this is funny because City have been doing this exact thing for years and everyone said they were being clever.
Mourinho was the architect of this and the media and fans applauded him for it (hiding in laundry baskets, poking people in the eye etc)
As soon as we start doing it the refs are clamping down like theres no tomorrow.
West Ham, Newcastle, Brentford Aston Villa have all done this against us and we are told by the media "it's clever"
the hypocrisy is a joke.
However the original post is about corruption and it's clear something smells rotten and the pundits are too scared to call it out.
Yesterday when Micah Richards wanted to talk about the Brighton game and the faillure to book a Brighton player for kicking the ball away but yet Rice was punished the presenter jumped on it and shut the conversation down immediately....why????
You could concluded that city kept the ball in play for longer. It foes not speak of how much time Aesenal wasted when they had the ball.
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It doesn't matter who kept the ball in longer. The fact is the ball was in play longer than any other game. So the argument should be either this game should have had less added time to fall in line with every other game or every other game should have more added time to fall in line with this one.
No DJ. You're completely off the mark here mate.
City keeping the ball in for longer does not correlate with time wasting.
What?
So the average half has 30 minutes of the ball in play.
Yesterday had 35.
Yet it is the latter that needs more added time? Make it make sense.
In fact, considering the total ball in play time for matches in 55 minutes, 30 minutes is probably a high estimation.
So, just to be clear, there is corruption that is aimed at benefitting Man City and Spurs, and actively working against Arsenal.
Seems legit.
comment by D'Jeezus Mackaroni (U1137)
posted 3 minutes ago
What?
So the average half has 30 minutes of the ball in play.
Yesterday had 35.
Yet it is the latter that needs more added time? Make it make sense.
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Yeah, you're not getting it.
The ball being in play time is irrelevant. Although wrong, until we have a stop start method where every time the ball goes out of play for throw ins etc then it will be irrelevant.
Time wasting/being on the floor where the ref as we know, adds time on is different to throw ins/corners.
So your point is irrelevant.
Devon sums it up better than me.
But lets say a game has lots of corners/goal kicks/throw ins/ slow goal kicks where the keeper delays every time by 30 seconds. Balls in play 30 mins but been no actual time added on for injury etc. There will be a few mins added on.
Now lets say, like yesterday, city dominate the ball, take fast corners etc. Balls in play for 35 mins. But The opposition time waste for 10. There should still be 10 mins added on.
So you think yesterday 2nd half should have had 45 minutes of ball in play when the average is below 30?? Make it make sense
comment by D'Jeezus Mackaroni (U1137)
posted 3 minutes ago
So you think yesterday 2nd half should have had 45 minutes of ball in play when the average is below 30?? Make it make sense
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No...Again I dont think your grasping what people are saying.
If a team time wastes for 10 minutes. Do you not think 10 should be added on?
Whether or not that is enforced (as we know its not), but surely you agree with that?
comment by Nickasaurus (U9257)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by D'Jeezus Mackaroni (U1137)
posted 3 minutes ago
What?
So the average half has 30 minutes of the ball in play.
Yesterday had 35.
Yet it is the latter that needs more added time? Make it make sense.
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Yeah, you're not getting it.
The ball being in play time is irrelevant. Although wrong, until we have a stop start method where every time the ball goes out of play for throw ins etc then it will be irrelevant.
Time wasting/being on the floor where the ref as we know, adds time on is different to throw ins/corners.
So your point is irrelevant.
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Nick, you are confusing ball not being in play with it being off the pitch. If Arsenal are wasting time not taking a free kick for example, that ball isn't in play. Taking ages over a goal kick, the ball isn't in play.
I am saying that the time was added on. Timber was injured on 90 and over two minutes were added for that.
35 is way above average, so the conclusion should be that the ref more than added sufficient time to the end of the game,
Paella Pulis got what his cheating deserved
Is this a genuine question?!?! Of course the prem is corrupt ffs, it isn't even hidden.
Paella Vinnie Jones got what his cheating deserved. Karma came for him quick Any news on how long Karma will keep Rodri out for?
Masters of the dark arts crying about dark arts. Hypocritical from City. Fack them.
Having said that, we had two titles taken from us by poor officiating and they laughed at us so fack them too.
comment by D'Jeezus Mackaroni (U1137)
posted 20 minutes ago
Paella Vinnie Jones got what his cheating deserved. Karma came for him quickAny news on how long Karma will keep Rodri out for?
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9 mins
Closing the game down by keeping possession isn’t the same as feigning injury or taking 2 minutes over a goal kick 😹
comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 18 minutes ago
comment by D'Jeezus Mackaroni (U1137)
posted 20 minutes ago
Paella Vinnie Jones got what his cheating deserved. Karma came for him quickAny news on how long Karma will keep Rodri out for?
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9 mins
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Hopefully not as long as Odeg
comment by D'Jeezus Mackaroni (U1137)
posted 28 minutes ago
I am saying that the time was added on. Timber was injured on 90 and over two minutes were added for that.
35 is way above average, so the conclusion should be that the ref more than added sufficient time to the end of the game,
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Again, you don't have the information to prove that one way or the other.
Beyond a full breakdown of 'down time' in the game, what is very obvious, and was also the case in the NLD, is that Arsenal push the limits in terms of time taken to get the ball back in play. The eye test tells you Arsenal were doing this for much of the game yesterday. It's a clear strategy. Whether to take time out of the game or disrupt momentum, dunno, may be both.
As Arsenal are so strong at set pieces, they have confidence that they can smash and grab in these tight games. Happy to concede territory and possession, confident in their defence and ability to sit in, in these tight big games.
As I said earlier, Arteta has a very detailed approach to games, and employing this slowing down tactic in games where they'd probably take a point but could feel confident their quality and set pieces could get more than that, is very deliberate.
I was disappointed in the NLD how little time was added when Arsenal took so much time at restarts, and how often and long their players went down for, esp. at 1-0..
And in any game, no matter who we are playing,it is so often the case that time wasted in added time is rarely fairly added on. It then becomes worth doing. Go down injured for 2 minutes, have 1 minute added on = 1 minute taken out of the game, and this is a clear part of Arsenal managing a game.
How long was the ball in play over the full 55 minutes of the 2nd half?
comment by Mamba - You hit us, We hit you. (U1282)
posted 44 minutes ago
Masters of the dark arts crying about dark arts. Hypocritical from City. Fack them.
Having said that, we had two titles taken from us by poor officiating and they laughed at us so fack them too.
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Remember when they had Fernandinho...i think this guy had some sort of deal with refs that he would only get booked if he committed more than 6 fouls, because he was the absolute master at little fouls that stopped the opposition getting out and counter attacking but never got the amount of bookings he deserved. Rodri isnt too far off.
I bet if you took almost any DM in the league, looked at their games played, fouls committed and yellow cards, not only would Fernandinho have one of the highest fouls per game, but he'd also have one of the lowest yellow cards per foul.
comment by D'Jeezus Mackaroni (U1137)
posted 1 hour, 5 minutes ago
Paella Vinnie Jones got what his cheating deserved. Karma came for him quickAny news on how long Karma will keep Rodri out for?
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18 weeks and 4 days
Fernandinho used to look so remorseful, the ref would fear he might start self-harming.
Paul Scholes had a similar skill.
posted 23 hours, 50 minutes ago
comment by Nickasaurus (U9257)
posted 1 hour, 31 minutes ago
Devon sums it up better than me.
But lets say a game has lots of corners/goal kicks/throw ins/ slow goal kicks where the keeper delays every time by 30 seconds. Balls in play 30 mins but been no actual time added on for injury etc. There will be a few mins added on.
Now lets say, like yesterday, city dominate the ball, take fast corners etc. Balls in play for 35 mins. But The opposition time waste for 10. There should still be 10 mins added on.
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Its mad how many stupid fans there are on social media that don’t understand that.
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posted 1 day, 1 hour ago
this is funny because City have been doing this exact thing for years and everyone said they were being clever.
Mourinho was the architect of this and the media and fans applauded him for it (hiding in laundry baskets, poking people in the eye etc)
As soon as we start doing it the refs are clamping down like theres no tomorrow.
West Ham, Newcastle, Brentford Aston Villa have all done this against us and we are told by the media "it's clever"
the hypocrisy is a joke.
However the original post is about corruption and it's clear something smells rotten and the pundits are too scared to call it out.
Yesterday when Micah Richards wanted to talk about the Brighton game and the faillure to book a Brighton player for kicking the ball away but yet Rice was punished the presenter jumped on it and shut the conversation down immediately....why????
posted 1 day, 1 hour ago
You could concluded that city kept the ball in play for longer. It foes not speak of how much time Aesenal wasted when they had the ball.
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It doesn't matter who kept the ball in longer. The fact is the ball was in play longer than any other game. So the argument should be either this game should have had less added time to fall in line with every other game or every other game should have more added time to fall in line with this one.
posted 1 day, 1 hour ago
No DJ. You're completely off the mark here mate.
City keeping the ball in for longer does not correlate with time wasting.
posted 1 day, 1 hour ago
What?
So the average half has 30 minutes of the ball in play.
Yesterday had 35.
Yet it is the latter that needs more added time? Make it make sense.
posted 1 day, 1 hour ago
In fact, considering the total ball in play time for matches in 55 minutes, 30 minutes is probably a high estimation.
posted 1 day, 1 hour ago
So, just to be clear, there is corruption that is aimed at benefitting Man City and Spurs, and actively working against Arsenal.
Seems legit.
posted 1 day, 1 hour ago
comment by D'Jeezus Mackaroni (U1137)
posted 3 minutes ago
What?
So the average half has 30 minutes of the ball in play.
Yesterday had 35.
Yet it is the latter that needs more added time? Make it make sense.
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Yeah, you're not getting it.
The ball being in play time is irrelevant. Although wrong, until we have a stop start method where every time the ball goes out of play for throw ins etc then it will be irrelevant.
Time wasting/being on the floor where the ref as we know, adds time on is different to throw ins/corners.
So your point is irrelevant.
posted 1 day, 1 hour ago
Devon sums it up better than me.
But lets say a game has lots of corners/goal kicks/throw ins/ slow goal kicks where the keeper delays every time by 30 seconds. Balls in play 30 mins but been no actual time added on for injury etc. There will be a few mins added on.
Now lets say, like yesterday, city dominate the ball, take fast corners etc. Balls in play for 35 mins. But The opposition time waste for 10. There should still be 10 mins added on.
posted 1 day, 1 hour ago
So you think yesterday 2nd half should have had 45 minutes of ball in play when the average is below 30?? Make it make sense
posted 1 day, 1 hour ago
comment by D'Jeezus Mackaroni (U1137)
posted 3 minutes ago
So you think yesterday 2nd half should have had 45 minutes of ball in play when the average is below 30?? Make it make sense
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No...Again I dont think your grasping what people are saying.
If a team time wastes for 10 minutes. Do you not think 10 should be added on?
Whether or not that is enforced (as we know its not), but surely you agree with that?
posted 1 day, 1 hour ago
comment by Nickasaurus (U9257)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by D'Jeezus Mackaroni (U1137)
posted 3 minutes ago
What?
So the average half has 30 minutes of the ball in play.
Yesterday had 35.
Yet it is the latter that needs more added time? Make it make sense.
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Yeah, you're not getting it.
The ball being in play time is irrelevant. Although wrong, until we have a stop start method where every time the ball goes out of play for throw ins etc then it will be irrelevant.
Time wasting/being on the floor where the ref as we know, adds time on is different to throw ins/corners.
So your point is irrelevant.
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Nick, you are confusing ball not being in play with it being off the pitch. If Arsenal are wasting time not taking a free kick for example, that ball isn't in play. Taking ages over a goal kick, the ball isn't in play.
posted 1 day, 1 hour ago
I am saying that the time was added on. Timber was injured on 90 and over two minutes were added for that.
35 is way above average, so the conclusion should be that the ref more than added sufficient time to the end of the game,
posted 1 day, 1 hour ago
Paella Pulis got what his cheating deserved
posted 1 day, 1 hour ago
Is this a genuine question?!?! Of course the prem is corrupt ffs, it isn't even hidden.
posted 1 day, 1 hour ago
Paella Vinnie Jones got what his cheating deserved. Karma came for him quick Any news on how long Karma will keep Rodri out for?
posted 1 day ago
Masters of the dark arts crying about dark arts. Hypocritical from City. Fack them.
Having said that, we had two titles taken from us by poor officiating and they laughed at us so fack them too.
posted 1 day ago
comment by D'Jeezus Mackaroni (U1137)
posted 20 minutes ago
Paella Vinnie Jones got what his cheating deserved. Karma came for him quickAny news on how long Karma will keep Rodri out for?
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9 mins
posted 1 day ago
Closing the game down by keeping possession isn’t the same as feigning injury or taking 2 minutes over a goal kick 😹
posted 1 day ago
comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 18 minutes ago
comment by D'Jeezus Mackaroni (U1137)
posted 20 minutes ago
Paella Vinnie Jones got what his cheating deserved. Karma came for him quickAny news on how long Karma will keep Rodri out for?
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9 mins
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Hopefully not as long as Odeg
posted 1 day ago
comment by D'Jeezus Mackaroni (U1137)
posted 28 minutes ago
I am saying that the time was added on. Timber was injured on 90 and over two minutes were added for that.
35 is way above average, so the conclusion should be that the ref more than added sufficient time to the end of the game,
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Again, you don't have the information to prove that one way or the other.
Beyond a full breakdown of 'down time' in the game, what is very obvious, and was also the case in the NLD, is that Arsenal push the limits in terms of time taken to get the ball back in play. The eye test tells you Arsenal were doing this for much of the game yesterday. It's a clear strategy. Whether to take time out of the game or disrupt momentum, dunno, may be both.
As Arsenal are so strong at set pieces, they have confidence that they can smash and grab in these tight games. Happy to concede territory and possession, confident in their defence and ability to sit in, in these tight big games.
As I said earlier, Arteta has a very detailed approach to games, and employing this slowing down tactic in games where they'd probably take a point but could feel confident their quality and set pieces could get more than that, is very deliberate.
I was disappointed in the NLD how little time was added when Arsenal took so much time at restarts, and how often and long their players went down for, esp. at 1-0..
And in any game, no matter who we are playing,it is so often the case that time wasted in added time is rarely fairly added on. It then becomes worth doing. Go down injured for 2 minutes, have 1 minute added on = 1 minute taken out of the game, and this is a clear part of Arsenal managing a game.
posted 1 day ago
How long was the ball in play over the full 55 minutes of the 2nd half?
posted 1 day ago
comment by Mamba - You hit us, We hit you. (U1282)
posted 44 minutes ago
Masters of the dark arts crying about dark arts. Hypocritical from City. Fack them.
Having said that, we had two titles taken from us by poor officiating and they laughed at us so fack them too.
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Remember when they had Fernandinho...i think this guy had some sort of deal with refs that he would only get booked if he committed more than 6 fouls, because he was the absolute master at little fouls that stopped the opposition getting out and counter attacking but never got the amount of bookings he deserved. Rodri isnt too far off.
I bet if you took almost any DM in the league, looked at their games played, fouls committed and yellow cards, not only would Fernandinho have one of the highest fouls per game, but he'd also have one of the lowest yellow cards per foul.
posted 1 day ago
comment by D'Jeezus Mackaroni (U1137)
posted 1 hour, 5 minutes ago
Paella Vinnie Jones got what his cheating deserved. Karma came for him quickAny news on how long Karma will keep Rodri out for?
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18 weeks and 4 days
posted 1 day ago
Fernandinho used to look so remorseful, the ref would fear he might start self-harming.
Paul Scholes had a similar skill.
posted 23 hours, 50 minutes ago
comment by Nickasaurus (U9257)
posted 1 hour, 31 minutes ago
Devon sums it up better than me.
But lets say a game has lots of corners/goal kicks/throw ins/ slow goal kicks where the keeper delays every time by 30 seconds. Balls in play 30 mins but been no actual time added on for injury etc. There will be a few mins added on.
Now lets say, like yesterday, city dominate the ball, take fast corners etc. Balls in play for 35 mins. But The opposition time waste for 10. There should still be 10 mins added on.
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Its mad how many stupid fans there are on social media that don’t understand that.
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