I liked the lad, and hope he does well.

But I wasnt that sad he left.

Thought we got strong strong money for him

I wasn't happy he went, but at least we got a good one in return!..

You have to take into account that Rodon has stepped down a league and Gray stepped up one.

I mean Gray is playing European competition tonight, you have to recognise there are levels.

Rodon was a good defender, just not elite and lacked pace.

Gray is very tidy on the ball, superb feet and incredible composure for an 18 year old. I don’t think he will be a superstar but I would be comfortable in saying he will be a premier league stalwart for years to come. He gives off serious Gareth Barry, Jordan Henderson type vibes - just a reliable steady Eddie who can play multiple positions fairly well. He is putting some of his senior colleagues to shame.

don’t think he will be a superstar but I would be comfortable in saying he will be a premier league stalwart for years to come. He gives off serious Gareth Barry, Jordan Henderson type vibes - just a reliable steady Eddie who can play multiple positions fairly well.
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Thinks thats a good shout, and if does, will have had a great career.

I would say he was just steady for us at full back, £40m was a great deal

I mean Gray is playing European competition tonight, you have to recognise there are levels.
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He's playing against a team who would be a bang average championship team if they were in England.

And even that is being generous

You know, there's a player who reminds me of Gray.... someone who always seems to never be in a rush.... tidy control... doesn't get fazed.... doesn't lose the ball often at all... can see what the opposition are going to do before they know themselves....got a bit of vision... got the potential for massive growth as a player...


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Tanaka

He's far to young to say he won't be a super star, usually super stars start of the way he has, so, no reason why he shouldn't/couldn't make the mark!..

He gets the right coaching than he's more chance than most!..

Our lot said Geldhart was a future superstar, another Rooney they said. Gray as someone said, Jordan Henderson, Gareth Barry level is a good shout. We got a good deal for him. Bogle is better at RB and Tanaka is the better centre mid currently, so we've not missed him

Grays decision making is spot on, it’s his biggest asset football intelligence. Players with that at an early age tend to do just fine. Seeing what the lads like - hard working, respectful, willing to learn - there are no worries about his career in the game, he isn’t going to burn out early.

Playing at red hot Ibrox last night, regardless of Rangers current form, he performed competently

Morning all🌞.

Whilst it’s sad to see a homegrown talent sold, especially one of the Gray dynasty, Rodon + £30m was a good deal for us. Anyway, good luck to the lad.

comment by Mattyp (U8926)
posted 9 hours, 21 minutes ago

He's playing against a team who would be a bang average championship team if they were in England.
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They would have at least twice the money if they played in the championship, in fact they would be the biggest team in the championship.

They wrote: “Archie Gray – First start as a centre-back for the 18-year-old and on the whole he was solid, winning headers and decent with the ball at his feet. Was one of those who got turned inside out by Dessers late on, but on the whole he did well for someone out of position and so young. 6.”

comment by Striketeam7 - staying humble (U18109)
posted 59 minutes ago
Grays decision making is spot on, it’s his biggest asset football intelligence. Players with that at an early age tend to do just fine. Seeing what the lads like - hard working, respectful, willing to learn - there are no worries about his career in the game, he isn’t going to burn out early.

Playing at red hot Ibrox last night, regardless of Rangers current form, he performed competently
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I think you provide a fair assessment of Archie. He'll be a good solid prem league player although whether at CB or midfield as he matures i really couldn't call.

His sale, while disappointing on some levels, enabled the greater squad/team rebuild so maybe inevitable.

comment by Silver (U6112)
posted 48 minutes ago
comment by Mattyp (U8926)
posted 9 hours, 21 minutes ago

He's playing against a team who would be a bang average championship team if they were in England.
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They would have at least twice the money if they played in the championship, in fact they would be the biggest team in the championship.
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I take your point - agree as well about if Rangers and/or Celtic were in the champs. Actually, to go a bit further if they were in the prem, they'd be bigger than many, including Spurs, if allowed in the comp - they'd be massive and that's why they'll never be invited.

However I believe Matty is referring to the level of player in the Rangers team now, as in who Archie had up against him. Scots Prem is likely worse than the Champ in terms of squads, I'd imagine that's a fair statement.

whilst its a shame to see a home grown talented player like Gray leave us, and a 'Gray' to leave us at that, I think it was the best deal all round for us.

comment by Striketeam7 - staying humble (U18109)
posted 13 hours, 24 minutes ago
You have to take into account that Rodon has stepped down a league and Gray stepped up one.

I mean Gray is playing European competition tonight, you have to recognise there are levels.

Rodon was a good defender, just not elite and lacked pace.

Gray is very tidy on the ball, superb feet and incredible composure for an 18 year old. I don’t think he will be a superstar but I would be comfortable in saying he will be a premier league stalwart for years to come. He gives off serious Gareth Barry, Jordan Henderson type vibes - just a reliable steady Eddie who can play multiple positions fairly well. He is putting some of his senior colleagues to shame.
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Agreed. I love the guy but Spurs paid a hell of a lot for him.

To be fair though, he’s not in the elite euro competition and Rangers would just about make top six in the Championship I think.

I hope he does well and my remark about Rodon was a little tongue in cheek.

comment by VOF - Farke me I like wins ...... (U17124)
posted 2 hours, 21 minutes ago
comment by Silver (U6112)
posted 48 minutes ago
comment by Mattyp (U8926)
posted 9 hours, 21 minutes ago

He's playing against a team who would be a bang average championship team if they were in England.
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They would have at least twice the money if they played in the championship, in fact they would be the biggest team in the championship.
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I take your point - agree as well about if Rangers and/or Celtic were in the champs. Actually, to go a bit further if they were in the prem, they'd be bigger than many, including Spurs, if allowed in the comp - they'd be massive and that's why they'll never be invited.

However I believe Matty is referring to the level of player in the Rangers team now, as in who Archie had up against him. Scots Prem is likely worse than the Champ in terms of squads, I'd imagine that's a fair statement.
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Maybe? Sure SPFL lacks depth but that means the pressure on those at the top to win week after week is immense and not for everyone. Rangers being above Spurs, Sociedad, Roma, Ajax and more in the table suggests a reasonable level.

comment by Silver (U6112)
posted 3 hours, 45 minutes ago
comment by Mattyp (U8926)
posted 9 hours, 21 minutes ago

He's playing against a team who would be a bang average championship team if they were in England.
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They would have at least twice the money if they played in the championship, in fact they would be the biggest team in the championship.
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Leeds had a bigger turnover than Rangers last season.

And double, the year before 🤷🏻‍♂️

comment by LIW 100 Points, champions, Lose two games only (U8453)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Silver (U6112)
posted 3 hours, 45 minutes ago
comment by Mattyp (U8926)
posted 9 hours, 21 minutes ago

He's playing against a team who would be a bang average championship team if they were in England.
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They would have at least twice the money if they played in the championship, in fact they would be the biggest team in the championship.
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Leeds had a bigger turnover than Rangers last season.

And double, the year before 🤷🏻‍♂️
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I do think, always have, that the 2 big sides in Scotland would generate enormous turnover with TV money, advertising etc ... if they got accepted in the prem (or english leagues). they've both got global fanbases and would attract a lot of interest.

For me it's the reason why the "big" sides would never want them anywhere near, they'd be (over time) a threat to the CL positions and trophies/revenues.

comment by VOF - Farke me I like wins ...... (U17124)
posted 21 minutes ago
comment by LIW 100 Points, champions, Lose two games only (U8453)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Silver (U6112)
posted 3 hours, 45 minutes ago
comment by Mattyp (U8926)
posted 9 hours, 21 minutes ago

He's playing against a team who would be a bang average championship team if they were in England.
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They would have at least twice the money if they played in the championship, in fact they would be the biggest team in the championship.
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Leeds had a bigger turnover than Rangers last season.

And double, the year before 🤷🏻‍♂️
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I do think, always have, that the 2 big sides in Scotland would generate enormous turnover with TV money, advertising etc ... if they got accepted in the prem (or english leagues). they've both got global fanbases and would attract a lot of interest.

For me it's the reason why the "big" sides would never want them anywhere near, they'd be (over time) a threat to the CL positions and trophies/revenues.
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Would have agreed 10/15 years ago.

But thats gone now, the world has been exposed to the prem league for too long now, Top english clubs global fanbases, dwarf both celtic and rangers by many multiples now

comment by LIW 100 Points, champions, Lose two games only (U8453)
posted 1 hour, 12 minutes ago
comment by VOF - Farke me I like wins ...... (U17124)
posted 21 minutes ago
comment by LIW 100 Points, champions, Lose two games only (U8453)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Silver (U6112)
posted 3 hours, 45 minutes ago
comment by Mattyp (U8926)
posted 9 hours, 21 minutes ago

He's playing against a team who would be a bang average championship team if they were in England.
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They would have at least twice the money if they played in the championship, in fact they would be the biggest team in the championship.
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Leeds had a bigger turnover than Rangers last season.

And double, the year before 🤷🏻‍♂️
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I do think, always have, that the 2 big sides in Scotland would generate enormous turnover with TV money, advertising etc ... if they got accepted in the prem (or english leagues). they've both got global fanbases and would attract a lot of interest.

For me it's the reason why the "big" sides would never want them anywhere near, they'd be (over time) a threat to the CL positions and trophies/revenues.
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Would have agreed 10/15 years ago.

But thats gone now, the world has been exposed to the prem league for too long now, Top english clubs global fanbases, dwarf both celtic and rangers by many multiples now
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Listen to VOF cos you have no idea how this works. Or DYOR because I aint seen anyone say anything other than agree with VOF's assessment.

Withoit

comment by Silver (U6112)
posted 9 minutes ago
comment by LIW 100 Points, champions, Lose two games only (U8453)
posted 1 hour, 12 minutes ago
comment by VOF - Farke me I like wins ...... (U17124)
posted 21 minutes ago
comment by LIW 100 Points, champions, Lose two games only (U8453)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Silver (U6112)
posted 3 hours, 45 minutes ago
comment by Mattyp (U8926)
posted 9 hours, 21 minutes ago

He's playing against a team who would be a bang average championship team if they were in England.
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They would have at least twice the money if they played in the championship, in fact they would be the biggest team in the championship.
----------------------------------------------------------------------

Leeds had a bigger turnover than Rangers last season.

And double, the year before 🤷🏻‍♂️
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I do think, always have, that the 2 big sides in Scotland would generate enormous turnover with TV money, advertising etc ... if they got accepted in the prem (or english leagues). they've both got global fanbases and would attract a lot of interest.

For me it's the reason why the "big" sides would never want them anywhere near, they'd be (over time) a threat to the CL positions and trophies/revenues.
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Would have agreed 10/15 years ago.

But thats gone now, the world has been exposed to the prem league for too long now, Top english clubs global fanbases, dwarf both celtic and rangers by many multiples now
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Listen to VOF cos you have no idea how this works. Or DYOR because I aint seen anyone say anything other than agree with VOF's assessment.
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https://swissramble.substack.com/p/rangers-finances-202324


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Take off TV money £65m turnover

https://swissramble.substack.com/p/leeds-united-finances-202223


Leeds is £78 without tv money.

Am even letting you leave in 10 european games Gate reciepts in your turnover.

So where is this double the turnover than every other club in The champ research come from 🤷🏻‍♂️

https://www.followfollow.com/rangers-fcs-global-impact-a-worldwide-blue-army/


Your biggest forum,

9 million fans

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tottenham_Hotspur_F.C._supporters

180m

So lets be having your research, not what you like to think.

Celtic and Rangers, now bring absolutely nothing to the prem, no extra income, no extra exposure, feck all, apart from alot of violence and sectarian abuse.

Now stick too your sh@tty little 2 team league, which apart from a few ex irish and scots watch around the world, nobody watching.

… but apart from all that, you’d love to have them in the English leagues yeh wakey ?

Personally I think a bit of tartan exuberance would add some colour to the grey monotony of the premiership season. I’d happily swap rangers and Celtic in for Brighton, or Bournemouth or Man United… any such tinpot no hopers really