Yeah but just because you won’t doesn’t mean others won’t.
I bet at even £90 Villa vs Bayern could sell out 2 times over. This is the world we’re in now - it seems expensive but Villa haven’t played that calibre of European opponent in a competitive fixture for decades
I don't live in the UK so not sure but don't people pay similar amounts, if not more for a ticket for Taylor Swift, Oasis or a popular West End show ?
comment by Striketeam7 - staying humble (U18109)
posted 7 minutes ago
Yeah but just because you won’t doesn’t mean others won’t.
I bet at even £90 Villa vs Bayern could sell out 2 times over. This is the world we’re in now - it seems expensive but Villa haven’t played that calibre of European opponent in a competitive fixture for decades
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there would be people that would pay £300 a ticket for Real Madrid.
People would pay £1000s for a champ league final ticket, does that mean we should price it at that... no chance
comnpared to the 19 euros Bayern will be charging some fans for Champ league tickets
Sooner or later the reality will bite for football fans. Therres no such thing as a football club and football fans at the top level in the UK. These are business and run as such. You ae therefore a customer and will be treated as such. I don't like it but it is what it is. If you don't like it you are free to go somewhere else. With the globalization of football, there will be someone to take your spot from somebody in some part of the world because the demand far exceeds the supply.
comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 1 minute ago
comnpared to the 19 euros Bayern will be charging some fans for Champ league tickets
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Great example of what happens with supporter ownership model. Those people who bltch about ticket prices are the same people who bltch when privately owned clubs don't spend enough on transfers. You cant have it both ways. You want your owners to take on massive financial risk while keeping tickets as cheap ... sorry, the real world doesn't work like that
comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 9 minutes ago
comnpared to the 19 euros Bayern will be charging some fans for Champ league tickets
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We all know what would happen if Villa had say 5000 tickets being charged at £25 - the fans would buy them and sell them on for treble
Exactly what happens with the £30 away tickets scam.
I’d rather pay the football club £100 for a ticket than a tout £80 as otherwise all I am doing is enabling the tout further.
Now fair distribution of limited tickets is a much better debate - otherwise I massively welcome dynamic pricing
comment by Striketeam7 - staying humble (U18109)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 9 minutes ago
comnpared to the 19 euros Bayern will be charging some fans for Champ league tickets
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We all know what would happen if Villa had say 5000 tickets being charged at £25 - the fans would buy them and sell them on for treble
Exactly what happens with the £30 away tickets scam.
I’d rather pay the football club £100 for a ticket than a tout £80 as otherwise all I am doing is enabling the tout further.
Now fair distribution of limited tickets is a much better debate - otherwise I massively welcome dynamic pricing
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na i think most fans would snap they tickets up for themselves .... are you saying this is your expectations of how Spurs fans would act?
I can assure you that wouldnt be the case at my club.
besides even if they did charge twice the price of a £25 ticket thats still half price of what is being done now!
comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 14 minutes ago
comment by Striketeam7 - staying humble (U18109)
posted 7 minutes ago
Yeah but just because you won’t doesn’t mean others won’t.
I bet at even £90 Villa vs Bayern could sell out 2 times over. This is the world we’re in now - it seems expensive but Villa haven’t played that calibre of European opponent in a competitive fixture for decades
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there would be people that would pay £300 a ticket for Real Madrid.
People would pay £1000s for a champ league final ticket, does that mean we should price it at that... no chance
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What’s the answer though - Spurs get to CL final and demand for tickets is 80,000 strong, but after UEFA have had their cut we’re left with 9,000 tickets - so 71,000 will be disappointed - what’s the fair way to distribute bearing in mind that loyalty points have been a huge scam at top Prem clubs since the £30 away ticket cap was introduced
Ballot seems fair but it would mean that a bloke that has been to every game home and away in a season might miss out to someone who has been twice
Loyalty points - yeah faaaack that. There are parasitic fans who use their existing loyalty points to purchase away tickets and sell them on for double. They go to about 5 home games and flog the rest on as well, but they keep picking up the loyalty points and are therefore top of the pile when cup finals come round - it’s a scam
Dynamic pricing - rules out those that cannot afford it, on the flip side, gives others who save up to got to 2/3 away a season a chance to go to an away game that’s usually a closed shop
comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Striketeam7 - staying humble (U18109)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 9 minutes ago
comnpared to the 19 euros Bayern will be charging some fans for Champ league tickets
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We all know what would happen if Villa had say 5000 tickets being charged at £25 - the fans would buy them and sell them on for treble
Exactly what happens with the £30 away tickets scam.
I’d rather pay the football club £100 for a ticket than a tout £80 as otherwise all I am doing is enabling the tout further.
Now fair distribution of limited tickets is a much better debate - otherwise I massively welcome dynamic pricing
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na i think most fans would snap they tickets up for themselves .... are you saying this is your expectations of how Spurs fans would act?
I can assure you that wouldnt be the case at my club.
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I know of fans at Spurs that use their loyalty points to do this and then when the CL final came round they were top of the pile and wanted to go themselves - didn’t fancy going up north for away games though, they just sold those on for profit
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posted 2 minutes ago
besides even if they did charge twice the price of a £25 ticket thats still half price of what is being done now!
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But that ticket is going to someone who may not even support that team and is enabling touts to continue and potentially stopping a genuine fan getting a ticket through legitimate means.
I find it surprising your all for touting but against clubs charging high prices on a supply and demand basis - bit odd
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posted 40 seconds ago
comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 14 minutes ago
comment by Striketeam7 - staying humble (U18109)
posted 7 minutes ago
Yeah but just because you won’t doesn’t mean others won’t.
I bet at even £90 Villa vs Bayern could sell out 2 times over. This is the world we’re in now - it seems expensive but Villa haven’t played that calibre of European opponent in a competitive fixture for decades
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there would be people that would pay £300 a ticket for Real Madrid.
People would pay £1000s for a champ league final ticket, does that mean we should price it at that... no chance
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What’s the answer though - Spurs get to CL final and demand for tickets is 80,000 strong, but after UEFA have had their cut we’re left with 9,000 tickets - so 71,000 will be disappointed - what’s the fair way to distribute bearing in mind that loyalty points have been a huge scam at top Prem clubs since the £30 away ticket cap was introduced
Ballot seems fair but it would mean that a bloke that has been to every game home and away in a season might miss out to someone who has been twice
Loyalty points - yeah faaaack that. There are parasitic fans who use their existing loyalty points to purchase away tickets and sell them on for double. They go to about 5 home games and flog the rest on as well, but they keep picking up the loyalty points and are therefore top of the pile when cup finals come round - it’s a scam
Dynamic pricing - rules out those that cannot afford it, on the flip side, gives others who save up to got to 2/3 away a season a chance to go to an away game that’s usually a closed shop
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the answer is make them affordable... what would be the difference in monies earned by the club? 10m a year? thats pittance to the money earned by Spurs, that gets you what, a good players shin pads in the EPL?
Season ticket holders get priority for the tickets the rest and the season ticket holders who dont take up the tickets all go into a ballot.
Fair is fair, make the game accessible to as many fans as possible.
If you want more and more casual fans rather than more devoted regular fans to attend games then fire away and charge through the nose, and slowly watch the atmosphere and buzz around games die week by week, season by season.
comment by Striketeam7 - staying humble (U18109)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 2 minutes ago
besides even if they did charge twice the price of a £25 ticket thats still half price of what is being done now!
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But that ticket is going to someone who may not even support that team and is enabling touts to continue and potentially stopping a genuine fan getting a ticket through legitimate means.
I find it surprising your all for touting but against clubs charging high prices on a supply and demand basis - bit odd
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the club are already bypassing many fans and family groups who cant afford them.
I never said im all for touting stop taking pi$h i said its prob still better than the current option of not being able to afford them.
Id pay 100 for a knockout stage away game at the Bernabeu, Nou Camp etc, certainly wouldn't for a home game.
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posted 19 minutes ago
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posted 40 seconds ago
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posted 14 minutes ago
comment by Striketeam7 - staying humble (U18109)
posted 7 minutes ago
Yeah but just because you won’t doesn’t mean others won’t.
I bet at even £90 Villa vs Bayern could sell out 2 times over. This is the world we’re in now - it seems expensive but Villa haven’t played that calibre of European opponent in a competitive fixture for decades
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there would be people that would pay £300 a ticket for Real Madrid.
People would pay £1000s for a champ league final ticket, does that mean we should price it at that... no chance
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What’s the answer though - Spurs get to CL final and demand for tickets is 80,000 strong, but after UEFA have had their cut we’re left with 9,000 tickets - so 71,000 will be disappointed - what’s the fair way to distribute bearing in mind that loyalty points have been a huge scam at top Prem clubs since the £30 away ticket cap was introduced
Ballot seems fair but it would mean that a bloke that has been to every game home and away in a season might miss out to someone who has been twice
Loyalty points - yeah faaaack that. There are parasitic fans who use their existing loyalty points to purchase away tickets and sell them on for double. They go to about 5 home games and flog the rest on as well, but they keep picking up the loyalty points and are therefore top of the pile when cup finals come round - it’s a scam
Dynamic pricing - rules out those that cannot afford it, on the flip side, gives others who save up to got to 2/3 away a season a chance to go to an away game that’s usually a closed shop
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the answer is make them affordable... what would be the difference in monies earned by the club? 10m a year? thats pittance to the money earned by Spurs, that gets you what, a good players shin pads in the EPL?
Season ticket holders get priority for the tickets the rest and the season ticket holders who dont take up the tickets all go into a ballot.
Fair is fair, make the game accessible to as many fans as possible.
If you want more and more casual fans rather than more devoted regular fans to attend games then fire away and charge through the nose, and slowly watch the atmosphere and buzz around games die week by week, season by season.
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Your not listening
At our club we have season ticket holders with 600 + loyalty points who use those points to buy tickets for every away game - they then sell virtually all of those away tickets on, often for a profit whilst banking the loyalty points that come with it.
What that mean is that fans with 300 points can’t grow their points to compete because the 600 pointers have snaffled all the tickets - the 300 pointers then have to buy off the 600 pointers at an increased rate whilst still not getting the loyalty points.
Then the 2019 CL final comes round and that game is the one game the 600 pointers will make the effort for whilst the 300 pointers might have been to 6 times as many games as them that season but haven’t a chance of a ticket.
How is that fair?
comment by Shaun M - supercalifragilisticOrtaisatrocious (U9955)
posted 21 minutes ago
Id pay 100 for a knockout stage away game at the Bernabeu, Nou Camp etc, certainly wouldn't for a home game.
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Exactly and the club could still sell it out at twice the price for an away game like that
comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 31 minutes ago
I never said im all for touting stop taking pi$h i said its prob still better than the current option of not being able to afford them.
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Why is it better for fans to miss out due to not having enough loyalty points despite going to more games than fans that do have enough loyalty points, than it is for fans to miss out because they cannot afford it?
The end result is the same so what’s the issue with how it is decided?
It really depends on the club as well. Villa are a decent sized club but at these prices, it’s extortionate. Fans may buy them and it may even be a sell out but don’t be surprised if some seats are empty.
London clubs seem to charge arm and a leg just for their location, which is a joke in itself. One of the good things about Europe is that football culture is very rich, and for some reason the owners want to adopt this silly American model. It only works in USA because it’s a massive country & its the no 1 economy in the world.
posted 1 week, 6 days ago
comment by Striketeam7 - staying humble (U18109)
posted 16 hours, 2 minutes ago
Yeah but just because you won’t doesn’t mean others won’t.
I bet at even £90 Villa vs Bayern could sell out 2 times over. This is the world we’re in now - it seems expensive but Villa haven’t played that calibre of European opponent in a competitive fixture for decades
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Strikemug, how the devil are you?
and this could have / should have been you paying to see spurs in the CL... well if you were a spurs fan, and not an anti arsenal fan.
you get the big screen in your new stadium to play the arsenal games yet?, you'll at least have something to watch while at your games
AAAAW
(all anti arsenal arent we)
posted 1 week, 6 days ago
comment by Striketeam7 - staying humble (U18109)
posted 16 hours, 4 minutes ago
comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 19 minutes ago
comment by Striketeam7 - staying humble (U18109)
posted 40 seconds ago
comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 14 minutes ago
comment by Striketeam7 - staying humble (U18109)
posted 7 minutes ago
Yeah but just because you won’t doesn’t mean others won’t.
I bet at even £90 Villa vs Bayern could sell out 2 times over. This is the world we’re in now - it seems expensive but Villa haven’t played that calibre of European opponent in a competitive fixture for decades
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there would be people that would pay £300 a ticket for Real Madrid.
People would pay £1000s for a champ league final ticket, does that mean we should price it at that... no chance
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What’s the answer though - Spurs get to CL final and demand for tickets is 80,000 strong, but after UEFA have had their cut we’re left with 9,000 tickets - so 71,000 will be disappointed - what’s the fair way to distribute bearing in mind that loyalty points have been a huge scam at top Prem clubs since the £30 away ticket cap was introduced
Ballot seems fair but it would mean that a bloke that has been to every game home and away in a season might miss out to someone who has been twice
Loyalty points - yeah faaaack that. There are parasitic fans who use their existing loyalty points to purchase away tickets and sell them on for double. They go to about 5 home games and flog the rest on as well, but they keep picking up the loyalty points and are therefore top of the pile when cup finals come round - it’s a scam
Dynamic pricing - rules out those that cannot afford it, on the flip side, gives others who save up to got to 2/3 away a season a chance to go to an away game that’s usually a closed shop
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the answer is make them affordable... what would be the difference in monies earned by the club? 10m a year? thats pittance to the money earned by Spurs, that gets you what, a good players shin pads in the EPL?
Season ticket holders get priority for the tickets the rest and the season ticket holders who dont take up the tickets all go into a ballot.
Fair is fair, make the game accessible to as many fans as possible.
If you want more and more casual fans rather than more devoted regular fans to attend games then fire away and charge through the nose, and slowly watch the atmosphere and buzz around games die week by week, season by season.
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Your not listening
At our club we have season ticket holders with 600 + loyalty points who use those points to buy tickets for every away game - they then sell virtually all of those away tickets on, often for a profit whilst banking the loyalty points that come with it.
What that mean is that fans with 300 points can’t grow their points to compete because the 600 pointers have snaffled all the tickets - the 300 pointers then have to buy off the 600 pointers at an increased rate whilst still not getting the loyalty points.
Then the 2019 CL final comes round and that game is the one game the 600 pointers will make the effort for whilst the 300 pointers might have been to 6 times as many games as them that season but haven’t a chance of a ticket.
How is that fair?
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and how does raising the ticket prices combat that ? surely they just do the same thing buyt them at the higher prices and then sell them on for even more.
At the higher price point you eliminate some of your fans instantly touts or not. At least at the lower prices they stil have a chance
posted 1 week, 6 days ago
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posted 2 hours, 12 minutes ago
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posted 16 hours, 2 minutes ago
Yeah but just because you won’t doesn’t mean others won’t.
I bet at even £90 Villa vs Bayern could sell out 2 times over. This is the world we’re in now - it seems expensive but Villa haven’t played that calibre of European opponent in a competitive fixture for decades
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Strikemug, how the devil are you?
and this could have / should have been you paying to see spurs in the CL... well if you were a spurs fan, and not an anti arsenal fan.
you get the big screen in your new stadium to play the arsenal games yet?, you'll at least have something to watch while at your games
AAAAW
(all anti arsenal arent we)
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Who are you?
posted 1 week, 6 days ago
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posted 1 hour, 2 minutes ago
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posted 16 hours, 4 minutes ago
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posted 19 minutes ago
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posted 40 seconds ago
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posted 14 minutes ago
comment by Striketeam7 - staying humble (U18109)
posted 7 minutes ago
Yeah but just because you won’t doesn’t mean others won’t.
I bet at even £90 Villa vs Bayern could sell out 2 times over. This is the world we’re in now - it seems expensive but Villa haven’t played that calibre of European opponent in a competitive fixture for decades
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there would be people that would pay £300 a ticket for Real Madrid.
People would pay £1000s for a champ league final ticket, does that mean we should price it at that... no chance
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What’s the answer though - Spurs get to CL final and demand for tickets is 80,000 strong, but after UEFA have had their cut we’re left with 9,000 tickets - so 71,000 will be disappointed - what’s the fair way to distribute bearing in mind that loyalty points have been a huge scam at top Prem clubs since the £30 away ticket cap was introduced
Ballot seems fair but it would mean that a bloke that has been to every game home and away in a season might miss out to someone who has been twice
Loyalty points - yeah faaaack that. There are parasitic fans who use their existing loyalty points to purchase away tickets and sell them on for double. They go to about 5 home games and flog the rest on as well, but they keep picking up the loyalty points and are therefore top of the pile when cup finals come round - it’s a scam
Dynamic pricing - rules out those that cannot afford it, on the flip side, gives others who save up to got to 2/3 away a season a chance to go to an away game that’s usually a closed shop
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the answer is make them affordable... what would be the difference in monies earned by the club? 10m a year? thats pittance to the money earned by Spurs, that gets you what, a good players shin pads in the EPL?
Season ticket holders get priority for the tickets the rest and the season ticket holders who dont take up the tickets all go into a ballot.
Fair is fair, make the game accessible to as many fans as possible.
If you want more and more casual fans rather than more devoted regular fans to attend games then fire away and charge through the nose, and slowly watch the atmosphere and buzz around games die week by week, season by season.
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Your not listening
At our club we have season ticket holders with 600 + loyalty points who use those points to buy tickets for every away game - they then sell virtually all of those away tickets on, often for a profit whilst banking the loyalty points that come with it.
What that mean is that fans with 300 points can’t grow their points to compete because the 600 pointers have snaffled all the tickets - the 300 pointers then have to buy off the 600 pointers at an increased rate whilst still not getting the loyalty points.
Then the 2019 CL final comes round and that game is the one game the 600 pointers will make the effort for whilst the 300 pointers might have been to 6 times as many games as them that season but haven’t a chance of a ticket.
How is that fair?
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and how does raising the ticket prices combat that ? surely they just do the same thing buyt them at the higher prices and then sell them on for even more.
At the higher price point you eliminate some of your fans instantly touts or not. At least at the lower prices they stil have a chance
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Touts were far less prevalent for away games pre cap. They never bothered paying £45 for Middlesbrough away a decade ago as there was a real chance they wouldn’t make their money back. At £30 it’s far less of a hit and they take their chances as they know at worst they can shift it for £25, take a small loss and pocket the loyalty points and make that money back x20 by selling a ticket to Arsenal away.
Sure it’s not nice pricing people out, but currently Spurs have the same 3,000 people buying all the away tickets to every game and no one else getting a look in unless they buy off a tout - and those 3,000 unbelievably then get loyalty points on top for buying those away tickets - meaning the other fans can never ever catch them up - it’s a closed shop and completely unfair.
If we get 2,000 away tickets, why not do 1000 based on loyalty points, 500 on Ballot and 500 on premium pricing. More fans will get to go to more away games and it will no longer be a closed shop.
Additionally, loyalty points should not be given for going to away games - it’s a privilege to go, their shouldn’t be that additional incentive
posted 1 week, 6 days ago
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posted 14 minutes ago
comment by Striketeam7 - staying humble (U18109)
posted 7 minutes ago
Yeah but just because you won’t doesn’t mean others won’t.
I bet at even £90 Villa vs Bayern could sell out 2 times over. This is the world we’re in now - it seems expensive but Villa haven’t played that calibre of European opponent in a competitive fixture for decades
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there would be people that would pay £300 a ticket for Real Madrid.
People would pay £1000s for a champ league final ticket, does that mean we should price it at that... no chance
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What’s the answer though - Spurs get to CL final and demand for tickets is 80,000 strong, but after UEFA have had their cut we’re left with 9,000 tickets - so 71,000 will be disappointed - what’s the fair way to distribute bearing in mind that loyalty points have been a huge scam at top Prem clubs since the £30 away ticket cap was introduced
Ballot seems fair but it would mean that a bloke that has been to every game home and away in a season might miss out to someone who has been twice
Loyalty points - yeah faaaack that. There are parasitic fans who use their existing loyalty points to purchase away tickets and sell them on for double. They go to about 5 home games and flog the rest on as well, but they keep picking up the loyalty points and are therefore top of the pile when cup finals come round - it’s a scam
Dynamic pricing - rules out those that cannot afford it, on the flip side, gives others who save up to got to 2/3 away a season a chance to go to an away game that’s usually a closed shop
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the answer is make them affordable... what would be the difference in monies earned by the club? 10m a year? thats pittance to the money earned by Spurs, that gets you what, a good players shin pads in the EPL?
Season ticket holders get priority for the tickets the rest and the season ticket holders who dont take up the tickets all go into a ballot.
Fair is fair, make the game accessible to as many fans as possible.
If you want more and more casual fans rather than more devoted regular fans to attend games then fire away and charge through the nose, and slowly watch the atmosphere and buzz around games die week by week, season by season.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Your not listening
At our club we have season ticket holders with 600 + loyalty points who use those points to buy tickets for every away game - they then sell virtually all of those away tickets on, often for a profit whilst banking the loyalty points that come with it.
What that mean is that fans with 300 points can’t grow their points to compete because the 600 pointers have snaffled all the tickets - the 300 pointers then have to buy off the 600 pointers at an increased rate whilst still not getting the loyalty points.
Then the 2019 CL final comes round and that game is the one game the 600 pointers will make the effort for whilst the 300 pointers might have been to 6 times as many games as them that season but haven’t a chance of a ticket.
How is that fair?
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and how does raising the ticket prices combat that ? surely they just do the same thing buyt them at the higher prices and then sell them on for even more.
At the higher price point you eliminate some of your fans instantly touts or not. At least at the lower prices they stil have a chance
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Touts were far less prevalent for away games pre cap. They never bothered paying £45 for Middlesbrough away a decade ago as there was a real chance they wouldn’t make their money back. At £30 it’s far less of a hit and they take their chances as they know at worst they can shift it for £25, take a small loss and pocket the loyalty points and make that money back x20 by selling a ticket to Arsenal away.
Sure it’s not nice pricing people out, but currently Spurs have the same 3,000 people buying all the away tickets to every game and no one else getting a look in unless they buy off a tout - and those 3,000 unbelievably then get loyalty points on top for buying those away tickets - meaning the other fans can never ever catch them up - it’s a closed shop and completely unfair.
If we get 2,000 away tickets, why not do 1000 based on loyalty points, 500 on Ballot and 500 on premium pricing. More fans will get to go to more away games and it will no longer be a closed shop.
Additionally, loyalty points should not be given for going to away games - it’s a privilege to go, their shouldn’t be that additional incentive
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touts bying up all the tickets has only been a major porblem over all forms of activities over the last decade , they just get even more now on top of that ocs the base price increase. so the starting price matters less to them than je blogg cos they far more capital available to buy them in the first price ... the higher the price and more valuable the tickets the more likely touts will get a hold of them.
your loyalty points problem is more of a Spurs problem, none of that exists with my team. and your loyalty points issue is moving further and further away from the point of the OP.
its about overpriced tickets and how the clubs are shafiting the fans.
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posted 2 weeks ago
Yeah but just because you won’t doesn’t mean others won’t.
I bet at even £90 Villa vs Bayern could sell out 2 times over. This is the world we’re in now - it seems expensive but Villa haven’t played that calibre of European opponent in a competitive fixture for decades
posted 2 weeks ago
I don't live in the UK so not sure but don't people pay similar amounts, if not more for a ticket for Taylor Swift, Oasis or a popular West End show ?
posted 2 weeks ago
comment by Striketeam7 - staying humble (U18109)
posted 7 minutes ago
Yeah but just because you won’t doesn’t mean others won’t.
I bet at even £90 Villa vs Bayern could sell out 2 times over. This is the world we’re in now - it seems expensive but Villa haven’t played that calibre of European opponent in a competitive fixture for decades
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there would be people that would pay £300 a ticket for Real Madrid.
People would pay £1000s for a champ league final ticket, does that mean we should price it at that... no chance
posted 2 weeks ago
comnpared to the 19 euros Bayern will be charging some fans for Champ league tickets
posted 2 weeks ago
Sooner or later the reality will bite for football fans. Therres no such thing as a football club and football fans at the top level in the UK. These are business and run as such. You ae therefore a customer and will be treated as such. I don't like it but it is what it is. If you don't like it you are free to go somewhere else. With the globalization of football, there will be someone to take your spot from somebody in some part of the world because the demand far exceeds the supply.
posted 2 weeks ago
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posted 1 minute ago
comnpared to the 19 euros Bayern will be charging some fans for Champ league tickets
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Great example of what happens with supporter ownership model. Those people who bltch about ticket prices are the same people who bltch when privately owned clubs don't spend enough on transfers. You cant have it both ways. You want your owners to take on massive financial risk while keeping tickets as cheap ... sorry, the real world doesn't work like that
posted 2 weeks ago
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posted 9 minutes ago
comnpared to the 19 euros Bayern will be charging some fans for Champ league tickets
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We all know what would happen if Villa had say 5000 tickets being charged at £25 - the fans would buy them and sell them on for treble
Exactly what happens with the £30 away tickets scam.
I’d rather pay the football club £100 for a ticket than a tout £80 as otherwise all I am doing is enabling the tout further.
Now fair distribution of limited tickets is a much better debate - otherwise I massively welcome dynamic pricing
posted 2 weeks ago
comment by Striketeam7 - staying humble (U18109)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 9 minutes ago
comnpared to the 19 euros Bayern will be charging some fans for Champ league tickets
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We all know what would happen if Villa had say 5000 tickets being charged at £25 - the fans would buy them and sell them on for treble
Exactly what happens with the £30 away tickets scam.
I’d rather pay the football club £100 for a ticket than a tout £80 as otherwise all I am doing is enabling the tout further.
Now fair distribution of limited tickets is a much better debate - otherwise I massively welcome dynamic pricing
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na i think most fans would snap they tickets up for themselves .... are you saying this is your expectations of how Spurs fans would act?
I can assure you that wouldnt be the case at my club.
posted 2 weeks ago
besides even if they did charge twice the price of a £25 ticket thats still half price of what is being done now!
posted 2 weeks ago
comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 14 minutes ago
comment by Striketeam7 - staying humble (U18109)
posted 7 minutes ago
Yeah but just because you won’t doesn’t mean others won’t.
I bet at even £90 Villa vs Bayern could sell out 2 times over. This is the world we’re in now - it seems expensive but Villa haven’t played that calibre of European opponent in a competitive fixture for decades
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there would be people that would pay £300 a ticket for Real Madrid.
People would pay £1000s for a champ league final ticket, does that mean we should price it at that... no chance
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What’s the answer though - Spurs get to CL final and demand for tickets is 80,000 strong, but after UEFA have had their cut we’re left with 9,000 tickets - so 71,000 will be disappointed - what’s the fair way to distribute bearing in mind that loyalty points have been a huge scam at top Prem clubs since the £30 away ticket cap was introduced
Ballot seems fair but it would mean that a bloke that has been to every game home and away in a season might miss out to someone who has been twice
Loyalty points - yeah faaaack that. There are parasitic fans who use their existing loyalty points to purchase away tickets and sell them on for double. They go to about 5 home games and flog the rest on as well, but they keep picking up the loyalty points and are therefore top of the pile when cup finals come round - it’s a scam
Dynamic pricing - rules out those that cannot afford it, on the flip side, gives others who save up to got to 2/3 away a season a chance to go to an away game that’s usually a closed shop
posted 2 weeks ago
comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Striketeam7 - staying humble (U18109)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 9 minutes ago
comnpared to the 19 euros Bayern will be charging some fans for Champ league tickets
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We all know what would happen if Villa had say 5000 tickets being charged at £25 - the fans would buy them and sell them on for treble
Exactly what happens with the £30 away tickets scam.
I’d rather pay the football club £100 for a ticket than a tout £80 as otherwise all I am doing is enabling the tout further.
Now fair distribution of limited tickets is a much better debate - otherwise I massively welcome dynamic pricing
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na i think most fans would snap they tickets up for themselves .... are you saying this is your expectations of how Spurs fans would act?
I can assure you that wouldnt be the case at my club.
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I know of fans at Spurs that use their loyalty points to do this and then when the CL final came round they were top of the pile and wanted to go themselves - didn’t fancy going up north for away games though, they just sold those on for profit
posted 2 weeks ago
comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 2 minutes ago
besides even if they did charge twice the price of a £25 ticket thats still half price of what is being done now!
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But that ticket is going to someone who may not even support that team and is enabling touts to continue and potentially stopping a genuine fan getting a ticket through legitimate means.
I find it surprising your all for touting but against clubs charging high prices on a supply and demand basis - bit odd
posted 2 weeks ago
comment by Striketeam7 - staying humble (U18109)
posted 40 seconds ago
comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 14 minutes ago
comment by Striketeam7 - staying humble (U18109)
posted 7 minutes ago
Yeah but just because you won’t doesn’t mean others won’t.
I bet at even £90 Villa vs Bayern could sell out 2 times over. This is the world we’re in now - it seems expensive but Villa haven’t played that calibre of European opponent in a competitive fixture for decades
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there would be people that would pay £300 a ticket for Real Madrid.
People would pay £1000s for a champ league final ticket, does that mean we should price it at that... no chance
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What’s the answer though - Spurs get to CL final and demand for tickets is 80,000 strong, but after UEFA have had their cut we’re left with 9,000 tickets - so 71,000 will be disappointed - what’s the fair way to distribute bearing in mind that loyalty points have been a huge scam at top Prem clubs since the £30 away ticket cap was introduced
Ballot seems fair but it would mean that a bloke that has been to every game home and away in a season might miss out to someone who has been twice
Loyalty points - yeah faaaack that. There are parasitic fans who use their existing loyalty points to purchase away tickets and sell them on for double. They go to about 5 home games and flog the rest on as well, but they keep picking up the loyalty points and are therefore top of the pile when cup finals come round - it’s a scam
Dynamic pricing - rules out those that cannot afford it, on the flip side, gives others who save up to got to 2/3 away a season a chance to go to an away game that’s usually a closed shop
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the answer is make them affordable... what would be the difference in monies earned by the club? 10m a year? thats pittance to the money earned by Spurs, that gets you what, a good players shin pads in the EPL?
Season ticket holders get priority for the tickets the rest and the season ticket holders who dont take up the tickets all go into a ballot.
Fair is fair, make the game accessible to as many fans as possible.
If you want more and more casual fans rather than more devoted regular fans to attend games then fire away and charge through the nose, and slowly watch the atmosphere and buzz around games die week by week, season by season.
posted 2 weeks ago
comment by Striketeam7 - staying humble (U18109)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 2 minutes ago
besides even if they did charge twice the price of a £25 ticket thats still half price of what is being done now!
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But that ticket is going to someone who may not even support that team and is enabling touts to continue and potentially stopping a genuine fan getting a ticket through legitimate means.
I find it surprising your all for touting but against clubs charging high prices on a supply and demand basis - bit odd
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the club are already bypassing many fans and family groups who cant afford them.
posted 2 weeks ago
I never said im all for touting stop taking pi$h i said its prob still better than the current option of not being able to afford them.
posted 2 weeks ago
Id pay 100 for a knockout stage away game at the Bernabeu, Nou Camp etc, certainly wouldn't for a home game.
posted 2 weeks ago
comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 19 minutes ago
comment by Striketeam7 - staying humble (U18109)
posted 40 seconds ago
comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 14 minutes ago
comment by Striketeam7 - staying humble (U18109)
posted 7 minutes ago
Yeah but just because you won’t doesn’t mean others won’t.
I bet at even £90 Villa vs Bayern could sell out 2 times over. This is the world we’re in now - it seems expensive but Villa haven’t played that calibre of European opponent in a competitive fixture for decades
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there would be people that would pay £300 a ticket for Real Madrid.
People would pay £1000s for a champ league final ticket, does that mean we should price it at that... no chance
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What’s the answer though - Spurs get to CL final and demand for tickets is 80,000 strong, but after UEFA have had their cut we’re left with 9,000 tickets - so 71,000 will be disappointed - what’s the fair way to distribute bearing in mind that loyalty points have been a huge scam at top Prem clubs since the £30 away ticket cap was introduced
Ballot seems fair but it would mean that a bloke that has been to every game home and away in a season might miss out to someone who has been twice
Loyalty points - yeah faaaack that. There are parasitic fans who use their existing loyalty points to purchase away tickets and sell them on for double. They go to about 5 home games and flog the rest on as well, but they keep picking up the loyalty points and are therefore top of the pile when cup finals come round - it’s a scam
Dynamic pricing - rules out those that cannot afford it, on the flip side, gives others who save up to got to 2/3 away a season a chance to go to an away game that’s usually a closed shop
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the answer is make them affordable... what would be the difference in monies earned by the club? 10m a year? thats pittance to the money earned by Spurs, that gets you what, a good players shin pads in the EPL?
Season ticket holders get priority for the tickets the rest and the season ticket holders who dont take up the tickets all go into a ballot.
Fair is fair, make the game accessible to as many fans as possible.
If you want more and more casual fans rather than more devoted regular fans to attend games then fire away and charge through the nose, and slowly watch the atmosphere and buzz around games die week by week, season by season.
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Your not listening
At our club we have season ticket holders with 600 + loyalty points who use those points to buy tickets for every away game - they then sell virtually all of those away tickets on, often for a profit whilst banking the loyalty points that come with it.
What that mean is that fans with 300 points can’t grow their points to compete because the 600 pointers have snaffled all the tickets - the 300 pointers then have to buy off the 600 pointers at an increased rate whilst still not getting the loyalty points.
Then the 2019 CL final comes round and that game is the one game the 600 pointers will make the effort for whilst the 300 pointers might have been to 6 times as many games as them that season but haven’t a chance of a ticket.
How is that fair?
posted 2 weeks ago
comment by Shaun M - supercalifragilisticOrtaisatrocious (U9955)
posted 21 minutes ago
Id pay 100 for a knockout stage away game at the Bernabeu, Nou Camp etc, certainly wouldn't for a home game.
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Exactly and the club could still sell it out at twice the price for an away game like that
posted 2 weeks ago
comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 31 minutes ago
I never said im all for touting stop taking pi$h i said its prob still better than the current option of not being able to afford them.
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Why is it better for fans to miss out due to not having enough loyalty points despite going to more games than fans that do have enough loyalty points, than it is for fans to miss out because they cannot afford it?
The end result is the same so what’s the issue with how it is decided?
posted 2 weeks ago
It really depends on the club as well. Villa are a decent sized club but at these prices, it’s extortionate. Fans may buy them and it may even be a sell out but don’t be surprised if some seats are empty.
London clubs seem to charge arm and a leg just for their location, which is a joke in itself. One of the good things about Europe is that football culture is very rich, and for some reason the owners want to adopt this silly American model. It only works in USA because it’s a massive country & its the no 1 economy in the world.
posted 1 week, 6 days ago
comment by Striketeam7 - staying humble (U18109)
posted 16 hours, 2 minutes ago
Yeah but just because you won’t doesn’t mean others won’t.
I bet at even £90 Villa vs Bayern could sell out 2 times over. This is the world we’re in now - it seems expensive but Villa haven’t played that calibre of European opponent in a competitive fixture for decades
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Strikemug, how the devil are you?
and this could have / should have been you paying to see spurs in the CL... well if you were a spurs fan, and not an anti arsenal fan.
you get the big screen in your new stadium to play the arsenal games yet?, you'll at least have something to watch while at your games
AAAAW
(all anti arsenal arent we)
posted 1 week, 6 days ago
comment by Striketeam7 - staying humble (U18109)
posted 16 hours, 4 minutes ago
comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 19 minutes ago
comment by Striketeam7 - staying humble (U18109)
posted 40 seconds ago
comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 14 minutes ago
comment by Striketeam7 - staying humble (U18109)
posted 7 minutes ago
Yeah but just because you won’t doesn’t mean others won’t.
I bet at even £90 Villa vs Bayern could sell out 2 times over. This is the world we’re in now - it seems expensive but Villa haven’t played that calibre of European opponent in a competitive fixture for decades
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there would be people that would pay £300 a ticket for Real Madrid.
People would pay £1000s for a champ league final ticket, does that mean we should price it at that... no chance
----------------------------------------------------------------------
What’s the answer though - Spurs get to CL final and demand for tickets is 80,000 strong, but after UEFA have had their cut we’re left with 9,000 tickets - so 71,000 will be disappointed - what’s the fair way to distribute bearing in mind that loyalty points have been a huge scam at top Prem clubs since the £30 away ticket cap was introduced
Ballot seems fair but it would mean that a bloke that has been to every game home and away in a season might miss out to someone who has been twice
Loyalty points - yeah faaaack that. There are parasitic fans who use their existing loyalty points to purchase away tickets and sell them on for double. They go to about 5 home games and flog the rest on as well, but they keep picking up the loyalty points and are therefore top of the pile when cup finals come round - it’s a scam
Dynamic pricing - rules out those that cannot afford it, on the flip side, gives others who save up to got to 2/3 away a season a chance to go to an away game that’s usually a closed shop
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the answer is make them affordable... what would be the difference in monies earned by the club? 10m a year? thats pittance to the money earned by Spurs, that gets you what, a good players shin pads in the EPL?
Season ticket holders get priority for the tickets the rest and the season ticket holders who dont take up the tickets all go into a ballot.
Fair is fair, make the game accessible to as many fans as possible.
If you want more and more casual fans rather than more devoted regular fans to attend games then fire away and charge through the nose, and slowly watch the atmosphere and buzz around games die week by week, season by season.
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Your not listening
At our club we have season ticket holders with 600 + loyalty points who use those points to buy tickets for every away game - they then sell virtually all of those away tickets on, often for a profit whilst banking the loyalty points that come with it.
What that mean is that fans with 300 points can’t grow their points to compete because the 600 pointers have snaffled all the tickets - the 300 pointers then have to buy off the 600 pointers at an increased rate whilst still not getting the loyalty points.
Then the 2019 CL final comes round and that game is the one game the 600 pointers will make the effort for whilst the 300 pointers might have been to 6 times as many games as them that season but haven’t a chance of a ticket.
How is that fair?
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and how does raising the ticket prices combat that ? surely they just do the same thing buyt them at the higher prices and then sell them on for even more.
At the higher price point you eliminate some of your fans instantly touts or not. At least at the lower prices they stil have a chance
posted 1 week, 6 days ago
comment by The Spanish Italians - Its all coming home again (U21595)
posted 2 hours, 12 minutes ago
comment by Striketeam7 - staying humble (U18109)
posted 16 hours, 2 minutes ago
Yeah but just because you won’t doesn’t mean others won’t.
I bet at even £90 Villa vs Bayern could sell out 2 times over. This is the world we’re in now - it seems expensive but Villa haven’t played that calibre of European opponent in a competitive fixture for decades
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Strikemug, how the devil are you?
and this could have / should have been you paying to see spurs in the CL... well if you were a spurs fan, and not an anti arsenal fan.
you get the big screen in your new stadium to play the arsenal games yet?, you'll at least have something to watch while at your games
AAAAW
(all anti arsenal arent we)
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Who are you?
posted 1 week, 6 days ago
comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 1 hour, 2 minutes ago
comment by Striketeam7 - staying humble (U18109)
posted 16 hours, 4 minutes ago
comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 19 minutes ago
comment by Striketeam7 - staying humble (U18109)
posted 40 seconds ago
comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 14 minutes ago
comment by Striketeam7 - staying humble (U18109)
posted 7 minutes ago
Yeah but just because you won’t doesn’t mean others won’t.
I bet at even £90 Villa vs Bayern could sell out 2 times over. This is the world we’re in now - it seems expensive but Villa haven’t played that calibre of European opponent in a competitive fixture for decades
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there would be people that would pay £300 a ticket for Real Madrid.
People would pay £1000s for a champ league final ticket, does that mean we should price it at that... no chance
----------------------------------------------------------------------
What’s the answer though - Spurs get to CL final and demand for tickets is 80,000 strong, but after UEFA have had their cut we’re left with 9,000 tickets - so 71,000 will be disappointed - what’s the fair way to distribute bearing in mind that loyalty points have been a huge scam at top Prem clubs since the £30 away ticket cap was introduced
Ballot seems fair but it would mean that a bloke that has been to every game home and away in a season might miss out to someone who has been twice
Loyalty points - yeah faaaack that. There are parasitic fans who use their existing loyalty points to purchase away tickets and sell them on for double. They go to about 5 home games and flog the rest on as well, but they keep picking up the loyalty points and are therefore top of the pile when cup finals come round - it’s a scam
Dynamic pricing - rules out those that cannot afford it, on the flip side, gives others who save up to got to 2/3 away a season a chance to go to an away game that’s usually a closed shop
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the answer is make them affordable... what would be the difference in monies earned by the club? 10m a year? thats pittance to the money earned by Spurs, that gets you what, a good players shin pads in the EPL?
Season ticket holders get priority for the tickets the rest and the season ticket holders who dont take up the tickets all go into a ballot.
Fair is fair, make the game accessible to as many fans as possible.
If you want more and more casual fans rather than more devoted regular fans to attend games then fire away and charge through the nose, and slowly watch the atmosphere and buzz around games die week by week, season by season.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Your not listening
At our club we have season ticket holders with 600 + loyalty points who use those points to buy tickets for every away game - they then sell virtually all of those away tickets on, often for a profit whilst banking the loyalty points that come with it.
What that mean is that fans with 300 points can’t grow their points to compete because the 600 pointers have snaffled all the tickets - the 300 pointers then have to buy off the 600 pointers at an increased rate whilst still not getting the loyalty points.
Then the 2019 CL final comes round and that game is the one game the 600 pointers will make the effort for whilst the 300 pointers might have been to 6 times as many games as them that season but haven’t a chance of a ticket.
How is that fair?
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and how does raising the ticket prices combat that ? surely they just do the same thing buyt them at the higher prices and then sell them on for even more.
At the higher price point you eliminate some of your fans instantly touts or not. At least at the lower prices they stil have a chance
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Touts were far less prevalent for away games pre cap. They never bothered paying £45 for Middlesbrough away a decade ago as there was a real chance they wouldn’t make their money back. At £30 it’s far less of a hit and they take their chances as they know at worst they can shift it for £25, take a small loss and pocket the loyalty points and make that money back x20 by selling a ticket to Arsenal away.
Sure it’s not nice pricing people out, but currently Spurs have the same 3,000 people buying all the away tickets to every game and no one else getting a look in unless they buy off a tout - and those 3,000 unbelievably then get loyalty points on top for buying those away tickets - meaning the other fans can never ever catch them up - it’s a closed shop and completely unfair.
If we get 2,000 away tickets, why not do 1000 based on loyalty points, 500 on Ballot and 500 on premium pricing. More fans will get to go to more away games and it will no longer be a closed shop.
Additionally, loyalty points should not be given for going to away games - it’s a privilege to go, their shouldn’t be that additional incentive
posted 1 week, 6 days ago
comment by Striketeam7 - staying humble (U18109)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 1 hour, 2 minutes ago
comment by Striketeam7 - staying humble (U18109)
posted 16 hours, 4 minutes ago
comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 19 minutes ago
comment by Striketeam7 - staying humble (U18109)
posted 40 seconds ago
comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 14 minutes ago
comment by Striketeam7 - staying humble (U18109)
posted 7 minutes ago
Yeah but just because you won’t doesn’t mean others won’t.
I bet at even £90 Villa vs Bayern could sell out 2 times over. This is the world we’re in now - it seems expensive but Villa haven’t played that calibre of European opponent in a competitive fixture for decades
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there would be people that would pay £300 a ticket for Real Madrid.
People would pay £1000s for a champ league final ticket, does that mean we should price it at that... no chance
----------------------------------------------------------------------
What’s the answer though - Spurs get to CL final and demand for tickets is 80,000 strong, but after UEFA have had their cut we’re left with 9,000 tickets - so 71,000 will be disappointed - what’s the fair way to distribute bearing in mind that loyalty points have been a huge scam at top Prem clubs since the £30 away ticket cap was introduced
Ballot seems fair but it would mean that a bloke that has been to every game home and away in a season might miss out to someone who has been twice
Loyalty points - yeah faaaack that. There are parasitic fans who use their existing loyalty points to purchase away tickets and sell them on for double. They go to about 5 home games and flog the rest on as well, but they keep picking up the loyalty points and are therefore top of the pile when cup finals come round - it’s a scam
Dynamic pricing - rules out those that cannot afford it, on the flip side, gives others who save up to got to 2/3 away a season a chance to go to an away game that’s usually a closed shop
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the answer is make them affordable... what would be the difference in monies earned by the club? 10m a year? thats pittance to the money earned by Spurs, that gets you what, a good players shin pads in the EPL?
Season ticket holders get priority for the tickets the rest and the season ticket holders who dont take up the tickets all go into a ballot.
Fair is fair, make the game accessible to as many fans as possible.
If you want more and more casual fans rather than more devoted regular fans to attend games then fire away and charge through the nose, and slowly watch the atmosphere and buzz around games die week by week, season by season.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Your not listening
At our club we have season ticket holders with 600 + loyalty points who use those points to buy tickets for every away game - they then sell virtually all of those away tickets on, often for a profit whilst banking the loyalty points that come with it.
What that mean is that fans with 300 points can’t grow their points to compete because the 600 pointers have snaffled all the tickets - the 300 pointers then have to buy off the 600 pointers at an increased rate whilst still not getting the loyalty points.
Then the 2019 CL final comes round and that game is the one game the 600 pointers will make the effort for whilst the 300 pointers might have been to 6 times as many games as them that season but haven’t a chance of a ticket.
How is that fair?
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and how does raising the ticket prices combat that ? surely they just do the same thing buyt them at the higher prices and then sell them on for even more.
At the higher price point you eliminate some of your fans instantly touts or not. At least at the lower prices they stil have a chance
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Touts were far less prevalent for away games pre cap. They never bothered paying £45 for Middlesbrough away a decade ago as there was a real chance they wouldn’t make their money back. At £30 it’s far less of a hit and they take their chances as they know at worst they can shift it for £25, take a small loss and pocket the loyalty points and make that money back x20 by selling a ticket to Arsenal away.
Sure it’s not nice pricing people out, but currently Spurs have the same 3,000 people buying all the away tickets to every game and no one else getting a look in unless they buy off a tout - and those 3,000 unbelievably then get loyalty points on top for buying those away tickets - meaning the other fans can never ever catch them up - it’s a closed shop and completely unfair.
If we get 2,000 away tickets, why not do 1000 based on loyalty points, 500 on Ballot and 500 on premium pricing. More fans will get to go to more away games and it will no longer be a closed shop.
Additionally, loyalty points should not be given for going to away games - it’s a privilege to go, their shouldn’t be that additional incentive
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touts bying up all the tickets has only been a major porblem over all forms of activities over the last decade , they just get even more now on top of that ocs the base price increase. so the starting price matters less to them than je blogg cos they far more capital available to buy them in the first price ... the higher the price and more valuable the tickets the more likely touts will get a hold of them.
your loyalty points problem is more of a Spurs problem, none of that exists with my team. and your loyalty points issue is moving further and further away from the point of the OP.
its about overpriced tickets and how the clubs are shafiting the fans.
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