"Tend to agree with this. Any complaints the FA will have received will likely just be a collection of Twitter's ever increasing mob of narcissistic, virtue signallers. I doubt they were actually offended. They just wanted to be the first to call foul play."
Abhorrent take. Just because your sheltered white self didn't take offence to this, doesn't mean you get to dictate what other people do or don't take offence to.
I would happily leave that to the Asian community to decide.
comment by Sydney Sweeney (U11781)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Calafiori knows how to Partey (U21076)
posted 5 minutes ago
Suarez got 8 matches I think so it's a bit of a slam dunk tbh.
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Yeah but saying what Bents said, and using the N-word, slightly different ends of a scale of offence.
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It’s still racism, there’s no limit on it. Not surprised a Tory cuuuunt like you is excusing racism though.
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Not denying its racism you simpleton.
The very fact that there is a sliding scale of punishment supports my point that racism can cause offence at different levels.
Saying the Scots are ginger and pasty could be called racist. I can think of far worse incidents of racism which will get you arrested and jailed, let alone charged by the FA.
comment by Robbing Hoody - keepy up arbiter. Don’t ... (U6374)
posted 12 minutes ago
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Calafiori knows how to Partey (U21076)
posted 5 minutes ago
Suarez got 8 matches I think so it's a bit of a slam dunk tbh.
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Yeah but saying what Bents said, and using the N-word, slightly different ends of a scale of offence.
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Same end of the racism scale though
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Well seeing as Bentancur has admitted his error, and apologised for what he said say it all really. Poor judgement by him.
But at least he has been big enough and self aware enough to admit this, rather than deny it and have the team take to the pitch on Sunday with Bentancur T-shirts on.
Tory southerner Devon trying to excuse R A C I S M yet again
didnt happen on the pitch though
he should just be banned from speaking not playing
comment by Robbing Hoody - keepy up arbiter. Don’t ... (U6374)
posted 5 minutes ago
Tory southerner Devon trying to excuse R A C I S M yet again
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I am not condoning what Bents has said whatsoever you clown so grow up.
I remember how much the scouse fans moaned and cried conspiracy when Suarez was found guilty. Hoody being one at the front of that queue on here. Fackin embarrassing that was!
comment by Edinspur (U1109)
posted 9 minutes ago
"Tend to agree with this. Any complaints the FA will have received will likely just be a collection of Twitter's ever increasing mob of narcissistic, virtue signallers. I doubt they were actually offended. They just wanted to be the first to call foul play."
Abhorrent take. Just because your sheltered white self didn't take offence to this, doesn't mean you get to dictate what other people do or don't take offence to.
I would happily leave that to the Asian community to decide.
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I wonder how many Asians actually made up that collection of complaints? Don't get me wrong, there's validity to the claims, of course there is, but a large portion of those complaining could just as easily be rival club fans with a completely different ethnic background to those who 'should' technically be offended.
The world isn't prepared to discuss grey area anymore. Debate has disappeared. For instance, if my nan said something mildly racist in her 90s, it's not great but it's a product of her background and a different time. It's completely different to someone in their 20s doing the same thing. No one wants to talk about that. Everything is very linear and black or white, so to speak.
In this instance, Bentancur, with his background and the norms of his country, is basically my nan in that comparison. I'm not saying it's forgivable but the idea that you throw the book at someone no matter where they're from seems harsh to me.
If this were a blanket punishment for everyone though, I'd understand a little more but how can we see a punishment of this kind, yet Enzo get nothing for his chanting? That's where there's a problem.
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Robbing Hoody - keepy up arbiter. Don’t ... (U6374)
posted 5 minutes ago
Tory southerner Devon trying to excuse R A C I S M yet again
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I am not condoning what Bents has said whatsoever you clown so grow up.
I remember how much the scouse fans moaned and cried conspiracy when Suarez was found guilty. Hoody being one at the front of that queue on here. Fackin embarrassing that was!
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And now onto whattaboutery… shameful.
To this day I still don't get how John Terry got away with just a 4 match ban if the FA law guides on a 6 to 12 match punishment
comment by Robbing Hoody - keepy up arbiter. Don’t talk to me unless you can do ten (U6374)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Robbing Hoody - keepy up arbiter. Don’t ... (U6374)
posted 5 minutes ago
Tory southerner Devon trying to excuse R A C I S M yet again
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I am not condoning what Bents has said whatsoever you clown so grow up.
I remember how much the scouse fans moaned and cried conspiracy when Suarez was found guilty. Hoody being one at the front of that queue on here. Fackin embarrassing that was!
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And now onto whattaboutery… shameful.
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Your "whataboutery" claim would hold some substance if you weren't the one defining hypocrisy in such a way. You're in no position to hold other fans to account. Pizz off back to your own club.
comment by fridgeboy (U1053)
posted 26 seconds ago
comment by Robbing Hoody - keepy up arbiter. Don’t talk to me unless you can do ten (U6374)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Robbing Hoody - keepy up arbiter. Don’t ... (U6374)
posted 5 minutes ago
Tory southerner Devon trying to excuse R A C I S M yet again
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I am not condoning what Bents has said whatsoever you clown so grow up.
I remember how much the scouse fans moaned and cried conspiracy when Suarez was found guilty. Hoody being one at the front of that queue on here. Fackin embarrassing that was!
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And now onto whattaboutery… shameful.
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Your "whataboutery" claim would hold some substance if you weren't the one defining hypocrisy in such a way. You're in no position to hold other fans to account. Pizz off back to your own club.
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Not that any of that makes sense but I think we can all see what you’re about Devon.
comment by Robbing Hoody - keepy up arbiter. Don’t talk to me unless you can do ten (U6374)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by fridgeboy (U1053)
posted 26 seconds ago
comment by Robbing Hoody - keepy up arbiter. Don’t talk to me unless you can do ten (U6374)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Robbing Hoody - keepy up arbiter. Don’t ... (U6374)
posted 5 minutes ago
Tory southerner Devon trying to excuse R A C I S M yet again
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I am not condoning what Bents has said whatsoever you clown so grow up.
I remember how much the scouse fans moaned and cried conspiracy when Suarez was found guilty. Hoody being one at the front of that queue on here. Fackin embarrassing that was!
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And now onto whattaboutery… shameful.
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Your "whataboutery" claim would hold some substance if you weren't the one defining hypocrisy in such a way. You're in no position to hold other fans to account. Pizz off back to your own club.
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Not that any of that makes sense but I think we can all see what you’re about Devon.
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I'm not Devon. Are you saying we all look alike? 6-12 game ban incoming.
Genuine apologies for confusing you with Devon, didn’t mean an offence there.
It’s such a silly ban if he gets one (which he will now he’s been charged).
Just find it weird how people don’t have a filter on this stuff by now.
As a player I really like him, just seem to rarely see him play.
comment by Robbing Hoody - keepy up arbiter. Don’t talk to me unless you can do ten (U6374)
posted 5 seconds ago
It’s such a silly ban if he gets one (which he will now he’s been charged).
Just find it weird how people don’t have a filter on this stuff by now.
As a player I really like him, just seem to rarely see him play.
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bloody annoying isnt it, imagine actually supporting the team he plays for
comment by Phenom (U20037)
posted 52 seconds ago
comment by Robbing Hoody - keepy up arbiter. Don’t talk to me unless you can do ten (U6374)
posted 5 seconds ago
It’s such a silly ban if he gets one (which he will now he’s been charged).
Just find it weird how people don’t have a filter on this stuff by now.
As a player I really like him, just seem to rarely see him play.
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bloody annoying isnt it, imagine actually supporting the team he plays for
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When he’s on it, he’s superb. Not much he doesn’t have on paper.
Bentancur and Bissouma both have so much quality but you rarely see it though through one reason or another
being able to field those two and Maddison in a midfield three each week would really make a lot of difference
comment by Phenom (U20037)
posted 2 minutes ago
Bentancur and Bissouma both have so much quality but you rarely see it though through one reason or another
being able to field those two and Maddison in a midfield three each week would really make a lot of difference
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Not many stronger threes in the Prem really.
Great opportunity for Anderson though.
Hope you smash Arsenal Sunday fwiw. I’ve watched two of your games so far, thought you looked good in both despite the result.
comment by fridgeboy (U1053)
posted 36 minutes ago
comment by Edinspur (U1109)
posted 9 minutes ago
"Tend to agree with this. Any complaints the FA will have received will likely just be a collection of Twitter's ever increasing mob of narcissistic, virtue signallers. I doubt they were actually offended. They just wanted to be the first to call foul play."
Abhorrent take. Just because your sheltered white self didn't take offence to this, doesn't mean you get to dictate what other people do or don't take offence to.
I would happily leave that to the Asian community to decide.
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I wonder how many Asians actually made up that collection of complaints? Don't get me wrong, there's validity to the claims, of course there is, but a large portion of those complaining could just as easily be rival club fans with a completely different ethnic background to those who 'should' technically be offended.
The world isn't prepared to discuss grey area anymore. Debate has disappeared. For instance, if my nan said something mildly racist in her 90s, it's not great but it's a product of her background and a different time. It's completely different to someone in their 20s doing the same thing. No one wants to talk about that. Everything is very linear and black or white, so to speak.
In this instance, Bentancur, with his background and the norms of his country, is basically my nan in that comparison. I'm not saying it's forgivable but the idea that you throw the book at someone no matter where they're from seems harsh to me.
If this were a blanket punishment for everyone though, I'd understand a little more but how can we see a punishment of this kind, yet Enzo get nothing for his chanting? That's where there's a problem.
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But in this instance he should be getting a ban (although the reported 6-9 does seem high). I think its more than reasonable for the FA to determine racism=ban, and adjust the length of ban depending on the offence.
With Enzo, I don't really know much about the outcome of the event. It was done after Bentancur's so will we expect a strong punishment in a few weeks?
comment by Robbing Hoody - keepy up arbiter. Don’t talk to me unless you can do ten (U6374)
posted 15 minutes ago
comment by Phenom (U20037)
posted 2 minutes ago
Bentancur and Bissouma both have so much quality but you rarely see it though through one reason or another
being able to field those two and Maddison in a midfield three each week would really make a lot of difference
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Not many stronger threes in the Prem really.
Great opportunity for Anderson though.
Hope you smash Arsenal Sunday fwiw. I’ve watched two of your games so far, thought you looked good in both despite the result.
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my man
comment by Edinspur (U1109)
posted 26 minutes ago
comment by fridgeboy (U1053)
posted 36 minutes ago
comment by Edinspur (U1109)
posted 9 minutes ago
"Tend to agree with this. Any complaints the FA will have received will likely just be a collection of Twitter's ever increasing mob of narcissistic, virtue signallers. I doubt they were actually offended. They just wanted to be the first to call foul play."
Abhorrent take. Just because your sheltered white self didn't take offence to this, doesn't mean you get to dictate what other people do or don't take offence to.
I would happily leave that to the Asian community to decide.
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I wonder how many Asians actually made up that collection of complaints? Don't get me wrong, there's validity to the claims, of course there is, but a large portion of those complaining could just as easily be rival club fans with a completely different ethnic background to those who 'should' technically be offended.
The world isn't prepared to discuss grey area anymore. Debate has disappeared. For instance, if my nan said something mildly racist in her 90s, it's not great but it's a product of her background and a different time. It's completely different to someone in their 20s doing the same thing. No one wants to talk about that. Everything is very linear and black or white, so to speak.
In this instance, Bentancur, with his background and the norms of his country, is basically my nan in that comparison. I'm not saying it's forgivable but the idea that you throw the book at someone no matter where they're from seems harsh to me.
If this were a blanket punishment for everyone though, I'd understand a little more but how can we see a punishment of this kind, yet Enzo get nothing for his chanting? That's where there's a problem.
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But in this instance he should be getting a ban (although the reported 6-9 does seem high). I think its more than reasonable for the FA to determine racism=ban, and adjust the length of ban depending on the offence.
With Enzo, I don't really know much about the outcome of the event. It was done after Bentancur's so will we expect a strong punishment in a few weeks?
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Yeah, I agree. Where the player has been so honest and full in his apology and where Son has accepted that i feel that the matter has been dealt with but if the FA need to ban then fair enough, it sends the right message. I thought 1 or 2 games - but the 6 - 12 seems not to really match the crime.
The comparison was made with Suarez, a player who racially abused another play while playing against him, then denied it making some feeble defence....clearly a player not understanding of his words and actions, and thus cannot be remorseful and accept he has done wrong. - 8 games.
This is very different to Bentancur.
The Enzo situation was a far more offensive song, but also a player who has apologised and accepted his error. I would expect him to get more than Bentancur but certainly less than Suarez.
Suarez is a ridiculous reference point to bring up though, it was over a decade ago. A completely different time, a completely difference circumstance and I'd imagine (and hope) the rules have changed significantly since then.
comment by Edinspur (U1109)
posted 3 minutes ago
Suarez is a ridiculous reference point to bring up though, it was over a decade ago. A completely different time, a completely difference circumstance and I'd imagine (and hope) the rules have changed significantly since then.
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It wasnt the 1970s when you could say what you like without sanction
It is the precedent that other cases are judged on and back then the minimum game ban was 6 and now its guided as 6-12.
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posted on 12/9/24
"Tend to agree with this. Any complaints the FA will have received will likely just be a collection of Twitter's ever increasing mob of narcissistic, virtue signallers. I doubt they were actually offended. They just wanted to be the first to call foul play."
Abhorrent take. Just because your sheltered white self didn't take offence to this, doesn't mean you get to dictate what other people do or don't take offence to.
I would happily leave that to the Asian community to decide.
posted on 12/9/24
comment by Sydney Sweeney (U11781)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Calafiori knows how to Partey (U21076)
posted 5 minutes ago
Suarez got 8 matches I think so it's a bit of a slam dunk tbh.
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Yeah but saying what Bents said, and using the N-word, slightly different ends of a scale of offence.
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It’s still racism, there’s no limit on it. Not surprised a Tory cuuuunt like you is excusing racism though.
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Not denying its racism you simpleton.
The very fact that there is a sliding scale of punishment supports my point that racism can cause offence at different levels.
Saying the Scots are ginger and pasty could be called racist. I can think of far worse incidents of racism which will get you arrested and jailed, let alone charged by the FA.
posted on 12/9/24
comment by Robbing Hoody - keepy up arbiter. Don’t ... (U6374)
posted 12 minutes ago
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Calafiori knows how to Partey (U21076)
posted 5 minutes ago
Suarez got 8 matches I think so it's a bit of a slam dunk tbh.
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Yeah but saying what Bents said, and using the N-word, slightly different ends of a scale of offence.
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Same end of the racism scale though
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Well seeing as Bentancur has admitted his error, and apologised for what he said say it all really. Poor judgement by him.
But at least he has been big enough and self aware enough to admit this, rather than deny it and have the team take to the pitch on Sunday with Bentancur T-shirts on.
posted on 12/9/24
Tory southerner Devon trying to excuse R A C I S M yet again
posted on 12/9/24
didnt happen on the pitch though
he should just be banned from speaking not playing
posted on 12/9/24
comment by Robbing Hoody - keepy up arbiter. Don’t ... (U6374)
posted 5 minutes ago
Tory southerner Devon trying to excuse R A C I S M yet again
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I am not condoning what Bents has said whatsoever you clown so grow up.
I remember how much the scouse fans moaned and cried conspiracy when Suarez was found guilty. Hoody being one at the front of that queue on here. Fackin embarrassing that was!
posted on 12/9/24
comment by Edinspur (U1109)
posted 9 minutes ago
"Tend to agree with this. Any complaints the FA will have received will likely just be a collection of Twitter's ever increasing mob of narcissistic, virtue signallers. I doubt they were actually offended. They just wanted to be the first to call foul play."
Abhorrent take. Just because your sheltered white self didn't take offence to this, doesn't mean you get to dictate what other people do or don't take offence to.
I would happily leave that to the Asian community to decide.
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I wonder how many Asians actually made up that collection of complaints? Don't get me wrong, there's validity to the claims, of course there is, but a large portion of those complaining could just as easily be rival club fans with a completely different ethnic background to those who 'should' technically be offended.
The world isn't prepared to discuss grey area anymore. Debate has disappeared. For instance, if my nan said something mildly racist in her 90s, it's not great but it's a product of her background and a different time. It's completely different to someone in their 20s doing the same thing. No one wants to talk about that. Everything is very linear and black or white, so to speak.
In this instance, Bentancur, with his background and the norms of his country, is basically my nan in that comparison. I'm not saying it's forgivable but the idea that you throw the book at someone no matter where they're from seems harsh to me.
If this were a blanket punishment for everyone though, I'd understand a little more but how can we see a punishment of this kind, yet Enzo get nothing for his chanting? That's where there's a problem.
posted on 12/9/24
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Robbing Hoody - keepy up arbiter. Don’t ... (U6374)
posted 5 minutes ago
Tory southerner Devon trying to excuse R A C I S M yet again
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I am not condoning what Bents has said whatsoever you clown so grow up.
I remember how much the scouse fans moaned and cried conspiracy when Suarez was found guilty. Hoody being one at the front of that queue on here. Fackin embarrassing that was!
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And now onto whattaboutery… shameful.
posted on 12/9/24
To this day I still don't get how John Terry got away with just a 4 match ban if the FA law guides on a 6 to 12 match punishment
posted on 12/9/24
comment by Robbing Hoody - keepy up arbiter. Don’t talk to me unless you can do ten (U6374)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Robbing Hoody - keepy up arbiter. Don’t ... (U6374)
posted 5 minutes ago
Tory southerner Devon trying to excuse R A C I S M yet again
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I am not condoning what Bents has said whatsoever you clown so grow up.
I remember how much the scouse fans moaned and cried conspiracy when Suarez was found guilty. Hoody being one at the front of that queue on here. Fackin embarrassing that was!
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And now onto whattaboutery… shameful.
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Your "whataboutery" claim would hold some substance if you weren't the one defining hypocrisy in such a way. You're in no position to hold other fans to account. Pizz off back to your own club.
posted on 12/9/24
comment by fridgeboy (U1053)
posted 26 seconds ago
comment by Robbing Hoody - keepy up arbiter. Don’t talk to me unless you can do ten (U6374)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Robbing Hoody - keepy up arbiter. Don’t ... (U6374)
posted 5 minutes ago
Tory southerner Devon trying to excuse R A C I S M yet again
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I am not condoning what Bents has said whatsoever you clown so grow up.
I remember how much the scouse fans moaned and cried conspiracy when Suarez was found guilty. Hoody being one at the front of that queue on here. Fackin embarrassing that was!
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And now onto whattaboutery… shameful.
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Your "whataboutery" claim would hold some substance if you weren't the one defining hypocrisy in such a way. You're in no position to hold other fans to account. Pizz off back to your own club.
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Not that any of that makes sense but I think we can all see what you’re about Devon.
posted on 12/9/24
comment by Robbing Hoody - keepy up arbiter. Don’t talk to me unless you can do ten (U6374)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by fridgeboy (U1053)
posted 26 seconds ago
comment by Robbing Hoody - keepy up arbiter. Don’t talk to me unless you can do ten (U6374)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Robbing Hoody - keepy up arbiter. Don’t ... (U6374)
posted 5 minutes ago
Tory southerner Devon trying to excuse R A C I S M yet again
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I am not condoning what Bents has said whatsoever you clown so grow up.
I remember how much the scouse fans moaned and cried conspiracy when Suarez was found guilty. Hoody being one at the front of that queue on here. Fackin embarrassing that was!
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And now onto whattaboutery… shameful.
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Your "whataboutery" claim would hold some substance if you weren't the one defining hypocrisy in such a way. You're in no position to hold other fans to account. Pizz off back to your own club.
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Not that any of that makes sense but I think we can all see what you’re about Devon.
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I'm not Devon. Are you saying we all look alike? 6-12 game ban incoming.
posted on 12/9/24
Genuine apologies for confusing you with Devon, didn’t mean an offence there.
posted on 12/9/24
easily done tbh
posted on 12/9/24
It’s such a silly ban if he gets one (which he will now he’s been charged).
Just find it weird how people don’t have a filter on this stuff by now.
As a player I really like him, just seem to rarely see him play.
posted on 12/9/24
comment by Robbing Hoody - keepy up arbiter. Don’t talk to me unless you can do ten (U6374)
posted 5 seconds ago
It’s such a silly ban if he gets one (which he will now he’s been charged).
Just find it weird how people don’t have a filter on this stuff by now.
As a player I really like him, just seem to rarely see him play.
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bloody annoying isnt it, imagine actually supporting the team he plays for
posted on 12/9/24
comment by Phenom (U20037)
posted 52 seconds ago
comment by Robbing Hoody - keepy up arbiter. Don’t talk to me unless you can do ten (U6374)
posted 5 seconds ago
It’s such a silly ban if he gets one (which he will now he’s been charged).
Just find it weird how people don’t have a filter on this stuff by now.
As a player I really like him, just seem to rarely see him play.
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bloody annoying isnt it, imagine actually supporting the team he plays for
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When he’s on it, he’s superb. Not much he doesn’t have on paper.
posted on 12/9/24
Bentancur and Bissouma both have so much quality but you rarely see it though through one reason or another
being able to field those two and Maddison in a midfield three each week would really make a lot of difference
posted on 12/9/24
🥱
posted on 12/9/24
comment by Phenom (U20037)
posted 2 minutes ago
Bentancur and Bissouma both have so much quality but you rarely see it though through one reason or another
being able to field those two and Maddison in a midfield three each week would really make a lot of difference
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Not many stronger threes in the Prem really.
Great opportunity for Anderson though.
Hope you smash Arsenal Sunday fwiw. I’ve watched two of your games so far, thought you looked good in both despite the result.
posted on 12/9/24
comment by fridgeboy (U1053)
posted 36 minutes ago
comment by Edinspur (U1109)
posted 9 minutes ago
"Tend to agree with this. Any complaints the FA will have received will likely just be a collection of Twitter's ever increasing mob of narcissistic, virtue signallers. I doubt they were actually offended. They just wanted to be the first to call foul play."
Abhorrent take. Just because your sheltered white self didn't take offence to this, doesn't mean you get to dictate what other people do or don't take offence to.
I would happily leave that to the Asian community to decide.
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I wonder how many Asians actually made up that collection of complaints? Don't get me wrong, there's validity to the claims, of course there is, but a large portion of those complaining could just as easily be rival club fans with a completely different ethnic background to those who 'should' technically be offended.
The world isn't prepared to discuss grey area anymore. Debate has disappeared. For instance, if my nan said something mildly racist in her 90s, it's not great but it's a product of her background and a different time. It's completely different to someone in their 20s doing the same thing. No one wants to talk about that. Everything is very linear and black or white, so to speak.
In this instance, Bentancur, with his background and the norms of his country, is basically my nan in that comparison. I'm not saying it's forgivable but the idea that you throw the book at someone no matter where they're from seems harsh to me.
If this were a blanket punishment for everyone though, I'd understand a little more but how can we see a punishment of this kind, yet Enzo get nothing for his chanting? That's where there's a problem.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
But in this instance he should be getting a ban (although the reported 6-9 does seem high). I think its more than reasonable for the FA to determine racism=ban, and adjust the length of ban depending on the offence.
With Enzo, I don't really know much about the outcome of the event. It was done after Bentancur's so will we expect a strong punishment in a few weeks?
posted on 12/9/24
comment by Robbing Hoody - keepy up arbiter. Don’t talk to me unless you can do ten (U6374)
posted 15 minutes ago
comment by Phenom (U20037)
posted 2 minutes ago
Bentancur and Bissouma both have so much quality but you rarely see it though through one reason or another
being able to field those two and Maddison in a midfield three each week would really make a lot of difference
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Not many stronger threes in the Prem really.
Great opportunity for Anderson though.
Hope you smash Arsenal Sunday fwiw. I’ve watched two of your games so far, thought you looked good in both despite the result.
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my man
posted on 12/9/24
comment by Edinspur (U1109)
posted 26 minutes ago
comment by fridgeboy (U1053)
posted 36 minutes ago
comment by Edinspur (U1109)
posted 9 minutes ago
"Tend to agree with this. Any complaints the FA will have received will likely just be a collection of Twitter's ever increasing mob of narcissistic, virtue signallers. I doubt they were actually offended. They just wanted to be the first to call foul play."
Abhorrent take. Just because your sheltered white self didn't take offence to this, doesn't mean you get to dictate what other people do or don't take offence to.
I would happily leave that to the Asian community to decide.
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I wonder how many Asians actually made up that collection of complaints? Don't get me wrong, there's validity to the claims, of course there is, but a large portion of those complaining could just as easily be rival club fans with a completely different ethnic background to those who 'should' technically be offended.
The world isn't prepared to discuss grey area anymore. Debate has disappeared. For instance, if my nan said something mildly racist in her 90s, it's not great but it's a product of her background and a different time. It's completely different to someone in their 20s doing the same thing. No one wants to talk about that. Everything is very linear and black or white, so to speak.
In this instance, Bentancur, with his background and the norms of his country, is basically my nan in that comparison. I'm not saying it's forgivable but the idea that you throw the book at someone no matter where they're from seems harsh to me.
If this were a blanket punishment for everyone though, I'd understand a little more but how can we see a punishment of this kind, yet Enzo get nothing for his chanting? That's where there's a problem.
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But in this instance he should be getting a ban (although the reported 6-9 does seem high). I think its more than reasonable for the FA to determine racism=ban, and adjust the length of ban depending on the offence.
With Enzo, I don't really know much about the outcome of the event. It was done after Bentancur's so will we expect a strong punishment in a few weeks?
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Yeah, I agree. Where the player has been so honest and full in his apology and where Son has accepted that i feel that the matter has been dealt with but if the FA need to ban then fair enough, it sends the right message. I thought 1 or 2 games - but the 6 - 12 seems not to really match the crime.
The comparison was made with Suarez, a player who racially abused another play while playing against him, then denied it making some feeble defence....clearly a player not understanding of his words and actions, and thus cannot be remorseful and accept he has done wrong. - 8 games.
This is very different to Bentancur.
The Enzo situation was a far more offensive song, but also a player who has apologised and accepted his error. I would expect him to get more than Bentancur but certainly less than Suarez.
posted on 12/9/24
Suarez is a ridiculous reference point to bring up though, it was over a decade ago. A completely different time, a completely difference circumstance and I'd imagine (and hope) the rules have changed significantly since then.
posted on 12/9/24
comment by Edinspur (U1109)
posted 3 minutes ago
Suarez is a ridiculous reference point to bring up though, it was over a decade ago. A completely different time, a completely difference circumstance and I'd imagine (and hope) the rules have changed significantly since then.
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It wasnt the 1970s when you could say what you like without sanction
It is the precedent that other cases are judged on and back then the minimum game ban was 6 and now its guided as 6-12.
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