiculous. Why are we stifling people's/team's potential by putting restrictions on how much they can spend? If a team and their owners have worked hard and willing to spend their hard earned money, who are we to say they can't? No doubt the far left Labour government has pushed this as the timing is too coincidental.
The state are trying to stifle anyone who wants to be a success in life and push the bar higher.
We will fall behind the rest of Europe if the PL don't lift the financial restrictions and let our teams reach their full potential.
Stop trying to cancel the rich and successful
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Well this is a complete load of nonsense, considering the PL is already the richest league in the world with the majority of teams playing by the rules.
comment by manusince52 (U9692)
posted 31 minutes ago
I'm sure they are guilty of something financial,but don't know what, or care about.
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That's a huge spectrum of emotions to have in one sentence. You must be exhausted.
We need to be careful for what we wish for here. If City are stripped of titles going back over a decade then that Gerrard slip won't be as funny.
Been told a few times now the intention is to send them to league 1
City are pathetic. They truly, truly are.
The club with nothing to hide want to move the goalposts again:
https://www.skysports.com/football/news/11679/13196467/man-citys-115-charges-decision-unlikely-to-be-made-public-before-spring-after-hearing-brought-forward
Relegate them now
comment by manusince52 (U9692)
posted 5 hours, 39 minutes ago
I'm sure they are guilty of something financial,but don't know what, or care about. They should get the correct punishment.
Regarding Pep and the team, they have my admiration, plenty have tried to buy success, eg PSG.
It's not easy, but they've done it.
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posted on 13/8/24
The charges are totally ridiculous. Why are we stifling people's/team's potential by putting restrictions on how much they can spend? If a team and their owners have worked hard and willing to spend their hard earned money, who are we to say they can't? No doubt the far left Labour government has pushed this as the timing is too coincidental.
The state are trying to stifle anyone who wants to be a success in life and push the bar higher.
We will fall behind the rest of Europe if the PL don't lift the financial restrictions and let our teams reach their full potential.
Stop trying to cancel the rich and successful
posted on 13/8/24
OP don't get too excited. At the end of the day the PL cares about nothing more than money. Even if they find them guilty of all 100+ offences, don't expect a huge punishment as that would hurt their own bottom line massively.
I expect some kind of deal to be done behind closed doors with NDA's in place and a 5-10 point deduction with a very stern "dont do this again you naughty naughty boys!"
posted on 13/8/24
I agree about not getting too excited. The PL have probably just found a way to just give them a slap on the wrist.
posted on 13/8/24
comment by UmaThurmans_BigToe (U22864)
posted 5 minutes ago
OP don't get too excited. At the end of the day the PL cares about nothing more than money. Even if they find them guilty of all 100+ offences, don't expect a huge punishment as that would hurt their own bottom line massively.
I expect some kind of deal to be done behind closed doors with NDA's in place and a 5-10 point deduction with a very stern "dont do this again you naughty naughty boys!"
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I don't agree with this take.
If the PL find them guilty then the reputation and integrity of their product is on the line. In the long term it would be far more financially damaging to the PL to let City off with fines and slapped wrists than banishing them from the league.
The PL flourished before City bought their success so we need not worry about its appeal without them. It would taint ongoing seasons if a guilty City were allowed to participate.
posted on 13/8/24
It's all pure guesswork - no-one really know what will happen. And whatever the outcome, some will say it's too harsh, others that it doesn't gone far enough.
I can't lie, it's gone on that long, I wouldn't say I don't care about the outcome, but it's going to feel unsatisfactory quite simply because it has taken so long.
None of us really know the full facts, I couldn't even tell you what I think a fair outcome would be..............
posted on 13/8/24
“Huge huge play from the Premier League this and I fully applaud them. Bringing it forward so quickly will no doubt rattle and scare City, as it's basically the EPL telling them 'we have the evidence, we know you're guilty and we're now ready to prove it, so now more delays: lets go'.“
That paragraph makes no sense. The date for the hearing is set by the independent commission.
posted on 13/8/24
comment by kinsang (U3346)
posted 5 minutes ago
It's all pure guesswork - no-one really know what will happen. And whatever the outcome, some will say it's too harsh, others that it doesn't gone far enough.
I can't lie, it's gone on that long, I wouldn't say I don't care about the outcome, but it's going to feel unsatisfactory quite simply because it has taken so long.
None of us really know the full facts, I couldn't even tell you what I think a fair outcome would be..............
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Pretty much this for me as well I get some folk are very annoyed/upset at what City have or have not done and want punishment if they have but for me, and I appreciate it might only be me I don't really have an interest one way or the other?
Sure it will take a while anyway and I for the most part know VERY little about it at all
posted on 13/8/24
comment by Insufferable-Piffle (U4388)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by kinsang (U3346)
posted 5 minutes ago
It's all pure guesswork - no-one really know what will happen. And whatever the outcome, some will say it's too harsh, others that it doesn't gone far enough.
I can't lie, it's gone on that long, I wouldn't say I don't care about the outcome, but it's going to feel unsatisfactory quite simply because it has taken so long.
None of us really know the full facts, I couldn't even tell you what I think a fair outcome would be..............
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Pretty much this for me as wellI get some folk are very annoyed/upset at what City have or have not done and want punishment if they have but for me, and I appreciate it might only be me I don't really have an interest one way or the other?
Sure it will take a while anyway and I for the most part know VERY little about it at all
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I hear you - I mean if it was full-scale bribery and 'total fraud' then I may be more interested, but the financial rules they appear to have broken don't get my juices flowing. And honestly, as much as it pains me, it doesn't really take away how dominant they have been on the pitch.
That's just my view and I accept others will be more riled by it all.
But no-one has any real insider knowledge - just what they read on various social media etc
posted on 13/8/24
Kinsang, indeed, if there is proven major issues then I would accept and want a suitable punishment given, what that would be I also have no idea about though
posted on 13/8/24
comment by meltonblue (U10617)
posted 55 minutes ago
“Huge huge play from the Premier League this and I fully applaud them. Bringing it forward so quickly will no doubt rattle and scare City, as it's basically the EPL telling them 'we have the evidence, we know you're guilty and we're now ready to prove it, so now more delays: lets go'.“
That paragraph makes no sense. The date for the hearing is set by the independent commission.
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🤫
please don't let the facts get in the way of a good venting session.
Some of them will express surprise that it will be a closed door hearing next
posted on 13/8/24
comment by John McGlashan (U1734)
posted 1 hour, 25 minutes ago
The charges are totally ridiculous. Why are we stifling people's/team's potential by putting restrictions on how much they can spend? If a team and their owners have worked hard and willing to spend their hard earned money, who are we to say they can't?
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That's fair
posted on 13/8/24
comment by kinsang (U3346)
posted 46 minutes ago
comment by Insufferable-Piffle (U4388)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by kinsang (U3346)
posted 5 minutes ago
It's all pure guesswork - no-one really know what will happen. And whatever the outcome, some will say it's too harsh, others that it doesn't gone far enough.
I can't lie, it's gone on that long, I wouldn't say I don't care about the outcome, but it's going to feel unsatisfactory quite simply because it has taken so long.
None of us really know the full facts, I couldn't even tell you what I think a fair outcome would be..............
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Pretty much this for me as wellI get some folk are very annoyed/upset at what City have or have not done and want punishment if they have but for me, and I appreciate it might only be me I don't really have an interest one way or the other?
Sure it will take a while anyway and I for the most part know VERY little about it at all
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I hear you - I mean if it was full-scale bribery and 'total fraud' then I may be more interested, but the financial rules they appear to have broken don't get my juices flowing. And honestly, as much as it pains me, it doesn't really take away how dominant they have been on the pitch.
That's just my view and I accept others will be more riled by it all.
But no-one has any real insider knowledge - just what they read on various social media etc
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I think that is the point though.....breaches, like we have seen from Forest and Everton are pretty dull, but they have admitted them and taken their punishment.
City are accused of breaking the same rules but through reporting inaccurate financial information and refusing to admit it.....so this is far more of a fraud accusation.
If proven it could have implications beyond the football authorities.
posted on 13/8/24
When they're found guilty and all titles/trophies stripped off of them, I will laugh very hard.
4 in a row GONE
Treble winners GONE
AgueeerroooooOOOOOoooooo GONE
Bliss
posted on 13/8/24
comment by kinsang (U3346)
posted 1 hour, 23 minutes ago
comment by Insufferable-Piffle (U4388)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by kinsang (U3346)
posted 5 minutes ago
It's all pure guesswork - no-one really know what will happen. And whatever the outcome, some will say it's too harsh, others that it doesn't gone far enough.
I can't lie, it's gone on that long, I wouldn't say I don't care about the outcome, but it's going to feel unsatisfactory quite simply because it has taken so long.
None of us really know the full facts, I couldn't even tell you what I think a fair outcome would be..............
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Pretty much this for me as wellI get some folk are very annoyed/upset at what City have or have not done and want punishment if they have but for me, and I appreciate it might only be me I don't really have an interest one way or the other?
Sure it will take a while anyway and I for the most part know VERY little about it at all
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I hear you - I mean if it was full-scale bribery and 'total fraud' then I may be more interested, but the financial rules they appear to have broken don't get my juices flowing. And honestly, as much as it pains me, it doesn't really take away how dominant they have been on the pitch.
That's just my view and I accept others will be more riled by it all.
But no-one has any real insider knowledge - just what they read on various social media etc
----------------------------------------------------------------------
They are clearly, clearly guilty. 115 charges is too many for them to be innocent.
Think about if your neighbour was charged with 115 counts of viewing child pourrrn ffs. Would you really think 'well he's innocent until proven guilty, so let's invite him round for a BBQ' ???
posted on 13/8/24
The scale of the cheating is so huge that if found guilty the punishment will have to be the most severe any club has faced.
Titles stripped, minimum 1 relegation and a points deduction.
posted on 13/8/24
comment by HB Fash (U21935)
posted 38 seconds ago
The scale of the cheating is so huge that if found guilty the punishment will have to be the most severe any club has faced.
Titles stripped, minimum 1 relegation and a points deduction.
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They could go down to League 1 or League 2 I reckon.
posted on 13/8/24
proving it in law will be the difficult part.
CAS had regard to the leaked emails but that alone was not proof enough that City actioned what was stated within the emails.
Not sure the PL have sufficient powers to gather the "smoking gun" evidence they need to prove how the intent was acted upon. Unless there is more leaked evidence or witness statements in which case they'd have to disclose this to the other side.
It's a shame its all behind closed doors. It would be fascinating to see what the PL have and how City defend themselves.
My gut feel is that the PL had to go through this process. The process has to be robust, whether or not they have more evidence or not than previously aired by UEFA/CAS.
It could not be ignored or swept under the carpet with the threat of independent regulation looming over the PL, and nor could any of the PSR/FFP breaches by other clubs, these rules have been in place for years but are only now being enforced.
I hold little hope that City will be found guilty, not because I believe them to be innocent but because the charges will be very difficult to prove. The fact City could have made this all go away a long time ago by being totally open book on all the charges, but have chosen to be obstructive and fight it through legal processes says it all for me.
posted on 13/8/24
I'm sure they are guilty of something financial,but don't know what, or care about. They should get the correct punishment.
Regarding Pep and the team, they have my admiration, plenty have tried to buy success, eg PSG.
It's not easy, but they've done it.
posted on 13/8/24
comment by Democracy & Debate Trumps Hate (U9489)
posted 55 minutes ago
comment by kinsang (U3346)
posted 1 hour, 23 minutes ago
comment by Insufferable-Piffle (U4388)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by kinsang (U3346)
posted 5 minutes ago
It's all pure guesswork - no-one really know what will happen. And whatever the outcome, some will say it's too harsh, others that it doesn't gone far enough.
I can't lie, it's gone on that long, I wouldn't say I don't care about the outcome, but it's going to feel unsatisfactory quite simply because it has taken so long.
None of us really know the full facts, I couldn't even tell you what I think a fair outcome would be..............
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Pretty much this for me as wellI get some folk are very annoyed/upset at what City have or have not done and want punishment if they have but for me, and I appreciate it might only be me I don't really have an interest one way or the other?
Sure it will take a while anyway and I for the most part know VERY little about it at all
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I hear you - I mean if it was full-scale bribery and 'total fraud' then I may be more interested, but the financial rules they appear to have broken don't get my juices flowing. And honestly, as much as it pains me, it doesn't really take away how dominant they have been on the pitch.
That's just my view and I accept others will be more riled by it all.
But no-one has any real insider knowledge - just what they read on various social media etc
----------------------------------------------------------------------
They are clearly, clearly guilty. 115 charges is too many for them to be innocent.
Think about if your neighbour was charged with 115 counts of viewing child pourrrn ffs. Would you really think 'well he's innocent until proven guilty, so let's invite him round for a BBQ' ???
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I appreciate what you are saying, but I don't know what those individual 115 charges are and at what end of the breach scale it is at. Neither do you. They could be innocent of all, guilty of all, or somewhere in between. But it honestly doesn't interest me that much, and it doesn't take away for me, what was done on the field or Pep as a coach.
Do I think they should be fairly punished? Yes, but as I said before, i don't even know what that would be.
And comparing it to sexual offence charges doesn't really help as an example - remember Paul Gambaccini or Kevin Spacey? It's about what can be proved at the end of the day.
posted on 13/8/24
comment by John McGlashan (U1734)
posted 3 hours, 17 minutes ago
The charges are totally ridiculous. Why are we stifling people's/team's potential by putting restrictions on how much they can spend? If a team and their owners have worked hard and willing to spend their hard earned money, who are we to say they can't? No doubt the far left Labour government has pushed this as the timing is too coincidental.
The state are trying to stifle anyone who wants to be a success in life and push the bar higher.
We will fall behind the rest of Europe if the PL don't lift the financial restrictions and let our teams reach their full potential.
Stop trying to cancel the rich and successful
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Well this is a complete load of nonsense, considering the PL is already the richest league in the world with the majority of teams playing by the rules.
posted on 13/8/24
comment by manusince52 (U9692)
posted 31 minutes ago
I'm sure they are guilty of something financial,but don't know what, or care about.
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That's a huge spectrum of emotions to have in one sentence. You must be exhausted.
posted on 13/8/24
We need to be careful for what we wish for here. If City are stripped of titles going back over a decade then that Gerrard slip won't be as funny.
posted on 13/8/24
Been told a few times now the intention is to send them to league 1
posted on 13/8/24
City are pathetic. They truly, truly are.
The club with nothing to hide want to move the goalposts again:
https://www.skysports.com/football/news/11679/13196467/man-citys-115-charges-decision-unlikely-to-be-made-public-before-spring-after-hearing-brought-forward
Relegate them now
posted on 13/8/24
comment by manusince52 (U9692)
posted 5 hours, 39 minutes ago
I'm sure they are guilty of something financial,but don't know what, or care about. They should get the correct punishment.
Regarding Pep and the team, they have my admiration, plenty have tried to buy success, eg PSG.
It's not easy, but they've done it.
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The entire world know they’re guilty
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