posted 2 weeks, 5 days ago
comment by Grinch (U23226)
posted 44 minutes ago
comment by sandy, golden boot winner fa cup 1901 (U20567)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Calafiori knows how to Partey (U21076)
posted 35 minutes ago
For me one of the issues is that Dragusin is a completely different style of defender to what Spurs need. It's clear you're missing VDV because his pace covered the flaws in the high risk defensive strategy. Dragusin seems a weird signing tbh
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I think he is doing his best. But he is being asked to play with a back up goalie, reserve defenders, and an out of form regular in Porro. Cannot really blame him to much. In fact cannot blame any of the defence. They have been cobbled together with an unprecedented amount of injuries to the defence.
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But you were happy to blame him earlier in the season and even wrote articles wanting him sacked . You’re a pathetic sad little oddball
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Correct Grinch - he can’t keep his story straight ever
posted 2 weeks, 5 days ago
Injuries or no injuries I am seeing no improvement this season, we are still the same inconsistent chaos.
We just keep doing the same thing over and over again, regardless of personnel or fatigue.
Sure we have had some fantastic results, but we have had more poor results, losing to teams we should be cruising past.
It remains to be seen if Levy gives Ange the players required to implement his style.
posted 2 weeks, 5 days ago
comment by ●Billy The Spur● LEVY OUT- ENIC OUT! (U3924)
posted 5 minutes ago
Injuries or no injuries I am seeing no improvement this season, we are still the same inconsistent chaos.
We just keep doing the same thing over and over again, regardless of personnel or fatigue.
Sure we have had some fantastic results, but we have had more poor results, losing to teams we should be cruising past.
It remains to be seen if Levy gives Ange the players required to implement his style.
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Just look at the sides above us in the table. How anyone does t fancy a bit of Iraola is beyond me - the man is clearly a top manager, Prem experience and young enough to build something here.
We should be moving heaven and earth before he is snapped up by another club
posted 2 weeks, 5 days ago
comment by sandy, golden boot winner fa cup 1901 (U20567)
posted 4 hours, 24 minutes ago
comment by The Welsh Xavi (U15412)
posted 41 minutes ago
On the injury excuse, surely part of the reason you have so many injuries in the first place is due to his play style?
Romero, VDV and Davies all have hamstring injuries don't they? Surely not a coincidence when you're asking your CBs to sprint all the time
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There is something in that. But what do do suggest our CBs just stand like statues when the oppositing forwards are running at them? It`s unfortunate, but you cannot just expect players to not put in sprints, it`s a major part of the modern game.
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pressing intelligence too, no team can do it as often as spurs try to. Has to be done more cohesively and organised. One or two going off on their own like they were vs Liverpool leaving your mf and def exposed is pointless and football suicide.
posted 2 weeks, 5 days ago
comment by sandy, golden boot winner fa cup 1901 (U20567)
posted 6 hours, 5 minutes ago
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 1 hour, 33 minutes ago
Liverpool were a class apart and there is no denying that.
But anyone who thinks that some key injuries and an inability to rest and rotate in a period in the season when we are 2 games a week, every week, for weeks on end, is.gping further than hoodwinking themselves, it's just plain stupidity.
Liverpool has an easy midweek tie and we're able to rest key players and you could see it in today's game. Their energy was at another level and we barely laid a glove on them in terms of our press. When we did we had some joy and forced opportunities.
I am notnsaying that all is great at Spurs, Slot had a better game plan to Ange but also they executed it better. Both teams went long at times and ours was aimless and theirs far more polished. For them it's a legacy of Klopp, for us it's an option we need to work on far more. When they hit it long, they had runners. For us it seemed almost unplanned, more reactionary.
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The stupidity of some of our fans is on another level. For practically the whole of December Spurs have more or less had to put the same team on the pitch for every single game, in what is the busiest time of the year. Liverpool rested nearly all their first XI midweek, Spurs had to play them all, hence unchanged against yesterday, because they are down to the barebones.
But hey some of our supporters think injuries do not play a part in performances.
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The irony if sandy mentioning stupidity. U cry whenever somewhere insults you, you little snowflake.
You are both ignoring the point one again, well done. Seems to be common with the ange supporters.
No1 is saying the injuries dont make a difference. The point I’m making is ange is focusing on the injuries as if that is the only reason why we are where we are. And discounting his poor tactics across the whole season that has seen us open at the back.
Clearly though, you guys are hoodwinked and believe when the players are back everything will be fine. Cheers
posted 2 weeks, 5 days ago
ange is focusing on the injuries as if that is the only reason why we are where we are. And discounting his poor tactics across the whole season that has seen us open at the back
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Got any quotes to back this up?
posted 2 weeks, 5 days ago
comment by Bãleș left boot (U22081)
posted 32 minutes ago
ange is focusing on the injuries as if that is the only reason why we are where we are. And discounting his poor tactics across the whole season that has seen us open at the back
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Got any quotes to back this up?
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Another one with no critical thinking skills. Can you infer anything from his interviews or do u take at face value?
I assume no, because if you understood properly what i just said, i did not say he SAID injuries are the only reason.
posted 2 weeks, 5 days ago
So that's a no then?
posted 2 weeks, 5 days ago
Why are u asking about quotes when i didnt say he said it?
posted 2 weeks, 5 days ago
So you're suggesting you know what he thinks?
posted 2 weeks, 5 days ago
comment by Bãleș left boot (U22081)
posted 1 hour, 45 minutes ago
So you're suggesting you know what he thinks?
----------------------------------------------------------------------Having a mare mate 😂. Just take the L, don’t let your pride get in the way. You thought I said something that I hadn't, started talking nonsense about quotes, now you are talking more rubbish when no1 mentioned anything about what he thinks
posted 2 weeks, 5 days ago
I'm all over the place? Where have I said you've said anything you didn't? Who's winning here?
All I'm trying to do is understand how you've to the conclusion that Ange is hoodwinking us. You apparently can't point to what he's said, you're not convinced that he even thinks what you're suggesting he's not saying.. you're not giving me much to go on here.
I'll be honest, it seems like you've been hoodwinked by the negative press going on rather than what he's actually saying and doing
posted 2 weeks, 5 days ago
Oh I see where the confusion might've happened. I wasn't asking for direct quotes of what you said he's saying. I'm not a moron. I was expecting you to post some quote that you've used to take the inference from. Cos I've seen him saying about the squad being weak, I've seen him saying he's not going to change the approach.
But I think you're going to struggle finding anything that supports the notion that he thinks injuries are the ONLY reason we are where we are. But if you can I'm curious to see it
posted 2 weeks, 5 days ago
Felt like writing a bit more than a snarky one liner this time yeah?
“But I think you're going to struggle finding anything that supports the notion that he thinks injuries are the ONLY reason we are where we are. But if you can I'm curious to see it”
Again, where did i say that he thinks its the only reason. Let me spell it out for you since you’re struggling: he is putting the focus on the injures, which yes have an impact, to distract away from the multitude of other reasons that he is responsible for. Hence hoodwinking ☺️
posted 2 weeks, 5 days ago
It wasn't snarky at all. That's on you fella. Also I left a long thoughtful response to your thread in a previous comment that you ignored cos it doesn't agree with you.
Also c'mon man you literally wrote this:
ange is focusing on the injuries as if that is the only reason
posted 2 weeks, 5 days ago
Feels like you're trying to hoodwink me at this point tbh. Either that or you've already cracked the Christmas whiskey
posted 2 weeks, 5 days ago
All this would've been cleared up already if you just shared the quotes from Ange that's made you come to this conclusion that he's hoodwinking so we could have an honest conversation about it. That's all I wanted
posted 2 weeks, 5 days ago
comment by Bãleș left boot (U22081)
posted 35 minutes ago
It wasn't snarky at all. That's on you fella. Also I left a long thoughtful response to your thread in a previous comment that you ignored cos it doesn't agree with you.
Also c'mon man you literally wrote this:
ange is focusing on the injuries as if that is the only reason
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So is that what this is about, because i didn’t reply to your previous comment? Apologies, I’ll do it now. But do respond properly.
& yes, i stand by that. He’s acting like it is the only reason because he doesn’t entertain any other reason. I’m being so consistent here, not sure what you aren’t getting!
Re quotes, in numerous interviews he has focused on the injuries and dismissed everything else eg playing out from the back, set pieces, being more pragmatic, plan B, the fact our form is dog for over 12 months etc etc. these are all things that he is using injuries to distract from…IN MY OPINION
posted 2 weeks, 5 days ago
No that's not what it's about. Jeez man. I was responding to you suggesting I'm only making snarky one liner comments. For starters, I put thought into an actual response. For second I just asked a straightforward question that obviously upset you.
Onto the point. I appreciate that's your opinion, but Ange being asked about injuries and conceding that they might be having an impact on our performances does not equal him excusing everything you've mentioned there. IMO that's mental you'd think that someone so successful, getting paid millions, would actually think like that. And it's not even borne out in what he's said. You're just being a caant. IMO.
posted 2 weeks, 5 days ago
It's a bit like Liverpool getting lucky but also being good, both can be true but some people seem to think it's one or the other and there's no way both can be true.
posted 2 weeks, 5 days ago
comment by Bãleș left boot (U22081)
posted 14 hours, 16 minutes ago
It's a bit of both tbf. I don't think there's a manager alive that gets us a win in that game with Dragusin and Gray as our centre backs with Forster in goal. That said, there's definitely an argument there's a few managers out there that would have us on a higher points total right now. Even just a couple of losses turned into wins and we're 5th place.
Given the state of the squad, both in terms of the injuries right now but the overall level even with everyone fit, I don't think it's fair to say Ange is awful and all the other sh!t being thrown at him. It's fine margins init. We've seen Mourinho and Conte with substandard squads (Dier and Sanchez CBs, Hojbjerg and Winks midfield) suffer similar or worse results trying not to lose. At the end of the day there's only so much a manager can do.
Sure everyone can have their opinion about how they want us to play, who the manager should pick, or whatever. But if we're really honest even a prime Alex Ferguson ain't dragging this lot to the top. So is it bad enough, really, that it's worth tearing it all up again and facing another season or two waiting for a project to develop that might never work only to lose patience with it after a season and a bit and start again?
And I think right now it's very hard to answer because the squad is thin, lacking real quality in key areas, and where we do have real quality they're injured.. so yeah you can make a case for sacking him anyway but you could certainly say he's been a bit hard done by. Even if you hate the bloke.
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Forgot to reply!
I agree that Ange hasn’t been backed sufficiently and that is hampering. No doubts about that. I also think that other managers would be doing better than 11th place. Ideally ange turns it around, because yes a new manager is something most of us don’t want to go through AGAIN.
But my main issue with ange is him being too stubborn. Because to me it just shows that long term success is extremely unlikely with a manager who not only cannot adapt (or chooses not to), but will not be backed sufficiently to the point where his style will work.
This ain’t Celtic where you got the most money and best players in the league. The guy must be smoking crack, to think he can just keep playing the same way and it will lead to success for us. It won’t happen in my opinion and the last 12-13 months has shown us this. Thats a big sample size
posted 2 weeks, 5 days ago
comment by Bãleș left boot (U22081)
posted 39 minutes ago
No that's not what it's about. Jeez man. I was responding to you suggesting I'm only making snarky one liner comments. For starters, I put thought into an actual response. For second I just asked a straightforward question that obviously upset you.
Onto the point. I appreciate that's your opinion, but Ange being asked about injuries and conceding that they might be having an impact on our performances does not equal him excusing everything you've mentioned there. IMO that's mental you'd think that someone so successful, getting paid millions, would actually think like that. And it's not even borne out in what he's said. You're just being a caant. IMO.
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Wtf are you on about. You really are still struggling to understand even after all these messages. Fack me you’re slow.
I. Did. Not. Say. Ange. Thinks. Injuries. Are. The. Only. Reason.
I said he is using injuries to hoodwink fans and simpletons and it’s clearly working on the likes of you.
posted 2 weeks, 5 days ago
comment by Striketeam7 - staying humble (U18109)
posted 20 hours, 30 minutes ago
comment by Chronic (U3423)
posted 10 minutes ago
it does seem absurd that a top level, former international manager has absolutely no interest in any kind of balance or game state adjustment.
the philosophy is fast attacking football sure, but within that you then have adaptations for game state. e.g. no need to have both full backs and the entire midfield flooding forward every single time regardless of quality of possession we have
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He ain’t top level
Never was. Think of it this way, if Spurs sacked him tomorrow, where do you reckon his next job would be? No chance of an another Prem job, no chance of La Liga or Serie A. I would bet against the Budesliga. Maybe the Eredivisie with a second rate side but not PSV, Ajax or Feyenoord
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He’s operating at the top level now, which is what I was getting at
posted 2 weeks, 5 days ago
comment by BISS Bash BOSSED (U8366)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by Bãleș left boot (U22081)
posted 39 minutes ago
No that's not what it's about. Jeez man. I was responding to you suggesting I'm only making snarky one liner comments. For starters, I put thought into an actual response. For second I just asked a straightforward question that obviously upset you.
Onto the point. I appreciate that's your opinion, but Ange being asked about injuries and conceding that they might be having an impact on our performances does not equal him excusing everything you've mentioned there. IMO that's mental you'd think that someone so successful, getting paid millions, would actually think like that. And it's not even borne out in what he's said. You're just being a caant. IMO.
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Wtf are you on about. You really are still struggling to understand even after all these messages. Fack me you’re slow.
I. Did. Not. Say. Ange. Thinks. Injuries. Are. The. Only. Reason.
I said he is using injuries to hoodwink fans and simpletons and it’s clearly working on the likes of you.
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You literally said that
posted 2 weeks, 5 days ago
comment by BISS Bash BOSSED (U8366)
posted 6 hours, 17 minutes ago
comment by sandy, golden boot winner fa cup 1901 (U20567)
posted 6 hours, 5 minutes ago
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 1 hour, 33 minutes ago
Liverpool were a class apart and there is no denying that.
But anyone who thinks that some key injuries and an inability to rest and rotate in a period in the season when we are 2 games a week, every week, for weeks on end, is.gping further than hoodwinking themselves, it's just plain stupidity.
Liverpool has an easy midweek tie and we're able to rest key players and you could see it in today's game. Their energy was at another level and we barely laid a glove on them in terms of our press. When we did we had some joy and forced opportunities.
I am notnsaying that all is great at Spurs, Slot had a better game plan to Ange but also they executed it better. Both teams went long at times and ours was aimless and theirs far more polished. For them it's a legacy of Klopp, for us it's an option we need to work on far more. When they hit it long, they had runners. For us it seemed almost unplanned, more reactionary.
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The stupidity of some of our fans is on another level. For practically the whole of December Spurs have more or less had to put the same team on the pitch for every single game, in what is the busiest time of the year. Liverpool rested nearly all their first XI midweek, Spurs had to play them all, hence unchanged against yesterday, because they are down to the barebones.
But hey some of our supporters think injuries do not play a part in performances.
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The irony if sandy mentioning stupidity. U cry whenever somewhere insults you, you little snowflake.
You are both ignoring the point one again, well done. Seems to be common with the ange supporters.
No1 is saying the injuries dont make a difference. The point I’m making is ange is focusing on the injuries as if that is the only reason why we are where we are. And discounting his poor tactics across the whole season that has seen us open at the back.
Clearly though, you guys are hoodwinked and believe when the players are back everything will be fine. Cheers
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posted 2 weeks, 5 days ago
comment by Grinch (U23226)
posted 44 minutes ago
comment by sandy, golden boot winner fa cup 1901 (U20567)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Calafiori knows how to Partey (U21076)
posted 35 minutes ago
For me one of the issues is that Dragusin is a completely different style of defender to what Spurs need. It's clear you're missing VDV because his pace covered the flaws in the high risk defensive strategy. Dragusin seems a weird signing tbh
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I think he is doing his best. But he is being asked to play with a back up goalie, reserve defenders, and an out of form regular in Porro. Cannot really blame him to much. In fact cannot blame any of the defence. They have been cobbled together with an unprecedented amount of injuries to the defence.
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But you were happy to blame him earlier in the season and even wrote articles wanting him sacked . You’re a pathetic sad little oddball
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Correct Grinch - he can’t keep his story straight ever
posted 2 weeks, 5 days ago
Injuries or no injuries I am seeing no improvement this season, we are still the same inconsistent chaos.
We just keep doing the same thing over and over again, regardless of personnel or fatigue.
Sure we have had some fantastic results, but we have had more poor results, losing to teams we should be cruising past.
It remains to be seen if Levy gives Ange the players required to implement his style.
posted 2 weeks, 5 days ago
comment by ●Billy The Spur● LEVY OUT- ENIC OUT! (U3924)
posted 5 minutes ago
Injuries or no injuries I am seeing no improvement this season, we are still the same inconsistent chaos.
We just keep doing the same thing over and over again, regardless of personnel or fatigue.
Sure we have had some fantastic results, but we have had more poor results, losing to teams we should be cruising past.
It remains to be seen if Levy gives Ange the players required to implement his style.
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Just look at the sides above us in the table. How anyone does t fancy a bit of Iraola is beyond me - the man is clearly a top manager, Prem experience and young enough to build something here.
We should be moving heaven and earth before he is snapped up by another club
posted 2 weeks, 5 days ago
comment by sandy, golden boot winner fa cup 1901 (U20567)
posted 4 hours, 24 minutes ago
comment by The Welsh Xavi (U15412)
posted 41 minutes ago
On the injury excuse, surely part of the reason you have so many injuries in the first place is due to his play style?
Romero, VDV and Davies all have hamstring injuries don't they? Surely not a coincidence when you're asking your CBs to sprint all the time
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There is something in that. But what do do suggest our CBs just stand like statues when the oppositing forwards are running at them? It`s unfortunate, but you cannot just expect players to not put in sprints, it`s a major part of the modern game.
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pressing intelligence too, no team can do it as often as spurs try to. Has to be done more cohesively and organised. One or two going off on their own like they were vs Liverpool leaving your mf and def exposed is pointless and football suicide.
posted 2 weeks, 5 days ago
comment by sandy, golden boot winner fa cup 1901 (U20567)
posted 6 hours, 5 minutes ago
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 1 hour, 33 minutes ago
Liverpool were a class apart and there is no denying that.
But anyone who thinks that some key injuries and an inability to rest and rotate in a period in the season when we are 2 games a week, every week, for weeks on end, is.gping further than hoodwinking themselves, it's just plain stupidity.
Liverpool has an easy midweek tie and we're able to rest key players and you could see it in today's game. Their energy was at another level and we barely laid a glove on them in terms of our press. When we did we had some joy and forced opportunities.
I am notnsaying that all is great at Spurs, Slot had a better game plan to Ange but also they executed it better. Both teams went long at times and ours was aimless and theirs far more polished. For them it's a legacy of Klopp, for us it's an option we need to work on far more. When they hit it long, they had runners. For us it seemed almost unplanned, more reactionary.
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The stupidity of some of our fans is on another level. For practically the whole of December Spurs have more or less had to put the same team on the pitch for every single game, in what is the busiest time of the year. Liverpool rested nearly all their first XI midweek, Spurs had to play them all, hence unchanged against yesterday, because they are down to the barebones.
But hey some of our supporters think injuries do not play a part in performances.
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The irony if sandy mentioning stupidity. U cry whenever somewhere insults you, you little snowflake.
You are both ignoring the point one again, well done. Seems to be common with the ange supporters.
No1 is saying the injuries dont make a difference. The point I’m making is ange is focusing on the injuries as if that is the only reason why we are where we are. And discounting his poor tactics across the whole season that has seen us open at the back.
Clearly though, you guys are hoodwinked and believe when the players are back everything will be fine. Cheers
posted 2 weeks, 5 days ago
ange is focusing on the injuries as if that is the only reason why we are where we are. And discounting his poor tactics across the whole season that has seen us open at the back
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Got any quotes to back this up?
posted 2 weeks, 5 days ago
comment by Bãleș left boot (U22081)
posted 32 minutes ago
ange is focusing on the injuries as if that is the only reason why we are where we are. And discounting his poor tactics across the whole season that has seen us open at the back
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Got any quotes to back this up?
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Another one with no critical thinking skills. Can you infer anything from his interviews or do u take at face value?
I assume no, because if you understood properly what i just said, i did not say he SAID injuries are the only reason.
posted 2 weeks, 5 days ago
So that's a no then?
posted 2 weeks, 5 days ago
Why are u asking about quotes when i didnt say he said it?
posted 2 weeks, 5 days ago
So you're suggesting you know what he thinks?
posted 2 weeks, 5 days ago
comment by Bãleș left boot (U22081)
posted 1 hour, 45 minutes ago
So you're suggesting you know what he thinks?
----------------------------------------------------------------------Having a mare mate 😂. Just take the L, don’t let your pride get in the way. You thought I said something that I hadn't, started talking nonsense about quotes, now you are talking more rubbish when no1 mentioned anything about what he thinks
posted 2 weeks, 5 days ago
I'm all over the place? Where have I said you've said anything you didn't? Who's winning here?
All I'm trying to do is understand how you've to the conclusion that Ange is hoodwinking us. You apparently can't point to what he's said, you're not convinced that he even thinks what you're suggesting he's not saying.. you're not giving me much to go on here.
I'll be honest, it seems like you've been hoodwinked by the negative press going on rather than what he's actually saying and doing
posted 2 weeks, 5 days ago
Oh I see where the confusion might've happened. I wasn't asking for direct quotes of what you said he's saying. I'm not a moron. I was expecting you to post some quote that you've used to take the inference from. Cos I've seen him saying about the squad being weak, I've seen him saying he's not going to change the approach.
But I think you're going to struggle finding anything that supports the notion that he thinks injuries are the ONLY reason we are where we are. But if you can I'm curious to see it
posted 2 weeks, 5 days ago
Felt like writing a bit more than a snarky one liner this time yeah?
“But I think you're going to struggle finding anything that supports the notion that he thinks injuries are the ONLY reason we are where we are. But if you can I'm curious to see it”
Again, where did i say that he thinks its the only reason. Let me spell it out for you since you’re struggling: he is putting the focus on the injures, which yes have an impact, to distract away from the multitude of other reasons that he is responsible for. Hence hoodwinking ☺️
posted 2 weeks, 5 days ago
It wasn't snarky at all. That's on you fella. Also I left a long thoughtful response to your thread in a previous comment that you ignored cos it doesn't agree with you.
Also c'mon man you literally wrote this:
ange is focusing on the injuries as if that is the only reason
posted 2 weeks, 5 days ago
Feels like you're trying to hoodwink me at this point tbh. Either that or you've already cracked the Christmas whiskey
posted 2 weeks, 5 days ago
All this would've been cleared up already if you just shared the quotes from Ange that's made you come to this conclusion that he's hoodwinking so we could have an honest conversation about it. That's all I wanted
posted 2 weeks, 5 days ago
comment by Bãleș left boot (U22081)
posted 35 minutes ago
It wasn't snarky at all. That's on you fella. Also I left a long thoughtful response to your thread in a previous comment that you ignored cos it doesn't agree with you.
Also c'mon man you literally wrote this:
ange is focusing on the injuries as if that is the only reason
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So is that what this is about, because i didn’t reply to your previous comment? Apologies, I’ll do it now. But do respond properly.
& yes, i stand by that. He’s acting like it is the only reason because he doesn’t entertain any other reason. I’m being so consistent here, not sure what you aren’t getting!
Re quotes, in numerous interviews he has focused on the injuries and dismissed everything else eg playing out from the back, set pieces, being more pragmatic, plan B, the fact our form is dog for over 12 months etc etc. these are all things that he is using injuries to distract from…IN MY OPINION
posted 2 weeks, 5 days ago
No that's not what it's about. Jeez man. I was responding to you suggesting I'm only making snarky one liner comments. For starters, I put thought into an actual response. For second I just asked a straightforward question that obviously upset you.
Onto the point. I appreciate that's your opinion, but Ange being asked about injuries and conceding that they might be having an impact on our performances does not equal him excusing everything you've mentioned there. IMO that's mental you'd think that someone so successful, getting paid millions, would actually think like that. And it's not even borne out in what he's said. You're just being a caant. IMO.
posted 2 weeks, 5 days ago
It's a bit like Liverpool getting lucky but also being good, both can be true but some people seem to think it's one or the other and there's no way both can be true.
posted 2 weeks, 5 days ago
comment by Bãleș left boot (U22081)
posted 14 hours, 16 minutes ago
It's a bit of both tbf. I don't think there's a manager alive that gets us a win in that game with Dragusin and Gray as our centre backs with Forster in goal. That said, there's definitely an argument there's a few managers out there that would have us on a higher points total right now. Even just a couple of losses turned into wins and we're 5th place.
Given the state of the squad, both in terms of the injuries right now but the overall level even with everyone fit, I don't think it's fair to say Ange is awful and all the other sh!t being thrown at him. It's fine margins init. We've seen Mourinho and Conte with substandard squads (Dier and Sanchez CBs, Hojbjerg and Winks midfield) suffer similar or worse results trying not to lose. At the end of the day there's only so much a manager can do.
Sure everyone can have their opinion about how they want us to play, who the manager should pick, or whatever. But if we're really honest even a prime Alex Ferguson ain't dragging this lot to the top. So is it bad enough, really, that it's worth tearing it all up again and facing another season or two waiting for a project to develop that might never work only to lose patience with it after a season and a bit and start again?
And I think right now it's very hard to answer because the squad is thin, lacking real quality in key areas, and where we do have real quality they're injured.. so yeah you can make a case for sacking him anyway but you could certainly say he's been a bit hard done by. Even if you hate the bloke.
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Forgot to reply!
I agree that Ange hasn’t been backed sufficiently and that is hampering. No doubts about that. I also think that other managers would be doing better than 11th place. Ideally ange turns it around, because yes a new manager is something most of us don’t want to go through AGAIN.
But my main issue with ange is him being too stubborn. Because to me it just shows that long term success is extremely unlikely with a manager who not only cannot adapt (or chooses not to), but will not be backed sufficiently to the point where his style will work.
This ain’t Celtic where you got the most money and best players in the league. The guy must be smoking crack, to think he can just keep playing the same way and it will lead to success for us. It won’t happen in my opinion and the last 12-13 months has shown us this. Thats a big sample size
posted 2 weeks, 5 days ago
comment by Bãleș left boot (U22081)
posted 39 minutes ago
No that's not what it's about. Jeez man. I was responding to you suggesting I'm only making snarky one liner comments. For starters, I put thought into an actual response. For second I just asked a straightforward question that obviously upset you.
Onto the point. I appreciate that's your opinion, but Ange being asked about injuries and conceding that they might be having an impact on our performances does not equal him excusing everything you've mentioned there. IMO that's mental you'd think that someone so successful, getting paid millions, would actually think like that. And it's not even borne out in what he's said. You're just being a caant. IMO.
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Wtf are you on about. You really are still struggling to understand even after all these messages. Fack me you’re slow.
I. Did. Not. Say. Ange. Thinks. Injuries. Are. The. Only. Reason.
I said he is using injuries to hoodwink fans and simpletons and it’s clearly working on the likes of you.
posted 2 weeks, 5 days ago
comment by Striketeam7 - staying humble (U18109)
posted 20 hours, 30 minutes ago
comment by Chronic (U3423)
posted 10 minutes ago
it does seem absurd that a top level, former international manager has absolutely no interest in any kind of balance or game state adjustment.
the philosophy is fast attacking football sure, but within that you then have adaptations for game state. e.g. no need to have both full backs and the entire midfield flooding forward every single time regardless of quality of possession we have
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He ain’t top level
Never was. Think of it this way, if Spurs sacked him tomorrow, where do you reckon his next job would be? No chance of an another Prem job, no chance of La Liga or Serie A. I would bet against the Budesliga. Maybe the Eredivisie with a second rate side but not PSV, Ajax or Feyenoord
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He’s operating at the top level now, which is what I was getting at
posted 2 weeks, 5 days ago
comment by BISS Bash BOSSED (U8366)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by Bãleș left boot (U22081)
posted 39 minutes ago
No that's not what it's about. Jeez man. I was responding to you suggesting I'm only making snarky one liner comments. For starters, I put thought into an actual response. For second I just asked a straightforward question that obviously upset you.
Onto the point. I appreciate that's your opinion, but Ange being asked about injuries and conceding that they might be having an impact on our performances does not equal him excusing everything you've mentioned there. IMO that's mental you'd think that someone so successful, getting paid millions, would actually think like that. And it's not even borne out in what he's said. You're just being a caant. IMO.
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Wtf are you on about. You really are still struggling to understand even after all these messages. Fack me you’re slow.
I. Did. Not. Say. Ange. Thinks. Injuries. Are. The. Only. Reason.
I said he is using injuries to hoodwink fans and simpletons and it’s clearly working on the likes of you.
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You literally said that
posted 2 weeks, 5 days ago
comment by BISS Bash BOSSED (U8366)
posted 6 hours, 17 minutes ago
comment by sandy, golden boot winner fa cup 1901 (U20567)
posted 6 hours, 5 minutes ago
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 1 hour, 33 minutes ago
Liverpool were a class apart and there is no denying that.
But anyone who thinks that some key injuries and an inability to rest and rotate in a period in the season when we are 2 games a week, every week, for weeks on end, is.gping further than hoodwinking themselves, it's just plain stupidity.
Liverpool has an easy midweek tie and we're able to rest key players and you could see it in today's game. Their energy was at another level and we barely laid a glove on them in terms of our press. When we did we had some joy and forced opportunities.
I am notnsaying that all is great at Spurs, Slot had a better game plan to Ange but also they executed it better. Both teams went long at times and ours was aimless and theirs far more polished. For them it's a legacy of Klopp, for us it's an option we need to work on far more. When they hit it long, they had runners. For us it seemed almost unplanned, more reactionary.
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The stupidity of some of our fans is on another level. For practically the whole of December Spurs have more or less had to put the same team on the pitch for every single game, in what is the busiest time of the year. Liverpool rested nearly all their first XI midweek, Spurs had to play them all, hence unchanged against yesterday, because they are down to the barebones.
But hey some of our supporters think injuries do not play a part in performances.
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The irony if sandy mentioning stupidity. U cry whenever somewhere insults you, you little snowflake.
You are both ignoring the point one again, well done. Seems to be common with the ange supporters.
No1 is saying the injuries dont make a difference. The point I’m making is ange is focusing on the injuries as if that is the only reason why we are where we are. And discounting his poor tactics across the whole season that has seen us open at the back.
Clearly though, you guys are hoodwinked and believe when the players are back everything will be fine. Cheers
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