Sounds daft, but as long as they don’t increase the leg room.
London stadium and Wembley are way better facilities but awful recent experiences.
I’m nit that old a man but happy to sound like one in that you should be careful what you wish for. Get this wrong and could suck the life out of Elland Road
Needs doing, the demand for tickets is there and an extra 15000 seats will earn the club some good money.
prob needed in an ideal world, our fan base is huge and its very difficult to get tickets to watch us, even in the championship.
How much this cost and would this be detriment to the playing squad, as in buying players?
How much this cost and would this be detriment to the playing squad, as in buying players?
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Shouldnt effect it, unless the club want it too
Good news👍 … however the point by Faith is a good one, let’s hope any expansion is done in a way that enhances, rather than diminishes, the special ER atmosphere.
Not being a football ground designer, I don't have the answer😁, but we need to avoid trashing the ER atmosphere and I’m thinking about the sort of problems Arsenal and West Ham had, albeit they moved to new stadia.
comment by LIW 100 Points, champions, Undefeated (U8453)
posted 9 minutes ago
How much this cost and would this be detriment to the playing squad, as in buying players?
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Shouldnt effect it, unless the club want it too
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why is this tho?, surely money spent is money spent?
Not being a football ground designer, I don't have the answer😁, but we need to avoid trashing the ER atmosphere and I’m thinking about the sort of problems Arsenal and West Ham had, albeit they moved to new stadia.
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I always thought the atmosphere at those grounds were diminsihed because they priced the avarege football fan out for tourism and the prawn sandwich brigade and nothing to do with the size?
I mean, Leeds fans at Wembley for example you can hear us loud and proud.
comment by The Light Brigade (U22847)
posted 3 minutes ago
Good news👍 … however the point by Faith is a good one, let’s hope any expansion is done in a way that enhances, rather than diminishes, the special ER atmosphere.
Not being a football ground designer, I don't have the answer😁, but we need to avoid trashing the ER atmosphere and I’m thinking about the sort of problems Arsenal and West Ham had, albeit they moved to new stadia.
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Arsenal was quite at highbury, but to be fair, its been good last couple of years.
And west ham, too far away from pitch
comment by The Spanish Italians - Its all coming home aga... (U21595)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by LIW 100 Points, champions, Undefeated (U8453)
posted 9 minutes ago
How much this cost and would this be detriment to the playing squad, as in buying players?
—————————————————————
Shouldnt effect it, unless the club want it too
-------------------------------
why is this tho?, surely money spent is money spent?
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The money generated from the new stands, are going to greatly increase the revenue of the club, easily covering any interest payments (no idea how they are financing it)
comment by The Spanish Italians - Its all coming home aga... (U21595)
posted 5 minutes ago
Not being a football ground designer, I don't have the answer😁, but we need to avoid trashing the ER atmosphere and I’m thinking about the sort of problems Arsenal and West Ham had, albeit they moved to new stadia.
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I always thought the atmosphere at those grounds were diminsihed because they priced the avarege football fan out for tourism and the prawn sandwich brigade and nothing to do with the size?
I mean, Leeds fans at Wembley for example you can hear us loud and proud.
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Yep, maybe👍
comment by The Spanish Italians - Its all coming home aga... (U21595)
posted 6 minutes ago
Not being a football ground designer, I don't have the answer😁, but we need to avoid trashing the ER atmosphere and I’m thinking about the sort of problems Arsenal and West Ham had, albeit they moved to new stadia.
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I always thought the atmosphere at those grounds were diminsihed because they priced the avarege football fan out for tourism and the prawn sandwich brigade and nothing to do with the size?
I mean, Leeds fans at Wembley for example you can hear us loud and proud.
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I do take your point, but thought wembley atmosphere was very poor
Yep, West Ham defo too, too far away from pitch … and that really odd ‘gap/moat-like’ thing (done to bridge gap between new seats and old Olympic stadium seats).
I do take your point, but thought wembley atmosphere was very poor
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didn't go to be fair, so will take your word for it
also City experience a lack of atmosphere, not sure this could be due to the size too?
I could get abit of stick for this.
The increase in women and girls going to football, has diluted the atmosphere in the UK.
a bit of stick lucielle is waiting for you
comment by kammys left foot / mbe (U21862)
posted 1 minute ago
a bit of stick lucielle is waiting for you
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are you Negan ?
comment by LIW 100 Points, champions, Undefeated (U8453)
posted 7 minutes ago
I could get abit of stick for this.
The increase in women and girls going to football, has diluted the atmosphere in the UK.
-------------------
yep, lots of truth in that tbf
comment by kammys left foot / mbe (U21862)
posted 5 minutes ago
a bit of sticklucielle is waiting for you
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Shush - he has his hand on the closet door handle...
Dont get me wrong, its fair better for the game, and grassroots football in girls, has really exploded.
But am I less likely to sing, stood next to a fit bird, maybe.
Am i less likely to drop f bombs and C bombs, next to women and girls, most definitely.
It has vastly improved matchday behaviour and lets be honest apart from odd big game, or big rival, there isnt any trouble at all.
But no doubt it has affected the atmosphere
comment by LIW 100 Points, champions, Undefeated (U8453)
posted 1 minute ago
Dont get me wrong, its fair better for the game, and grassroots football in girls, has really exploded.
But am I less likely to sing, stood next to a fit bird, maybe.
Am i less likely to drop f bombs and C bombs, next to women and girls, most definitely.
It has vastly improved matchday behaviour and lets be honest apart from odd big game, or big rival, there isnt any trouble at all.
But no doubt it has affected the atmosphere
------------------
exactly that...
"a fit bird next to me" .... superb
Breaking News:
Jack Carter has timed a ‘fit bird’ in from Perpignan, France, 12, 585 pigeons…well done Jack, 1st again.
Keep it up Jack…you’ve always done well with fit birds!
comment by LIW 100 Points, champions, Undefeated (U8453)
posted 8 hours, 57 minutes ago
Dont get me wrong, its fair better for the game, and grassroots football in girls, has really exploded.
But am I less likely to sing, stood next to a fit bird, maybe.
Am i less likely to drop f bombs and C bombs, next to women and girls, most definitely.
It has vastly improved matchday behaviour and lets be honest apart from odd big game, or big rival, there isnt any trouble at all.
But no doubt it has affected the atmosphere
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Certainly the young lady a couple along from me in the North Stand sings and swears like a trooper...
And does anyone know if infrastructure spend is accounted for differently than player purchases? If so, it might mean that the two aren't as related as we think.
comment by The Spanish Italians - Its all coming home again (U21595)
posted 11 hours, 35 minutes ago
I do take your point, but thought wembley atmosphere was very poor
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didn't go to be fair, so will take your word for it
also City experience a lack of atmosphere, not sure this could be due to the size too?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
It was awful. I imagine a few reasons.
1. Everyone at Elland rd is in the right places and tend to know who starts the songs etc.That’s a right mix up at a cup final. (Not wembleys fault)
2. Seats are spread out way too much.
3. Lack of corners and sides makes it harder to distinguish between sections of the fan base and harder for fans to bounce off each other.
4. The size of the place made it harder for songs to be heard across the full fan base and often they were finishing before all the fans had heard it start.
It’s just not designed to be intimidating. I don’t think you should be able to let people walk past your seat without having to stand up. Have to say though, west ham’s London stadium is the worst I have ever been to by a long long stretch. It’s all the problems above but x10.
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posted on 13/9/24
Sounds daft, but as long as they don’t increase the leg room.
London stadium and Wembley are way better facilities but awful recent experiences.
I’m nit that old a man but happy to sound like one in that you should be careful what you wish for. Get this wrong and could suck the life out of Elland Road
posted on 13/9/24
Needs doing, the demand for tickets is there and an extra 15000 seats will earn the club some good money.
posted on 13/9/24
prob needed in an ideal world, our fan base is huge and its very difficult to get tickets to watch us, even in the championship.
How much this cost and would this be detriment to the playing squad, as in buying players?
posted on 13/9/24
How much this cost and would this be detriment to the playing squad, as in buying players?
—————————————————————
Shouldnt effect it, unless the club want it too
posted on 13/9/24
Good news👍 … however the point by Faith is a good one, let’s hope any expansion is done in a way that enhances, rather than diminishes, the special ER atmosphere.
Not being a football ground designer, I don't have the answer😁, but we need to avoid trashing the ER atmosphere and I’m thinking about the sort of problems Arsenal and West Ham had, albeit they moved to new stadia.
posted on 13/9/24
comment by LIW 100 Points, champions, Undefeated (U8453)
posted 9 minutes ago
How much this cost and would this be detriment to the playing squad, as in buying players?
—————————————————————
Shouldnt effect it, unless the club want it too
-------------------------------
why is this tho?, surely money spent is money spent?
posted on 13/9/24
Not being a football ground designer, I don't have the answer😁, but we need to avoid trashing the ER atmosphere and I’m thinking about the sort of problems Arsenal and West Ham had, albeit they moved to new stadia.
----------------------
I always thought the atmosphere at those grounds were diminsihed because they priced the avarege football fan out for tourism and the prawn sandwich brigade and nothing to do with the size?
I mean, Leeds fans at Wembley for example you can hear us loud and proud.
posted on 13/9/24
comment by The Light Brigade (U22847)
posted 3 minutes ago
Good news👍 … however the point by Faith is a good one, let’s hope any expansion is done in a way that enhances, rather than diminishes, the special ER atmosphere.
Not being a football ground designer, I don't have the answer😁, but we need to avoid trashing the ER atmosphere and I’m thinking about the sort of problems Arsenal and West Ham had, albeit they moved to new stadia.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Arsenal was quite at highbury, but to be fair, its been good last couple of years.
And west ham, too far away from pitch
posted on 13/9/24
comment by The Spanish Italians - Its all coming home aga... (U21595)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by LIW 100 Points, champions, Undefeated (U8453)
posted 9 minutes ago
How much this cost and would this be detriment to the playing squad, as in buying players?
—————————————————————
Shouldnt effect it, unless the club want it too
-------------------------------
why is this tho?, surely money spent is money spent?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
The money generated from the new stands, are going to greatly increase the revenue of the club, easily covering any interest payments (no idea how they are financing it)
posted on 13/9/24
comment by The Spanish Italians - Its all coming home aga... (U21595)
posted 5 minutes ago
Not being a football ground designer, I don't have the answer😁, but we need to avoid trashing the ER atmosphere and I’m thinking about the sort of problems Arsenal and West Ham had, albeit they moved to new stadia.
----------------------
I always thought the atmosphere at those grounds were diminsihed because they priced the avarege football fan out for tourism and the prawn sandwich brigade and nothing to do with the size?
I mean, Leeds fans at Wembley for example you can hear us loud and proud.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Yep, maybe👍
posted on 13/9/24
comment by The Spanish Italians - Its all coming home aga... (U21595)
posted 6 minutes ago
Not being a football ground designer, I don't have the answer😁, but we need to avoid trashing the ER atmosphere and I’m thinking about the sort of problems Arsenal and West Ham had, albeit they moved to new stadia.
----------------------
I always thought the atmosphere at those grounds were diminsihed because they priced the avarege football fan out for tourism and the prawn sandwich brigade and nothing to do with the size?
I mean, Leeds fans at Wembley for example you can hear us loud and proud.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I do take your point, but thought wembley atmosphere was very poor
posted on 13/9/24
Yep, West Ham defo too, too far away from pitch … and that really odd ‘gap/moat-like’ thing (done to bridge gap between new seats and old Olympic stadium seats).
posted on 13/9/24
I do take your point, but thought wembley atmosphere was very poor
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didn't go to be fair, so will take your word for it
also City experience a lack of atmosphere, not sure this could be due to the size too?
posted on 13/9/24
I could get abit of stick for this.
The increase in women and girls going to football, has diluted the atmosphere in the UK.
posted on 13/9/24
a bit of stick lucielle is waiting for you
posted on 13/9/24
comment by kammys left foot / mbe (U21862)
posted 1 minute ago
a bit of stick lucielle is waiting for you
--------------
are you Negan ?
posted on 13/9/24
comment by LIW 100 Points, champions, Undefeated (U8453)
posted 7 minutes ago
I could get abit of stick for this.
The increase in women and girls going to football, has diluted the atmosphere in the UK.
-------------------
yep, lots of truth in that tbf
posted on 13/9/24
comment by kammys left foot / mbe (U21862)
posted 5 minutes ago
a bit of sticklucielle is waiting for you
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Shush - he has his hand on the closet door handle...
posted on 13/9/24
Dont get me wrong, its fair better for the game, and grassroots football in girls, has really exploded.
But am I less likely to sing, stood next to a fit bird, maybe.
Am i less likely to drop f bombs and C bombs, next to women and girls, most definitely.
It has vastly improved matchday behaviour and lets be honest apart from odd big game, or big rival, there isnt any trouble at all.
But no doubt it has affected the atmosphere
posted on 13/9/24
comment by LIW 100 Points, champions, Undefeated (U8453)
posted 1 minute ago
Dont get me wrong, its fair better for the game, and grassroots football in girls, has really exploded.
But am I less likely to sing, stood next to a fit bird, maybe.
Am i less likely to drop f bombs and C bombs, next to women and girls, most definitely.
It has vastly improved matchday behaviour and lets be honest apart from odd big game, or big rival, there isnt any trouble at all.
But no doubt it has affected the atmosphere
------------------
exactly that...
"a fit bird next to me" .... superb
posted on 13/9/24
Breaking News:
Jack Carter has timed a ‘fit bird’ in from Perpignan, France, 12, 585 pigeons…well done Jack, 1st again.
Keep it up Jack…you’ve always done well with fit birds!
posted on 13/9/24
comment by LIW 100 Points, champions, Undefeated (U8453)
posted 8 hours, 57 minutes ago
Dont get me wrong, its fair better for the game, and grassroots football in girls, has really exploded.
But am I less likely to sing, stood next to a fit bird, maybe.
Am i less likely to drop f bombs and C bombs, next to women and girls, most definitely.
It has vastly improved matchday behaviour and lets be honest apart from odd big game, or big rival, there isnt any trouble at all.
But no doubt it has affected the atmosphere
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Certainly the young lady a couple along from me in the North Stand sings and swears like a trooper...
And does anyone know if infrastructure spend is accounted for differently than player purchases? If so, it might mean that the two aren't as related as we think.
posted on 13/9/24
comment by The Spanish Italians - Its all coming home again (U21595)
posted 11 hours, 35 minutes ago
I do take your point, but thought wembley atmosphere was very poor
----------------------
didn't go to be fair, so will take your word for it
also City experience a lack of atmosphere, not sure this could be due to the size too?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
It was awful. I imagine a few reasons.
1. Everyone at Elland rd is in the right places and tend to know who starts the songs etc.That’s a right mix up at a cup final. (Not wembleys fault)
2. Seats are spread out way too much.
3. Lack of corners and sides makes it harder to distinguish between sections of the fan base and harder for fans to bounce off each other.
4. The size of the place made it harder for songs to be heard across the full fan base and often they were finishing before all the fans had heard it start.
It’s just not designed to be intimidating. I don’t think you should be able to let people walk past your seat without having to stand up. Have to say though, west ham’s London stadium is the worst I have ever been to by a long long stretch. It’s all the problems above but x10.
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