comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 50 minutes ago
comment by Boris 'Inky’ Gibson (U5901)
posted 6 minutes ago
These 'lack of cooperation' charges really make me laugh when no one knows what questions were being asked.
Sponsorship deals involve 2 parties, maybe the directors of Nissan, Nike and other Multi National companies etc didn't want the details of deals sharing with a panel made up of influential people employed by rival clubs.
Maybe Masters think Pep is being unhelpful by not revealing his starting XI 24 hours before a game, maybe he thinks there should be a public livestream of the tactics session.
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CAS themselves ruled that City were guilty of not cooperating with the investigation and they were fined 10m.
Fact is City could have cooperated with the PL investigation fully and this would not have even come this far if their evidence/information addressed the accusations.
The fact they chose not to and would rather deal with it in a lengthy expensive legal process, where they are able to tie the PL in knots on legal technicalities says a lot.
They could have been 100% open book but are hiding behind commercial confidentiality as a reason not to share key information.
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City cooperated with CAS though, probably on the basis they were deemed an impartial body and the details would remain confidential.
How about a change of pace,
Please tell.us what you know that makes you so adamant City have done no wrong/it's all a conspiracy by the 'red cartel'.
You're quick to deflect, engage in whataboutery and tell us of City's innocence yet you never back it up with anything substantial.
----------------------------------------------------------
It's a personal judgement made by pitching what Khaldoon Mubarak MBA, CEO of City said v Some gossip on football forums, gleaned from clickbait websites, written by equally clueless people trying to increase web traffic.
Think it's fair to say that none of us fans know what was/was not said by anyone?
Even after the whole thing is finished it's unlikely we will know either, if there is a guilty or not guilty verdict is about as much as I'd assume will be said?
That said, I have no idea?
And yes, all the "said" was deliberate in case I sounded even more of a tool than usual
Boris having a total meltdown here
He's like one of those 'the earth is flat' weirdos
City's statement:-
Manchester City FC is surprised by the issuing of these alleged breaches of the Premier League Rules, particularly given the extensive engagement and vast amount of detailed materials that the EPL has been provided with.
The Club welcomes the review of this matter by an independent Commission, to impartially consider the comprehensive body of irrefutable evidence that exists in support of its position.
As such we look forward to this matter being put to rest once and for all.
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Usual reply from the Lawyers and Barristers ja606 is fameous for:-
"115 innit"
comment by Boris 'Inky’ Gibson (U5901)
posted 1 minute ago
City's statement:-
Manchester City FC is surprised by the issuing of these alleged breaches of the Premier League Rules, particularly given the extensive engagement and vast amount of detailed materials that the EPL has been provided with.
The Club welcomes the review of this matter by an independent Commission, to impartially consider the comprehensive body of irrefutable evidence that exists in support of its position.
As such we look forward to this matter being put to rest once and for all.
-------------------------------------------------------------
Usual reply from the Lawyers and Barristers ja606 is fameous for:-
"115 innit"
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I bet Fred The F*cking Weatherman was very surprised when he got nicked for being a dirty paedo, it didn't make him innocent did it you clown
City are finished.
comment by Insufferable-Piffle (U4388)
posted 2 minutes ago
Think it's fair to say that none of us fans know what was/was not said by anyone?
Even after the whole thing is finished it's unlikely we will know either, if there is a guilty or not guilty verdict is about as much as I'd assume will be said?
That said, I have no idea?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Huge reputational damage was probably the original motive considering the timing of the charges.
They've probably achieved that here but no one seems that interested on an international scale.
comment by Boris 'Inky’ Gibson (U5901)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Insufferable-Piffle (U4388)
posted 2 minutes ago
Think it's fair to say that none of us fans know what was/was not said by anyone?
Even after the whole thing is finished it's unlikely we will know either, if there is a guilty or not guilty verdict is about as much as I'd assume will be said?
That said, I have no idea?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Huge reputational damage was probably the original motive considering the timing of the charges.
They've probably achieved that here but no one seems that interested on an international scale.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Boris, I've said on other threads that I have little or no interest generally in the whole shooting match, some others have a deeper desire to invest and comment about it?
Each to their own but whatever happens I do not think there will be massive statements given about what was said or not, time will tell however
The whole of the PL is corrupt.
If justice were done, it would all come down to an Ipswich-Spurs double header.
First league title since 1962!
comment by it'sonlyagame (U6426)
posted 1 minute ago
The whole of the PL is corrupt.
If justice were done, it would all come down to an Ipswich-Spurs double header.
First league title since 1962!
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Can't see Spurs winning that one, tbh.
comment by Barf Vader (U15867)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by it'sonlyagame (U6426)
posted 1 minute ago
The whole of the PL is corrupt.
If justice were done, it would all come down to an Ipswich-Spurs double header.
First league title since 1962!
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Can't see Spurs winning that one, tbh.
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comment by Democracy & Debate Trumps Hate (U9489)
posted 3 hours, 40 minutes ago
You look at City’s lack of signings and wonder if players are refusing to consider them because of the case.
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Savinho says hi. Echeverri also says a belated hi albeit from January.
Savinho was already a City player you prat.
Echeverri?? He sounds like an Italian version of a fuc*ing Pokemon ffs. Some random youth player doesn't count and nor does Savinho as you already owned him.
comment by Boris 'Inky’ Gibson (U5901)
posted 2 hours, 29 minutes ago
How about a change of pace,
Please tell.us what you know that makes you so adamant City have done no wrong/it's all a conspiracy by the 'red cartel'.
You're quick to deflect, engage in whataboutery and tell us of City's innocence yet you never back it up with anything substantial.
----------------------------------------------------------
It's a personal judgement made by pitching what Khaldoon Mubarak MBA, CEO of City said v Some gossip on football forums, gleaned from clickbait websites, written by equally clueless people trying to increase web traffic.
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Well if Mubarak said it take it as gospel. Not like he's got a motive to lie or be disingenuous.
You really did swallow all the sky blue pills they fed you
comment by Democracy & Debate Trumps Hate (U9489)
posted 1 hour, 13 minutes ago
Savinho was already a City player you prat.
Echeverri?? He sounds like an Italian version of a fuc*ing Pokemon ffs. Some random youth player doesn't count and nor does Savinho as you already owned him.
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You really don't know anything, do you?
I'm just putting it out there. A perfectly legitimate question.
comment by mancW🏆🏆h🏆🏆- maximus mardius cob-onius (U10676)
posted 5 minutes ago
I'm just putting it out there. A perfectly legitimate question.
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Too witch the anser is;
Nope
If the emails aint schit, you can't acquit.
PL lawyer - Johnny Cochrane.
comment by FieldsofAnfieldRd (U18971)
Please tell.us what you know that makes you so adamant City have done no wrong/it's all a conspiracy by the 'red cartel'.
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The only evidence in the public domain known so far are the hacked emails.
Mancini has publicly denied that he was paid off the books.
Yaya Toure and his agent (who don't like City) have publicly denied that they were paid off the books.
CAS has ruled that there was no back door payment from the Sheikh to Etihad.
Etisalat case was partly time barred even though, witnesses were presented during the CAS hearing.
So, unless the PL has a smoking gun, the case will follow the same trajectory just like CAS hearing.
CAS decided that some of the charges were time-barred during their hearing and it was their decision that no further action was necessary.
This doesn't automatically mean there wasn't evidence to prove City were innocent of the charges, neither was it a legal mechinism that City hid behind.
comment by FieldsofAnfieldRd (U18971)
posted 1 hour, 11 minutes ago
comment by Boris 'Inky’ Gibson (U5901)
posted 2 hours, 29 minutes ago
How about a change of pace,
Please tell.us what you know that makes you so adamant City have done no wrong/it's all a conspiracy by the 'red cartel'.
You're quick to deflect, engage in whataboutery and tell us of City's innocence yet you never back it up with anything substantial.
----------------------------------------------------------
It's a personal judgement made by pitching what Khaldoon Mubarak MBA, CEO of City said v Some gossip on football forums, gleaned from clickbait websites, written by equally clueless people trying to increase web traffic.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Well if Mubarak said it take it as gospel. Not like he's got a motive to lie or be disingenuous.
You really did swallow all the sky blue pills they fed you
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So I should take the words of Nickey Numbnuts on Twitter as gospel but not believe a highly respected, international businessman who has basically put his integrity on the line.
comment by Boris 'Inky’ Gibson (U5901)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by FieldsofAnfieldRd (U18971)
posted 1 hour, 11 minutes ago
comment by Boris 'Inky’ Gibson (U5901)
posted 2 hours, 29 minutes ago
How about a change of pace,
Please tell.us what you know that makes you so adamant City have done no wrong/it's all a conspiracy by the 'red cartel'.
You're quick to deflect, engage in whataboutery and tell us of City's innocence yet you never back it up with anything substantial.
----------------------------------------------------------
It's a personal judgement made by pitching what Khaldoon Mubarak MBA, CEO of City said v Some gossip on football forums, gleaned from clickbait websites, written by equally clueless people trying to increase web traffic.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Well if Mubarak said it take it as gospel. Not like he's got a motive to lie or be disingenuous.
You really did swallow all the sky blue pills they fed you
----------------------------------------------------------------------
So I should take the words of Nickey Numbnuts on Twitter as gospel but not believe a highly respected, international businessman who has basically put his integrity on the line.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Deputy PM and senior member ruling of Oligarch oil state family with numerous human rights complaints is a highly respected businessman according to Boris
Is there anything you won't swallow from the Sheikh? Although that is illegal in.Abu Dhabi no?
comment by Boris 'Inky’ Gibson (U5901)
posted 2 minutes ago
CAS decided that some of the charges were time-barred during their hearing and it was their decision that no further action was necessary.
This doesn't automatically mean there wasn't evidence to prove City were innocent of the charges, neither was it a legal mechinism that City hid behind.
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If City wanted to clear their name they could produce documented evidence of the flow of money from sponsors to City. This would also be in the sponsors best interest to prove that they had not been complicit in a ruse to boost City's revenues.
As these sponsors are state owned and the City owner is a Emirati royal and politician, the links are very close and you'd except the ability to provide the water tight counter evidence (if it actually exists) would be right there....seems like the willingness isn't, which makes you wonder why...oh yeah, commercial confidentiality
I could show you this unequivocal counter evidence, but then i'd have to kill you
It would mean quite a few people having perjured themselves if City are found guilty of all the charges. Personally I can’t see it as it’s not worthy of it but just got to wait and see when the judgment comes out.
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posted on 14/8/24
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 50 minutes ago
comment by Boris 'Inky’ Gibson (U5901)
posted 6 minutes ago
These 'lack of cooperation' charges really make me laugh when no one knows what questions were being asked.
Sponsorship deals involve 2 parties, maybe the directors of Nissan, Nike and other Multi National companies etc didn't want the details of deals sharing with a panel made up of influential people employed by rival clubs.
Maybe Masters think Pep is being unhelpful by not revealing his starting XI 24 hours before a game, maybe he thinks there should be a public livestream of the tactics session.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
CAS themselves ruled that City were guilty of not cooperating with the investigation and they were fined 10m.
Fact is City could have cooperated with the PL investigation fully and this would not have even come this far if their evidence/information addressed the accusations.
The fact they chose not to and would rather deal with it in a lengthy expensive legal process, where they are able to tie the PL in knots on legal technicalities says a lot.
They could have been 100% open book but are hiding behind commercial confidentiality as a reason not to share key information.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
City cooperated with CAS though, probably on the basis they were deemed an impartial body and the details would remain confidential.
posted on 14/8/24
How about a change of pace,
Please tell.us what you know that makes you so adamant City have done no wrong/it's all a conspiracy by the 'red cartel'.
You're quick to deflect, engage in whataboutery and tell us of City's innocence yet you never back it up with anything substantial.
----------------------------------------------------------
It's a personal judgement made by pitching what Khaldoon Mubarak MBA, CEO of City said v Some gossip on football forums, gleaned from clickbait websites, written by equally clueless people trying to increase web traffic.
posted on 14/8/24
Think it's fair to say that none of us fans know what was/was not said by anyone?
Even after the whole thing is finished it's unlikely we will know either, if there is a guilty or not guilty verdict is about as much as I'd assume will be said?
That said, I have no idea?
posted on 14/8/24
And yes, all the "said" was deliberate in case I sounded even more of a tool than usual
posted on 14/8/24
Boris having a total meltdown here
He's like one of those 'the earth is flat' weirdos
posted on 14/8/24
City's statement:-
Manchester City FC is surprised by the issuing of these alleged breaches of the Premier League Rules, particularly given the extensive engagement and vast amount of detailed materials that the EPL has been provided with.
The Club welcomes the review of this matter by an independent Commission, to impartially consider the comprehensive body of irrefutable evidence that exists in support of its position.
As such we look forward to this matter being put to rest once and for all.
-------------------------------------------------------------
Usual reply from the Lawyers and Barristers ja606 is fameous for:-
"115 innit"
posted on 14/8/24
comment by Boris 'Inky’ Gibson (U5901)
posted 1 minute ago
City's statement:-
Manchester City FC is surprised by the issuing of these alleged breaches of the Premier League Rules, particularly given the extensive engagement and vast amount of detailed materials that the EPL has been provided with.
The Club welcomes the review of this matter by an independent Commission, to impartially consider the comprehensive body of irrefutable evidence that exists in support of its position.
As such we look forward to this matter being put to rest once and for all.
-------------------------------------------------------------
Usual reply from the Lawyers and Barristers ja606 is fameous for:-
"115 innit"
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I bet Fred The F*cking Weatherman was very surprised when he got nicked for being a dirty paedo, it didn't make him innocent did it you clown
City are finished.
posted on 14/8/24
comment by Insufferable-Piffle (U4388)
posted 2 minutes ago
Think it's fair to say that none of us fans know what was/was not said by anyone?
Even after the whole thing is finished it's unlikely we will know either, if there is a guilty or not guilty verdict is about as much as I'd assume will be said?
That said, I have no idea?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Huge reputational damage was probably the original motive considering the timing of the charges.
They've probably achieved that here but no one seems that interested on an international scale.
posted on 14/8/24
comment by Boris 'Inky’ Gibson (U5901)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Insufferable-Piffle (U4388)
posted 2 minutes ago
Think it's fair to say that none of us fans know what was/was not said by anyone?
Even after the whole thing is finished it's unlikely we will know either, if there is a guilty or not guilty verdict is about as much as I'd assume will be said?
That said, I have no idea?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Huge reputational damage was probably the original motive considering the timing of the charges.
They've probably achieved that here but no one seems that interested on an international scale.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Boris, I've said on other threads that I have little or no interest generally in the whole shooting match, some others have a deeper desire to invest and comment about it?
Each to their own but whatever happens I do not think there will be massive statements given about what was said or not, time will tell however
posted on 14/8/24
The whole of the PL is corrupt.
If justice were done, it would all come down to an Ipswich-Spurs double header.
First league title since 1962!
posted on 14/8/24
comment by it'sonlyagame (U6426)
posted 1 minute ago
The whole of the PL is corrupt.
If justice were done, it would all come down to an Ipswich-Spurs double header.
First league title since 1962!
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Can't see Spurs winning that one, tbh.
posted on 14/8/24
comment by Barf Vader (U15867)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by it'sonlyagame (U6426)
posted 1 minute ago
The whole of the PL is corrupt.
If justice were done, it would all come down to an Ipswich-Spurs double header.
First league title since 1962!
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Can't see Spurs winning that one, tbh.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
...
posted on 14/8/24
comment by Democracy & Debate Trumps Hate (U9489)
posted 3 hours, 40 minutes ago
You look at City’s lack of signings and wonder if players are refusing to consider them because of the case.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Savinho says hi. Echeverri also says a belated hi albeit from January.
posted on 14/8/24
Savinho was already a City player you prat.
Echeverri?? He sounds like an Italian version of a fuc*ing Pokemon ffs. Some random youth player doesn't count and nor does Savinho as you already owned him.
posted on 14/8/24
comment by Boris 'Inky’ Gibson (U5901)
posted 2 hours, 29 minutes ago
How about a change of pace,
Please tell.us what you know that makes you so adamant City have done no wrong/it's all a conspiracy by the 'red cartel'.
You're quick to deflect, engage in whataboutery and tell us of City's innocence yet you never back it up with anything substantial.
----------------------------------------------------------
It's a personal judgement made by pitching what Khaldoon Mubarak MBA, CEO of City said v Some gossip on football forums, gleaned from clickbait websites, written by equally clueless people trying to increase web traffic.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Well if Mubarak said it take it as gospel. Not like he's got a motive to lie or be disingenuous.
You really did swallow all the sky blue pills they fed you
posted on 14/8/24
comment by Democracy & Debate Trumps Hate (U9489)
posted 1 hour, 13 minutes ago
Savinho was already a City player you prat.
Echeverri?? He sounds like an Italian version of a fuc*ing Pokemon ffs. Some random youth player doesn't count and nor does Savinho as you already owned him.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
You really don't know anything, do you?
posted on 14/8/24
I'm just putting it out there. A perfectly legitimate question.
posted on 14/8/24
comment by mancW🏆🏆h🏆🏆- maximus mardius cob-onius (U10676)
posted 5 minutes ago
I'm just putting it out there. A perfectly legitimate question.
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Too witch the anser is;
Nope
posted on 14/8/24
If the emails aint schit, you can't acquit.
PL lawyer - Johnny Cochrane.
posted on 14/8/24
comment by FieldsofAnfieldRd (U18971)
Please tell.us what you know that makes you so adamant City have done no wrong/it's all a conspiracy by the 'red cartel'.
-------------------------------------------------------------------
The only evidence in the public domain known so far are the hacked emails.
Mancini has publicly denied that he was paid off the books.
Yaya Toure and his agent (who don't like City) have publicly denied that they were paid off the books.
CAS has ruled that there was no back door payment from the Sheikh to Etihad.
Etisalat case was partly time barred even though, witnesses were presented during the CAS hearing.
So, unless the PL has a smoking gun, the case will follow the same trajectory just like CAS hearing.
posted on 14/8/24
CAS decided that some of the charges were time-barred during their hearing and it was their decision that no further action was necessary.
This doesn't automatically mean there wasn't evidence to prove City were innocent of the charges, neither was it a legal mechinism that City hid behind.
posted on 14/8/24
comment by FieldsofAnfieldRd (U18971)
posted 1 hour, 11 minutes ago
comment by Boris 'Inky’ Gibson (U5901)
posted 2 hours, 29 minutes ago
How about a change of pace,
Please tell.us what you know that makes you so adamant City have done no wrong/it's all a conspiracy by the 'red cartel'.
You're quick to deflect, engage in whataboutery and tell us of City's innocence yet you never back it up with anything substantial.
----------------------------------------------------------
It's a personal judgement made by pitching what Khaldoon Mubarak MBA, CEO of City said v Some gossip on football forums, gleaned from clickbait websites, written by equally clueless people trying to increase web traffic.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Well if Mubarak said it take it as gospel. Not like he's got a motive to lie or be disingenuous.
You really did swallow all the sky blue pills they fed you
----------------------------------------------------------------------
So I should take the words of Nickey Numbnuts on Twitter as gospel but not believe a highly respected, international businessman who has basically put his integrity on the line.
posted on 14/8/24
comment by Boris 'Inky’ Gibson (U5901)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by FieldsofAnfieldRd (U18971)
posted 1 hour, 11 minutes ago
comment by Boris 'Inky’ Gibson (U5901)
posted 2 hours, 29 minutes ago
How about a change of pace,
Please tell.us what you know that makes you so adamant City have done no wrong/it's all a conspiracy by the 'red cartel'.
You're quick to deflect, engage in whataboutery and tell us of City's innocence yet you never back it up with anything substantial.
----------------------------------------------------------
It's a personal judgement made by pitching what Khaldoon Mubarak MBA, CEO of City said v Some gossip on football forums, gleaned from clickbait websites, written by equally clueless people trying to increase web traffic.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Well if Mubarak said it take it as gospel. Not like he's got a motive to lie or be disingenuous.
You really did swallow all the sky blue pills they fed you
----------------------------------------------------------------------
So I should take the words of Nickey Numbnuts on Twitter as gospel but not believe a highly respected, international businessman who has basically put his integrity on the line.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Deputy PM and senior member ruling of Oligarch oil state family with numerous human rights complaints is a highly respected businessman according to Boris
Is there anything you won't swallow from the Sheikh? Although that is illegal in.Abu Dhabi no?
posted on 14/8/24
comment by Boris 'Inky’ Gibson (U5901)
posted 2 minutes ago
CAS decided that some of the charges were time-barred during their hearing and it was their decision that no further action was necessary.
This doesn't automatically mean there wasn't evidence to prove City were innocent of the charges, neither was it a legal mechinism that City hid behind.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
If City wanted to clear their name they could produce documented evidence of the flow of money from sponsors to City. This would also be in the sponsors best interest to prove that they had not been complicit in a ruse to boost City's revenues.
As these sponsors are state owned and the City owner is a Emirati royal and politician, the links are very close and you'd except the ability to provide the water tight counter evidence (if it actually exists) would be right there....seems like the willingness isn't, which makes you wonder why...oh yeah, commercial confidentiality
I could show you this unequivocal counter evidence, but then i'd have to kill you
posted on 14/8/24
It would mean quite a few people having perjured themselves if City are found guilty of all the charges. Personally I can’t see it as it’s not worthy of it but just got to wait and see when the judgment comes out.
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