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posted 3 weeks, 3 days ago

comment by Keiran Keane (U1734)
posted 1 minute ago
Didn't you guys just get a massive, fancy, state of the art stadium. Arguably the best football stadium in the world?
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'just get'? That was over 5 years ago.

posted 3 weeks, 3 days ago

comment by Keiran Keane (U1734)
posted 10 minutes ago
Didn't you guys just get a massive, fancy, state of the art stadium. Arguably the best football stadium in the world?
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Yes.

posted 3 weeks, 3 days ago

comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Hod idol (U5117)
posted 1 minute ago
Fans need to start to look at the bigger picture and focus energy on the root problem embedded in the club over the last 24 years, averaging a change of manager every two seasons.

Instead of being split on sacking another manager, surely now is the perfect time to be in unison with forcing regime change.

It's going to take some disruption and pain but with an average squad, average position and poor manager, the climate is exactly right to go nuclear.

Levy needs to be shamed, embarrassed and forced into quitting and selling. Instead of talking about Ange's tactics we should be talking about off the pitch tactics to disrupt and shame.

The current team and sporting status is not important but the future of the club is.
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using last night as an example .... do you think the players Spurs had on the pitch were better on paper than the ones that Bournemouth had on were?

You can blame Levy for not bringing in players up to the level that the fans crave. But when the players on the pitch that Spurs put out are better on paper than the opposition then the fault lies at the manager IMO.
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Which is why I stated Ange is a poor manager. But there is a bigger picture which fans are completely aware of. However, you will here Levy out chants but the moment he changes something (usually the manager) the chants disappear.

Needs to be more sustained and different types of action.

The future should not have either Levy or Ange in it.

posted 3 weeks, 3 days ago

comment by Hod idol (U5117)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Keiran Keane (U1734)
posted 1 minute ago
Didn't you guys just get a massive, fancy, state of the art stadium. Arguably the best football stadium in the world?
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'just get'? That was over 5 years ago.
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This sums up a spoilt generation of PL fans. The money in the PL has warped your perspective.

posted 3 weeks, 3 days ago

comment by Automatic For The People (U21889)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Keiran Keane (U1734)
posted 10 minutes ago
Didn't you guys just get a massive, fancy, state of the art stadium. Arguably the best football stadium in the world?
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Yes.
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JUst need to fill it with players and staff that can match it.

Currently Spurs have a Casio watch but it came in a Rolex box.

comment by Spurtle (U1608)

posted 3 weeks, 3 days ago

comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Hod idol (U5117)
posted 1 minute ago
Fans need to start to look at the bigger picture and focus energy on the root problem embedded in the club over the last 24 years, averaging a change of manager every two seasons.

Instead of being split on sacking another manager, surely now is the perfect time to be in unison with forcing regime change.

It's going to take some disruption and pain but with an average squad, average position and poor manager, the climate is exactly right to go nuclear.

Levy needs to be shamed, embarrassed and forced into quitting and selling. Instead of talking about Ange's tactics we should be talking about off the pitch tactics to disrupt and shame.

The current team and sporting status is not important but the future of the club is.
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using last night as an example .... do you think the players Spurs had on the pitch were better on paper than the ones that Bournemouth had on were?

You can blame Levy for not bringing in players up to the level that the fans crave. But when the players on the pitch that Spurs put out are better on paper than the opposition then the fault lies at the manager IMO.
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It's partly a problem with the players but I agree, these players are better than those Ipswich, Palace, Bournemouth, Roma and Fulham have. Ange isn't getting enough out of them, and sure you can have periods where the team underperforms but this has been going on far too long now.

I agree with the assessment above about some of these teams working us out. It was all good when we first started under Ange. A fresh way of playing that the league wasn't ready for from us, that's why we did so well. Since then the PL for the most part has worked us out. Some of these lesser teams come knowing full well what we're going to do and they have a plan for us.

posted 3 weeks, 3 days ago

comment by Keiran Keane (U1734)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Hod idol (U5117)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Keiran Keane (U1734)
posted 1 minute ago
Didn't you guys just get a massive, fancy, state of the art stadium. Arguably the best football stadium in the world?
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'just get'? That was over 5 years ago.
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This sums up a spoilt generation of PL fans. The money in the PL has warped your perspective.
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My perspective is fans have been ripped off over the last 24 years. With or without a billion pound stadium this con would still be continuing under these owners.

posted 3 weeks, 3 days ago

Spurs are the 6th biggest club in England. Here is their finishing position in the PL the past 14 years

2023/24: 5th
2022/23: 8th
2021/22: 4th
2020/21: 7th
2019/20: 6th
2018/19: 4th
2017/18: 3rd
2016/17: 2nd
2015/16: 3rd
2014/15: 5th
2013/14: 6th
2012/13: 5th
2011/12: 4th
2010/11: 5th
2009/10: 4th

Only twice in 14 years have they not exceeded expectation in terms of league position. 10 times out of 14 they HAVE exceeded expectation, twice meeting expectations.

Spurs have been doing better than they should be.

Spurs aren't even in the top 20 biggest teams in Europe, yet they have the best stadium. They have seen some of the best players in world football play for their club over the past 14 years or so.

Should Hotspur fans be the MOST satisfied out of any club in world football with how they are run and how they are doing out of any club in football history?

posted 3 weeks, 3 days ago

comment by Keiran Keane (U1734)
posted 1 minute ago
Spurs are the 6th biggest club in England. Here is their finishing position in the PL the past 14 years

2023/24: 5th
2022/23: 8th
2021/22: 4th
2020/21: 7th
2019/20: 6th
2018/19: 4th
2017/18: 3rd
2016/17: 2nd
2015/16: 3rd
2014/15: 5th
2013/14: 6th
2012/13: 5th
2011/12: 4th
2010/11: 5th
2009/10: 4th

Only twice in 14 years have they not exceeded expectation in terms of league position. 10 times out of 14 they HAVE exceeded expectation, twice meeting expectations.

Spurs have been doing better than they should be.

Spurs aren't even in the top 20 biggest teams in Europe, yet they have the best stadium. They have seen some of the best players in world football play for their club over the past 14 years or so.

Should Hotspur fans be the MOST satisfied out of any club in world football with how they are run and how they are doing out of any club in football history?
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only three teams in world football have spent more on players over the last 5 years than Spurs have

posted 3 weeks, 3 days ago

Ange in. 3 more windows.

posted 3 weeks, 3 days ago

comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Keiran Keane (U1734)
posted 1 minute ago
Spurs are the 6th biggest club in England. Here is their finishing position in the PL the past 14 years

2023/24: 5th
2022/23: 8th
2021/22: 4th
2020/21: 7th
2019/20: 6th
2018/19: 4th
2017/18: 3rd
2016/17: 2nd
2015/16: 3rd
2014/15: 5th
2013/14: 6th
2012/13: 5th
2011/12: 4th
2010/11: 5th
2009/10: 4th

Only twice in 14 years have they not exceeded expectation in terms of league position. 10 times out of 14 they HAVE exceeded expectation, twice meeting expectations.

Spurs have been doing better than they should be.

Spurs aren't even in the top 20 biggest teams in Europe, yet they have the best stadium. They have seen some of the best players in world football play for their club over the past 14 years or so.

Should Hotspur fans be the MOST satisfied out of any club in world football with how they are run and how they are doing out of any club in football history?
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only three teams in world football have spent more on players over the last 5 years than Spurs have
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Lucky basssstards. Must have some proper loving and generous owners.

posted 3 weeks, 3 days ago

Tottenham Hotspur is considered one of the best-run football clubs in England. They were recently named the best-run club in the country by the Fair Game Index. This ranking is based on several key areas, including financial sustainability, good governance, equality standards, and fan engagement.

Tottenham’s strong governance and commitment to sustainability have been highlighted as major factors in their top ranking. Despite not having the same level of on-field success as some other top clubs, their off-field management is highly regarded.

posted 3 weeks, 3 days ago

comment by Keiran Keane (U1734)
posted 10 minutes ago
comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Keiran Keane (U1734)
posted 1 minute ago
Spurs are the 6th biggest club in England. Here is their finishing position in the PL the past 14 years

2023/24: 5th
2022/23: 8th
2021/22: 4th
2020/21: 7th
2019/20: 6th
2018/19: 4th
2017/18: 3rd
2016/17: 2nd
2015/16: 3rd
2014/15: 5th
2013/14: 6th
2012/13: 5th
2011/12: 4th
2010/11: 5th
2009/10: 4th

Only twice in 14 years have they not exceeded expectation in terms of league position. 10 times out of 14 they HAVE exceeded expectation, twice meeting expectations.

Spurs have been doing better than they should be.

Spurs aren't even in the top 20 biggest teams in Europe, yet they have the best stadium. They have seen some of the best players in world football play for their club over the past 14 years or so.

Should Hotspur fans be the MOST satisfied out of any club in world football with how they are run and how they are doing out of any club in football history?
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only three teams in world football have spent more on players over the last 5 years than Spurs have
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Lucky basssstards. Must have some proper loving and generous owners.
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No they hate us and I want them to die

posted 3 weeks, 3 days ago

Spurs league finishes pre Levy:

2000/01: 12th
1999/00: 10th
1998/99: 11th
1997/98: 14th
1996/97: 10th
1995/96: 8th
1994/95: 7th
1993/94: 15th
1992/93: 8th

average: 11th.

Spurs league position since Levy took over.

2023/24: 5th
2022/23: 8th
2021/22: 4th
2020/21: 7th
2019/20: 6th
2018/19: 4th
2017/18: 3rd
2016/17: 2nd
2015/16: 3rd
2014/15: 5th
2013/14: 6th
2012/13: 5th
2011/12: 4th
2010/11: 5th
2009/10: 4th
2008/09: 8th
2007/08: 11th
2006/07: 5th
2005/06: 5th
2004/05: 9th
2003/04: 14th
2002/03: 10th
2001/02: 9th

Average position 6th (8th in first 10 years, 4.7rd in last 10 years)

He has taken you from an 11th placed English club to a consistently 4.7rd club and with 4.7rd being inside the top 5, that means Spurs will likely consistently get top 4 going forward as 5th place gets top 4 most years now.

They are arguably the best owners of any organisation in the history of any sort of human activity.

comment by Movies (U23088)

posted 3 weeks, 3 days ago

comment by Keiran Keane (U1734)
posted 1 minute ago
Spurs league finishes pre Levy:

2000/01: 12th
1999/00: 10th
1998/99: 11th
1997/98: 14th
1996/97: 10th
1995/96: 8th
1994/95: 7th
1993/94: 15th
1992/93: 8th

average: 11th.

Spurs league position since Levy took over.

2023/24: 5th
2022/23: 8th
2021/22: 4th
2020/21: 7th
2019/20: 6th
2018/19: 4th
2017/18: 3rd
2016/17: 2nd
2015/16: 3rd
2014/15: 5th
2013/14: 6th
2012/13: 5th
2011/12: 4th
2010/11: 5th
2009/10: 4th
2008/09: 8th
2007/08: 11th
2006/07: 5th
2005/06: 5th
2004/05: 9th
2003/04: 14th
2002/03: 10th
2001/02: 9th

Average position 6th (8th in first 10 years, 4.7rd in last 10 years)

He has taken you from an 11th placed English club to a consistently 4.7rd club and with 4.7rd being inside the top 5, that means Spurs will likely consistently get top 4 going forward as 5th place gets top 4 most years now.

They are arguably the best owners of any organisation in the history of any sort of human activity.
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I swear to god I have written that exact same post previously!

comment by Movies (U23088)

posted 3 weeks, 3 days ago

Anyway, just wanted to say that I quite like what he said about taking the fan feedback on board. That was decent.

He also seems to be coughing and spluttering less which is positive.

comment by Spurtle (U1608)

posted 3 weeks, 3 days ago

comment by Movies (U23088)
posted 3 minutes ago
Anyway, just wanted to say that I quite like what he said about taking the fan feedback on board. That was decent.

He also seems to be coughing and spluttering less which is positive.
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Not good for us. The team was much better when he was coughing more. Someone needs to slip him a bit of covid so we can get our club back on track.

posted 3 weeks, 3 days ago

Spurs over the past 10 years have finished on average around the same position as Arsenal and Man Utd have. Two of the biggest clubs in world football.

On average, Spurs have finished higher than Chelsea over the past 10 years.

Spurs fans must be the most satisfied out of any fans in world football.

posted 3 weeks, 3 days ago

comment by The Welsh Xavi (U15412)
posted 7 hours, 25 minutes ago
Granted I don't tend to watch too many of your games but from an outsider looking in, I don't know why anyone would want to give more time to someone who's record is:

W26 D8 L18

You take out that initial 10 game spell and he's W18 D6 L18.
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Does that mean you would have sacked Klopp and Arteta?

After 50 games they both won the same amount.

posted 3 weeks, 3 days ago

comment by Luka Bosh Brasi (U22178)
posted 45 minutes ago
Ange in. 3 more windows.
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posted 3 weeks, 3 days ago

I am very much Ange in.

This is a rebuild so everyone just needs to strap themselves in.

As long as we don't get relegated I feel like it is a free hit this season. Add a couple of players in January to steady the ship a little and hopefully we can have a really big summer and get some real quality in positions where Ange needs.

I love our football style, we just need consistency and we will only get that by the players learning how to adapt to Ange's style and recruitment so that we have a squad that can play at a high level week in week out and for that you need a good few windows. It was never going to happen in one window, this is not fantasy football.

Like Ange says we have also invested in a number of youngers that will hopefully bear fruit in the not too distant future.

Results and performances have been frustrating at times and we are going through a bad patch at the moment with a number of players out, playing Chelsea I fear it will only get worse at the weekend.

I just hope for once Levy holds his nerve and doesn't pull the trigger. We need to see this through.

posted 3 weeks, 3 days ago

comment by burghandy (U10383)
posted 5 minutes ago
I am very much Ange in.

This is a rebuild so everyone just needs to strap themselves in.

As long as we don't get relegated I feel like it is a free hit this season. Add a couple of players in January to steady the ship a little and hopefully we can have a really big summer and get some real quality in positions where Ange needs.

I love our football style, we just need consistency and we will only get that by the players learning how to adapt to Ange's style and recruitment so that we have a squad that can play at a high level week in week out and for that you need a good few windows. It was never going to happen in one window, this is not fantasy football.

Like Ange says we have also invested in a number of youngers that will hopefully bear fruit in the not too distant future.

Results and performances have been frustrating at times and we are going through a bad patch at the moment with a number of players out, playing Chelsea I fear it will only get worse at the weekend.

I just hope for once Levy holds his nerve and doesn't pull the trigger. We need to see this through.

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good to see that cough is defo clearing up ,,, not a peep during that whole speech there

comment by Phenom (U20037)

posted 3 weeks, 3 days ago

obviously hypothetical and worry about that if it comes to it, but would you get a new guy in if we finish 10th with no trophy come end of the season, burghandy?


think thats where im at, need to see if he can pick up this season and end it with something positive to come out of it before pulling the trigger. would need to be out of the all the cups and getting totally battered every other week for me to really think he should go before end of the season

comment by Phenom (U20037)

posted 3 weeks, 3 days ago

the difference with Klopp and Arteta though was the key signings to improve the first team were made and steady progress, if not small early on, was there. it's difficult to see that so far and gamble on the club being able to do that again in the summer

posted 3 weeks, 3 days ago

comment by Phenom (U20037)
posted 1 minute ago
the difference with Klopp and Arteta though was the key signings to improve the first team were made and steady progress, if not small early on, was there. it's difficult to see that so far and gamble on the club being able to do that again in the summer
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Do Spurs fans think that they are better this under Ange or better last season? Is the club progressing, thats him been there 1.5 years now. What direction do you think the club is going under his charge?

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