All the creativity is on Odegaard and Saka's shoulders that's not a good place to be if we want to win something. We need more than that, can Arteta deliver that I'm not sure right now.
Imagine if Artetadyce had actually had a pair of testicles at City last year you may have won the league.
Tbh I think you’ve a fantastic set of players but I really don’t rate your manager.
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Imagine if Artetadyce had actually had a pair of testicles at City last year you may have won the league.
Tbh I think you’ve a fantastic set of players but I really don’t rate your manager.
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It was the right approach in that particular game we lost the league because we didn't take six points off Fulham and West Ham. Four points off City is a good return. How many times did Klopp go there and win in the league it ain't easy.
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Imagine if Artetadyce had actually had a pair of testicles at City last year you may have won the league.
Tbh I think you’ve a fantastic set of players but I really don’t rate your manager.
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It was the right approach in that particular game we lost the league because we didn't take six points off Fulham and West Ham. Four points off City is a good return. How many times did Klopp go there and win in the league it ain't easy.
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At the time you were the better team, had you played properly you’d have had them.
In defence of Arteta, I’d say Odegaard has been a HUGE loss. He was the beating heart of that midfield, and had been on a consistently superb run of form.
I think he does deserve stick for the attacking options though. Huge fan of Saka (altho I think he’s suffering from being overplayed), but the likes of Havertz (even the improved version), Martinelli and Trossard ain’t quite at the level to win the big prizes IMO.
We didn't actually play defensively today. What were you watching?
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Imagine if Artetadyce had actually had a pair of testicles at City last year you may have won the league.
Tbh I think you’ve a fantastic set of players but I really don’t rate your manager.
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It was the right approach in that particular game we lost the league because we didn't take six points off Fulham and West Ham. Four points off City is a good return. How many times did Klopp go there and win in the league it ain't easy.
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At the time you were the better team, had you played properly you’d have had them.
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It's if and buts but the reality is we went there the season before and played an open game and got battered so I can understand why we were cautious. Our form after Christmas was exceptional and yet it still wasn't enough so City must have been in some good form to finish above us.
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We didn't actually play defensively today. What were you watching?
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We conceded first, obviously we had to go forward.
What did we actually create. We had over 70mins to get back into the game and what did we actually do
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Imagine if Artetadyce had actually had a pair of testicles at City last year you may have won the league.
Tbh I think you’ve a fantastic set of players but I really don’t rate your manager.
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It was the right approach in that particular game we lost the league because we didn't take six points off Fulham and West Ham. Four points off City is a good return. How many times did Klopp go there and win in the league it ain't easy.
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At the time you were the better team, had you played properly you’d have had them.
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"Played properly". What does this even mean. We created more there than klopp did last season.
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Imagine if Artetadyce had actually had a pair of testicles at City last year you may have won the league.
Tbh I think you’ve a fantastic set of players but I really don’t rate your manager.
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It was the right approach in that particular game we lost the league because we didn't take six points off Fulham and West Ham. Four points off City is a good return. How many times did Klopp go there and win in the league it ain't easy.
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At the time you were the better team, had you played properly you’d have had them.
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"Played properly". What does this even mean. We created more there than klopp did last season.
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Yes but we weren’t title contenders like you guys were, we weren’t as good. You were better than City when you played them but bottled the game.
We have no creativity at all, mark Saka out of the game and defend set pieces well and there is nothing we can do. Odegaard is a massive miss but we knew injuries were a risk and still decided to sell ESR, Vieira and until today haven’t given Nwaneri any meaningful minutes so we only have ourselves to blame.
The frustrating thing is that City don’t look all that themselves and if we had any bit of momentum could threaten them but we haven’t clicked as an attacking unit all season.
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Imagine if Artetadyce had actually had a pair of testicles at City last year you may have won the league.
Tbh I think you’ve a fantastic set of players but I really don’t rate your manager.
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It was the right approach in that particular game we lost the league because we didn't take six points off Fulham and West Ham. Four points off City is a good return. How many times did Klopp go there and win in the league it ain't easy.
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At the time you were the better team, had you played properly you’d have had them.
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"Played properly". What does this even mean. We created more there than klopp did last season.
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Yes but we weren’t title contenders like you guys were, we weren’t as good. You were better than City when you played them but bottled the game.
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Are you sure you know what you're talking about here?
Liverpool drew 1-1 at city in November last season. You weren't out of the title race until April.
I know we drew 0-0, but we statistically created more than you did.
Maybe stop going off narratives and just look at the facts.
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In defence of Arteta, I’d say Odegaard has been a HUGE loss.
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How can you defend not having any backup for such a key player given how much we always struggle with injuries and letting ESR go? I know ESR is more of a runner but he is creative in his own way and makes things happen and I have no doubts if we'd had him available since Odegaard got injured we'd have accumulated more points.
Given that we did let ESR go, why did we sign slow Merino who just seems like an average all round CM instead of a playmaker with some potential who could cover for Odegaard.
No real need to mention Fabio V agina, called it the day we signed him that it was a big waste of money and wouldn't work out. Wouldn't have wanted him covering for Odegaard anyway, useless.
We need creative players in the January transfer window but Arteta will either get no one or another defender
So op now can see why we call you lot an expensive allaydce team
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Imagine if Artetadyce had actually had a pair of testicles at City last year you may have won the league.
Tbh I think you’ve a fantastic set of players but I really don’t rate your manager.
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It was the right approach in that particular game we lost the league because we didn't take six points off Fulham and West Ham. Four points off City is a good return. How many times did Klopp go there and win in the league it ain't easy.
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At the time you were the better team, had you played properly you’d have had them.
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100 percent. Farteta and their fans were celebrating the draws
Arsenal will finish the weekend in 6th place.
So if pool finish above us, will that be acceptable?
Arteta and Arsenal had an unbelievable 2 years with Injuries. Saliba wasn’t only important player they lost that first season for an extended period and it cost them the title. Last year their injury situation was incredible, no important player being injured all year for a sustained period.
It’s finally caught up with them and started to even out a bit - they do not have cover anywhere near good enough for Odour guard.
Add in the league finally clamping down on Arsenals dark arts and suddenly they look average again.
Could start getting tough for Arteta as Arsenal are a poor watch, which he could get away with whilst results were good, but when you lose as well, the hiding places start to disappear.
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Arteta and Arsenal had an unbelievable 2 years with Injuries. Saliba wasn’t only important player they lost that first season for an extended period and it cost them the title. Last year their injury situation was incredible, no important player being injured all year for a sustained period.
It’s finally caught up with them and started to even out a bit - they do not have cover anywhere near good enough for Odour guard.
Add in the league finally clamping down on Arsenals dark arts and suddenly they look average again.
Could start getting tough for Arteta as Arsenal are a poor watch, which he could get away with whilst results were good, but when you lose as well, the hiding places start to disappear.
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Partey missed most of last season, Timber missed all of it to say we didn't have any injuries is just revisionism. This nonsense about dark arts when other teams do it it's clever when Arsenal do it then it shouldn't be allowed. The squad isn't good enough and that's on Arteta are we going to win the league probably not but a 2nd or 3rd place finish would be acceptable with a trophy which is still possible.
"The squad isn't good enough and that's on Arteta"
Kroenkes? Edu? Garlic?
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Arteta and Arsenal had an unbelievable 2 years with Injuries. Saliba wasn’t only important player they lost that first season for an extended period and it cost them the title. Last year their injury situation was incredible, no important player being injured all year for a sustained period.
It’s finally caught up with them and started to even out a bit - they do not have cover anywhere near good enough for Odour guard.
Add in the league finally clamping down on Arsenals dark arts and suddenly they look average again.
Could start getting tough for Arteta as Arsenal are a poor watch, which he could get away with whilst results were good, but when you lose as well, the hiding places start to disappear.
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Partey missed most of last season, Timber missed all of it to say we didn't have any injuries is just revisionism. This nonsense about dark arts when other teams do it it's clever when Arsenal do it then it shouldn't be allowed. The squad isn't good enough and that's on Arteta are we going to win the league probably not but a 2nd or 3rd place finish would be acceptable with a trophy which is still possible.
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We had a similar dip in form around Christmas last year. Have to beat Chelsea and get a run together.
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Arsenal will finish the weekend in 6th place.
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We were 5th in January last season
Sometimes being pragmatic is the right approach, sometimes it's not. Sometimes the players you have available forces your hand.
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Sometimes being pragmatic is the right approach, sometimes it's not. Sometimes the players you have available forces your hand.
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Let's face it without Odegaard and Saka playing every single game we are not going to win the league. We just don't have the players to replace them. Also we can definantly upgrade the left winger position.
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posted on 2/11/24
All the creativity is on Odegaard and Saka's shoulders that's not a good place to be if we want to win something. We need more than that, can Arteta deliver that I'm not sure right now.
posted on 2/11/24
Imagine if Artetadyce had actually had a pair of testicles at City last year you may have won the league.
Tbh I think you’ve a fantastic set of players but I really don’t rate your manager.
posted on 2/11/24
comment by Fred: Sign Someone!!!! (U3979)
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Imagine if Artetadyce had actually had a pair of testicles at City last year you may have won the league.
Tbh I think you’ve a fantastic set of players but I really don’t rate your manager.
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It was the right approach in that particular game we lost the league because we didn't take six points off Fulham and West Ham. Four points off City is a good return. How many times did Klopp go there and win in the league it ain't easy.
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Imagine if Artetadyce had actually had a pair of testicles at City last year you may have won the league.
Tbh I think you’ve a fantastic set of players but I really don’t rate your manager.
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It was the right approach in that particular game we lost the league because we didn't take six points off Fulham and West Ham. Four points off City is a good return. How many times did Klopp go there and win in the league it ain't easy.
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At the time you were the better team, had you played properly you’d have had them.
posted on 2/11/24
In defence of Arteta, I’d say Odegaard has been a HUGE loss. He was the beating heart of that midfield, and had been on a consistently superb run of form.
I think he does deserve stick for the attacking options though. Huge fan of Saka (altho I think he’s suffering from being overplayed), but the likes of Havertz (even the improved version), Martinelli and Trossard ain’t quite at the level to win the big prizes IMO.
posted on 2/11/24
We didn't actually play defensively today. What were you watching?
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Imagine if Artetadyce had actually had a pair of testicles at City last year you may have won the league.
Tbh I think you’ve a fantastic set of players but I really don’t rate your manager.
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It was the right approach in that particular game we lost the league because we didn't take six points off Fulham and West Ham. Four points off City is a good return. How many times did Klopp go there and win in the league it ain't easy.
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At the time you were the better team, had you played properly you’d have had them.
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It's if and buts but the reality is we went there the season before and played an open game and got battered so I can understand why we were cautious. Our form after Christmas was exceptional and yet it still wasn't enough so City must have been in some good form to finish above us.
posted on 2/11/24
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We didn't actually play defensively today. What were you watching?
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We conceded first, obviously we had to go forward.
What did we actually create. We had over 70mins to get back into the game and what did we actually do
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Imagine if Artetadyce had actually had a pair of testicles at City last year you may have won the league.
Tbh I think you’ve a fantastic set of players but I really don’t rate your manager.
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It was the right approach in that particular game we lost the league because we didn't take six points off Fulham and West Ham. Four points off City is a good return. How many times did Klopp go there and win in the league it ain't easy.
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At the time you were the better team, had you played properly you’d have had them.
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"Played properly". What does this even mean. We created more there than klopp did last season.
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Imagine if Artetadyce had actually had a pair of testicles at City last year you may have won the league.
Tbh I think you’ve a fantastic set of players but I really don’t rate your manager.
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It was the right approach in that particular game we lost the league because we didn't take six points off Fulham and West Ham. Four points off City is a good return. How many times did Klopp go there and win in the league it ain't easy.
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At the time you were the better team, had you played properly you’d have had them.
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"Played properly". What does this even mean. We created more there than klopp did last season.
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Yes but we weren’t title contenders like you guys were, we weren’t as good. You were better than City when you played them but bottled the game.
posted on 2/11/24
We have no creativity at all, mark Saka out of the game and defend set pieces well and there is nothing we can do. Odegaard is a massive miss but we knew injuries were a risk and still decided to sell ESR, Vieira and until today haven’t given Nwaneri any meaningful minutes so we only have ourselves to blame.
The frustrating thing is that City don’t look all that themselves and if we had any bit of momentum could threaten them but we haven’t clicked as an attacking unit all season.
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Imagine if Artetadyce had actually had a pair of testicles at City last year you may have won the league.
Tbh I think you’ve a fantastic set of players but I really don’t rate your manager.
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It was the right approach in that particular game we lost the league because we didn't take six points off Fulham and West Ham. Four points off City is a good return. How many times did Klopp go there and win in the league it ain't easy.
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At the time you were the better team, had you played properly you’d have had them.
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"Played properly". What does this even mean. We created more there than klopp did last season.
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Yes but we weren’t title contenders like you guys were, we weren’t as good. You were better than City when you played them but bottled the game.
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Are you sure you know what you're talking about here?
Liverpool drew 1-1 at city in November last season. You weren't out of the title race until April.
I know we drew 0-0, but we statistically created more than you did.
Maybe stop going off narratives and just look at the facts.
posted on 2/11/24
comment by Dave The Jackal (U22179)
posted 14 minutes ago
In defence of Arteta, I’d say Odegaard has been a HUGE loss.
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How can you defend not having any backup for such a key player given how much we always struggle with injuries and letting ESR go? I know ESR is more of a runner but he is creative in his own way and makes things happen and I have no doubts if we'd had him available since Odegaard got injured we'd have accumulated more points.
Given that we did let ESR go, why did we sign slow Merino who just seems like an average all round CM instead of a playmaker with some potential who could cover for Odegaard.
No real need to mention Fabio V agina, called it the day we signed him that it was a big waste of money and wouldn't work out. Wouldn't have wanted him covering for Odegaard anyway, useless.
posted on 2/11/24
We need creative players in the January transfer window but Arteta will either get no one or another defender
posted on 2/11/24
So op now can see why we call you lot an expensive allaydce team
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Imagine if Artetadyce had actually had a pair of testicles at City last year you may have won the league.
Tbh I think you’ve a fantastic set of players but I really don’t rate your manager.
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It was the right approach in that particular game we lost the league because we didn't take six points off Fulham and West Ham. Four points off City is a good return. How many times did Klopp go there and win in the league it ain't easy.
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At the time you were the better team, had you played properly you’d have had them.
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100 percent. Farteta and their fans were celebrating the draws
posted on 2/11/24
Arsenal will finish the weekend in 6th place.
posted on 2/11/24
So if pool finish above us, will that be acceptable?
posted on 2/11/24
Arteta and Arsenal had an unbelievable 2 years with Injuries. Saliba wasn’t only important player they lost that first season for an extended period and it cost them the title. Last year their injury situation was incredible, no important player being injured all year for a sustained period.
It’s finally caught up with them and started to even out a bit - they do not have cover anywhere near good enough for Odour guard.
Add in the league finally clamping down on Arsenals dark arts and suddenly they look average again.
Could start getting tough for Arteta as Arsenal are a poor watch, which he could get away with whilst results were good, but when you lose as well, the hiding places start to disappear.
posted on 2/11/24
comment by Striketeam7 - staying humble (U18109)
posted 47 minutes ago
Arteta and Arsenal had an unbelievable 2 years with Injuries. Saliba wasn’t only important player they lost that first season for an extended period and it cost them the title. Last year their injury situation was incredible, no important player being injured all year for a sustained period.
It’s finally caught up with them and started to even out a bit - they do not have cover anywhere near good enough for Odour guard.
Add in the league finally clamping down on Arsenals dark arts and suddenly they look average again.
Could start getting tough for Arteta as Arsenal are a poor watch, which he could get away with whilst results were good, but when you lose as well, the hiding places start to disappear.
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Partey missed most of last season, Timber missed all of it to say we didn't have any injuries is just revisionism. This nonsense about dark arts when other teams do it it's clever when Arsenal do it then it shouldn't be allowed. The squad isn't good enough and that's on Arteta are we going to win the league probably not but a 2nd or 3rd place finish would be acceptable with a trophy which is still possible.
posted on 2/11/24
"The squad isn't good enough and that's on Arteta"
Kroenkes? Edu? Garlic?
posted on 2/11/24
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comment by Striketeam7 - staying humble (U18109)
posted 47 minutes ago
Arteta and Arsenal had an unbelievable 2 years with Injuries. Saliba wasn’t only important player they lost that first season for an extended period and it cost them the title. Last year their injury situation was incredible, no important player being injured all year for a sustained period.
It’s finally caught up with them and started to even out a bit - they do not have cover anywhere near good enough for Odour guard.
Add in the league finally clamping down on Arsenals dark arts and suddenly they look average again.
Could start getting tough for Arteta as Arsenal are a poor watch, which he could get away with whilst results were good, but when you lose as well, the hiding places start to disappear.
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Partey missed most of last season, Timber missed all of it to say we didn't have any injuries is just revisionism. This nonsense about dark arts when other teams do it it's clever when Arsenal do it then it shouldn't be allowed. The squad isn't good enough and that's on Arteta are we going to win the league probably not but a 2nd or 3rd place finish would be acceptable with a trophy which is still possible.
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We had a similar dip in form around Christmas last year. Have to beat Chelsea and get a run together.
posted on 2/11/24
comment by Pessimistic (U22980)
posted 3 hours, 20 minutes ago
Arsenal will finish the weekend in 6th place.
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We were 5th in January last season
posted on 2/11/24
Sometimes being pragmatic is the right approach, sometimes it's not. Sometimes the players you have available forces your hand.
posted on 2/11/24
comment by T-BAD (U11806)
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Sometimes being pragmatic is the right approach, sometimes it's not. Sometimes the players you have available forces your hand.
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Let's face it without Odegaard and Saka playing every single game we are not going to win the league. We just don't have the players to replace them. Also we can definantly upgrade the left winger position.
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