We've played City (h), United (a), Arsenal (a), Chelsea (h) Brighton (h) and Villa (h)
Wouldn't call that as easy a start as some make out. Plus wevw played the likes of Leverkusen, AC Milan and Real Madrid in the CL.
I forget that Arsenal have to come to Anfield, that gives me a little more confidence actually.
I think Chelsea are going to be a much bigger threat than anybody expected.
Arsenal game is also game 35 so they don't have any opportunity to take points off us directly until then, by which point it might be too late.
Lets not forget weve done it without Alisson, Jota and Elliot. Options to come back
comment by Rouge (U19907)
posted 31 minutes ago
Lets not forget weve done it without Alisson, Jota and Elliot. Options to come back
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Yep. Crazy to think we've still got our best finisher to return.
Yeah I see Arsenal going on a run from now until the end of Jan tbh
They've had a difficult start and they are still second but the flip side is Arsenal's problem is not the weaker teams...it's Arteta bricking himself in the big games.
From their perspective though they're probably looking at that start, being 2nd and only 9 points off top with optimism. Still a lot of football to be played
comment by Michael Edwards FC 2.0 loading…{Proud owner of the 5 000 000th comment} (U2720)
posted 7 minutes ago
Yeah I see Arsenal going on a run from now until the end of Jan tbh
They've had a difficult start and they are still second but the flip side is Arsenal's problem is not the weaker teams...it's Arteta bricking himself in the big games.
From their perspective though they're probably looking at that start, being 2nd and only 9 points off top with optimism. Still a lot of football to be played
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You say that but Arsenal lost against Bournemouth and Newcastle, think those are their only losses this season?
Fully expect them to play for a point at Anfield whatever happens until then though. I do think United may get something from the game midweek though, that 4-0 vs Everton will give them huge confidence.
comment by Fred Slot (U3979)
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comment by Michael Edwards FC 2.0 loading…{Proud owner of the 5 000 000th comment} (U2720)
posted 7 minutes ago
Yeah I see Arsenal going on a run from now until the end of Jan tbh
They've had a difficult start and they are still second but the flip side is Arsenal's problem is not the weaker teams...it's Arteta bricking himself in the big games.
From their perspective though they're probably looking at that start, being 2nd and only 9 points off top with optimism. Still a lot of football to be played
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You say that but Arsenal lost against Bournemouth and Newcastle, think those are their only losses this season?
Fully expect them to play for a point at Anfield whatever happens until then though. I do think United may get something from the game midweek though, that 4-0 vs Everton will give them huge confidence.
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Odegaard being back seems to be key for them. If they were to lose him for any length of time again they could be screwed.
comment by Peter O'Hanraha-hanrahan (U1217)
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comment by Fred Slot (U3979)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Michael Edwards FC 2.0 loading…{Proud owner of the 5 000 000th comment} (U2720)
posted 7 minutes ago
Yeah I see Arsenal going on a run from now until the end of Jan tbh
They've had a difficult start and they are still second but the flip side is Arsenal's problem is not the weaker teams...it's Arteta bricking himself in the big games.
From their perspective though they're probably looking at that start, being 2nd and only 9 points off top with optimism. Still a lot of football to be played
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You say that but Arsenal lost against Bournemouth and Newcastle, think those are their only losses this season?
Fully expect them to play for a point at Anfield whatever happens until then though. I do think United may get something from the game midweek though, that 4-0 vs Everton will give them huge confidence.
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Odegaard being back seems to be key for them. If they were to lose him for any length of time again they could be screwed.
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Arsenal get immeasurably lucky with injuries though, especially compared to us and City.
A team can win the league by winning 95% of their home matches and 12 way games. This will get you to 90 points.
Liverpool have won pretty much the the most difficult home games and on course to win 95% of home matches.
They have won 5 away matches and drawn one. They now require to win 6-7 more away matches and keep up the home form against less difficult opponents.
comment by Fred Slot (U3979)
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comment by Peter O'Hanraha-hanrahan (U1217)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Fred Slot (U3979)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Michael Edwards FC 2.0 loading…{Proud owner of the 5 000 000th comment} (U2720)
posted 7 minutes ago
Yeah I see Arsenal going on a run from now until the end of Jan tbh
They've had a difficult start and they are still second but the flip side is Arsenal's problem is not the weaker teams...it's Arteta bricking himself in the big games.
From their perspective though they're probably looking at that start, being 2nd and only 9 points off top with optimism. Still a lot of football to be played
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You say that but Arsenal lost against Bournemouth and Newcastle, think those are their only losses this season?
Fully expect them to play for a point at Anfield whatever happens until then though. I do think United may get something from the game midweek though, that 4-0 vs Everton will give them huge confidence.
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Odegaard being back seems to be key for them. If they were to lose him for any length of time again they could be screwed.
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Arsenal get immeasurably lucky with injuries though, especially compared to us and City.
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Attributing their poor form to Odegaard's injury doesn't say much for their squad strength. Same with City and Rodri, which I find weird.
Meanwhile we've had injuries to players like Ali, Trent and Jota amongst others and cracked on. If we do win it that, IMO, will be the reason.
I would expect Arsenal to win all their games on December but they do actually have quite a tough Jan coming up.
Brentford and Brighton away, followed by Spurs and Villa at home before Wolves away and then finally City at home.
9 points is a decent lead and puts you lot as firm favourites. Up to us to reduce that lead as if it gets any larger then it is curtains.
I detest the lazy term of being branded as bottlers as losing a title over 38 games can be down to so many things. However, Xmas will be key - if your lead is down to a more manageable 5 or 6 points by the new year then game on.
I mean you can only beat whats in front of you and its not your fault your three toughest league games have come at awful times for the opposition, You've been given a decent start and you've absolutely made the most of it and given the manager an amazing platform to build on so fair play.
Too early to talk about the title but you must be favourites now and I'd rather you than City all in all, if it cant be Arsenal.
comment by T-BAD (U11806)
posted 14 minutes ago
I mean you can only beat whats in front of you and its not your fault your three toughest league games have come at awful times for the opposition, You've been given a decent start and you've absolutely made the most of it and given the manager an amazing platform to build on so fair play.
Too early to talk about the title but you must be favourites now and I'd rather you than City all in all, if it cant be Arsenal.
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The Chelsea game came at a fairly decent time for them.
comment by Peter O'Hanraha-hanrahan (U1217)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by T-BAD (U11806)
posted 14 minutes ago
I mean you can only beat whats in front of you and its not your fault your three toughest league games have come at awful times for the opposition, You've been given a decent start and you've absolutely made the most of it and given the manager an amazing platform to build on so fair play.
Too early to talk about the title but you must be favourites now and I'd rather you than City all in all, if it cant be Arsenal.
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The Chelsea game came at a fairly decent time for them.
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I guess but I never had that down as anything other than a win for you. I meant the games against Arsenal, City & Villa as they were the 3 I had you down as potentially dropping points.
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posted 2 hours ago
comment by Peter O'Hanraha-hanrahan (U1217)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by T-BAD (U11806)
posted 14 minutes ago
I mean you can only beat whats in front of you and its not your fault your three toughest league games have come at awful times for the opposition, You've been given a decent start and you've absolutely made the most of it and given the manager an amazing platform to build on so fair play.
Too early to talk about the title but you must be favourites now and I'd rather you than City all in all, if it cant be Arsenal.
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The Chelsea game came at a fairly decent time for them.
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I guess but I never had that down as anything other than a win for you. I meant the games against Arsenal, City & Villa as they were the 3 I had you down as potentially dropping points.
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Ah well if you had that down as a win then it can't have been a tough game of course.
Would you have expected to lose that game then?
I didn't necessarily expect us to lose but it's certainly a game anyone can drop points in.
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posted on 2/12/24
We've played City (h), United (a), Arsenal (a), Chelsea (h) Brighton (h) and Villa (h)
Wouldn't call that as easy a start as some make out. Plus wevw played the likes of Leverkusen, AC Milan and Real Madrid in the CL.
posted on 2/12/24
I forget that Arsenal have to come to Anfield, that gives me a little more confidence actually.
I think Chelsea are going to be a much bigger threat than anybody expected.
posted on 2/12/24
Arsenal game is also game 35 so they don't have any opportunity to take points off us directly until then, by which point it might be too late.
posted on 2/12/24
Lets not forget weve done it without Alisson, Jota and Elliot. Options to come back
posted on 2/12/24
comment by Rouge (U19907)
posted 31 minutes ago
Lets not forget weve done it without Alisson, Jota and Elliot. Options to come back
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Yep. Crazy to think we've still got our best finisher to return.
posted on 2/12/24
Yeah I see Arsenal going on a run from now until the end of Jan tbh
They've had a difficult start and they are still second but the flip side is Arsenal's problem is not the weaker teams...it's Arteta bricking himself in the big games.
From their perspective though they're probably looking at that start, being 2nd and only 9 points off top with optimism. Still a lot of football to be played
posted on 2/12/24
comment by Michael Edwards FC 2.0 loading…{Proud owner of the 5 000 000th comment} (U2720)
posted 7 minutes ago
Yeah I see Arsenal going on a run from now until the end of Jan tbh
They've had a difficult start and they are still second but the flip side is Arsenal's problem is not the weaker teams...it's Arteta bricking himself in the big games.
From their perspective though they're probably looking at that start, being 2nd and only 9 points off top with optimism. Still a lot of football to be played
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You say that but Arsenal lost against Bournemouth and Newcastle, think those are their only losses this season?
Fully expect them to play for a point at Anfield whatever happens until then though. I do think United may get something from the game midweek though, that 4-0 vs Everton will give them huge confidence.
posted on 2/12/24
comment by Fred Slot (U3979)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Michael Edwards FC 2.0 loading…{Proud owner of the 5 000 000th comment} (U2720)
posted 7 minutes ago
Yeah I see Arsenal going on a run from now until the end of Jan tbh
They've had a difficult start and they are still second but the flip side is Arsenal's problem is not the weaker teams...it's Arteta bricking himself in the big games.
From their perspective though they're probably looking at that start, being 2nd and only 9 points off top with optimism. Still a lot of football to be played
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You say that but Arsenal lost against Bournemouth and Newcastle, think those are their only losses this season?
Fully expect them to play for a point at Anfield whatever happens until then though. I do think United may get something from the game midweek though, that 4-0 vs Everton will give them huge confidence.
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Odegaard being back seems to be key for them. If they were to lose him for any length of time again they could be screwed.
posted on 2/12/24
comment by Peter O'Hanraha-hanrahan (U1217)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Fred Slot (U3979)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Michael Edwards FC 2.0 loading…{Proud owner of the 5 000 000th comment} (U2720)
posted 7 minutes ago
Yeah I see Arsenal going on a run from now until the end of Jan tbh
They've had a difficult start and they are still second but the flip side is Arsenal's problem is not the weaker teams...it's Arteta bricking himself in the big games.
From their perspective though they're probably looking at that start, being 2nd and only 9 points off top with optimism. Still a lot of football to be played
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You say that but Arsenal lost against Bournemouth and Newcastle, think those are their only losses this season?
Fully expect them to play for a point at Anfield whatever happens until then though. I do think United may get something from the game midweek though, that 4-0 vs Everton will give them huge confidence.
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Odegaard being back seems to be key for them. If they were to lose him for any length of time again they could be screwed.
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Arsenal get immeasurably lucky with injuries though, especially compared to us and City.
posted on 2/12/24
A team can win the league by winning 95% of their home matches and 12 way games. This will get you to 90 points.
Liverpool have won pretty much the the most difficult home games and on course to win 95% of home matches.
They have won 5 away matches and drawn one. They now require to win 6-7 more away matches and keep up the home form against less difficult opponents.
posted on 2/12/24
comment by Fred Slot (U3979)
posted 10 minutes ago
comment by Peter O'Hanraha-hanrahan (U1217)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Fred Slot (U3979)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Michael Edwards FC 2.0 loading…{Proud owner of the 5 000 000th comment} (U2720)
posted 7 minutes ago
Yeah I see Arsenal going on a run from now until the end of Jan tbh
They've had a difficult start and they are still second but the flip side is Arsenal's problem is not the weaker teams...it's Arteta bricking himself in the big games.
From their perspective though they're probably looking at that start, being 2nd and only 9 points off top with optimism. Still a lot of football to be played
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You say that but Arsenal lost against Bournemouth and Newcastle, think those are their only losses this season?
Fully expect them to play for a point at Anfield whatever happens until then though. I do think United may get something from the game midweek though, that 4-0 vs Everton will give them huge confidence.
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Odegaard being back seems to be key for them. If they were to lose him for any length of time again they could be screwed.
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Arsenal get immeasurably lucky with injuries though, especially compared to us and City.
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Attributing their poor form to Odegaard's injury doesn't say much for their squad strength. Same with City and Rodri, which I find weird.
Meanwhile we've had injuries to players like Ali, Trent and Jota amongst others and cracked on. If we do win it that, IMO, will be the reason.
posted on 2/12/24
I would expect Arsenal to win all their games on December but they do actually have quite a tough Jan coming up.
Brentford and Brighton away, followed by Spurs and Villa at home before Wolves away and then finally City at home.
posted on 2/12/24
9 points is a decent lead and puts you lot as firm favourites. Up to us to reduce that lead as if it gets any larger then it is curtains.
I detest the lazy term of being branded as bottlers as losing a title over 38 games can be down to so many things. However, Xmas will be key - if your lead is down to a more manageable 5 or 6 points by the new year then game on.
posted on 2/12/24
I mean you can only beat whats in front of you and its not your fault your three toughest league games have come at awful times for the opposition, You've been given a decent start and you've absolutely made the most of it and given the manager an amazing platform to build on so fair play.
Too early to talk about the title but you must be favourites now and I'd rather you than City all in all, if it cant be Arsenal.
posted on 2/12/24
comment by T-BAD (U11806)
posted 14 minutes ago
I mean you can only beat whats in front of you and its not your fault your three toughest league games have come at awful times for the opposition, You've been given a decent start and you've absolutely made the most of it and given the manager an amazing platform to build on so fair play.
Too early to talk about the title but you must be favourites now and I'd rather you than City all in all, if it cant be Arsenal.
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The Chelsea game came at a fairly decent time for them.
posted on 2/12/24
comment by Peter O'Hanraha-hanrahan (U1217)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by T-BAD (U11806)
posted 14 minutes ago
I mean you can only beat whats in front of you and its not your fault your three toughest league games have come at awful times for the opposition, You've been given a decent start and you've absolutely made the most of it and given the manager an amazing platform to build on so fair play.
Too early to talk about the title but you must be favourites now and I'd rather you than City all in all, if it cant be Arsenal.
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The Chelsea game came at a fairly decent time for them.
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I guess but I never had that down as anything other than a win for you. I meant the games against Arsenal, City & Villa as they were the 3 I had you down as potentially dropping points.
posted on 2/12/24
comment by T-BAD (U11806)
posted 2 hours ago
comment by Peter O'Hanraha-hanrahan (U1217)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by T-BAD (U11806)
posted 14 minutes ago
I mean you can only beat whats in front of you and its not your fault your three toughest league games have come at awful times for the opposition, You've been given a decent start and you've absolutely made the most of it and given the manager an amazing platform to build on so fair play.
Too early to talk about the title but you must be favourites now and I'd rather you than City all in all, if it cant be Arsenal.
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The Chelsea game came at a fairly decent time for them.
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I guess but I never had that down as anything other than a win for you. I meant the games against Arsenal, City & Villa as they were the 3 I had you down as potentially dropping points.
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Ah well if you had that down as a win then it can't have been a tough game of course.
posted on 3/12/24
Would you have expected to lose that game then?
posted on 4/12/24
I didn't necessarily expect us to lose but it's certainly a game anyone can drop points in.
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