posted 2 weeks, 4 days ago
Stuff it, I'll go first before LIW does his...
01. Illan Meslier - YES/#2 BACK UP ONLY
02. Karl Darlow - NO
03. Alex Cairns - NO
04. Jayden Bogle - YES
05. Junior Firpo - NO
06. Sam Byram - NO
07. Isaac Schmidt - MAYBE?
08. Rasmus Kristensen (out on loan) - NO
09. Pascal Struijk - YES
10. Joe Rodon - YES
11. Maximilian Wöber - YES
12. James Debayo - MAYBE?
13. Ethan Ampadu - YES
14. Joe Rothwell (in on loan) - YES
15. Ao Tanaka - YES
16. Ilia Gruev - YES
17. Charlie Crew - MAYBE?
18. Sam Chambers - MAYBE?
19. Sam Greenwood (out on loan) - NO
20. Daniel James - YES
21. Manor Solomon (in on loan) - YES
22. Wilfried Gnonto - YES
23. Largie Ramazani - MAYBE?
24. Jack Harrison (out on loan) N/A
25. Brenden Aaronson - YES
26. Joël Piroe - YES
27. Mateo Joseph - MAYBE?
28. Patrick Bamford - NO
29. Joe Gelhardt - NO
30. Sonny Perkins (out on loan) - NO
Of 30 players listed I see 14 as Prem level.
And 6 as maybe. 4 of those are kids who
we don't have enough evidence of yet.
posted 2 weeks, 4 days ago
What a great idea…5 stars from me!
Now let me think!
posted 2 weeks, 4 days ago
I have rated my answers on players I believe could contribute significantly to keeping us in the PL, not just make up the numbers in a losing season, where they might have the odd good game..
Where there is not enough evidence either way, I’ve gone for a NO answer, with the exception of Schmidt, who I just have a feeling about.
Looks like we need a couple of Goalkeepers and a couple of strikers right off the bat..!!
01. Illan Meslier - NO
02. Karl Darlow - NO
03. Alex Cairns - NO
04. Jayden Bogle - YES
05. Junior Firpo - NO
06. Sam Byram - YES
07. Isaac Schmidt - YES
08. Rasmus Kristensen (out on loan) - NO
09. Pascal Struijk - YES
10. Joe Rodon - YES
11. Maximilian Wöber - YES
12. James Debayo - NO
13. Ethan Ampadu - YES
14. Joe Rothwell (in on loan) - YES
15. Ao Tanaka - YES
16. Ilia Gruev - NO
17. Charlie Crew - NO
18. Sam Chambers - NO
19. Sam Greenwood (out on loan) - NO
20. Daniel James - YES
21. Manor Solomon (in on loan) - YES
22. Wilfried Gnonto - YES
23. Largie Ramazani - YES
24. Jack Harrison (out on loan) N/A
25. Brenden Aaronson - YES
26. Joël Piroe - NO
27. Mateo Joseph - NO
28. Patrick Bamford - NO
29. Joe Gelhardt - NO
30. Sonny Perkins (out on loan) - NO
posted 2 weeks, 4 days ago
Blood, nice one.
posted 2 weeks, 4 days ago
01 Meslier. Just a YES, but not confident
02 Darlow NO
03 Cairns NO
04 Bogle a definite YES…this guy can step up!
05 Firpo ?? Just YES
06 Byram NO
07 Schmidt Don’t know enough about him…so NO
08 Kristensen NO
09 Strijk YES
10 Rodon….hmm not sure but NO
11 Wober NO
12 Debayo NO
13. Ampadu Just. YES
14. Rothwell YES most definitely
15 Tanaka YES
16 Gruev. Just, YES…..think he can step up
17. Crew. NO….tbh don’t know enough about him
18. Chambers NO Ditto
19. Greenwood NO
20. James. YES. but NO…maybe just YES
21. Soloman NO
22. Gnonto. YES but NO…maybe just YES
23. Ramazani NO
25 Aaronson. NO….shooting poor for premier
26. Piroe NO
27. Joseph. ?? Maybe/possibly. Just YES
28. Bamford. NO…is he still at the club?!
29. Gelhardt NO
30. Perkins NO
10. Yes…but some with not a lot of confidence
Good game….good game….expect now I will be called
“strange and bizarre “
posted 2 weeks, 4 days ago
Meslier backup
Bogle
Firpo
Struijk
Rodon
Wober
Ampadu
Tanaka
James
Gnonto
Ramazani
Slim pickings but we don't have to replace everyone in the first window.
posted 2 weeks, 4 days ago
Would try to keep Solomon and Rothwell.
posted 2 weeks, 4 days ago
I’ll just do ones I don’t want to see in any form in PL aside from obvious ones who are out on loan or who never play e.g. Geldhardt.
Meslier - he needs a fresh start for his own good. We need a keeper who can keep us in games and win us points, he’s not done that enough last 4 seasons.
Firpo - he’s been good at this level for us but his race is run. Recent bans did it for me, just doesn’t display enough composure.
Bamford - I’ve defended him on here, lot of hyperbole about him but feels like a lose lose for everyone if he’s still here next year
Positions to target if we are up:
Left back as always
Keeper
Centreback - we have 3 good ones but a proper stand out player needed for PL
Striker - Piroe can contribute definitely but we would need better as a starter
posted 2 weeks, 4 days ago
So far, it looks like those that have posted are close
to agreement on the squad. Interesting.
posted 2 weeks, 4 days ago
I suppose we should start looking at picking at the bones of the teams coming down for starters? Anyone on Man U squad you would take? Nah thought not 😂.
I was at the Playoff final in May, and my feeling after the game wasn’t as bad as I thought a loss would bring. That I think is because I look at the PL table now and know that would be us at the bottom in all likelihood. So to your point about the article Batty…yes we need a massive overhaul of the squad I feel….just don’t want to think about it too much and enjoy the ride to hopefully getting autos.🤞
posted 2 weeks, 4 days ago
yes we need a massive overhaul of the squad I feel….just don’t want to think about it too much and enjoy the ride to hopefully getting autos.🤞
^^^
Understood. And agree.
I think the majority see what's coming.
The price of success is stress.
Just a bit of fun on NYE.
posted 2 weeks, 4 days ago
So far, by responses, 6-12 new recruits needed.
I do think 2 to 3 seasons from now, promoted clubs
might only retain 5/6 of their Championship squad.
Or they'll be right back down. Which is terrifying for
any club with ambitions to get to the Prem.
posted 2 weeks, 4 days ago
Our 3 top performers from last season are bit part players now at their respective clubs. Cree's a sub. Rutter's in the rotation as a starter. Not a lock.
Archie's an emergency CB in a decimated Spurs.
All 3 were absolute stars in the Championship.
posted 2 weeks, 4 days ago
I think the worry for me is the defensive aspect of our squad. Next season, if we are in the PL, we are not going to have as much possession and we will be defending a lot more. Our fullbacks scare me defensively…Rodon is solid but has mistakes in him and Struijk was torn to bits confidence wise last time we were there.
posted 2 weeks, 4 days ago
Surprised everyone has said Bogle. I think he'll be found out big time in the PL. Great going forward but not a great defender.
posted 2 weeks, 4 days ago
Our 4 rotatng wingers are a luxury but can we keep that in place? Piroe is a great finisher but I feel we need an upgrade on him to supplement. Midfield wise, Tanaka and Ampadu will be good…think we need another solid midfielder. Definitely need new fullbacks and maybe a CB. So 4/5 Prem quality signings I’d say minimum.
posted 2 weeks, 4 days ago
Bogle is the one I thought could be a great success, thought about his direct running, his determination to attack, wants to shoot at every opportunity,
His defensive abilities can be improved no doubt…but a big YES from me, lots of potential.
posted 2 weeks, 4 days ago
It's interesting to see how others see the squad.
posted 2 weeks, 4 days ago
And after telling you I don’t want to think about it too much…I’m now thinking about it too much 😂😂
posted 2 weeks, 4 days ago
comment by Batty (U4664)
posted 56 minutes ago
Our 3 top performers from last season are bit part players now at their respective clubs. Cree's a sub. Rutter's in the rotation as a starter. Not a lock.
Archie's an emergency CB in a decimated Spurs.
All 3 were absolute stars in the Championship.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I think Archie has performed the best of the three. With experience and playing in his proper position I think he has the highest ceiling. Was our biggest loss imo.
posted 2 weeks, 4 days ago
This thread is an excellent illustration of how football has been allowed to go down the pan. The gap between the Premiership & the Championship is now ridiculous.
But how funny would it be if schum went down? 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
posted 2 weeks, 4 days ago
Man U threads are in meltdown on ja.
Some of them are starting to think it might
be a possibility. It won't. But the stress it's
causing is hilarious. They'll buy their way
out of this situation.
posted 2 weeks, 4 days ago
comment by White as Snow (U22893)
posted 43 minutes ago
This thread is an excellent illustration of how football has been allowed to go down the pan. The gap between the Premiership & the Championship is now ridiculous.
^^^
I wasn't really paying attention to the gap until
Jonty brought it to an OP years ago. He's looking
like football Nostradamus right now.
Sad reality that 'small' clubs who already booked
their place a few seasons ago will have a much
stronger chance now of staying up.
I thought the Notts Forest owner was nuts with his
massive squad and investment. Right up to them
sitting in second place in the Prem the other day.
Survival in the Prem requires bold intent, huge
monetary investment, excellent recruitment, and
the right manager/coach. High stakes league.
Not for the passive or the sentimental.
posted 2 weeks, 4 days ago
Keepers
NEW KEEPER
Meslier
Fullbacks
NEW LEFT BACK
Jayden Bogle
Sam Byram
Isaac Schmidt
Centre backs
NEW CENTRE BACK
Pascal Struijk
Joe Rodon
Maximilian Wöber
midfielders
Ethan Ampadu
Ao Tanaka
Gruev
Wingers
Daniel James
Wilfried Gnonto
Largie Ramazani
Jack Harrison
CAM
Brenden Aaronson
Striker
NEW STRIKER
Joël Piroe
Mateo Joseph
posted 2 weeks, 4 days ago
On the sentimentality side, it'd be interesting to see
how many clubs have paid the price for keeping or
bringing back players once they did go up.
Those clubs that said "we're retaining player X
from our Championship promotion team to reward
their effort in getting us up." Or the clubs who
bring back former players who have played in
the Prem for other clubs, but started at the
promoted club. I guess for us that would be a Milner.
How often has that back fired? Or been a complete
waste of resources?
Ruthlessness is the only way to stay in the Prem.
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posted 2 weeks, 4 days ago
Stuff it, I'll go first before LIW does his...
01. Illan Meslier - YES/#2 BACK UP ONLY
02. Karl Darlow - NO
03. Alex Cairns - NO
04. Jayden Bogle - YES
05. Junior Firpo - NO
06. Sam Byram - NO
07. Isaac Schmidt - MAYBE?
08. Rasmus Kristensen (out on loan) - NO
09. Pascal Struijk - YES
10. Joe Rodon - YES
11. Maximilian Wöber - YES
12. James Debayo - MAYBE?
13. Ethan Ampadu - YES
14. Joe Rothwell (in on loan) - YES
15. Ao Tanaka - YES
16. Ilia Gruev - YES
17. Charlie Crew - MAYBE?
18. Sam Chambers - MAYBE?
19. Sam Greenwood (out on loan) - NO
20. Daniel James - YES
21. Manor Solomon (in on loan) - YES
22. Wilfried Gnonto - YES
23. Largie Ramazani - MAYBE?
24. Jack Harrison (out on loan) N/A
25. Brenden Aaronson - YES
26. Joël Piroe - YES
27. Mateo Joseph - MAYBE?
28. Patrick Bamford - NO
29. Joe Gelhardt - NO
30. Sonny Perkins (out on loan) - NO
Of 30 players listed I see 14 as Prem level.
And 6 as maybe. 4 of those are kids who
we don't have enough evidence of yet.
posted 2 weeks, 4 days ago
What a great idea…5 stars from me!
Now let me think!
posted 2 weeks, 4 days ago
I have rated my answers on players I believe could contribute significantly to keeping us in the PL, not just make up the numbers in a losing season, where they might have the odd good game..
Where there is not enough evidence either way, I’ve gone for a NO answer, with the exception of Schmidt, who I just have a feeling about.
Looks like we need a couple of Goalkeepers and a couple of strikers right off the bat..!!
01. Illan Meslier - NO
02. Karl Darlow - NO
03. Alex Cairns - NO
04. Jayden Bogle - YES
05. Junior Firpo - NO
06. Sam Byram - YES
07. Isaac Schmidt - YES
08. Rasmus Kristensen (out on loan) - NO
09. Pascal Struijk - YES
10. Joe Rodon - YES
11. Maximilian Wöber - YES
12. James Debayo - NO
13. Ethan Ampadu - YES
14. Joe Rothwell (in on loan) - YES
15. Ao Tanaka - YES
16. Ilia Gruev - NO
17. Charlie Crew - NO
18. Sam Chambers - NO
19. Sam Greenwood (out on loan) - NO
20. Daniel James - YES
21. Manor Solomon (in on loan) - YES
22. Wilfried Gnonto - YES
23. Largie Ramazani - YES
24. Jack Harrison (out on loan) N/A
25. Brenden Aaronson - YES
26. Joël Piroe - NO
27. Mateo Joseph - NO
28. Patrick Bamford - NO
29. Joe Gelhardt - NO
30. Sonny Perkins (out on loan) - NO
posted 2 weeks, 4 days ago
Blood, nice one.
posted 2 weeks, 4 days ago
01 Meslier. Just a YES, but not confident
02 Darlow NO
03 Cairns NO
04 Bogle a definite YES…this guy can step up!
05 Firpo ?? Just YES
06 Byram NO
07 Schmidt Don’t know enough about him…so NO
08 Kristensen NO
09 Strijk YES
10 Rodon….hmm not sure but NO
11 Wober NO
12 Debayo NO
13. Ampadu Just. YES
14. Rothwell YES most definitely
15 Tanaka YES
16 Gruev. Just, YES…..think he can step up
17. Crew. NO….tbh don’t know enough about him
18. Chambers NO Ditto
19. Greenwood NO
20. James. YES. but NO…maybe just YES
21. Soloman NO
22. Gnonto. YES but NO…maybe just YES
23. Ramazani NO
25 Aaronson. NO….shooting poor for premier
26. Piroe NO
27. Joseph. ?? Maybe/possibly. Just YES
28. Bamford. NO…is he still at the club?!
29. Gelhardt NO
30. Perkins NO
10. Yes…but some with not a lot of confidence
Good game….good game….expect now I will be called
“strange and bizarre “
posted 2 weeks, 4 days ago
Meslier backup
Bogle
Firpo
Struijk
Rodon
Wober
Ampadu
Tanaka
James
Gnonto
Ramazani
Slim pickings but we don't have to replace everyone in the first window.
posted 2 weeks, 4 days ago
Would try to keep Solomon and Rothwell.
posted 2 weeks, 4 days ago
I’ll just do ones I don’t want to see in any form in PL aside from obvious ones who are out on loan or who never play e.g. Geldhardt.
Meslier - he needs a fresh start for his own good. We need a keeper who can keep us in games and win us points, he’s not done that enough last 4 seasons.
Firpo - he’s been good at this level for us but his race is run. Recent bans did it for me, just doesn’t display enough composure.
Bamford - I’ve defended him on here, lot of hyperbole about him but feels like a lose lose for everyone if he’s still here next year
Positions to target if we are up:
Left back as always
Keeper
Centreback - we have 3 good ones but a proper stand out player needed for PL
Striker - Piroe can contribute definitely but we would need better as a starter
posted 2 weeks, 4 days ago
So far, it looks like those that have posted are close
to agreement on the squad. Interesting.
posted 2 weeks, 4 days ago
I suppose we should start looking at picking at the bones of the teams coming down for starters? Anyone on Man U squad you would take? Nah thought not 😂.
I was at the Playoff final in May, and my feeling after the game wasn’t as bad as I thought a loss would bring. That I think is because I look at the PL table now and know that would be us at the bottom in all likelihood. So to your point about the article Batty…yes we need a massive overhaul of the squad I feel….just don’t want to think about it too much and enjoy the ride to hopefully getting autos.🤞
posted 2 weeks, 4 days ago
yes we need a massive overhaul of the squad I feel….just don’t want to think about it too much and enjoy the ride to hopefully getting autos.🤞
^^^
Understood. And agree.
I think the majority see what's coming.
The price of success is stress.
Just a bit of fun on NYE.
posted 2 weeks, 4 days ago
So far, by responses, 6-12 new recruits needed.
I do think 2 to 3 seasons from now, promoted clubs
might only retain 5/6 of their Championship squad.
Or they'll be right back down. Which is terrifying for
any club with ambitions to get to the Prem.
posted 2 weeks, 4 days ago
Our 3 top performers from last season are bit part players now at their respective clubs. Cree's a sub. Rutter's in the rotation as a starter. Not a lock.
Archie's an emergency CB in a decimated Spurs.
All 3 were absolute stars in the Championship.
posted 2 weeks, 4 days ago
I think the worry for me is the defensive aspect of our squad. Next season, if we are in the PL, we are not going to have as much possession and we will be defending a lot more. Our fullbacks scare me defensively…Rodon is solid but has mistakes in him and Struijk was torn to bits confidence wise last time we were there.
posted 2 weeks, 4 days ago
Surprised everyone has said Bogle. I think he'll be found out big time in the PL. Great going forward but not a great defender.
posted 2 weeks, 4 days ago
Our 4 rotatng wingers are a luxury but can we keep that in place? Piroe is a great finisher but I feel we need an upgrade on him to supplement. Midfield wise, Tanaka and Ampadu will be good…think we need another solid midfielder. Definitely need new fullbacks and maybe a CB. So 4/5 Prem quality signings I’d say minimum.
posted 2 weeks, 4 days ago
Bogle is the one I thought could be a great success, thought about his direct running, his determination to attack, wants to shoot at every opportunity,
His defensive abilities can be improved no doubt…but a big YES from me, lots of potential.
posted 2 weeks, 4 days ago
It's interesting to see how others see the squad.
posted 2 weeks, 4 days ago
And after telling you I don’t want to think about it too much…I’m now thinking about it too much 😂😂
posted 2 weeks, 4 days ago
comment by Batty (U4664)
posted 56 minutes ago
Our 3 top performers from last season are bit part players now at their respective clubs. Cree's a sub. Rutter's in the rotation as a starter. Not a lock.
Archie's an emergency CB in a decimated Spurs.
All 3 were absolute stars in the Championship.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I think Archie has performed the best of the three. With experience and playing in his proper position I think he has the highest ceiling. Was our biggest loss imo.
posted 2 weeks, 4 days ago
This thread is an excellent illustration of how football has been allowed to go down the pan. The gap between the Premiership & the Championship is now ridiculous.
But how funny would it be if schum went down? 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
posted 2 weeks, 4 days ago
Man U threads are in meltdown on ja.
Some of them are starting to think it might
be a possibility. It won't. But the stress it's
causing is hilarious. They'll buy their way
out of this situation.
posted 2 weeks, 4 days ago
comment by White as Snow (U22893)
posted 43 minutes ago
This thread is an excellent illustration of how football has been allowed to go down the pan. The gap between the Premiership & the Championship is now ridiculous.
^^^
I wasn't really paying attention to the gap until
Jonty brought it to an OP years ago. He's looking
like football Nostradamus right now.
Sad reality that 'small' clubs who already booked
their place a few seasons ago will have a much
stronger chance now of staying up.
I thought the Notts Forest owner was nuts with his
massive squad and investment. Right up to them
sitting in second place in the Prem the other day.
Survival in the Prem requires bold intent, huge
monetary investment, excellent recruitment, and
the right manager/coach. High stakes league.
Not for the passive or the sentimental.
posted 2 weeks, 4 days ago
Keepers
NEW KEEPER
Meslier
Fullbacks
NEW LEFT BACK
Jayden Bogle
Sam Byram
Isaac Schmidt
Centre backs
NEW CENTRE BACK
Pascal Struijk
Joe Rodon
Maximilian Wöber
midfielders
Ethan Ampadu
Ao Tanaka
Gruev
Wingers
Daniel James
Wilfried Gnonto
Largie Ramazani
Jack Harrison
CAM
Brenden Aaronson
Striker
NEW STRIKER
Joël Piroe
Mateo Joseph
posted 2 weeks, 4 days ago
On the sentimentality side, it'd be interesting to see
how many clubs have paid the price for keeping or
bringing back players once they did go up.
Those clubs that said "we're retaining player X
from our Championship promotion team to reward
their effort in getting us up." Or the clubs who
bring back former players who have played in
the Prem for other clubs, but started at the
promoted club. I guess for us that would be a Milner.
How often has that back fired? Or been a complete
waste of resources?
Ruthlessness is the only way to stay in the Prem.
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