posted 1 week, 6 days ago
comment by look like modric (U7431)
posted 8 minutes ago
Romero is gone next year to madrid. One hundred percent. Probably offset by Rudiger going Saudi or something.
We are reducing our base contracts back to what we used to pay so maximum we will pay for anybody is £150,000 unless you are Romero Werner or Son. Romero commands more than that now. I do not see us breaking our newly implented structure for anyone. Unless investment comes.
We also and this is key......have nobody left to sell of any real value, and we will only recoup hojbergs measly fee next summer.
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I love Romero, but if we get £75m it’s a no brainer with Vuskovic coming in. He will be the most replaceable big name player we’ve ever sold in my opinion.
Saying we would have no one of value left to sell is just wrong - VDV would command a hefty fee and Udogie would be worth much more than what we spent. In addition, we allegedly turned down £12m for Mikey Moore in April from Dortmund - if he gets a run in the side and starts scoring he will be worth a fortune.
Gray/Bergvall/Sarr/Odobert could all significantly increase in value this season as well
posted 1 week, 6 days ago
comment by Striketeam7 - staying humble (U18109)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by JustCallMeTed (U21528)
posted 1 hour, 25 minutes ago
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posted 3 hours, 24 minutes ago
comment by JustCallMeTed (U21528)
posted 9 hours, 54 minutes ago
comment by Striketeam7 - staying humble (U18109)
posted 1 hour, 4 minutes ago
Yeah it would be great Ted if we had Olmo, De Bruyne, Rodri and prime Pirlo - unfortunately we don’t and can only pick players actually in our squad.
1 senior player alongside Reguilon had to miss out - they’ve chosen Spence - he was definitely the lowest in terms of managerial trust although Bissouma must be pushing that now and Richarlison never being fit when we need him is faaacking annoying.
We can though in January make changes to the euro squad.
Chelsea have left Cole Palmer out of there Euro squad - can’t blame them they should walk qualifying, that Conference league is an absolute joke
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We don't have such players because Levy wont go for them.
Olmo was available but .....
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Olmo was available but .....
Wanted to go to Barcelona
Sorry we didn’t persuade a Spanish player to play for us rather than Barcelona.
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Always a matter of timing.
When he was playing in Germany was the time to make an offer.
Anyways, the point is....Levy won't go for the best....only the cheapest.
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There was no clamour for him pre the euros. He was a good player at Liepzig but not a great player, not the player we saw at the euros.
Maddison for instance was a far less risky option the summer we got him.
Levy doesn’t go for the best I agree. I like our current strategy though, we’re buying top young players before they are elite - some won’t make it but there are plenty that look like they will to me. This is the Dortmund approach and it’s one Spurs used to use to great affect in the early days.
I just hope Levy sticks to it
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Its just 20:20 hindsight wisdom from Ted.
Basically were not smart because we didnt sign Olmo before he became a big thing (which would have been easier and cheaper than now, right).
Instead we have signed Bergvall (who Barca & Bayern wanted) before he becomes a big thing.
So we should have speculated on an easier and cheaper Olmo a year or 2 ago.
posted 1 week, 6 days ago
comment by Striketeam7 - staying humble (U18109)
posted 16 minutes ago
comment by look like modric (U7431)
posted 8 minutes ago
Romero is gone next year to madrid. One hundred percent. Probably offset by Rudiger going Saudi or something.
We are reducing our base contracts back to what we used to pay so maximum we will pay for anybody is £150,000 unless you are Romero Werner or Son. Romero commands more than that now. I do not see us breaking our newly implented structure for anyone. Unless investment comes.
We also and this is key......have nobody left to sell of any real value, and we will only recoup hojbergs measly fee next summer.
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I love Romero, but if we get £75m it’s a no brainer with Vuskovic coming in. He will be the most replaceable big name player we’ve ever sold in my opinion.
Saying we would have no one of value left to sell is just wrong - VDV would command a hefty fee and Udogie would be worth much more than what we spent. In addition, we allegedly turned down £12m for Mikey Moore in April from Dortmund - if he gets a run in the side and starts scoring he will be worth a fortune.
Gray/Bergvall/Sarr/Odobert could all significantly increase in value this season as well
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I dont think re-sale value matters too much to us.
We obviously dont want to have NDombele situations again but i dont think we buy with re-sale value in mind. We havent bought Solanke for example with a view to getting money on him in the future, if he stays his 5 years, scores 100 goals then its money well spent even if walks away for free.
Romero wasnt cheap but has worked out well and will be worth a lot more. Similarly VVD.
We havent bought Bergvall Gray etc because we can cash in in 4 or 5 years, BUT if they do get poached from us, it will be as they have been a success and we will cash in then, like Bale and Modric.
We have never been a club who spends £70m on a 30yo Casemiro, but that isnt really unusual behaviour for most clubs.
The simple narrative the Levy buys players cheap to cash in on sky high re-sales in the future has never been fully accurate and is nowhere accurate now.
If you look at our Profit made on Player sales (ignoring mega money made from academy kid Kane) then we really do not rely on bringing in big sums each year to balance our books.
Chelsea for example have earned £350m in profit on player trading over 4 seasons (£85m a year). Its an essential revenue to them, even before Boehly. We, comparison, average about £20m a year.
posted 1 week, 6 days ago
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 18 minutes ago
comment by Striketeam7 - staying humble (U18109)
posted 16 minutes ago
comment by look like modric (U7431)
posted 8 minutes ago
Romero is gone next year to madrid. One hundred percent. Probably offset by Rudiger going Saudi or something.
We are reducing our base contracts back to what we used to pay so maximum we will pay for anybody is £150,000 unless you are Romero Werner or Son. Romero commands more than that now. I do not see us breaking our newly implented structure for anyone. Unless investment comes.
We also and this is key......have nobody left to sell of any real value, and we will only recoup hojbergs measly fee next summer.
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I love Romero, but if we get £75m it’s a no brainer with Vuskovic coming in. He will be the most replaceable big name player we’ve ever sold in my opinion.
Saying we would have no one of value left to sell is just wrong - VDV would command a hefty fee and Udogie would be worth much more than what we spent. In addition, we allegedly turned down £12m for Mikey Moore in April from Dortmund - if he gets a run in the side and starts scoring he will be worth a fortune.
Gray/Bergvall/Sarr/Odobert could all significantly increase in value this season as well
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I dont think re-sale value matters too much to us.
We obviously dont want to have NDombele situations again but i dont think we buy with re-sale value in mind. We havent bought Solanke for example with a view to getting money on him in the future, if he stays his 5 years, scores 100 goals then its money well spent even if walks away for free.
Romero wasnt cheap but has worked out well and will be worth a lot more. Similarly VVD.
We havent bought Bergvall Gray etc because we can cash in in 4 or 5 years, BUT if they do get poached from us, it will be as they have been a success and we will cash in then, like Bale and Modric.
We have never been a club who spends £70m on a 30yo Casemiro, but that isnt really unusual behaviour for most clubs.
The simple narrative the Levy buys players cheap to cash in on sky high re-sales in the future has never been fully accurate and is nowhere accurate now.
If you look at our Profit made on Player sales (ignoring mega money made from academy kid Kane) then we really do not rely on bringing in big sums each year to balance our books.
Chelsea for example have earned £350m in profit on player trading over 4 seasons (£85m a year). Its an essential revenue to them, even before Boehly. We, comparison, average about £20m a year.
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Yeah I agree, and what did people complain about when we did cash in on Carrick, Modric and Bale - Spurs can’t keep hold of their best players.
Now we’re buying by players for the here and now, of course we won’t make money on Richy/Solanke/Maddison but they are the here and now players people wanted. So now the complaint is they aren’t Dani Olmo, Mbappe, etc - Spurs don’t buy the best. Spurs can’t attract the best in the Prem, it’s as simple as that. The next best approach as has been proven time and again is to buy the best up and coming players in the hope you land the next Bale/Modric/Kane and try and build a side round them for the future, whilst also buying decent players for the here and now.
We just need to Levy to stay committed
posted 1 week, 6 days ago
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 1 hour, 5 minutes ago
comment by Striketeam7 - staying humble (U18109)
posted 16 minutes ago
comment by look like modric (U7431)
posted 8 minutes ago
Romero is gone next year to madrid. One hundred percent. Probably offset by Rudiger going Saudi or something.
We are reducing our base contracts back to what we used to pay so maximum we will pay for anybody is £150,000 unless you are Romero Werner or Son. Romero commands more than that now. I do not see us breaking our newly implented structure for anyone. Unless investment comes.
We also and this is key......have nobody left to sell of any real value, and we will only recoup hojbergs measly fee next summer.
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I love Romero, but if we get £75m it’s a no brainer with Vuskovic coming in. He will be the most replaceable big name player we’ve ever sold in my opinion.
Saying we would have no one of value left to sell is just wrong - VDV would command a hefty fee and Udogie would be worth much more than what we spent. In addition, we allegedly turned down £12m for Mikey Moore in April from Dortmund - if he gets a run in the side and starts scoring he will be worth a fortune.
Gray/Bergvall/Sarr/Odobert could all significantly increase in value this season as well
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I dont think re-sale value matters too much to us.
We obviously dont want to have NDombele situations again but i dont think we buy with re-sale value in mind. We havent bought Solanke for example with a view to getting money on him in the future, if he stays his 5 years, scores 100 goals then its money well spent even if walks away for free.
Romero wasnt cheap but has worked out well and will be worth a lot more. Similarly VVD.
We havent bought Bergvall Gray etc because we can cash in in 4 or 5 years, BUT if they do get poached from us, it will be as they have been a success and we will cash in then, like Bale and Modric.
We have never been a club who spends £70m on a 30yo Casemiro, but that isnt really unusual behaviour for most clubs.
The simple narrative the Levy buys players cheap to cash in on sky high re-sales in the future has never been fully accurate and is nowhere accurate now.
If you look at our Profit made on Player sales (ignoring mega money made from academy kid Kane) then we really do not rely on bringing in big sums each year to balance our books.
Chelsea for example have earned £350m in profit on player trading over 4 seasons (£85m a year). Its an essential revenue to them, even before Boehly. We, comparison, average about £20m a year.
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Hard to say Levy doesn’t hope for massive players gains. Given he usually holds out for top dollar, but the following were all sold at massive gains:
Kane
Bale
Modric
Carrick
Keane
Berbatov
Wimmer
Walker
Trippier
Even Eriksen, Hjojberg, sigurdson, KWP, Foyth and others were sold at a small profit. If there is a deal to be had Levy usually sells. Especially considering contract durations.
posted 1 week, 6 days ago
And furthermore the ultimate evidence of his approach. Was his willingness to insure a small fee was recouped for Moussa Dembele. Pittance in the grand scheme of things, which imo contributed to a purer PL finish without him in the squad.
posted 1 week, 6 days ago
Poorer*
posted 1 week, 6 days ago
Wimmer?
posted 1 week, 6 days ago
moussa was knackered
posted 1 week, 6 days ago
comment by Dreaming of a Bedsit in Dudley (U23088)
posted 30 seconds ago
Wimmer?
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Whilst obviously we done Sunderland like a kipper. He was bought for 5m sold for 18m. Levy prays every 5m signing works out that way imo
posted 1 week, 6 days ago
some of the worst to let go (other than those who wanted to go):
Defoe
Malbranque
Trippier
posted 1 week, 6 days ago
comment by Dreaming of a Bedsit in Dudley (U23088)
posted 52 seconds ago
moussa was knackered
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Still had 6 months left in him easily. Especially if his games were managed. The squad definitely would’ve been better off for him. Than the 9m or whatever it was in the bank.
posted 1 week, 6 days ago
comment by BelfastSpur (U15068)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 1 hour, 5 minutes ago
comment by Striketeam7 - staying humble (U18109)
posted 16 minutes ago
comment by look like modric (U7431)
posted 8 minutes ago
Romero is gone next year to madrid. One hundred percent. Probably offset by Rudiger going Saudi or something.
We are reducing our base contracts back to what we used to pay so maximum we will pay for anybody is £150,000 unless you are Romero Werner or Son. Romero commands more than that now. I do not see us breaking our newly implented structure for anyone. Unless investment comes.
We also and this is key......have nobody left to sell of any real value, and we will only recoup hojbergs measly fee next summer.
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I love Romero, but if we get £75m it’s a no brainer with Vuskovic coming in. He will be the most replaceable big name player we’ve ever sold in my opinion.
Saying we would have no one of value left to sell is just wrong - VDV would command a hefty fee and Udogie would be worth much more than what we spent. In addition, we allegedly turned down £12m for Mikey Moore in April from Dortmund - if he gets a run in the side and starts scoring he will be worth a fortune.
Gray/Bergvall/Sarr/Odobert could all significantly increase in value this season as well
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I dont think re-sale value matters too much to us.
We obviously dont want to have NDombele situations again but i dont think we buy with re-sale value in mind. We havent bought Solanke for example with a view to getting money on him in the future, if he stays his 5 years, scores 100 goals then its money well spent even if walks away for free.
Romero wasnt cheap but has worked out well and will be worth a lot more. Similarly VVD.
We havent bought Bergvall Gray etc because we can cash in in 4 or 5 years, BUT if they do get poached from us, it will be as they have been a success and we will cash in then, like Bale and Modric.
We have never been a club who spends £70m on a 30yo Casemiro, but that isnt really unusual behaviour for most clubs.
The simple narrative the Levy buys players cheap to cash in on sky high re-sales in the future has never been fully accurate and is nowhere accurate now.
If you look at our Profit made on Player sales (ignoring mega money made from academy kid Kane) then we really do not rely on bringing in big sums each year to balance our books.
Chelsea for example have earned £350m in profit on player trading over 4 seasons (£85m a year). Its an essential revenue to them, even before Boehly. We, comparison, average about £20m a year.
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Hard to say Levy doesn’t hope for massive players gains. Given he usually holds out for top dollar, but the following were all sold at massive gains:
Kane
Bale
Modric
Carrick
Keane
Berbatov
Wimmer
Walker
Trippier
Even Eriksen, Hjojberg, sigurdson, KWP, Foyth and others were sold at a small profit. If there is a deal to be had Levy usually sells. Especially considering contract durations.
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I’m not having Wimmer on that list - faaack me we absolutely had Stokes pants down on that one.
We also bought Keane back when he was more or less finished and made a loss the second time round
Kane we didn’t buy
Bale was an absolute freak
Our policy was to buy the better young players and hope they propelled us to euro football regulars - which worked. We then tried adding more established players to make the CL - Woodgate/Crouch/Bentley
Then when in the CL added proven quality - Vand Der Vaart
It’s a good formula for us, it’s often entertaining and has worked for us
posted 1 week, 6 days ago
comment by BelfastSpur (U15068)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Dreaming of a Bedsit in Dudley (U23088)
posted 30 seconds ago
Wimmer?
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Whilst obviously we done Sunderland like a kipper. He was bought for 5m sold for 18m. Levy prays every 5m signing works out that way imo
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steve bruce wasn't it signed him?
posted 1 week, 6 days ago
comment by Striketeam7 - staying humble (U18109)
posted 28 seconds ago
comment by BelfastSpur (U15068)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 1 hour, 5 minutes ago
comment by Striketeam7 - staying humble (U18109)
posted 16 minutes ago
comment by look like modric (U7431)
posted 8 minutes ago
Romero is gone next year to madrid. One hundred percent. Probably offset by Rudiger going Saudi or something.
We are reducing our base contracts back to what we used to pay so maximum we will pay for anybody is £150,000 unless you are Romero Werner or Son. Romero commands more than that now. I do not see us breaking our newly implented structure for anyone. Unless investment comes.
We also and this is key......have nobody left to sell of any real value, and we will only recoup hojbergs measly fee next summer.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I love Romero, but if we get £75m it’s a no brainer with Vuskovic coming in. He will be the most replaceable big name player we’ve ever sold in my opinion.
Saying we would have no one of value left to sell is just wrong - VDV would command a hefty fee and Udogie would be worth much more than what we spent. In addition, we allegedly turned down £12m for Mikey Moore in April from Dortmund - if he gets a run in the side and starts scoring he will be worth a fortune.
Gray/Bergvall/Sarr/Odobert could all significantly increase in value this season as well
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I dont think re-sale value matters too much to us.
We obviously dont want to have NDombele situations again but i dont think we buy with re-sale value in mind. We havent bought Solanke for example with a view to getting money on him in the future, if he stays his 5 years, scores 100 goals then its money well spent even if walks away for free.
Romero wasnt cheap but has worked out well and will be worth a lot more. Similarly VVD.
We havent bought Bergvall Gray etc because we can cash in in 4 or 5 years, BUT if they do get poached from us, it will be as they have been a success and we will cash in then, like Bale and Modric.
We have never been a club who spends £70m on a 30yo Casemiro, but that isnt really unusual behaviour for most clubs.
The simple narrative the Levy buys players cheap to cash in on sky high re-sales in the future has never been fully accurate and is nowhere accurate now.
If you look at our Profit made on Player sales (ignoring mega money made from academy kid Kane) then we really do not rely on bringing in big sums each year to balance our books.
Chelsea for example have earned £350m in profit on player trading over 4 seasons (£85m a year). Its an essential revenue to them, even before Boehly. We, comparison, average about £20m a year.
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Hard to say Levy doesn’t hope for massive players gains. Given he usually holds out for top dollar, but the following were all sold at massive gains:
Kane
Bale
Modric
Carrick
Keane
Berbatov
Wimmer
Walker
Trippier
Even Eriksen, Hjojberg, sigurdson, KWP, Foyth and others were sold at a small profit. If there is a deal to be had Levy usually sells. Especially considering contract durations.
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I’m not having Wimmer on that list - faaack me we absolutely had Stokes pants down on that one.
We also bought Keane back when he was more or less finished and made a loss the second time round
Kane we didn’t buy
Bale was an absolute freak
Our policy was to buy the better young players and hope they propelled us to euro football regulars - which worked. We then tried adding more established players to make the CL - Woodgate/Crouch/Bentley
Then when in the CL added proven quality - Vand Der Vaart
It’s a good formula for us, it’s often entertaining and has worked for us
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Levy still takes the odd low stakes punt. That has never changed. Solomon is further proof he still can’t resist the small stakes aim at a small gain if the player doesn’t work out. Few of the top clubs take this approach
posted 1 week, 6 days ago
comment by Dreaming of a Bedsit in Dudley (U23088)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by BelfastSpur (U15068)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Dreaming of a Bedsit in Dudley (U23088)
posted 30 seconds ago
Wimmer?
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Whilst obviously we done Sunderland like a kipper. He was bought for 5m sold for 18m. Levy prays every 5m signing works out that way imo
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steve bruce wasn't it signed him?
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I said Sunderland but actually think it was Hughes at Stoke. Tainio and few others were Sunderland and I think Keane was their manager.
posted 1 week, 6 days ago
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posted 4 minutes ago
comment by BelfastSpur (U15068)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Dreaming of a Bedsit in Dudley (U23088)
posted 30 seconds ago
Wimmer?
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Whilst obviously we done Sunderland like a kipper. He was bought for 5m sold for 18m. Levy prays every 5m signing works out that way imo
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steve bruce wasn't it signed him?
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It was Stoke and Pulis
posted 1 week, 6 days ago
comment by Striketeam7 - staying humble (U18109)
posted 11 seconds ago
comment by Dreaming of a Bedsit in Dudley (U23088)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by BelfastSpur (U15068)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Dreaming of a Bedsit in Dudley (U23088)
posted 30 seconds ago
Wimmer?
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Whilst obviously we done Sunderland like a kipper. He was bought for 5m sold for 18m. Levy prays every 5m signing works out that way imo
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steve bruce wasn't it signed him?
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It was Stoke and Pulis
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posted 1 week, 6 days ago
comment by BelfastSpur (U15068)
posted 11 seconds ago
comment by Striketeam7 - staying humble (U18109)
posted 11 seconds ago
comment by Dreaming of a Bedsit in Dudley (U23088)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by BelfastSpur (U15068)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Dreaming of a Bedsit in Dudley (U23088)
posted 30 seconds ago
Wimmer?
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Whilst obviously we done Sunderland like a kipper. He was bought for 5m sold for 18m. Levy prays every 5m signing works out that way imo
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steve bruce wasn't it signed him?
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It was Stoke and Pulis
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Didn’t we buy him because he was Sonny’s best mate? I’m sure that was part of the reasoning.
Still remember when we got that fee for him - utterly gobsmacked, even Levy must have felt a little bad about that one, absolute daylight robbery
posted 1 week, 6 days ago
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posted 11 seconds ago
comment by Striketeam7 - staying humble (U18109)
posted 11 seconds ago
comment by Dreaming of a Bedsit in Dudley (U23088)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by BelfastSpur (U15068)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Dreaming of a Bedsit in Dudley (U23088)
posted 30 seconds ago
Wimmer?
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Whilst obviously we done Sunderland like a kipper. He was bought for 5m sold for 18m. Levy prays every 5m signing works out that way imo
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steve bruce wasn't it signed him?
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It was Stoke and Pulis
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Didn’t we buy him because he was Sonny’s best mate? I’m sure that was part of the reasoning.
Still remember when we got that fee for him - utterly gobsmacked, even Levy must have felt a little bad about that one, absolute daylight robbery
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Tbf he looked solid as Jan’s understudy that first season.
posted 1 week, 6 days ago
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posted 6 minutes ago
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posted 28 seconds ago
comment by BelfastSpur (U15068)
posted 2 minutes ago
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posted 1 hour, 5 minutes ago
comment by Striketeam7 - staying humble (U18109)
posted 16 minutes ago
comment by look like modric (U7431)
posted 8 minutes ago
Romero is gone next year to madrid. One hundred percent. Probably offset by Rudiger going Saudi or something.
We are reducing our base contracts back to what we used to pay so maximum we will pay for anybody is £150,000 unless you are Romero Werner or Son. Romero commands more than that now. I do not see us breaking our newly implented structure for anyone. Unless investment comes.
We also and this is key......have nobody left to sell of any real value, and we will only recoup hojbergs measly fee next summer.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I love Romero, but if we get £75m it’s a no brainer with Vuskovic coming in. He will be the most replaceable big name player we’ve ever sold in my opinion.
Saying we would have no one of value left to sell is just wrong - VDV would command a hefty fee and Udogie would be worth much more than what we spent. In addition, we allegedly turned down £12m for Mikey Moore in April from Dortmund - if he gets a run in the side and starts scoring he will be worth a fortune.
Gray/Bergvall/Sarr/Odobert could all significantly increase in value this season as well
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I dont think re-sale value matters too much to us.
We obviously dont want to have NDombele situations again but i dont think we buy with re-sale value in mind. We havent bought Solanke for example with a view to getting money on him in the future, if he stays his 5 years, scores 100 goals then its money well spent even if walks away for free.
Romero wasnt cheap but has worked out well and will be worth a lot more. Similarly VVD.
We havent bought Bergvall Gray etc because we can cash in in 4 or 5 years, BUT if they do get poached from us, it will be as they have been a success and we will cash in then, like Bale and Modric.
We have never been a club who spends £70m on a 30yo Casemiro, but that isnt really unusual behaviour for most clubs.
The simple narrative the Levy buys players cheap to cash in on sky high re-sales in the future has never been fully accurate and is nowhere accurate now.
If you look at our Profit made on Player sales (ignoring mega money made from academy kid Kane) then we really do not rely on bringing in big sums each year to balance our books.
Chelsea for example have earned £350m in profit on player trading over 4 seasons (£85m a year). Its an essential revenue to them, even before Boehly. We, comparison, average about £20m a year.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Hard to say Levy doesn’t hope for massive players gains. Given he usually holds out for top dollar, but the following were all sold at massive gains:
Kane
Bale
Modric
Carrick
Keane
Berbatov
Wimmer
Walker
Trippier
Even Eriksen, Hjojberg, sigurdson, KWP, Foyth and others were sold at a small profit. If there is a deal to be had Levy usually sells. Especially considering contract durations.
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I’m not having Wimmer on that list - faaack me we absolutely had Stokes pants down on that one.
We also bought Keane back when he was more or less finished and made a loss the second time round
Kane we didn’t buy
Bale was an absolute freak
Our policy was to buy the better young players and hope they propelled us to euro football regulars - which worked. We then tried adding more established players to make the CL - Woodgate/Crouch/Bentley
Then when in the CL added proven quality - Vand Der Vaart
It’s a good formula for us, it’s often entertaining and has worked for us
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Levy still takes the odd low stakes punt. That has never changed. Solomon is further proof he still can’t resist the small stakes aim at a small gain if the player doesn’t work out. Few of the top clubs take this approach
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He does - Njie, Nkoudou are the 2 that immediately spring to mind for me.
At least with Solomon he had both Prem and CL experience. People forget but he did well at Fulham who wanted to keep him but we pinched him for nothing. He was sensational at Burnley away, got injured and missed the rest of ten season and is now out on loan at Leeds.
posted 1 week, 6 days ago
comment by BelfastSpur (U15068)
posted 10 minutes ago
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 1 hour, 5 minutes ago
comment by Striketeam7 - staying humble (U18109)
posted 16 minutes ago
comment by look like modric (U7431)
posted 8 minutes ago
Romero is gone next year to madrid. One hundred percent. Probably offset by Rudiger going Saudi or something.
We are reducing our base contracts back to what we used to pay so maximum we will pay for anybody is £150,000 unless you are Romero Werner or Son. Romero commands more than that now. I do not see us breaking our newly implented structure for anyone. Unless investment comes.
We also and this is key......have nobody left to sell of any real value, and we will only recoup hojbergs measly fee next summer.
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I love Romero, but if we get £75m it’s a no brainer with Vuskovic coming in. He will be the most replaceable big name player we’ve ever sold in my opinion.
Saying we would have no one of value left to sell is just wrong - VDV would command a hefty fee and Udogie would be worth much more than what we spent. In addition, we allegedly turned down £12m for Mikey Moore in April from Dortmund - if he gets a run in the side and starts scoring he will be worth a fortune.
Gray/Bergvall/Sarr/Odobert could all significantly increase in value this season as well
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I dont think re-sale value matters too much to us.
We obviously dont want to have NDombele situations again but i dont think we buy with re-sale value in mind. We havent bought Solanke for example with a view to getting money on him in the future, if he stays his 5 years, scores 100 goals then its money well spent even if walks away for free.
Romero wasnt cheap but has worked out well and will be worth a lot more. Similarly VVD.
We havent bought Bergvall Gray etc because we can cash in in 4 or 5 years, BUT if they do get poached from us, it will be as they have been a success and we will cash in then, like Bale and Modric.
We have never been a club who spends £70m on a 30yo Casemiro, but that isnt really unusual behaviour for most clubs.
The simple narrative the Levy buys players cheap to cash in on sky high re-sales in the future has never been fully accurate and is nowhere accurate now.
If you look at our Profit made on Player sales (ignoring mega money made from academy kid Kane) then we really do not rely on bringing in big sums each year to balance our books.
Chelsea for example have earned £350m in profit on player trading over 4 seasons (£85m a year). Its an essential revenue to them, even before Boehly. We, comparison, average about £20m a year.
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Hard to say Levy doesn’t hope for massive players gains. Given he usually holds out for top dollar, but the following were all sold at massive gains:
Kane
Bale
Modric
Carrick
Keane
Berbatov
Wimmer
Walker
Trippier
Even Eriksen, Hjojberg, sigurdson, KWP, Foyth and others were sold at a small profit. If there is a deal to be had Levy usually sells. Especially considering contract durations.
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But this isnt proof that our purchasing strategy is based on securing a resale fee further down the line.
It is certainly a factor that helps reduce risk but i am sure we would have rather hung on to Bale and Modric etc but sometimes that is impossible.
The Demeble example is also off the mark. He had started something like 4 games in a total of 10 PL appearances and had been injured since early November when he was sold in January. Last year of his contract and we got £11m.
He was not a player we had been able to rely on in 18/19. That deal made total sense. He went to China FFS, that says it all about where his career and form was going. We'd had his best years.
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Wimmer?
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Whilst obviously we done Sunderland like a kipper. He was bought for 5m sold for 18m. Levy prays every 5m signing works out that way imo
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steve bruce wasn't it signed him?
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It was Stoke and Pulis
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Didn’t we buy him because he was Sonny’s best mate? I’m sure that was part of the reasoning.
Still remember when we got that fee for him - utterly gobsmacked, even Levy must have felt a little bad about that one, absolute daylight robbery
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Tbf he looked solid as Jan’s understudy that first season.
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The following year he looked like he had been on the Andy Reid diet
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Wimmer?
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Whilst obviously we done Sunderland like a kipper. He was bought for 5m sold for 18m. Levy prays every 5m signing works out that way imo
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steve bruce wasn't it signed him?
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It was Stoke and Pulis
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Didn’t we buy him because he was Sonny’s best mate? I’m sure that was part of the reasoning.
Still remember when we got that fee for him - utterly gobsmacked, even Levy must have felt a little bad about that one, absolute daylight robbery
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Tbf he looked solid as Jan’s understudy that first season.
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The following year he looked like he had been on the Andy Reid diet
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Too true
Devonshire I still believe Dembele could’ve contributed something that season. But we can agree to disagree on that. But I do agree his powers were dwindling. But if so he should’ve went the August before the January imho
posted 1 week, 6 days ago
If anyone is buying with an eye of future resale then it is Chelsea.
Stock piling kids on long deals, looking to cash in down the line even when they may have spent the whole time on loan and not actually played for CFC.
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Romero is gone next year to madrid. One hundred percent. Probably offset by Rudiger going Saudi or something.
We are reducing our base contracts back to what we used to pay so maximum we will pay for anybody is £150,000 unless you are Romero Werner or Son. Romero commands more than that now. I do not see us breaking our newly implented structure for anyone. Unless investment comes.
We also and this is key......have nobody left to sell of any real value, and we will only recoup hojbergs measly fee next summer.
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I love Romero, but if we get £75m it’s a no brainer with Vuskovic coming in. He will be the most replaceable big name player we’ve ever sold in my opinion.
Saying we would have no one of value left to sell is just wrong - VDV would command a hefty fee and Udogie would be worth much more than what we spent. In addition, we allegedly turned down £12m for Mikey Moore in April from Dortmund - if he gets a run in the side and starts scoring he will be worth a fortune.
Gray/Bergvall/Sarr/Odobert could all significantly increase in value this season as well
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Yeah it would be great Ted if we had Olmo, De Bruyne, Rodri and prime Pirlo - unfortunately we don’t and can only pick players actually in our squad.
1 senior player alongside Reguilon had to miss out - they’ve chosen Spence - he was definitely the lowest in terms of managerial trust although Bissouma must be pushing that now and Richarlison never being fit when we need him is faaacking annoying.
We can though in January make changes to the euro squad.
Chelsea have left Cole Palmer out of there Euro squad - can’t blame them they should walk qualifying, that Conference league is an absolute joke
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We don't have such players because Levy wont go for them.
Olmo was available but .....
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Olmo was available but .....
Wanted to go to Barcelona
Sorry we didn’t persuade a Spanish player to play for us rather than Barcelona.
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Always a matter of timing.
When he was playing in Germany was the time to make an offer.
Anyways, the point is....Levy won't go for the best....only the cheapest.
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There was no clamour for him pre the euros. He was a good player at Liepzig but not a great player, not the player we saw at the euros.
Maddison for instance was a far less risky option the summer we got him.
Levy doesn’t go for the best I agree. I like our current strategy though, we’re buying top young players before they are elite - some won’t make it but there are plenty that look like they will to me. This is the Dortmund approach and it’s one Spurs used to use to great affect in the early days.
I just hope Levy sticks to it
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Its just 20:20 hindsight wisdom from Ted.
Basically were not smart because we didnt sign Olmo before he became a big thing (which would have been easier and cheaper than now, right).
Instead we have signed Bergvall (who Barca & Bayern wanted) before he becomes a big thing.
So we should have speculated on an easier and cheaper Olmo a year or 2 ago.
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posted 8 minutes ago
Romero is gone next year to madrid. One hundred percent. Probably offset by Rudiger going Saudi or something.
We are reducing our base contracts back to what we used to pay so maximum we will pay for anybody is £150,000 unless you are Romero Werner or Son. Romero commands more than that now. I do not see us breaking our newly implented structure for anyone. Unless investment comes.
We also and this is key......have nobody left to sell of any real value, and we will only recoup hojbergs measly fee next summer.
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I love Romero, but if we get £75m it’s a no brainer with Vuskovic coming in. He will be the most replaceable big name player we’ve ever sold in my opinion.
Saying we would have no one of value left to sell is just wrong - VDV would command a hefty fee and Udogie would be worth much more than what we spent. In addition, we allegedly turned down £12m for Mikey Moore in April from Dortmund - if he gets a run in the side and starts scoring he will be worth a fortune.
Gray/Bergvall/Sarr/Odobert could all significantly increase in value this season as well
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I dont think re-sale value matters too much to us.
We obviously dont want to have NDombele situations again but i dont think we buy with re-sale value in mind. We havent bought Solanke for example with a view to getting money on him in the future, if he stays his 5 years, scores 100 goals then its money well spent even if walks away for free.
Romero wasnt cheap but has worked out well and will be worth a lot more. Similarly VVD.
We havent bought Bergvall Gray etc because we can cash in in 4 or 5 years, BUT if they do get poached from us, it will be as they have been a success and we will cash in then, like Bale and Modric.
We have never been a club who spends £70m on a 30yo Casemiro, but that isnt really unusual behaviour for most clubs.
The simple narrative the Levy buys players cheap to cash in on sky high re-sales in the future has never been fully accurate and is nowhere accurate now.
If you look at our Profit made on Player sales (ignoring mega money made from academy kid Kane) then we really do not rely on bringing in big sums each year to balance our books.
Chelsea for example have earned £350m in profit on player trading over 4 seasons (£85m a year). Its an essential revenue to them, even before Boehly. We, comparison, average about £20m a year.
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posted 8 minutes ago
Romero is gone next year to madrid. One hundred percent. Probably offset by Rudiger going Saudi or something.
We are reducing our base contracts back to what we used to pay so maximum we will pay for anybody is £150,000 unless you are Romero Werner or Son. Romero commands more than that now. I do not see us breaking our newly implented structure for anyone. Unless investment comes.
We also and this is key......have nobody left to sell of any real value, and we will only recoup hojbergs measly fee next summer.
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I love Romero, but if we get £75m it’s a no brainer with Vuskovic coming in. He will be the most replaceable big name player we’ve ever sold in my opinion.
Saying we would have no one of value left to sell is just wrong - VDV would command a hefty fee and Udogie would be worth much more than what we spent. In addition, we allegedly turned down £12m for Mikey Moore in April from Dortmund - if he gets a run in the side and starts scoring he will be worth a fortune.
Gray/Bergvall/Sarr/Odobert could all significantly increase in value this season as well
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I dont think re-sale value matters too much to us.
We obviously dont want to have NDombele situations again but i dont think we buy with re-sale value in mind. We havent bought Solanke for example with a view to getting money on him in the future, if he stays his 5 years, scores 100 goals then its money well spent even if walks away for free.
Romero wasnt cheap but has worked out well and will be worth a lot more. Similarly VVD.
We havent bought Bergvall Gray etc because we can cash in in 4 or 5 years, BUT if they do get poached from us, it will be as they have been a success and we will cash in then, like Bale and Modric.
We have never been a club who spends £70m on a 30yo Casemiro, but that isnt really unusual behaviour for most clubs.
The simple narrative the Levy buys players cheap to cash in on sky high re-sales in the future has never been fully accurate and is nowhere accurate now.
If you look at our Profit made on Player sales (ignoring mega money made from academy kid Kane) then we really do not rely on bringing in big sums each year to balance our books.
Chelsea for example have earned £350m in profit on player trading over 4 seasons (£85m a year). Its an essential revenue to them, even before Boehly. We, comparison, average about £20m a year.
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Yeah I agree, and what did people complain about when we did cash in on Carrick, Modric and Bale - Spurs can’t keep hold of their best players.
Now we’re buying by players for the here and now, of course we won’t make money on Richy/Solanke/Maddison but they are the here and now players people wanted. So now the complaint is they aren’t Dani Olmo, Mbappe, etc - Spurs don’t buy the best. Spurs can’t attract the best in the Prem, it’s as simple as that. The next best approach as has been proven time and again is to buy the best up and coming players in the hope you land the next Bale/Modric/Kane and try and build a side round them for the future, whilst also buying decent players for the here and now.
We just need to Levy to stay committed
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posted 8 minutes ago
Romero is gone next year to madrid. One hundred percent. Probably offset by Rudiger going Saudi or something.
We are reducing our base contracts back to what we used to pay so maximum we will pay for anybody is £150,000 unless you are Romero Werner or Son. Romero commands more than that now. I do not see us breaking our newly implented structure for anyone. Unless investment comes.
We also and this is key......have nobody left to sell of any real value, and we will only recoup hojbergs measly fee next summer.
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I love Romero, but if we get £75m it’s a no brainer with Vuskovic coming in. He will be the most replaceable big name player we’ve ever sold in my opinion.
Saying we would have no one of value left to sell is just wrong - VDV would command a hefty fee and Udogie would be worth much more than what we spent. In addition, we allegedly turned down £12m for Mikey Moore in April from Dortmund - if he gets a run in the side and starts scoring he will be worth a fortune.
Gray/Bergvall/Sarr/Odobert could all significantly increase in value this season as well
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I dont think re-sale value matters too much to us.
We obviously dont want to have NDombele situations again but i dont think we buy with re-sale value in mind. We havent bought Solanke for example with a view to getting money on him in the future, if he stays his 5 years, scores 100 goals then its money well spent even if walks away for free.
Romero wasnt cheap but has worked out well and will be worth a lot more. Similarly VVD.
We havent bought Bergvall Gray etc because we can cash in in 4 or 5 years, BUT if they do get poached from us, it will be as they have been a success and we will cash in then, like Bale and Modric.
We have never been a club who spends £70m on a 30yo Casemiro, but that isnt really unusual behaviour for most clubs.
The simple narrative the Levy buys players cheap to cash in on sky high re-sales in the future has never been fully accurate and is nowhere accurate now.
If you look at our Profit made on Player sales (ignoring mega money made from academy kid Kane) then we really do not rely on bringing in big sums each year to balance our books.
Chelsea for example have earned £350m in profit on player trading over 4 seasons (£85m a year). Its an essential revenue to them, even before Boehly. We, comparison, average about £20m a year.
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Hard to say Levy doesn’t hope for massive players gains. Given he usually holds out for top dollar, but the following were all sold at massive gains:
Kane
Bale
Modric
Carrick
Keane
Berbatov
Wimmer
Walker
Trippier
Even Eriksen, Hjojberg, sigurdson, KWP, Foyth and others were sold at a small profit. If there is a deal to be had Levy usually sells. Especially considering contract durations.
posted 1 week, 6 days ago
And furthermore the ultimate evidence of his approach. Was his willingness to insure a small fee was recouped for Moussa Dembele. Pittance in the grand scheme of things, which imo contributed to a purer PL finish without him in the squad.
posted 1 week, 6 days ago
Poorer*
posted 1 week, 6 days ago
Wimmer?
posted 1 week, 6 days ago
moussa was knackered
posted 1 week, 6 days ago
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posted 30 seconds ago
Wimmer?
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Whilst obviously we done Sunderland like a kipper. He was bought for 5m sold for 18m. Levy prays every 5m signing works out that way imo
posted 1 week, 6 days ago
some of the worst to let go (other than those who wanted to go):
Defoe
Malbranque
Trippier
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moussa was knackered
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Still had 6 months left in him easily. Especially if his games were managed. The squad definitely would’ve been better off for him. Than the 9m or whatever it was in the bank.
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posted 8 minutes ago
Romero is gone next year to madrid. One hundred percent. Probably offset by Rudiger going Saudi or something.
We are reducing our base contracts back to what we used to pay so maximum we will pay for anybody is £150,000 unless you are Romero Werner or Son. Romero commands more than that now. I do not see us breaking our newly implented structure for anyone. Unless investment comes.
We also and this is key......have nobody left to sell of any real value, and we will only recoup hojbergs measly fee next summer.
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I love Romero, but if we get £75m it’s a no brainer with Vuskovic coming in. He will be the most replaceable big name player we’ve ever sold in my opinion.
Saying we would have no one of value left to sell is just wrong - VDV would command a hefty fee and Udogie would be worth much more than what we spent. In addition, we allegedly turned down £12m for Mikey Moore in April from Dortmund - if he gets a run in the side and starts scoring he will be worth a fortune.
Gray/Bergvall/Sarr/Odobert could all significantly increase in value this season as well
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I dont think re-sale value matters too much to us.
We obviously dont want to have NDombele situations again but i dont think we buy with re-sale value in mind. We havent bought Solanke for example with a view to getting money on him in the future, if he stays his 5 years, scores 100 goals then its money well spent even if walks away for free.
Romero wasnt cheap but has worked out well and will be worth a lot more. Similarly VVD.
We havent bought Bergvall Gray etc because we can cash in in 4 or 5 years, BUT if they do get poached from us, it will be as they have been a success and we will cash in then, like Bale and Modric.
We have never been a club who spends £70m on a 30yo Casemiro, but that isnt really unusual behaviour for most clubs.
The simple narrative the Levy buys players cheap to cash in on sky high re-sales in the future has never been fully accurate and is nowhere accurate now.
If you look at our Profit made on Player sales (ignoring mega money made from academy kid Kane) then we really do not rely on bringing in big sums each year to balance our books.
Chelsea for example have earned £350m in profit on player trading over 4 seasons (£85m a year). Its an essential revenue to them, even before Boehly. We, comparison, average about £20m a year.
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Hard to say Levy doesn’t hope for massive players gains. Given he usually holds out for top dollar, but the following were all sold at massive gains:
Kane
Bale
Modric
Carrick
Keane
Berbatov
Wimmer
Walker
Trippier
Even Eriksen, Hjojberg, sigurdson, KWP, Foyth and others were sold at a small profit. If there is a deal to be had Levy usually sells. Especially considering contract durations.
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I’m not having Wimmer on that list - faaack me we absolutely had Stokes pants down on that one.
We also bought Keane back when he was more or less finished and made a loss the second time round
Kane we didn’t buy
Bale was an absolute freak
Our policy was to buy the better young players and hope they propelled us to euro football regulars - which worked. We then tried adding more established players to make the CL - Woodgate/Crouch/Bentley
Then when in the CL added proven quality - Vand Der Vaart
It’s a good formula for us, it’s often entertaining and has worked for us
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posted 1 minute ago
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posted 30 seconds ago
Wimmer?
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Whilst obviously we done Sunderland like a kipper. He was bought for 5m sold for 18m. Levy prays every 5m signing works out that way imo
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steve bruce wasn't it signed him?
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posted 8 minutes ago
Romero is gone next year to madrid. One hundred percent. Probably offset by Rudiger going Saudi or something.
We are reducing our base contracts back to what we used to pay so maximum we will pay for anybody is £150,000 unless you are Romero Werner or Son. Romero commands more than that now. I do not see us breaking our newly implented structure for anyone. Unless investment comes.
We also and this is key......have nobody left to sell of any real value, and we will only recoup hojbergs measly fee next summer.
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I love Romero, but if we get £75m it’s a no brainer with Vuskovic coming in. He will be the most replaceable big name player we’ve ever sold in my opinion.
Saying we would have no one of value left to sell is just wrong - VDV would command a hefty fee and Udogie would be worth much more than what we spent. In addition, we allegedly turned down £12m for Mikey Moore in April from Dortmund - if he gets a run in the side and starts scoring he will be worth a fortune.
Gray/Bergvall/Sarr/Odobert could all significantly increase in value this season as well
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I dont think re-sale value matters too much to us.
We obviously dont want to have NDombele situations again but i dont think we buy with re-sale value in mind. We havent bought Solanke for example with a view to getting money on him in the future, if he stays his 5 years, scores 100 goals then its money well spent even if walks away for free.
Romero wasnt cheap but has worked out well and will be worth a lot more. Similarly VVD.
We havent bought Bergvall Gray etc because we can cash in in 4 or 5 years, BUT if they do get poached from us, it will be as they have been a success and we will cash in then, like Bale and Modric.
We have never been a club who spends £70m on a 30yo Casemiro, but that isnt really unusual behaviour for most clubs.
The simple narrative the Levy buys players cheap to cash in on sky high re-sales in the future has never been fully accurate and is nowhere accurate now.
If you look at our Profit made on Player sales (ignoring mega money made from academy kid Kane) then we really do not rely on bringing in big sums each year to balance our books.
Chelsea for example have earned £350m in profit on player trading over 4 seasons (£85m a year). Its an essential revenue to them, even before Boehly. We, comparison, average about £20m a year.
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Hard to say Levy doesn’t hope for massive players gains. Given he usually holds out for top dollar, but the following were all sold at massive gains:
Kane
Bale
Modric
Carrick
Keane
Berbatov
Wimmer
Walker
Trippier
Even Eriksen, Hjojberg, sigurdson, KWP, Foyth and others were sold at a small profit. If there is a deal to be had Levy usually sells. Especially considering contract durations.
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I’m not having Wimmer on that list - faaack me we absolutely had Stokes pants down on that one.
We also bought Keane back when he was more or less finished and made a loss the second time round
Kane we didn’t buy
Bale was an absolute freak
Our policy was to buy the better young players and hope they propelled us to euro football regulars - which worked. We then tried adding more established players to make the CL - Woodgate/Crouch/Bentley
Then when in the CL added proven quality - Vand Der Vaart
It’s a good formula for us, it’s often entertaining and has worked for us
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Levy still takes the odd low stakes punt. That has never changed. Solomon is further proof he still can’t resist the small stakes aim at a small gain if the player doesn’t work out. Few of the top clubs take this approach
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posted 30 seconds ago
Wimmer?
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Whilst obviously we done Sunderland like a kipper. He was bought for 5m sold for 18m. Levy prays every 5m signing works out that way imo
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steve bruce wasn't it signed him?
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I said Sunderland but actually think it was Hughes at Stoke. Tainio and few others were Sunderland and I think Keane was their manager.
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Wimmer?
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Whilst obviously we done Sunderland like a kipper. He was bought for 5m sold for 18m. Levy prays every 5m signing works out that way imo
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steve bruce wasn't it signed him?
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It was Stoke and Pulis
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Wimmer?
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Whilst obviously we done Sunderland like a kipper. He was bought for 5m sold for 18m. Levy prays every 5m signing works out that way imo
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steve bruce wasn't it signed him?
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It was Stoke and Pulis
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Wimmer?
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Whilst obviously we done Sunderland like a kipper. He was bought for 5m sold for 18m. Levy prays every 5m signing works out that way imo
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steve bruce wasn't it signed him?
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It was Stoke and Pulis
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Didn’t we buy him because he was Sonny’s best mate? I’m sure that was part of the reasoning.
Still remember when we got that fee for him - utterly gobsmacked, even Levy must have felt a little bad about that one, absolute daylight robbery
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comment by BelfastSpur (U15068)
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comment by Dreaming of a Bedsit in Dudley (U23088)
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Wimmer?
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Whilst obviously we done Sunderland like a kipper. He was bought for 5m sold for 18m. Levy prays every 5m signing works out that way imo
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steve bruce wasn't it signed him?
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It was Stoke and Pulis
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Didn’t we buy him because he was Sonny’s best mate? I’m sure that was part of the reasoning.
Still remember when we got that fee for him - utterly gobsmacked, even Levy must have felt a little bad about that one, absolute daylight robbery
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Tbf he looked solid as Jan’s understudy that first season.
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comment by look like modric (U7431)
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Romero is gone next year to madrid. One hundred percent. Probably offset by Rudiger going Saudi or something.
We are reducing our base contracts back to what we used to pay so maximum we will pay for anybody is £150,000 unless you are Romero Werner or Son. Romero commands more than that now. I do not see us breaking our newly implented structure for anyone. Unless investment comes.
We also and this is key......have nobody left to sell of any real value, and we will only recoup hojbergs measly fee next summer.
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I love Romero, but if we get £75m it’s a no brainer with Vuskovic coming in. He will be the most replaceable big name player we’ve ever sold in my opinion.
Saying we would have no one of value left to sell is just wrong - VDV would command a hefty fee and Udogie would be worth much more than what we spent. In addition, we allegedly turned down £12m for Mikey Moore in April from Dortmund - if he gets a run in the side and starts scoring he will be worth a fortune.
Gray/Bergvall/Sarr/Odobert could all significantly increase in value this season as well
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I dont think re-sale value matters too much to us.
We obviously dont want to have NDombele situations again but i dont think we buy with re-sale value in mind. We havent bought Solanke for example with a view to getting money on him in the future, if he stays his 5 years, scores 100 goals then its money well spent even if walks away for free.
Romero wasnt cheap but has worked out well and will be worth a lot more. Similarly VVD.
We havent bought Bergvall Gray etc because we can cash in in 4 or 5 years, BUT if they do get poached from us, it will be as they have been a success and we will cash in then, like Bale and Modric.
We have never been a club who spends £70m on a 30yo Casemiro, but that isnt really unusual behaviour for most clubs.
The simple narrative the Levy buys players cheap to cash in on sky high re-sales in the future has never been fully accurate and is nowhere accurate now.
If you look at our Profit made on Player sales (ignoring mega money made from academy kid Kane) then we really do not rely on bringing in big sums each year to balance our books.
Chelsea for example have earned £350m in profit on player trading over 4 seasons (£85m a year). Its an essential revenue to them, even before Boehly. We, comparison, average about £20m a year.
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Hard to say Levy doesn’t hope for massive players gains. Given he usually holds out for top dollar, but the following were all sold at massive gains:
Kane
Bale
Modric
Carrick
Keane
Berbatov
Wimmer
Walker
Trippier
Even Eriksen, Hjojberg, sigurdson, KWP, Foyth and others were sold at a small profit. If there is a deal to be had Levy usually sells. Especially considering contract durations.
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I’m not having Wimmer on that list - faaack me we absolutely had Stokes pants down on that one.
We also bought Keane back when he was more or less finished and made a loss the second time round
Kane we didn’t buy
Bale was an absolute freak
Our policy was to buy the better young players and hope they propelled us to euro football regulars - which worked. We then tried adding more established players to make the CL - Woodgate/Crouch/Bentley
Then when in the CL added proven quality - Vand Der Vaart
It’s a good formula for us, it’s often entertaining and has worked for us
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Levy still takes the odd low stakes punt. That has never changed. Solomon is further proof he still can’t resist the small stakes aim at a small gain if the player doesn’t work out. Few of the top clubs take this approach
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He does - Njie, Nkoudou are the 2 that immediately spring to mind for me.
At least with Solomon he had both Prem and CL experience. People forget but he did well at Fulham who wanted to keep him but we pinched him for nothing. He was sensational at Burnley away, got injured and missed the rest of ten season and is now out on loan at Leeds.
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comment by BelfastSpur (U15068)
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comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
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comment by Striketeam7 - staying humble (U18109)
posted 16 minutes ago
comment by look like modric (U7431)
posted 8 minutes ago
Romero is gone next year to madrid. One hundred percent. Probably offset by Rudiger going Saudi or something.
We are reducing our base contracts back to what we used to pay so maximum we will pay for anybody is £150,000 unless you are Romero Werner or Son. Romero commands more than that now. I do not see us breaking our newly implented structure for anyone. Unless investment comes.
We also and this is key......have nobody left to sell of any real value, and we will only recoup hojbergs measly fee next summer.
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I love Romero, but if we get £75m it’s a no brainer with Vuskovic coming in. He will be the most replaceable big name player we’ve ever sold in my opinion.
Saying we would have no one of value left to sell is just wrong - VDV would command a hefty fee and Udogie would be worth much more than what we spent. In addition, we allegedly turned down £12m for Mikey Moore in April from Dortmund - if he gets a run in the side and starts scoring he will be worth a fortune.
Gray/Bergvall/Sarr/Odobert could all significantly increase in value this season as well
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I dont think re-sale value matters too much to us.
We obviously dont want to have NDombele situations again but i dont think we buy with re-sale value in mind. We havent bought Solanke for example with a view to getting money on him in the future, if he stays his 5 years, scores 100 goals then its money well spent even if walks away for free.
Romero wasnt cheap but has worked out well and will be worth a lot more. Similarly VVD.
We havent bought Bergvall Gray etc because we can cash in in 4 or 5 years, BUT if they do get poached from us, it will be as they have been a success and we will cash in then, like Bale and Modric.
We have never been a club who spends £70m on a 30yo Casemiro, but that isnt really unusual behaviour for most clubs.
The simple narrative the Levy buys players cheap to cash in on sky high re-sales in the future has never been fully accurate and is nowhere accurate now.
If you look at our Profit made on Player sales (ignoring mega money made from academy kid Kane) then we really do not rely on bringing in big sums each year to balance our books.
Chelsea for example have earned £350m in profit on player trading over 4 seasons (£85m a year). Its an essential revenue to them, even before Boehly. We, comparison, average about £20m a year.
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Hard to say Levy doesn’t hope for massive players gains. Given he usually holds out for top dollar, but the following were all sold at massive gains:
Kane
Bale
Modric
Carrick
Keane
Berbatov
Wimmer
Walker
Trippier
Even Eriksen, Hjojberg, sigurdson, KWP, Foyth and others were sold at a small profit. If there is a deal to be had Levy usually sells. Especially considering contract durations.
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But this isnt proof that our purchasing strategy is based on securing a resale fee further down the line.
It is certainly a factor that helps reduce risk but i am sure we would have rather hung on to Bale and Modric etc but sometimes that is impossible.
The Demeble example is also off the mark. He had started something like 4 games in a total of 10 PL appearances and had been injured since early November when he was sold in January. Last year of his contract and we got £11m.
He was not a player we had been able to rely on in 18/19. That deal made total sense. He went to China FFS, that says it all about where his career and form was going. We'd had his best years.
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comment by Striketeam7 - staying humble (U18109)
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comment by Dreaming of a Bedsit in Dudley (U23088)
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comment by BelfastSpur (U15068)
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comment by Dreaming of a Bedsit in Dudley (U23088)
posted 30 seconds ago
Wimmer?
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Whilst obviously we done Sunderland like a kipper. He was bought for 5m sold for 18m. Levy prays every 5m signing works out that way imo
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steve bruce wasn't it signed him?
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It was Stoke and Pulis
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Didn’t we buy him because he was Sonny’s best mate? I’m sure that was part of the reasoning.
Still remember when we got that fee for him - utterly gobsmacked, even Levy must have felt a little bad about that one, absolute daylight robbery
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Tbf he looked solid as Jan’s understudy that first season.
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The following year he looked like he had been on the Andy Reid diet
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comment by Striketeam7 - staying humble (U18109)
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comment by Dreaming of a Bedsit in Dudley (U23088)
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comment by BelfastSpur (U15068)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Dreaming of a Bedsit in Dudley (U23088)
posted 30 seconds ago
Wimmer?
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Whilst obviously we done Sunderland like a kipper. He was bought for 5m sold for 18m. Levy prays every 5m signing works out that way imo
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steve bruce wasn't it signed him?
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It was Stoke and Pulis
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Didn’t we buy him because he was Sonny’s best mate? I’m sure that was part of the reasoning.
Still remember when we got that fee for him - utterly gobsmacked, even Levy must have felt a little bad about that one, absolute daylight robbery
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Tbf he looked solid as Jan’s understudy that first season.
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The following year he looked like he had been on the Andy Reid diet
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Too true
Devonshire I still believe Dembele could’ve contributed something that season. But we can agree to disagree on that. But I do agree his powers were dwindling. But if so he should’ve went the August before the January imho
posted 1 week, 6 days ago
If anyone is buying with an eye of future resale then it is Chelsea.
Stock piling kids on long deals, looking to cash in down the line even when they may have spent the whole time on loan and not actually played for CFC.
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