Ten Hag thinks they are improving.
I think the issue is that United are in limbo at the minute where we are still a massive club in terms of the name and finance they can offer (although that could change soon) but in reality we are not at that level so we have to over pay on wages to get players to come to us. The manifestation of this is that we either get players past their best looking for a pay day, players who other clubs don’t want, or young players. The issue with all this is that the quality is not what is required but also the mentality is not there. Young players who come to United get massive money and they think that’s it, job done, life made and very rarely if ever kick on because they enter a comfort zone, and the older players are either just not good enough anymore or are here just for the payday and don’t really care. This all leads to what we have seen for the last 10 years, which is basically players who either aren’t good enough or don’t care enough.
Rashford got booked, very nearly got sent off, then got subbed off and was filmed saying ‘he’s lost the plot’.
-------------------------
This whole thing is a great example of the toxicity around the club at the moment.
No one knows what Rashford said. He got filmed, possibly saying "He's gone mad", but there is no audio. Lip reading isn't that easy and he could just have easily said something completely innocuous.
Secondly, even if he did say that, he could just as easily have been talking about the ref who at one point was dishing out yellow cards to our players like sweets.
In short - please stop making things up.
comment by -bloodred- (U1222)
posted 1 minute ago
Rashford got booked, very nearly got sent off, then got subbed off and was filmed saying ‘he’s lost the plot’.
-------------------------
This whole thing is a great example of the toxicity around the club at the moment.
No one knows what Rashford said. He got filmed, possibly saying "He's gone mad", but there is no audio. Lip reading isn't that easy and he could just have easily said something completely innocuous.
Secondly, even if he did say that, he could just as easily have been talking about the ref who at one point was dishing out yellow cards to our players like sweets.
In short - please stop making things up.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Rashford said
"That bald Dutch cant has lost the plot and I'm going to get him sacked"
It's been confirmed by sauces available to me.
comment by -bloodred- (U1222)
posted 4 minutes ago
Rashford got booked, very nearly got sent off, then got subbed off and was filmed saying ‘he’s lost the plot’.
-------------------------
This whole thing is a great example of the toxicity around the club at the moment.
No one knows what Rashford said. He got filmed, possibly saying "He's gone mad", but there is no audio. Lip reading isn't that easy and he could just have easily said something completely innocuous.
Secondly, even if he did say that, he could just as easily have been talking about the ref who at one point was dishing out yellow cards to our players like sweets.
In short - please stop making things up.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I think you’re being exceptionally naive. That’s possible yes, but the whole picture around Rashford absolutely stinks. I could list 10 different things we have absolutely confirmed that are out of order, and add to that his numerous ‘leaks’ to the media it all paints a picture that I chose to believe.
His attitude is appalling
comment by Ali - 🇪🇦 🏴 (U1192)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by -bloodred- (U1222)
posted 1 minute ago
Rashford got booked, very nearly got sent off, then got subbed off and was filmed saying ‘he’s lost the plot’.
-------------------------
This whole thing is a great example of the toxicity around the club at the moment.
No one knows what Rashford said. He got filmed, possibly saying "He's gone mad", but there is no audio. Lip reading isn't that easy and he could just have easily said something completely innocuous.
Secondly, even if he did say that, he could just as easily have been talking about the ref who at one point was dishing out yellow cards to our players like sweets.
In short - please stop making things up.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Rashford said
"That bald Dutch cant has lost the plot and I'm going to get him sacked"
It's been confirmed by sauces available to me.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Whats in your pantry then? HP, Tomato, Lea & Perrins...?
(You are right btw)
comment by vidicthelegend VIVA LA REVOLUTION (U8735)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by -bloodred- (U1222)
posted 4 minutes ago
Rashford got booked, very nearly got sent off, then got subbed off and was filmed saying ‘he’s lost the plot’.
-------------------------
This whole thing is a great example of the toxicity around the club at the moment.
No one knows what Rashford said. He got filmed, possibly saying "He's gone mad", but there is no audio. Lip reading isn't that easy and he could just have easily said something completely innocuous.
Secondly, even if he did say that, he could just as easily have been talking about the ref who at one point was dishing out yellow cards to our players like sweets.
In short - please stop making things up.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I think you’re being exceptionally naive.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
No, I am not.
You can say what you want about Rashford's general demenour over the past couple of seasons. But to take a 2 second soundless clip and claim you know what he is saying, and who he is saying it about, is quite frankly ridiculous.
I thought Rashford put a decent shift in yesterday.
The 'He's gone mad' quote was at the ref IMO.
Whilst I agree that the players need to take some responsibility, ultimately it does come down to the manager.
We are indeed a massive club, but there are clubs in similar position to us, both in EPL and in Europe, but I don't think any have struggled as much as we have in the past 10 years.
I really don't know what it is about the general atmosphere and mentality of the club, but I can't believe that most of our players just don't care about what goes on - of course I see what is happening on the pitch, and the players don't get a free pass, but ultimately it's down to the manager.
I have never felt we have had the right manager in place - the right manager would be able to get these players playing in a far better way and have them on side.
In the past 60 odd years, we have basically had the right manager twice - Busby and SAF. Not sure why we are so bad at picking managers, but that's our real issue
comment by vidicthelegend VIVA LA REVOLUTION (U8735)
posted 4 hours, 59 minutes ago
comment by -bloodred- (U1222)
posted 4 minutes ago
Rashford got booked, very nearly got sent off, then got subbed off and was filmed saying ‘he’s lost the plot’.
-------------------------
This whole thing is a great example of the toxicity around the club at the moment.
No one knows what Rashford said. He got filmed, possibly saying "He's gone mad", but there is no audio. Lip reading isn't that easy and he could just have easily said something completely innocuous.
Secondly, even if he did say that, he could just as easily have been talking about the ref who at one point was dishing out yellow cards to our players like sweets.
In short - please stop making things up.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I think you’re being exceptionally naive. That’s possible yes, but the whole picture around Rashford absolutely stinks. I could list 10 different things we have absolutely confirmed that are out of order, and add to that his numerous ‘leaks’ to the media it all paints a picture that I chose to believe.
His attitude is appalling
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I have said before that Rashford is poisonous. Shouldn't be anywhere near this club. Terrible footballer - worse professional.
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posted on 7/10/24
Ten Hag thinks they are improving.
posted on 7/10/24
I think the issue is that United are in limbo at the minute where we are still a massive club in terms of the name and finance they can offer (although that could change soon) but in reality we are not at that level so we have to over pay on wages to get players to come to us. The manifestation of this is that we either get players past their best looking for a pay day, players who other clubs don’t want, or young players. The issue with all this is that the quality is not what is required but also the mentality is not there. Young players who come to United get massive money and they think that’s it, job done, life made and very rarely if ever kick on because they enter a comfort zone, and the older players are either just not good enough anymore or are here just for the payday and don’t really care. This all leads to what we have seen for the last 10 years, which is basically players who either aren’t good enough or don’t care enough.
posted on 7/10/24
Rashford got booked, very nearly got sent off, then got subbed off and was filmed saying ‘he’s lost the plot’.
-------------------------
This whole thing is a great example of the toxicity around the club at the moment.
No one knows what Rashford said. He got filmed, possibly saying "He's gone mad", but there is no audio. Lip reading isn't that easy and he could just have easily said something completely innocuous.
Secondly, even if he did say that, he could just as easily have been talking about the ref who at one point was dishing out yellow cards to our players like sweets.
In short - please stop making things up.
posted on 7/10/24
comment by -bloodred- (U1222)
posted 1 minute ago
Rashford got booked, very nearly got sent off, then got subbed off and was filmed saying ‘he’s lost the plot’.
-------------------------
This whole thing is a great example of the toxicity around the club at the moment.
No one knows what Rashford said. He got filmed, possibly saying "He's gone mad", but there is no audio. Lip reading isn't that easy and he could just have easily said something completely innocuous.
Secondly, even if he did say that, he could just as easily have been talking about the ref who at one point was dishing out yellow cards to our players like sweets.
In short - please stop making things up.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Rashford said
"That bald Dutch cant has lost the plot and I'm going to get him sacked"
It's been confirmed by sauces available to me.
posted on 7/10/24
comment by -bloodred- (U1222)
posted 4 minutes ago
Rashford got booked, very nearly got sent off, then got subbed off and was filmed saying ‘he’s lost the plot’.
-------------------------
This whole thing is a great example of the toxicity around the club at the moment.
No one knows what Rashford said. He got filmed, possibly saying "He's gone mad", but there is no audio. Lip reading isn't that easy and he could just have easily said something completely innocuous.
Secondly, even if he did say that, he could just as easily have been talking about the ref who at one point was dishing out yellow cards to our players like sweets.
In short - please stop making things up.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I think you’re being exceptionally naive. That’s possible yes, but the whole picture around Rashford absolutely stinks. I could list 10 different things we have absolutely confirmed that are out of order, and add to that his numerous ‘leaks’ to the media it all paints a picture that I chose to believe.
His attitude is appalling
posted on 7/10/24
comment by Ali - 🇪🇦 🏴 (U1192)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by -bloodred- (U1222)
posted 1 minute ago
Rashford got booked, very nearly got sent off, then got subbed off and was filmed saying ‘he’s lost the plot’.
-------------------------
This whole thing is a great example of the toxicity around the club at the moment.
No one knows what Rashford said. He got filmed, possibly saying "He's gone mad", but there is no audio. Lip reading isn't that easy and he could just have easily said something completely innocuous.
Secondly, even if he did say that, he could just as easily have been talking about the ref who at one point was dishing out yellow cards to our players like sweets.
In short - please stop making things up.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Rashford said
"That bald Dutch cant has lost the plot and I'm going to get him sacked"
It's been confirmed by sauces available to me.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Whats in your pantry then? HP, Tomato, Lea & Perrins...?
(You are right btw)
posted on 7/10/24
comment by vidicthelegend VIVA LA REVOLUTION (U8735)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by -bloodred- (U1222)
posted 4 minutes ago
Rashford got booked, very nearly got sent off, then got subbed off and was filmed saying ‘he’s lost the plot’.
-------------------------
This whole thing is a great example of the toxicity around the club at the moment.
No one knows what Rashford said. He got filmed, possibly saying "He's gone mad", but there is no audio. Lip reading isn't that easy and he could just have easily said something completely innocuous.
Secondly, even if he did say that, he could just as easily have been talking about the ref who at one point was dishing out yellow cards to our players like sweets.
In short - please stop making things up.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I think you’re being exceptionally naive.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
No, I am not.
You can say what you want about Rashford's general demenour over the past couple of seasons. But to take a 2 second soundless clip and claim you know what he is saying, and who he is saying it about, is quite frankly ridiculous.
posted on 7/10/24
I thought Rashford put a decent shift in yesterday.
The 'He's gone mad' quote was at the ref IMO.
posted on 7/10/24
Whilst I agree that the players need to take some responsibility, ultimately it does come down to the manager.
We are indeed a massive club, but there are clubs in similar position to us, both in EPL and in Europe, but I don't think any have struggled as much as we have in the past 10 years.
I really don't know what it is about the general atmosphere and mentality of the club, but I can't believe that most of our players just don't care about what goes on - of course I see what is happening on the pitch, and the players don't get a free pass, but ultimately it's down to the manager.
I have never felt we have had the right manager in place - the right manager would be able to get these players playing in a far better way and have them on side.
In the past 60 odd years, we have basically had the right manager twice - Busby and SAF. Not sure why we are so bad at picking managers, but that's our real issue
posted on 7/10/24
comment by vidicthelegend VIVA LA REVOLUTION (U8735)
posted 4 hours, 59 minutes ago
comment by -bloodred- (U1222)
posted 4 minutes ago
Rashford got booked, very nearly got sent off, then got subbed off and was filmed saying ‘he’s lost the plot’.
-------------------------
This whole thing is a great example of the toxicity around the club at the moment.
No one knows what Rashford said. He got filmed, possibly saying "He's gone mad", but there is no audio. Lip reading isn't that easy and he could just have easily said something completely innocuous.
Secondly, even if he did say that, he could just as easily have been talking about the ref who at one point was dishing out yellow cards to our players like sweets.
In short - please stop making things up.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I think you’re being exceptionally naive. That’s possible yes, but the whole picture around Rashford absolutely stinks. I could list 10 different things we have absolutely confirmed that are out of order, and add to that his numerous ‘leaks’ to the media it all paints a picture that I chose to believe.
His attitude is appalling
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I have said before that Rashford is poisonous. Shouldn't be anywhere near this club. Terrible footballer - worse professional.
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