I’m gonna be perfectly honest Batty - no it wouldn’t be surprising at all. But let’s face it, he’s been on thin ice since the incident last year. And I think most have cut him some slack considering.
My opinion is that he is an annoying presence on the field. Always looks easy to wind up. Sarcastically smiling at challenges all the time. Forever complaining to the ref.
I couldn’t care less if he left. Let’s have players here that want to play.
Gnonto always promises more than he delivers and, as infinite one says, he isn’t a positive presence in the team. Even less so with his best mate gone.
This is the least of our problems. we've already got his replacement and he's not even gone
This new signing can play left and right wing and centre forward so very versatile but hopefully not a Jack of all trades but either way if Gnonto departs we've at least got a decent replacement and with Jaidon Anthony or Benson likely to follow our forward line doesn't look too shabby.
Can't see Jack Clarke turning down Ipswich and the EPL which is the latest development but who knows as this new signing has been a pleasant surprise so you never know.
Agree that Gnonto wastes his undoubted talents being more interested in petty sarcastic gestures than doing the business. But if he was going, I'd like to think it would have been before now. Ramazani (assuming he passes the medical) is an impressive & surprising signing but he's only one player. If we lose Gnonto as well there's still a hell of a lot of ground to make up on our squad depth in the space of just over a week.
They will not let him go.
comment by salonika73 (U4688)
posted 20 minutes ago
They will not let him go.
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That's how i'm seeing it.
Reliable and Journalist in the same sentence?
If someone offers over £20m then flog him. If he wants to go then get rid!
Fed up of players kissing the badge and then buggering off at the first opportunity. Or trying to in his case.
Everton seem to have gone cool on him.
I watched Gnonto closely in first games and I thought his effort was spot on, so no complaints there, but agree with others, his sarcastic smiling, sniping and complaining are tiresome and he never quite delivers.
If he wants to go, let him go before he becomes worth even less last summer.
But if he goes that's 7 players need not 6, they he fact we've been heavily linked to 1 player is just not enough.
He might be annoying and frustrating but he is the only player left who can do something different and scare the life out of defenders.
We've been a much poorer team when he has been substituted as noted on the matchday threads.
"his sarcastic smiling, sniping and complaining are tiresome"
- anyone else noticing an elephant in the room here
comment by Stoopo (U4707)
posted 34 minutes ago
If someone offers over £20m then flog him. If he wants to go then get rid!
Fed up of players kissing the badge and then buggering off at the first opportunity. Or trying to in his case.
Everton seem to have gone cool on him.
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Reported that we rejected £23m for him earlier in the window.
Got no issue with Gnonto
Probably got over egged a bit when we first signed him
Think he has a lot of ability. Plays better off the left and now Somerville has left he may get the chance (not sure where the new winger will play)
Its messy when too many players leave. On paper - fine. Sign a replacement and it looks nice. But players need time to settle in, understand the new manager tactics, buy a house etc. I always judge a player in their second season. Gnonto may want to leave but he's settled in the area and in the club and its way of playing. I'd do all we can to keep him unless he starts to really affect the dressing room
3 years left. Force him to stay.
Even offer a new deal with a release clause of £25m if we don’t go up.
Probably would have to sell at that price next summer anyway if we don’t go up. Given the financial position we will be in and time left on his contract.
Out of all the players we have already sold he'd be the least id be bothered about if he left.
Although unless hes got a dodgy release clause I think we have the upper hand here.
Zero confidence we would replace him or improve on him in this window.
Hard to find a wide player that contributes as much as him and will score 12+ goals. He’s the only player in the team now who can actually carry the ball.
We’ve had enough outgoings for one window.
Put yourself in his shoes, would you want to stay?
As much as I like Gnonto, he does blow hot and cold but most of all, I'm completely fed up with the uncertainty of whether he wants to be here or not. Fed up of the 20 million, he wants out rumours every other week.
All the above comments are justified but truthfully if I had the final say on whether he stays or is sold I'd definitely insist he stays as he's that extra bit of magic a side needs to sway a match....unfortunately it's all hyperthetical because he seems destined to leave before Sept 1st.
comment by Macca & The Metal Hips: fka Wheelchair Dav... (U8194)
posted 9 minutes ago
All the above comments are justified but truthfully if I had the final say on whether he stays or is sold I'd definitely insist he stays as he's that extra bit of magic a side needs to sway a match....unfortunately it's all hyperthetical because he seems destined to leave before Sept 1st.
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Won't happen
Most player who want away usually achieve it the obvious way. Performance and attitude affects team cohesion and the players agent usually has a client in mind ready for his commission. I forget the name of a player in 1990 -2000s whose agent was his brother and they worked the system to the full ( with commissions)
If we get £20m plus and can replace him then he can go though i would prefer him to stay asits late in the window, hes got no pace so not sure he will cut it in the PL.
comment by AndDonRevieistheKing (U7852)
posted 1 hour, 9 minutes ago
If we get £20m plus and can replace him then he can go though i would prefer him to stay asits late in the window, hes got no pace so not sure he will cut it in the PL.
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Apparently turned down £23m from Everton earlier in the window…they seem to be his only suitors.
I was listening to Big Sam on talk sport this morning (at least I think it was him). He spoke about players wanting to leave or holding a grudge against a manager for not starting them. He said they are like bad apples in a barrel - they rot and it spreads to the other apples.
I hope Gnonto stays because we need his type - but if he’s gonna be a bad Apple then get shot of him.
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posted on 21/8/24
I’m gonna be perfectly honest Batty - no it wouldn’t be surprising at all. But let’s face it, he’s been on thin ice since the incident last year. And I think most have cut him some slack considering.
My opinion is that he is an annoying presence on the field. Always looks easy to wind up. Sarcastically smiling at challenges all the time. Forever complaining to the ref.
I couldn’t care less if he left. Let’s have players here that want to play.
posted on 21/8/24
Gnonto always promises more than he delivers and, as infinite one says, he isn’t a positive presence in the team. Even less so with his best mate gone.
posted on 21/8/24
This is the least of our problems. we've already got his replacement and he's not even gone
posted on 22/8/24
This new signing can play left and right wing and centre forward so very versatile but hopefully not a Jack of all trades but either way if Gnonto departs we've at least got a decent replacement and with Jaidon Anthony or Benson likely to follow our forward line doesn't look too shabby.
Can't see Jack Clarke turning down Ipswich and the EPL which is the latest development but who knows as this new signing has been a pleasant surprise so you never know.
posted on 22/8/24
Agree that Gnonto wastes his undoubted talents being more interested in petty sarcastic gestures than doing the business. But if he was going, I'd like to think it would have been before now. Ramazani (assuming he passes the medical) is an impressive & surprising signing but he's only one player. If we lose Gnonto as well there's still a hell of a lot of ground to make up on our squad depth in the space of just over a week.
posted on 22/8/24
They will not let him go.
posted on 22/8/24
comment by salonika73 (U4688)
posted 20 minutes ago
They will not let him go.
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That's how i'm seeing it.
posted on 22/8/24
Reliable and Journalist in the same sentence?
posted on 22/8/24
If someone offers over £20m then flog him. If he wants to go then get rid!
Fed up of players kissing the badge and then buggering off at the first opportunity. Or trying to in his case.
Everton seem to have gone cool on him.
posted on 22/8/24
I watched Gnonto closely in first games and I thought his effort was spot on, so no complaints there, but agree with others, his sarcastic smiling, sniping and complaining are tiresome and he never quite delivers.
If he wants to go, let him go before he becomes worth even less last summer.
But if he goes that's 7 players need not 6, they he fact we've been heavily linked to 1 player is just not enough.
posted on 22/8/24
He might be annoying and frustrating but he is the only player left who can do something different and scare the life out of defenders.
We've been a much poorer team when he has been substituted as noted on the matchday threads.
posted on 22/8/24
"his sarcastic smiling, sniping and complaining are tiresome"
- anyone else noticing an elephant in the room here
posted on 22/8/24
comment by Stoopo (U4707)
posted 34 minutes ago
If someone offers over £20m then flog him. If he wants to go then get rid!
Fed up of players kissing the badge and then buggering off at the first opportunity. Or trying to in his case.
Everton seem to have gone cool on him.
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Reported that we rejected £23m for him earlier in the window.
posted on 22/8/24
Got no issue with Gnonto
Probably got over egged a bit when we first signed him
Think he has a lot of ability. Plays better off the left and now Somerville has left he may get the chance (not sure where the new winger will play)
Its messy when too many players leave. On paper - fine. Sign a replacement and it looks nice. But players need time to settle in, understand the new manager tactics, buy a house etc. I always judge a player in their second season. Gnonto may want to leave but he's settled in the area and in the club and its way of playing. I'd do all we can to keep him unless he starts to really affect the dressing room
posted on 22/8/24
3 years left. Force him to stay.
Even offer a new deal with a release clause of £25m if we don’t go up.
Probably would have to sell at that price next summer anyway if we don’t go up. Given the financial position we will be in and time left on his contract.
posted on 22/8/24
Out of all the players we have already sold he'd be the least id be bothered about if he left.
Although unless hes got a dodgy release clause I think we have the upper hand here.
posted on 22/8/24
Zero confidence we would replace him or improve on him in this window.
Hard to find a wide player that contributes as much as him and will score 12+ goals. He’s the only player in the team now who can actually carry the ball.
We’ve had enough outgoings for one window.
Put yourself in his shoes, would you want to stay?
posted on 22/8/24
As much as I like Gnonto, he does blow hot and cold but most of all, I'm completely fed up with the uncertainty of whether he wants to be here or not. Fed up of the 20 million, he wants out rumours every other week.
posted on 22/8/24
All the above comments are justified but truthfully if I had the final say on whether he stays or is sold I'd definitely insist he stays as he's that extra bit of magic a side needs to sway a match....unfortunately it's all hyperthetical because he seems destined to leave before Sept 1st.
posted on 22/8/24
comment by Macca & The Metal Hips: fka Wheelchair Dav... (U8194)
posted 9 minutes ago
All the above comments are justified but truthfully if I had the final say on whether he stays or is sold I'd definitely insist he stays as he's that extra bit of magic a side needs to sway a match....unfortunately it's all hyperthetical because he seems destined to leave before Sept 1st.
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Won't happen
posted on 22/8/24
Most player who want away usually achieve it the obvious way. Performance and attitude affects team cohesion and the players agent usually has a client in mind ready for his commission. I forget the name of a player in 1990 -2000s whose agent was his brother and they worked the system to the full ( with commissions)
posted on 22/8/24
Back to the OP:
Nope.
posted on 22/8/24
If we get £20m plus and can replace him then he can go though i would prefer him to stay asits late in the window, hes got no pace so not sure he will cut it in the PL.
posted on 22/8/24
comment by AndDonRevieistheKing (U7852)
posted 1 hour, 9 minutes ago
If we get £20m plus and can replace him then he can go though i would prefer him to stay asits late in the window, hes got no pace so not sure he will cut it in the PL.
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Apparently turned down £23m from Everton earlier in the window…they seem to be his only suitors.
posted on 22/8/24
I was listening to Big Sam on talk sport this morning (at least I think it was him). He spoke about players wanting to leave or holding a grudge against a manager for not starting them. He said they are like bad apples in a barrel - they rot and it spreads to the other apples.
I hope Gnonto stays because we need his type - but if he’s gonna be a bad Apple then get shot of him.
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