City have never beaten Arsenal fairly this century

Utterly pathetic. What a joke with refs working in Saudi. They think we're stoopid. The PGMOL is a profit makimg enterprise.

Disband the PGMOL and put to pasture anyone linked with them. Football fans need to push for this.

Didn't Oliver ref the Liverpool v Man city game where they didn't he didn't give penalty for Doku's high challenge on Alexis Mac Allister.?

https://www.skysports.com/football/news/11095/13098484/liverpool-penalty-claim-vs-man-city-why-did-var-say-jeremy-doku-and-alexis-mac-allister-both-come-in-high

comment by Mamba - You hit us, We hit you. (U1282)
posted 2 hours, 33 minutes ago
Utterly pathetic. What a joke with refs working in Saudi. They think we're stoopid. The PGMOL is a profit makimg enterprise.

Disband the PGMOL and put to pasture anyone linked with them. Football fans need to push for this.
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Saudi and the UAE have a similar relationship to Britain and France.

Officially allies in many ways but don't really like each other.

https://x.com/ZACWILSON_/status/1835985559195402567

The comments on the original tweet that the OP stole say it all

comment by Passion Power - Make 1984 fiction again (U8398)
posted 2 hours, 47 minutes ago
Didn't Oliver ref the Liverpool v Man city game where they didn't he didn't give penalty for Doku's high challenge on Alexis Mac Allister.?

https://www.skysports.com/football/news/11095/13098484/liverpool-penalty-claim-vs-man-city-why-did-var-say-jeremy-doku-and-alexis-mac-allister-both-come-in-high
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Mac Alister invaded Dokus space

You could have got Anthony Taylor...who is having a week off this week

His yellow card had to go in for an emergency service

he was awful vs forest, didnt let the game flow at all.

just posted this earlier

have to say the ref was spot on outside a few soft free kicks, but even with those he allowed the game to flow a lot more. Michael Oliver should be embarrassed, the PGMOL should be. That guys prob some slovenian full time pig farmer and miles better ref than anything in the prem.
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shame cause oliver used to be one of the better refs with clattenburg but since clattenburg left hes become one of the worse refs in the league past few years has oliver.

Well lets hope Oliver didnt fly to the UAE on Emirates...I mean that would show blatant bias towards Arsenal, if you are so pathetically small minded and petty to think in this way.

Any links to this game in the UAE, all I’m seeing is that he reffed a game in Saudi Arabia

comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 7 hours, 13 minutes ago
Well lets hope Oliver didnt fly to the UAE on Emirates...I mean that would show blatant bias towards Arsenal, if you are so pathetically small minded and petty to think in this way.
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You are incredibly naive...

Why did Man City owners need to pick a ref from the Premier League? They have a choice of the entire footballing world but chose to fly one in from England and pay him £20,000.

This should be against ABC laws surely. Not sure how the FA has brushed this one under the carpet.

comment by You Can't Buy Class ¯\_/^v^\_/¯ (U12019)
posted 28 seconds ago
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 7 hours, 13 minutes ago
Well lets hope Oliver didnt fly to the UAE on Emirates...I mean that would show blatant bias towards Arsenal, if you are so pathetically small minded and petty to think in this way.
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You are incredibly naive...

Why did Man City owners need to pick a ref from the Premier League? They have a choice of the entire footballing world but chose to fly one in from England and pay him £20,000.

This should be against ABC laws surely. Not sure how the FA has brushed this one under the carpet.
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Which ref did City pick and for which game?

This is confusing

comment by Ras Clar Teta (U22980)
posted 12 hours, 26 minutes ago
City have never beaten Arsenal fairly this century
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c-aS57UOF2Q

This 9 goal thriller looks pretty fair.

Apparently The Athletic wrote an article about it, or at least mentioned this but I don't have a subscription to verify.

"Man City's owners paid Michael Oliver a huge sum of cash in order to officiate games in Abu Dhabi. Not only does this represent a conflict of interest for the Premier League, but also brings into question some of the dodgy decisions which went in Man City's favour over the course of the season in games where Michael Oliver was the referee. This includes: failing to send Kovacic off against Arsenal, refusing to award Liverpool a penalty for Jeremy Doku's flying kick on Alexis Mac Allister, and choosing not to give Chelsea a penalty for a blatant handball by Jack Grealish during the FA Cup semi final."

comment by You Can't Buy Class ¯\_/^v^\_/¯ (U12019)
posted 15 minutes ago
Apparently The Athletic wrote an article about it, or at least mentioned this but I don't have a subscription to verify.

"Man City's owners paid Michael Oliver a huge sum of cash in order to officiate games in Abu Dhabi. Not only does this represent a conflict of interest for the Premier League, but also brings into question some of the dodgy decisions which went in Man City's favour over the course of the season in games where Michael Oliver was the referee. This includes: failing to send Kovacic off against Arsenal, refusing to award Liverpool a penalty for Jeremy Doku's flying kick on Alexis Mac Allister, and choosing not to give Chelsea a penalty for a blatant handball by Jack Grealish during the FA Cup semi final."
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Why the quotes? These are your own words

Not mine, nicked them from a YT video description.

"Webb has supported the principle of Premier League referees taking overseas assignments, believing they will be better for the experience of working in the UAE, or in Saudi Arabia, as Oliver, Burt, England and Simon Bennett did for a match between Al Nassr and Al Hilal in April — or in Super League Greece, as Craig Pawson did last May, or Japan’s J1 League, as Andrew Madley did in June — and for the increased international exposure. Beyond that, having worked for both the Saudi Arabian Football Federation and Major League Soccer, Webb has been keen to strengthen links between the PGMOL and other refereeing bodies."

So English referees are actively encouraged to officiate overseas, only Arsenal fans seem to think it's wrong and only Arsenal fans would believe Michael Oliver was paid directly by the owners of a rival club rather than the FA of that country.

You lot really are a bunch of clowns.

The Athletic is a reputable outlet, I doubt they'd make a mistake on something as big as this.

Just to enlighten the more dim out there, Al Nassr v Al Hilal is the Riyadh Derby.

Riyadh is most definately in Saudi Arabia, NOT in the UAE which is a totally different country.

Hope this helps.

Oh and of course Webb is happy to support anything related to more money, no doubt on the fiddle himself and has been for years.

comment by You Can't Buy Class ¯\_/^v^\_/¯ (U12019)
posted 1 minute ago
The Athletic is a reputable outlet, I doubt they'd make a mistake on something as big as this.
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So Riyadh is in the UAE now?

Thanks for correcting me.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Riyadh

Sunday's game needs investigating as Manchester is actually in Yemen.

For a start, my reply came before you started talking about the Riyadh Derby it was clearly to your message before so not sure why you are trying to divert away / twist this into some weird excuse.

Secondly, as I said, the match Oliver officiated was in Abu Dhabi, capital of the UAE. Perhaps the teams flew over there? Or perhaps you are referring to a different fixture?

Interesting read through: https://www.reddit.com/r/Gunners/comments/1fj2wce/michael_oliver_and_the_united_arab_emirates/


This comment sums up how I have felt for a long time:
"We have had high profile cases of refereeing corruption in Italy, Spain, and Germany in the last 20 years, and we're led to believe it's different in England? The myth of English exceptionalism is a source of great delusion."

For me, this is not just about Man City in recent years. There were years and years against Man Utd & Chelsea where things were seriously off and also plenty of matches against Liverpool both domestic and when we played them in the CL that seemed off.

When the World's wealthiest people buy into a sport they didn't grow up loving and want to establish themselves as the dominant force / name because that's beneficial to them in many other ways too, then bribery / corruption should be no big surprise to anyone who isn't naive like a young child.

Football is about as corrupt a sport as there is.

Just look at the all the corruption scandals there have been in the past and the Premier League is worth a lot more money than all of those leagues combined.

Just look at Seph Blatter or the news that came out in the last season or two about Barcelona & UEFA Champions League refereeing corruption, something Arsenal directly suffered from against them, once was even in the final, the other a semi-final ( if I remember correctly) where we were dominating and leading up until one of the most absurd second yellow cards vs Van Persie you'll ever see, apart from Oliver's two against Martinelli or Kavanagh's against Rice...

So you've gone from personal views of an Arsenal fan on Twitter to the personal view of an Arsenal fan on Reddit and and expect me (or any non Gooner) to automatically accept it's true.