One of the fan cam idiots went viral the other day by approaching Garnacho while he was signing autographs and basically criticising him to his face. He looked visibly peed off. His brother is also all over social media and talks United a lot, so yeah presumably he sees a lot of it.

Criticism of him is way, way over the top though. He is still very raw, but he's just turned 20 and he's currently our most productive player. People really should cut him some slack. I've said for a while, I think if/when he gets a bit of consistency with his end product, he'll explode. He is already very good at getting himself into goalscoring opportunities, which not many at his age are. There's easily a 20/25-goal a season player in there.

That being said, he needs to learn to ignore shīt like this.

Not saying he’ll get anywhere close to CR7 levels but as bloodred says I do think his productivity will explode.

His productivity is better than CR7’s at the same age.

SAF protected and managed Ronaldo’s minutes far more though which was beneficial.

Under the right manager I think he's going to be one of your best players.

Most of the criticism on here seems to have been aimed at the manager constantly picking him when it was clear he was out of form and Amad had impressed previously

No point in him not being "overplayed".

There are currently no better alternatives available. It's his job, he's good at it and he has GENUINE "potential" (an oft overused expression on this forum).

Sometimes it's obviously true, whereas it is (too) often just hyperbole.

The problem is that Fernandes was supposedly bought in to be a PART of a great squad. He's since be expected to carrying some journeymen and even some real dross - consequently he has become the club's only true quality player. And kudos to him for keeping at it

It should never have been that way.

Garnacho is just about the only help he is going to get in being part of a great team at the moment.

Hojlund and Zirkzee may be part of that - time will tell - but the club also needs better defenders than the dross they currently have - maguire and shaw are excepted from this description but then there are availability issues involved in those two.

it's a mess to be frank, but neither garnacho or fernandes are contributing to that mess - they just need better around them ...

So why do some 'fans' hammer him (and other players) on SM sutes (like this site's match thread) when he doesnt do exactly as you think he should be doing?

Hes going to be one of our best players for years if he progresses under INEOS and United can keep him from Real Madrid.

There's a hell of a lot of expectation on him (same with Mainoo, and will probably be the same with Yoro when fit) and combining that with playing in a struggling team, and it's bound to be tough.

And sadly the easiest thing to do is overplay them because the team is struggling.

Hopefully under Amorim our forward line will be rotated accordingly to help their development and consistency - of course players should be criticised if its deserved, but it needs to be constructive - that's where a strong coach is required to make that communication effectively.

Not to be that person but poor performance deserves an adequate response, best from the manager. If the manager does not defend them during these periods of poor form, they'll expose them to the supporters.

All garnacho needed was to be rested, benched, whatever you call it so he could calm down and look at the game with calm eyes. His reaction is also right. Cuddling the players has never helped them, not from the manager, not from the supporters. It's man utd, pressure is implied.

comment by Glen Bulb (U1449)
posted 10 hours, 56 minutes ago
Most of the criticism on here seems to have been aimed at the manager constantly picking him when it was clear he was out of form and Amad had impressed previously
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Forget Garnacho....Erik Ten Hag was picking Antony and Omari Forson at times ahead of Amad last season.

Oh and we haven't had a left back for almost a year now and the one we gave away is ripping it up for Benfica. Scored against Porto yesterday in a 4-1 win.

Genuinely hurts my brain how we had so many people defending that clown.

Sometimes hindsight can be helpful, but given both Malacia's and Shaw's injury record, you think we would have kept Carreras. At least we have a buy back clause on Carreras, for about £16 million I believe.

Every manager I am sure has let players go that could turn out very well, so i don't necessarily criticise ETH for that.

But let's move on from him now. Isn't Malacia back in full training now?

Criticism is part of the game, especially at this level. Saying that, I'm sure being a 20 year old surrounded by social media these days is very different to the kind of criticism you got only 5-10 years ago.

I'd assume clubs offer help and support for these issues and hopefully he has family and the right kind of friends around him. But the truth is to make it at the top you have to be able to take criticism and grow from it.

I do think people easily forget how young some players are and expect them to be the finished article far too soon. Clearly he isn't perfect but he's doing very well I don't see why he won't continue to improve, I think I read only Yamal has more G/A than he does for a player under 21 in the top 5 leagues this season.

His biggest obstacle will be how he fits into Amorim's set up? I'd imagine he's a highly intelligent manager who isn't strict in his system and formations but based on how he set up Sporting it is difficult to see where Garnacho would fit, but I'm sure if he's good enough he will do.

I think the main difference today is that the criticism is probably more vitriolic than ever and with SM can be in your face 24 hrs a day.

Some players will cope better than others.

But you also have to accept that playing for a big club like Utd will come with its 'issues', and you just need to try and handle that as best you can. with support from the club.

That's when a good club and the management come in, giving you the support you need but developing you as well. Ultimately there will always be players who cope better than others.

But the likes of Garnacho, Mainoo and Yoro etc need time, but I genuinely feel under Amorim they have the right type of manager to help them with this.

Bruno deserves credit for his words also - I have always felt that on the field he isn't skipper material, but he he does generally talk well off the pitch when interviewed

Isn't Garnacho's brother quite vocal and present on social media, I'm sure I've read that before. Probably not the best thing for a player, especially one so young.

I don't think playing Garnacho or not playing him has anything to do with it. Dropping him won't do anything either.

His game's just not been developed since he broke through into the first team. It's that simple. When he first came through he surprised defences with his pace, trickery and guile to get into dangerous positions and cause defences problems.

But you have to grow as a player, learn to adapt your game. He's doing the same thing he was 2 years ago. There's been no work done with him on his link up play, his movement, even how to take on players, or his finishing.

And he's not the only one. Rashford, Bruno, Antony, Mctominay. Even Greenwood in his last 6 months was doing the same things over and over again and becoming largely ineffective.

When you think about Ronaldo in his first season, probably two, he had raw talent but needed to be coached and developed, as well as being bulked up. Luckily we had Fergie and Queiroz who did just that and made him the player he became. We've had fck all like that in the past 5 yrs and it's no surprise players who've come through look one-dimensional and predictable and getting found out for it.

Hopefully now with Amorim and his coaching staff coming in we can finally put that right. That's the onlu way some of our players including Garnacho will improve.

comment by manutd1982 (U6633)
posted 3 minutes ago
Isn't Garnacho's brother quite vocal and present on social media, I'm sure I've read that before. Probably not the best thing for a player, especially one so young.
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He clearly has developed, that isn't to say he's finished developing but he's a better all round player than he was 2 years ago.

Let's also take into account how sh-t the team as a whole have been the past season and a bit and that will obviously have an impact on any players own contribution.

I think it is so difficult to tell how well the players have developed, because they were always playing in a struggling team. I think ETH was developing them to some degree, but because he couldn't really communicate what he wanted the team to do, we weren't seeing the fruits of his labour.

I think Amorim will be better in doing that, and hence improve a lot of players that are here.

I am assuming people forget Ronaldo went through a bad spell, he literally was benched for a long period of time. Every player needs that rest, especially now when games comes thick and fast.

I'm waiting for Barcas nee boy to burn out.

He was dropped yesterday for muscular overload. Hopefully Barca have learnt their lesson, although they'd be pretty screwed if they had to rest all their La Masia kids, they've been incredible this season.

I saw that he gave his shirt to a young fan who was chanting his name all game next to the dugout, heave him a hug and a thank you.

This is probably being blown out of proportion, if anything it’s probably Bruno asking the fans to support the team, himself included.

But that’s hard when you see the likes of Rashford and Bruno making the same mistakes week in week out.

Bruno is our best and most creative player. Yes hes been crap this season but so have all he other players and the team as a whole. They have been diabolicle under Ten Hag for a while now, If you watch United games you can see him on the big pitch conduct most of United's creative pasages of play on the front foot which have been wofeully lacking this season so far. He gave his shirt to that lad cos hes one of the good ones in life. He also knows that United supporters in the ground at OT will always support the team no matter who the manager is or wheter any players givesa ypung lad his match shirt. And its never hard to support United at Old Trafford. In fact I would say its almost impossible for a United supporter.

comment by RB&W - He kicked lumps out of them (U21434)
posted 19 minutes ago
Bruno is our best and most creative player. Yes hes been crap this season but so have all he other players and the team as a whole. They have been diabolicle under Ten Hag for a while now, If you watch United games you can see him on the big pitch conduct most of United's creative pasages of play on the front foot which have been wofeully lacking this season so far. He gave his shirt to that lad cos hes one of the good ones in life. He also knows that United supporters in the ground at OT will always support the team no matter who the manager is or wheter any players givesa ypung lad his match shirt. And its never hard to support United at Old Trafford. In fact I would say its almost impossible for a United supporter.
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People act like it's just been this season that Bruno hasn't been very good. He's been pretty poor for large chunks of the last of the last 3 seasons.

Brilliant on his day but I don't get the narrative that he's our best player.

He's still our best player though. No one has stood out over the past few years for a period of time.

Of course there are issues with Bruno and an argument can be made that maybe the side could move forward better without him but without doubt Bruno is our best and most influencial player.

comment by The Process (U20671)
posted 1 hour, 1 minute ago
comment by RB&W - He kicked lumps out of them (U21434)
posted 19 minutes ago
Bruno is our best and most creative player. Yes hes been crap this season but so have all he other players and the team as a whole. They have been diabolicle under Ten Hag for a while now, If you watch United games you can see him on the big pitch conduct most of United's creative pasages of play on the front foot which have been wofeully lacking this season so far. He gave his shirt to that lad cos hes one of the good ones in life. He also knows that United supporters in the ground at OT will always support the team no matter who the manager is or wheter any players givesa ypung lad his match shirt. And its never hard to support United at Old Trafford. In fact I would say its almost impossible for a United supporter.
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People act like it's just been this season that Bruno hasn't been very good. He's been pretty poor for large chunks of the last of the last 3 seasons.

Brilliant on his day but I don't get the narrative that he's our best player.
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Whom do you think our best player is?

comment by The Process (U20671)
posted 1 hour ago
comment by RB&W - He kicked lumps out of them (U21434)
posted 19 minutes ago
Bruno is our best and most creative player. Yes hes been crap this season but so have all he other players and the team as a whole. They have been diabolicle under Ten Hag for a while now, If you watch United games you can see him on the big pitch conduct most of United's creative pasages of play on the front foot which have been wofeully lacking this season so far. He gave his shirt to that lad cos hes one of the good ones in life. He also knows that United supporters in the ground at OT will always support the team no matter who the manager is or wheter any players givesa ypung lad his match shirt. And its never hard to support United at Old Trafford. In fact I would say its almost impossible for a United supporter.
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People act like it's just been this season that Bruno hasn't been very good. He's been pretty poor for large chunks of the last of the last 3 seasons.

Brilliant on his day but I don't get the narrative that he's our best player.
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He is absolutely not our best player. I can count the number of his good games for the last year or so on the fingers of one hand. The problem with Bruno (and it’s a huge problem) is that when things go wrong for him, his creative power becomes a force of self destruction that profits to opponent. Sometimes, even when he scores or assists, his overall influence on the game is negative.