I do believe 'most' United fans are very patient. I think on 606 the core United supporters are perhaps not, but when you hear the fans on matchday I think for the most part they are patient.
I'm confident Amorim will be given time, whether it works out or not is a other question
United fans are patient. The media aren't.
The problem is the difference in salaries the players you've listed would have been on compared to the United players.
All them players were snapped up pretty quick. A lot on this board are shouting for Rashford, Sancho, Antony, Mount and Harry to be sold. We'd be lucky to get Coutinho money for the lot of them.
Yes a lot of United's deadwood is on such high wages they'll struggle to get any fee at all for them and may even just need to either pay them off to leave or let them rot in the reserves. It's what we had to do with a few non team players when Arteta became manager.
Whether the money men at United would sanction that sort of action I'm unsure.
comment by Custardeyes (U4500)
posted 38 minutes ago
The problem is the difference in salaries the players you've listed would have been on compared to the United players.
All them players were snapped up pretty quick. A lot on this board are shouting for Rashford, Sancho, Antony, Mount and Harry to be sold. We'd be lucky to get Coutinho money for the lot of them.
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Yes, that is a good point, but if you look at the list, take into account how many player Klopp let go on a free.
His first 5 players he released were on a free. A few were on decent wages if I remember:-
Lazar Markovic
Alberto Moreno
Daniel Sturridge
Nathaniel Clyne
Adam Lallana
All of them were moved on without a fee. Even toward the end he allowed Booby Firmino, Naby Keita and Oxlade Chamberlain all go for nothing.
He was allowed to be pretty ruthless. That is another issue MUFC have had, they have been reluctant to allow average players just walk away, well except for David DeGea and he was one they should have kept.
Also, can Admin put this on the UTD board as well ?
I think Klopp and Arteta have shown it can be done with a good team above them and sufficient backing in the market, although Arteta hasn't taken that final step to success.
In some sense though I feel that these successes bough ETH more time, because the club wanted to follow a similar model, but they just ended up dragging out a bad situation.
comment by LordDowlias (U3236)
posted 6 hours, 26 minutes ago
comment by Custardeyes (U4500)
posted 38 minutes ago
The problem is the difference in salaries the players you've listed would have been on compared to the United players.
All them players were snapped up pretty quick. A lot on this board are shouting for Rashford, Sancho, Antony, Mount and Harry to be sold. We'd be lucky to get Coutinho money for the lot of them.
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Yes, that is a good point, but if you look at the list, take into account how many player Klopp let go on a free.
His first 5 players he released were on a free. A few were on decent wages if I remember:-
Lazar Markovic
Alberto Moreno
Daniel Sturridge
Nathaniel Clyne
Adam Lallana
All of them were moved on without a fee. Even toward the end he allowed Booby Firmino, Naby Keita and Oxlade Chamberlain all go for nothing.
He was allowed to be pretty ruthless. That is another issue MUFC have had, they have been reluctant to allow average players just walk away, well except for David DeGea and he was one they should have kept.
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This is mistaken.
Sturridge has a CL winners medal. Lallana has CL & PL winner medals. They were both part of Klopp's peak LFC squads.
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posted on 5/11/24
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posted on 5/11/24
I do believe 'most' United fans are very patient. I think on 606 the core United supporters are perhaps not, but when you hear the fans on matchday I think for the most part they are patient.
I'm confident Amorim will be given time, whether it works out or not is a other question
posted on 5/11/24
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posted on 5/11/24
United fans are patient. The media aren't.
posted on 5/11/24
The problem is the difference in salaries the players you've listed would have been on compared to the United players.
All them players were snapped up pretty quick. A lot on this board are shouting for Rashford, Sancho, Antony, Mount and Harry to be sold. We'd be lucky to get Coutinho money for the lot of them.
posted on 5/11/24
Yes a lot of United's deadwood is on such high wages they'll struggle to get any fee at all for them and may even just need to either pay them off to leave or let them rot in the reserves. It's what we had to do with a few non team players when Arteta became manager.
Whether the money men at United would sanction that sort of action I'm unsure.
posted on 5/11/24
comment by Custardeyes (U4500)
posted 38 minutes ago
The problem is the difference in salaries the players you've listed would have been on compared to the United players.
All them players were snapped up pretty quick. A lot on this board are shouting for Rashford, Sancho, Antony, Mount and Harry to be sold. We'd be lucky to get Coutinho money for the lot of them.
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Yes, that is a good point, but if you look at the list, take into account how many player Klopp let go on a free.
His first 5 players he released were on a free. A few were on decent wages if I remember:-
Lazar Markovic
Alberto Moreno
Daniel Sturridge
Nathaniel Clyne
Adam Lallana
All of them were moved on without a fee. Even toward the end he allowed Booby Firmino, Naby Keita and Oxlade Chamberlain all go for nothing.
He was allowed to be pretty ruthless. That is another issue MUFC have had, they have been reluctant to allow average players just walk away, well except for David DeGea and he was one they should have kept.
posted on 5/11/24
*Bobby
posted on 5/11/24
Also, can Admin put this on the UTD board as well ?
posted on 5/11/24
I think Klopp and Arteta have shown it can be done with a good team above them and sufficient backing in the market, although Arteta hasn't taken that final step to success.
In some sense though I feel that these successes bough ETH more time, because the club wanted to follow a similar model, but they just ended up dragging out a bad situation.
posted on 5/11/24
comment by LordDowlias (U3236)
posted 6 hours, 26 minutes ago
comment by Custardeyes (U4500)
posted 38 minutes ago
The problem is the difference in salaries the players you've listed would have been on compared to the United players.
All them players were snapped up pretty quick. A lot on this board are shouting for Rashford, Sancho, Antony, Mount and Harry to be sold. We'd be lucky to get Coutinho money for the lot of them.
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Yes, that is a good point, but if you look at the list, take into account how many player Klopp let go on a free.
His first 5 players he released were on a free. A few were on decent wages if I remember:-
Lazar Markovic
Alberto Moreno
Daniel Sturridge
Nathaniel Clyne
Adam Lallana
All of them were moved on without a fee. Even toward the end he allowed Booby Firmino, Naby Keita and Oxlade Chamberlain all go for nothing.
He was allowed to be pretty ruthless. That is another issue MUFC have had, they have been reluctant to allow average players just walk away, well except for David DeGea and he was one they should have kept.
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This is mistaken.
Sturridge has a CL winners medal. Lallana has CL & PL winner medals. They were both part of Klopp's peak LFC squads.
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